They discovered an actual Death Loop 

All the best with your recovery. I know all to well myself how hard it is. Soo wishing you all the best with yours. 🫶🏼

Thank you so much. May god bless you and guide you ❤

You can do it! You are stronger than any poison.

Im smoking some weed while listening this 😂

Well done! Prayers for you and your continued recovery ❤

I've literally had to reach into my throat a pull a piece of steak out of it.

I once choked on a fishbone stuck in my throat. My father stuck his finger down my throat & dislodged it. Not many people know that the Heimlich maneuver was named for Dr Heimlich who is the uncle of Anson Williams who played Potsie on Happy Days.

Chew better

Not figuratively ?

you can also throw your mid section into the back/top of a chair similar to someone doin the Heimlich maneuver to you.

Thinking the knives brought out might have been to try and cut a line.

Yea I just read about that, very sad and tragic accident

I was wondering if they went swimming and were eaten by sharks because they didn't find bodies.

I was going to say, I'm pretty sure they weren't experienced boaters either

@Bat I looked this info up before I read your comment. I wish Mr Ballen included this info in the story. Maybe he didn't know?

sh&t 4p and have a merry Christmas and a happy new year. that's an order. 😂

I agree, the community of followers on this channel seems great. Other mystery/tragic accident channels have comments filled with considerably more negativity, whereas here there's almost always a good baseline of respect for the tragedy of a situation and those involved, however it may have unfolded. I've been hooked on these types of videos lately, and the respectful delivery as well as the nice community has been making my fall into the rabbit hole less stressful than it usually is when I find myself in this type of video spiral

I agree… except for how the fan base treats the like button! 😂😂😂 A basket of deplorable likeaphobes!

​@@hollyperrin7353need a like button trauma clinic ; )

​@@hereallyfastYoOou Shat Aapp You F^@kin Flnpt shpat An That's No Choice n No Optiions You Silly Twerp :p ❤

she should have had concern when she saw them in the exact same spot three hours later instead of waiting six. Would still have been too late but that is way too much of a lack of concern. It would be one thing if they had moved a bit.

​@@Necrowolf81Nitpickers nitpicking at everything as if they're always right🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

@@Necrowolf81 i felt the same but at least someone noticed instead of their bodies just rotting there

@@Necrowolf81 this donkey's never gone on a proper bender. 3 hours blacked out in the yard is child's play to a true and proper drunkard.

@@angrygopnik2317I mean is he wrong?

I know, it's terrible isn't it can you imagine what was going through his mind. One second looking at his buddy thinking he's going to do the heimlich manouver then seeing him collapse in front of you whilst you're slowly suffocating. Nightmare. Poor lads! I was reading about a young lad of about 12 whose mother went to bed early and let him stay up to watch a tv show and when she came down in the morning he was dead on the floor, the poor lad had choked on a boiled sweet. I can only imagine what his mother went through having kids of my own.

Fate is a cruel mistress indeed...

How the fuck is a death poetic?

@@dewaldsteyn1306 It’s a very old term. Have you not heard of it? Or maybe you’re being rhetorical bc you don’t like it, in which case I’ll explain that just because a death is described as poetic doesn’t mean the tragedy of it is ignored. It’s like describing a death as brave if they were trying to help another person in the face of danger, or calling a death ironic if the circumstances fit the term. Stop trying to be so easily offended.

lol heartbreaking

at least they were together and its not a joke. i do mean that. atleast the last person in there final moments was each other. traumatic or not tis what id want if my death was gonna be traumatic like that.

@@tezneckaaldunous9795honestly, that was my takeaway too. it’s an absolutely tragic circumstance for those left behind, but thank god neither of them had to carry the trauma of survivors guilt and watching your best friend die

Same I almost cried honestly 😢❤

I hope you recover soon! Im sure you've had a rough journey, sending my love and prayers

Big hugs. Speedy recovery. The Big C can be scary but medical science has thankfully improved since Chris had cancer in the early 2000's. Stay positive and if MrBallen gets you through treatment and bad days then watch. MrBallen is great. Another one is True Crime Recaps however they don't do the spooky, cooky and bleeding What the .. cases like Mr Ballen God's speed on recovery. Stay positive 😊

Look to Jesus, He is our only hope

🙏🙏💪🤍🤍🤍🤍🙏

I love you stranger. Stay positive and keep God close. You are a warrior.

"him".

@@Dharzjinion here we are imagining begin in the scenario, not the actual event so the gender of the mentioned friend changes depending on who you picture begin the friend in the scenario

⁠@@Dharzjinionliterally unnecessary

@@Dharzjinion get a friend

@@Dharzjinion Them is gender neutral terms, even before wokeism

That’s why i can’t get in to it. I sub and like him though because he’s a vet…

Wouldn't it be nice if we could comment on the advertisements like we do on the videos. What do people say when they find out that they can get free gold bars and stacks of silver coins. Did you know that you can sign up to receive $3,278.59 every month... but you need to act now before the government program expires!

@@alexmartin3143 you can skip his crazy ad sections.

@jess-lynne Same, it’s one of my favorite parts of the videos

​@@alexmartin3143you can just fast Forward through them, that's what I do and it doesn't take you out of the story at all.

So do I. I went thru it and had a hard time when he dropped down to just one show. I swear, I went thru some serious MrBallen Withdrawals. They were borderline vicious. It tops my list of bad shit I've endured in this lifetime. Not sure if anything will ever beat what I went through when that happened. They went on for months. I don't want to ever live through anything like that again. I'm not sure I would survive it a second time around! It was seriously that bad!!! Lol!!!

​@@SuckingUpMyLifeForceEnergyhe's rich now. He doesn't need to upload alot anymore. It wasn't about making content for fans it was about making money...

​​@@wakenow1I think when the channel first started there was just a huge pool of stories to pull from which has diminished as time has gone on. He has also diversified his channels and has a weekly upload for 3-4 channels & podcasts he manages now. Edit: This channel, MrBallen Medical Mysteries, MrBallen Bedtime Stories & Run, Fool!

@@wakenow1 That s exactly how I felt about it when he made the change. It was like, what about all the RU-vid fans that stuck by you and helped you grow your channel into what it is today? Without all of us, he wouldn't have had the choice to leave us high and dry like he did. I am serious... I was upset over the change for months. Many many months. All his stories every week were part of the staple of RU-vid for me and alot of my friends. They would come over just to sit around and watch MrBallen. Pardon my language but at my house, we had serious cases of Blue Ballens from the now lack of satisfaction there is on his channel. It was a real bad case for me. And I'm a woman. Can you just imagine what I went thru? LOL!!!

For us Dutchies this is even considered cheap. Usually merch clothing is between 35 and 80 euros🫣

for some reason, i imagine a him actually dying in the car then the body just somehow keeps the car running for months 😅

@@Lawbringer. Holy shit this is exactly the idea I had in my head right after John described the guy's body being a skeleton and before revealing the authorities' conclusion.

He had to keep looping until he was found

This kind of encounter is common in my country

Yeah, it’s odd how the sails were tattered if there was no storm or anything. The only thing that comes to my mind personally is being attacked

The Kraken got them

@@ErikHansen911😂

The strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format happened to them. 👀

I was thinking the same thing. Like it was sad but somehow sweet that neither of them had to mourn the other

Their friendship is so sweet 😢

Idk if id call choking to death on beef rib a completely natural death though lol. It is sad but i can imagine it would be a horrible choking to death

Lol

You're crazy if you thought there was any beauty there. It's not like they were the same age. That one guy had waaaaay more life to live. 🙄

Salute

who paid you to write the comment?

​@@Mitch_100 dd e d de ed dd e ded d

He's actually related to me!

Very strange! I wonder if like the story it was a coincidence or if it was something supernatural?

Oooo, wow yeah, that's erie.

The cat probably just transformed himself so you would think he had died months ago. When in reality, he was still alive. Cats can do that

@@self-righteousideologue9398 can they make gold eggs too?

Was not a cat

😂😅😂

😂

Hey those flannels can get pretty hot 😂

I thought he had boxers or pj's pants on. At least, that's what I would do. Lol

Anyone who’s never seen him stand up but he usually does.

Same here! I would have been 14 at the time and had never heard of this. Its surreal hearing it from an American on RU-vid 😆

To me, it sounds like somebody was driving around with that dude decomposing in the car. They survived the crash and escaped before the police got there.

@@robertchasteen9909Damn! That’s a good one!

​@@robertchasteen9909he died in a time loop

​@robertchasteen9909 A good theory, but he would have to have no sense of smell. You can not believe how bad a decomposing human body perfumes the area it is in. And that driver could not go in anywhere because he would carry its aroma. Unless he mummified the body first. That might keep the smell down enough...maybe.

He's part of a RU-vid network. He just reads the script, there's an editor, and story crew. They make over a million dollars a month and it doesn't just go to one person. There is a production team.

​@@wakenow1its not just the script. The body language is a factor as well

Speed is my concern, we all have been there in youth, to fast, unknown road, slick pavement....at least they were together in the end....Cheers!

It’s been all over the news in the United States… Such a sad tragedy. My condolences to the family, friends, loved ones and the community. Much love and light.

Drunk also

​@@Sncedayoneand where did you see that

what is even more bizarre is that youngsters die everyday in car crashes, even go missing but this story made headline news and was also mentioned in parliament !! what made this stand out above all others? again many car crashes every year involving a car of youngsters but they never get a mention.

Me too! Like how can this man be so unserious at the snap of a finger 😂

@@JB-bm1toshit pay me a million a month I’ll do whatever you want 😂

His ads are the main reason I watch. lol

He tends to waffle so much I feel like I have schizophrenia, I feel relieved when the ads happen.

​@@bashkillszombies Liar 😂

I've heard that story a couple times. It is astounding.

Oof gloomy here too! Just started hailing. Perfect timing indeed.

Exactlyyy

Listening to MrBallen while folding laundry is the only way I get through putting laundry away. Also a gloomy Sunday here.

Mbn I’m over here listening while working at Amazon 😂

@@JesusGonzalez-bi4rfdammm I could never work on a Sunday lol

Sameeee I clicked as soon as I got the notification

ppl must be hovering on ballen 1 minute and there is altready 40 comments!

In story format?

Yayyyy... God bless yall from Corpus Chrisit Texas ❤️ ✌️

Me toooo!,

Welcome to the world of bingeing MrBallen stories. It happens to all that have the good fortune of running across their first story by him. After hearing that first one, there is absolutely nothing else you can do but take up listening to every single story he has ever told. Anyone who doesn't have that urge must be an alien to the Human Race. Bingeing MrBallen seems to be a natural instinct for most of us. Can't understand the mind of anyone who doesn't binge. It's completely unnatural! Lol!!!

Does anybody know why he terrorizes the like and follow buttons lol

Mr ballen actually had cover that story you talked about btw

@MrBallen did a video about the first man you described. Isn't it crazy how things like that can happen? It honestly scares the hell out of me sometimes when I think about certain aspects of things like that.. It's just mind boggling.

​@@OrbitalOrbs can you give me the title? Thanks!

@@astrawberrycookie I forgot what it call since it I watched it 2 years ago, maybe try searching through the 3 strange stroies

But then you would expect to see signs of a struggle on-board. That's the problem with any theory involving an attack or on board injury. The only possibility is all 3 went over board since nothing on board is disturbed

Probably...1 fell off and they had to rescue..but they were old so had barely stamina and the other driving was old and cant see far...so he kept drving far away and maybe also fell overboard

I think it's pretty clear it was pirates

Even though this case has "pirates" written all over it, I agree with you that the sea is a mysterious place. That's why sailors don't pray on God on Jesus there. It's like they have no power over the sea.

@@valentinkambushev4968If pirates killed them, is there a reason they wouldn't also take the ship? I'd assume they would to sell it or at least take parts but don't know anything about pirates.

It was aliens

Thank you!

Yeah. It's a residual occurrence. Non intelligent. In other words, you can't usually interact with it or it with you but can bleed through to our plane if energies sync just right.

Thank you, never heard of it before

the movie Resolution is a great example- and a trippy movie.

Resolution huh? Always like a good trippy movie. Gonna check it out, thanks! @@PamelaLaForest

If you liked that story you should watch The Banshees of Inisherin. Great movie which has a lot of similarities to the second story.

This time Death was stronger lol

@@GlotttisI don’t think so, other than the two main characters going to the only pub. The Older of the two wanted nothing to do with the younger and even cut off his own fingers and threw them at the younger ones house. That’s just the start of it.

@@jamesbradford6316​​⁠I agree, there aren’t really very many similarities other than it being about an older man and younger man. They don’t have any of the health issues and there isn’t a mutual love for each other (especially since the older one cut his fingers off after threatening to do so if the younger spoke to him again). It is, however, a great movie

Amen 🙏

Yo that's real now ! Point blank period!

_Their*_ lives…

​​@@MDSF9090Your only moment to shine is to correct people online. Congrats! You'll go as far as that in life.

@@beekasha you’re God damn right! Thank you!!

@@MDSF9090 I just seen that, thanks. I let stuff slip out a little more now. I'm just waiting till the day I don't make it back in. I have no Idea where I'm gonna stay. Any ideas.

Wow 😳

Same here. We used to live in Guildford and drove past this bit of the A3 regularly. Always thought of him when we drove past. Thank goodness those people reported what they saw to the police.

Similar story in Malaysia back in the 80s, its a Volkswagon on a certain curved road, when you see this car do not follow behind it with your car, because it always drive off the curve and crash straight down a cliff

"poor lad" he was a criminal on the run from the police. Seems more like his life style caught up with him.

@@MrYotosun A robber doesn't deserve death no matter what they stole UNLESS they stole something that resulted in people dying. Don't be so cynical my dude.

My thoughts exactly!!!

I thought something like this. Or maybe they just had enough of their wifes, families and weren't ready to pay for them if they divorced.

That was my first thought as well...faking their deaths that is for whatever reason I do not know but sounds plausible.

I was thinking something simpler. They were robbed on their boat. The robbers may have at some point sailed out deeper to kill and dump the men, planning to steal the boat itself. They stayed on the boat for a while (hence people spotting it moving around in the same area and hence the signs of recent inhabitation on the boat), but when they saw police approaching, they fled (on a small motorised dinghy or on who knows what, whatever they used to approach the boat in the first place).

The Kaz story was a complete waste of time. After all the suspense, it went nowhere.

Seriously, I feel like I'd be plagued non stop wondering if they're suffering or not. Both my parents died during the pandemic and whenever I start to feel sorry for myself, I remember to be grateful that they weren't violently ripped from this world!

I get anxiety too but for other reasons like how can 3 people be on a boat and then not on a boat and nobody have seen them and still don’t know what happened or where they are that’s some scary stuff. Like one question is were they taken bc the sail was tattered so something happened im sure it wasn’t tattered when they bought it. Idk that last one was crazy

Even without the added information, just looking at them, I can't help but think that their trip was for other purposes and that their actual itinerary had to be registered somewhere in order to avoid official inquiries. I also speculate that their true intentions were probably responsible for the demise of all three...

@@avamasquerade can you elaborate? I'm curious!

@@avamasquerade What kind of theory do you propose? I was thinking this was something more along the lines of a boat armed robbery or hijacking, at more or less around the beginning of their trip, potentially right after shooting those videos. And then after everything that occured had occur, they guessed officials would be looking for them and found a way to abandon the boat before they did. Probably a stupid theory but I can't think of any other reason for people to have very recently been active on that boat and then suddenly not being there. Maybe the criminals had come prepared to scuba-dive off? Idk lol

Please explain in more detail! I’m curious.

Ghost balls

​@@StonedSammieSueghost balls? Lol wth

That's wild. Remember them and feel like sharing? 😅

I humbly request a lovely summary of these 'experiences'

I think it's because he's telling it more like he's telling us personally, as though he's right in front of us, rather than just narrating off a script like many others narrate

There definitely are a lot of fake stories taken directly from reddit with 0 source on his channel

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whats that even mean wtf many ppl are alive the same time as greats in history idealizing someone who can do mire than tell a story would be a start

Yes, it will create another story like this .. creating a ghost background.

Atleast why dont they contact those people and try to get the actual place.

That's the first thing I thought of as well.

I think it was some people with a guilty conscience possibly some friend or family member. If not that maybe a coverup by police after things went south trying to get the guy.

It’s fantastic lmao

It's so cringe but I can deal with it cuz Mr ballen is cool. He's like that goofy cringey dad type of character

If you liked that story you should watch The Banshees of Inisherin. Great movie which has a lot of similarities to the second story.

bbbrt bbrraaappp

@@Glotttis sorry to say but I actually hated that movie. It was pretty much the exact opposite of the Frenchmen’s story.

Blessings to your daddy from England 🇬🇧 xx

you cant dedicate someone else's channel lol like wtf maybe dedicate his car

I like how much comedic disrespect he ladles onto the Like Button. Because fuck that Like Button. It knows what it did.

​@@dantemoose420😊 Exactly!

@@dantemoose420 😅😂🤣

@@dantemoose420 🤣🤣🤣

The Seagull Lung always gets me hahaha

Lol creepy! But also awesome

Omg😮

That was so hard to read, the sentence structure was all over the place...

@@loganbrooks7800awww bless you. Did you struggle a little?

@@Jessepigman69😂 I had no problem reading it myself… 😊 I think some people just like to complain… 😩

Yeah the weather is a serious factor for travel. So many people have died this way. Some in the mountains, the desert, snowstorms, etc. Nature controls US, not the other way around. People forget its power

Yeah it's no joke, plenty of times I've driven in North Wales as a teen with my mates. I can remember the worst time when I had a car full of people and luggage in a storm. The motorway was bendy and at a high incline and I was just about going 40 with my foot fully down, the rain was so intense I literally couldn't see out of windscreen with full wipers on. Terrifying experience, absolutely powerless in that moment.

If those teens had followed the Third Commandment and gone to church on Sunday morning instead of going camping, they would be alive right now.

@@lilyw.719Gurl shut up

@@TMeyer-ge5pjRight! It’s important to respect Mother Nature

Yeah & that the Lungs pins are already sold out. Bummer! I really wanted one

@@MK-285 same!! Omg, I paused the video and hopped right on to the merch site as soon as he mentioned the pins... Gone lol. Took less than 2 hrs. Really hoping he drops some more! I need a Lungy pin in the worst way 😂

corpses can't recreate anything. unless this was a great hoax.

That's so sad. He needs to realize life can be very strange and we have no control over things like that. Tell him that he had no responsibility over what happened and we have enough stress and worry without blaming ourselves when something like that happens. Good luck to you both. 🎉❤

It wasn't his fault 💔

No fault for him selling the chicken wings....I hope he can overcome his guilt...

sorry but its just dumb to feel like he's at fault. He didn't shove em down her throat. That would be like a car dealer feeling at fault for someone having an accident. Ridiculous

@@Necrowolf81 it's almost as if emotions are sometimes irrational, Necrowolf. I'm sure he can feel guilt yet also know that he actually didn't kill her;two things can be true at the same time.

Sad for everyone, the robbed and the robber. So it was just a coincidence that the cops found the wrong car? But then where's the car everyone saw? Did at least the colour match?

Right?? Being in the med field since I was 19, I always try to “diagnose” the patient before I find out what happens. It’s a fun game I like to play 😂

I'm in the computer field myself, but I've always been fascinated with medical stuff, especially how something can go spectacularly wrong sometimes. Like all of a sudden you are allergic to something you have been eating all your life up until that point? Weirdness. Reason I bring up computers is that there is a principle known as "Universal design", and that, the human body truly is not. :)

This is odd to say but if you like anime you should watch The Apothecary Daries it's about medical and medicinal mystery very nice watch.

Same

yes because he just states the strange stories without adding any BS explanations like a lot of others do

Because..u need to search more😂...

Scary interesting is also good 👍🏽

He does have real emotion in his voice and eyes compared to others 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@azouitinesaad3856I mean he does have a lot of bs, a lot of his stories he’s making up information which has nothing to do with the story and isn’t real at all, just adds it to make the stories longer.

I agree...exactly. I would explain why the boat suddenly turned into open water when they said they would stay near shore and why no bodies were found on board. I wonder if the person that all those witnesses saw piloting the boat really was one of the 3 men...was it somebody else, or was it Dez??? Yeah, it seems strange that Dez would be that overly concerned about safety for veteran sailors like they were.

@@bettywith2girls Yep! I wonder if they looked into that theory at all?

I’m sure they looked into all possibilities but without any sign of foul play and none of the men being found, they really have nothing to go off of.

Ufo took them

Yeah, it does seem odd that 3 experienced sailors would be that worried about open water. Unless it was exaggerated for the story. But at the same time, open ocean can actually be a very dangerous place and a 30 footer is not that big of a boat when it comes to the ocean. 5-6 foot seas and you'll have water cresting the bow. My guess is, something happened the very first day and the craft had been on its own since. There could easily have been a scrap of sail on the wheel that gave the impression someone was there and that'd explain why it passed the bay twice, it drifted in a large circle. Same with the reefs, it was caught in the currents and drifted with them through the reefs. Most of the time people would hit a reef was because of bad storms or they were underway, not adrift. As to what happened to the men, well, the sail being torn suggests a storm at some point, if all the were on deck with no safety lines and a wave hit, they're overboard. The evidence that people had been there recently could have been misinterpreted, it's not like weeks had passed after all.

U sure ?

@@niranjanmurthy126 most time

Ok wat u have for dinner

@@niranjanmurthy126 chilli

@@TaliRicieri doesn't that too spicy !?

I've had trouble with you tube too. I get my notifications so late. Sometimes it's days. That's not coo😢

I remember those days. Man 3 to 4 days of Mr ballen. I just binge watched the old episodes again

I've been randomly unsubbed from one of the channels i watch before too.

Eek! You could get a dash cam and send any suspicious footage to the “ghosts caught on canera” channels

Thats demonic you need to get into prayer bc those vulnerable in spirit are targeted by evil

Same here!

It's a part of my routine now...I agree!

Count me in as well. During my late night computer work his stories keep me company. Wonder how I would be awake without them. Tq Mr Ballen

I concur ‼️❤

Right?! My son just turned 33 but he has the same giggle and instantly he's my baby boy!

And how can all of the things turned on and fresh food out be explained? And people seeing one of the men driving through the coral reefs. That story is so strange!!

@@autumnrose_noseinabook If you recall it was not stated that they saw a man piloting through the reefs, what was stated is that the boat appeared to be being navigated through the reefs due nothing happening in what are otherwise very dangerous waters (my assumption here is it just lucky with the currents moving it through the less hazardous parts of the reef, something similar has both occurred and been documented, look into the SS Baychimo as a example). Likewise it was never stated that the food was "fresh" only that it was fresher than what would be expected given the time frame of their departure, assuming what befell the men occurred the day of departure and not in the subsequent days, it also never states what kind of food was found it could of been food items that hold their preservation longer than others i.e. canned food vs fruit. It is also worth noting that when it comes to catamarans like the Kaz II, that the fuel storage is situated within the pontoons of the vessel and can consist of two or four tanks one or two in each pontoon respectively depending on design, given the size of the vessel it was likely the former. Given the length of their plotted course it can be assumed they likely provisioned for a long journey and thus taken on more fuel to make the trip in less stops, to my knowledge the northern half of Australia which their course was going to take them along is sparsely populated and far less so than the eastern or western coasts of the country where they originated and traveling to respectively thus likely has less refueling points. This would all explain the ability for both the ship to remain in idle for a extended duration and connected powered devices to still be powered as well, so this should not be surprising in the least. What is surprising is the state of the vessel and the items within it, what I mean by this is that there was no signs of distress, panic, looting, damage (aside from the sail) etc. so this would typically rule out things such as piracy, detrimental contact with undersea topography i.e. reefs, sudden weather related phenomenon i.e. rogue wave, a medical emergency i.e. no disturbed affects or attempted access to life saving equipment etc. and thus we can also assume that whatever occurred happened very rapidly and without warning. Now as for my hypothesis on the matter, we do know for sure the men had been fishing as is documented by the found footage and the pole still within the rod holder with the line dragging in the water. Thus my hypothesis centers on the assumption that the men had been fishing and potentially snagged a rather large fish, some of which like the broadbill swordfish (which is native to eastern Australia) can weigh up to 1102 lbs (500 kg) and can be quite the struggle for one person to manage especially those bodies are not in the peak of fitness and or are aged beyond their prime, likewise undersea topography could have been snagged (which could be mistakenly assumed for a large fish). Thus I believe one of them snagged (possible mistakenly) a large fish and could not cope with the struggle on their own and requiring the other two men to assist, one or more men could have lost their footing (since they would be struggling on a likely rocking boat) and fell into the water and by time they got their bearings after falling in the boat was already some distance away from them, as we know that the sail was in operation at the time of the incident (due to its tattered nature upon its discovery which would not have likely occurred had it been stowed) and thus the wind and likely the current pushed the boat out of their reach and they drowned at sea as a result. Now it may not have played out exactly like that and some other variables may have occurred however, I highly suspect that fishing and its results was highly involved in what befell the men given the evidence we are presented with.

I think the witnesses describing the boat being steered points to a different scenario. The two brothers may indeed have fallen overboard rather early, but Batten wasn't. He might have been in a poor mental state after that and simply sailed around and around in the area looking for his friends before finally jumping off himself.

I THINK ITS AN INSURANCE SCAM INVOLVING ALL 3 MISSING GUYS AND THE FAMILIES IVE MULLED THIS OVER AND NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE THEY MESSED UP THE SAIL TO LOOK LIKE THEYD BEEN IN A BAD STORM AND GONE OVERBOARD OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE SEA WATER ALL IN THE BOAT IF A STORM HAD OCCURRED BUT THEY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN NO I THINK THEY WERE PICKED UP BY A PRE ARRANGED BOAT AFTER MESSING UP THE KAZ AS BEST THEY COULD THEN VANISHED. I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE IF THEY MADE A LARGE INSURANCE POLICY BEFORE THEY SET SAIL AND WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE NO WAY WERE THEY KIDNAPPED THEY WERENT IN DANGEROUS PIRATE WATERS AND THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A RANSOM DEMAND. ITS A MASSIVE INSURANCE JOB AND OBVIOUSLY THE 3 GUYS ARE WORTH CONSIDERABLY MORE DEAD THAN ALIVE MUST BE A HUGE PAY OUT ALL 3 FAMILIES ARE INVOLVED THATS MY THEORY SORRY I WENT ON A BIT THEN IM GOING TO TRY AND CONTACT THE RELEVANT PEOPLE AND ASK IF THEYVE COME UP WITH A SIMILAR THEORY CHEERS BE LUCKY 🌈💥❤️

@@BiggusD77 I agree.

We need to proclaim this routine the Ballen Evening Repose. So many of us Ballies are doing this very thing after a long day.

MrBallen is entertaining with a calming voice. I've tried watching Wendigoon, but his voice is monotonous.

@@IWantToPetYourDog agreed

Every story has to be a local story somewhere

@cemeteryexplorer Well, no shit, but the odds are next to zero...That's her point, you annoying know it all.

Who knows how many times you've passed by that very spot where it happened? Kinda spooky when you think about it.

duh @@cemeteryexplorer

Yeah, it's called a death loop memory. Also known as Stone Tape Theory, or Residual Haunting. When traumatic events occurred. It's fascinating and tragic, right?

The energy/memory imprint theory has been science's attempt to explain the phenomenon without yielding to a belief in humans having souls and a spiritual world existing. Christianity explains that demons (fallen angels who rebelled with Satan during the fall from grace), are basically exactly like they are depicted in The Exorcist, movie makeup not included. They're disembodied spirits who have never lived and anything that offends God is something they revel in, so they like to frequent areas where extreme violence, evil, or death is or was prevalent and when they speak, it's usually something vulgar or blasphemous. There's a verse in the Bible that says "And no wonder (that false prophets exist), for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light." They appear as people's loved ones. The world calls them "ghosts" or "friendly spirits." The more violent occurrences, like the crash in this video, are enjoyable for them to reenact. There's one account of a death loop presence like this in California where a horsewoman was killed after taking a deadman's curve at high speeds on Creek Road in the Ojai Valley. People have reported seeing the woman, on horseback, take off galloping at top speed and when she reaches the curve where she died, the horse stumbles, she falls, and disappears. She does this on loop every year on the anniversary of her death. There are a bunch of other demons that frequent the area, too. One's a burned man who runs screaming out of the forest to attack anyone who stops on the bridge. The locals have taken to calling that one the Charman and have reported smelling burning flesh. Most people report believing in the paranormal and a spiritual plane whether they believe in religious faith or not. The reality is that they're just one and the same. Islam calls these malevolent spirits djinn. Either way, it's not really a FAFO encounter that you want to have.