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We will solve these two very popular exponential types of equations, x^x^3=2 and x^x^3=3. The equation in the form of x^x^n=n is actually one of the classic famous coffin problems. This isn't the type of equations you will see in your typical algebra class but you should know them for math competitions. We will also use the Lambert W function to solve x^x^3=2.
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solving x^x^3=2 0:33
solving x^x^3=3 3:52
*The Journey to the Infinite Power Tower*
Part1: Solving x^x^3=2 vs. x^x^3=3 • they don’t teach these...
Part2: Solving x^x^...=2 vs. x^x^...=3 • Infinite Power Tower E...
Part3: Domain and Range of y=x^x^... • Domain and Range of th...
Part4: Why (cbrt(3))^(cbrt(3))^... converges to 2.4 and NOT 3? • Why it doesn't converg...
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
The other parts will be published later. If you cannot wait, then check out my other channel (in Mandarin): ru-vid.com/show-UCrONDbyO94HIrJyfhS6qfjAvideos
@ozzymandius666
@ozzymandius666 4 года назад
When writing Chinese characters, the order of each brush-stroke is very important.
@pauljackson3491
@pauljackson3491 4 года назад
Well that answers my question. What "dialect" of "Chinese" do you speak? They are in quotes because Chinese isn't just one language and things like Mandarin and Cantonese aren't dialects.
@youkaihenge5892
@youkaihenge5892 4 года назад
@@ozzymandius666 I speak and write japanese and I love how its simplified Kanji from the Chinese Dialect 😃 Bad part is Japanese read each Kanji with two or more readings called 音読み and 訓読み
@alfiangunawan5946
@alfiangunawan5946 4 года назад
i just know that you have other channel in mandarin. thanks a lot for making that channel!
@erikkonstas
@erikkonstas 4 года назад
Why don't you feature your two other channels?
@douro20
@douro20 2 года назад
We never talked about W in algebra class when I was in college. I think it would had been a good subject for the class.
@thorstenbrandt8739
@thorstenbrandt8739 Год назад
College is not "scientific" enough...
@maxamedmuuse4882
@maxamedmuuse4882 4 года назад
You already know what blackpenredpen will say....hello! lovely voice.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Lol thanks!
@vietphamhung3290
@vietphamhung3290 4 года назад
@@blackpenredpen you are so cute 😍😍
@jofx4051
@jofx4051 4 года назад
Alright, I am already expecting Lambert function here
@youmemeyou
@youmemeyou 4 года назад
Ok
@mohammadfahrurrozy8082
@mohammadfahrurrozy8082 4 года назад
Lambert function is so cool!
@Nylspider
@Nylspider 4 года назад
You thought right
@pauljackson3491
@pauljackson3491 4 года назад
I like it how you say "Let's do some Math for fun." Isn't all Math fun!
@erikkonstas
@erikkonstas 4 года назад
Only pure, pure math. The things they make seniors study in Greece are outrageous...
@erik-ic3tp
@erik-ic3tp 4 года назад
@@erikkonstas, What's wrong with math education in Greece? Your country once pioneered mathematics.
@pbj4184
@pbj4184 4 года назад
Math by itself is fun but when you're forced to memorize stuff for exams, it loses its value
@erikkonstas
@erikkonstas 4 года назад
@@erik-ic3tp Man, you don't want to know, it's horrible. And, yes, this is a great shame some of us think could land the country in total despair very soon. Thales's, Pythagoras's, Archimedes's, Euclid's and the other great mathematicians' bones are shaking...
@jcers
@jcers 4 года назад
I smell Lambert W function incoming I was right
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Yes
@gigachad6844
@gigachad6844 3 года назад
You can substitute x^3 as other variable and then solve
@ryderpham5464
@ryderpham5464 4 года назад
Woah the new RU-vid UI on this video is so cool! I love seeing the timebar all sectioned and labelled ❤️
@Meilo0110
@Meilo0110 4 года назад
You're the reason why I'm good at math, I'm only 17 and I already mastered algebra and some parts of calculus thanks to you. Keep up the amazing work. You deserve 1 million subs or even more. Greatest math teacher ever♾️🙂
@Careerhumresource
@Careerhumresource Месяц назад
I'm 11
@Nylspider
@Nylspider 4 года назад
I love the abrupt starts! You always are so excited to get into the math! Are you going to do some videos on the AOIME problems? #YAY
@advaitanand1864
@advaitanand1864 4 года назад
You really explain every problem very well.
@ffggddss
@ffggddss 4 года назад
Ah, I think I can see how this will go. First take ln of both sides, then a little sleight of hand to make it fit the Lambert W function. Same approach for both problems; call the constant on the RHS, "a" : x^(x³) = a x³ lnx = ln a e^(3 lnx) lnx = ln a . . . . . . [from this line on, is a correction of what I had initially.] e^(3 lnx) 3 lnx = 3 ln a 3 lnx = W(3 ln a) x = e^(⅓W(3 ln a)) With a = 2, 3, the results are: 3 ln 2 = 2.07944154...; W(3 ln 2) = 0.8706335...; x = e^(⅓W(3 ln 2)) = 1.336709735... 3 ln 3 = 3.29583687...; W(3 ln 3) = ln 3 = 1.0986...; x = e^(⅓ ln 3) = 1.442249570... Post-watch: AHA! I should have gone . . . x = e^(⅓ ln 3) = ∛3 = 1.442249570... Fred
@Jupiterninja95
@Jupiterninja95 4 года назад
Whoa!! I didn't know you could divide videos into sections like that!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Yea it’s a new feature. I think it’s so cool!
@nintendoswitchfan4953
@nintendoswitchfan4953 2 года назад
Same , i think its cool too
@youkaihenge5892
@youkaihenge5892 4 года назад
Could you do a video showing that if a Sequence is "Cauchy" that it converges? 🙂 One of my favorite Theorems.
@michaelroditis1952
@michaelroditis1952 4 года назад
Man I love you! You are probably the most friendly guy on youtube!
@deeznuts8624
@deeznuts8624 Год назад
Answer to 1st can be 2^(1/4). Taking natural log, x³ ln x = ln 2 x³ = ln 2/ln x x³ = 2/x (using base change theorem) x⁴ = 2 x = 2^(1/4)
@AverageCommentor
@AverageCommentor Месяц назад
The base change theorem doesn't work quite like that; 2 and x are different bases so if you were to change to base 2 you would get x^3 = 1/log_2(x). And if you changed to base x you would get x^3 = log_x(2). No base change gets you 2/x.
@adamwright4634
@adamwright4634 4 года назад
I just raised both sides to 1/3, then took the natural log, and then the product log, and then just solved for x to get, x=e^w(ln(2^1/3)) for the first one, same method for the other one as well
@Vivek-io3gj
@Vivek-io3gj 2 года назад
Year late reply but that doesn’t work because then it would be 1/3 x^3 in the exponent and would not cancel the cubed
@adamwright4634
@adamwright4634 2 года назад
@@Vivek-io3gj could you not swap around the exponents?
@Vivek-io3gj
@Vivek-io3gj 2 года назад
@@adamwright4634 you cant because it’s x^(x^3)^1/3 not x^((x^3)^1/3)
@rob876
@rob876 4 года назад
Thought you might be interested in this :- written in a language that won't die too soon: -- cannot declare variables in postgresql - we're using 'from ( select 5.0*exp(5.0) as z ) as declarations' instead with recursive lambert_w as ( select z, 1 as n, case when z 1.0e-41 ) select n, w, w*exp(w) from lambert_w And, in a language that is about to die (VBA): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ' The Lambert W function is the function W(x) such that W(x)*exp(W(x)) = x ' or W(x*exp(x)) = x, since W(W*exp(W)) = W if we take W of both sides of the above equation. Public Function LAMBERTW(x as double) As Double Dim W, eW, WeW, WeW_x, dW As Double ' First guess for Lambert W If x
@DanBurgaud
@DanBurgaud 3 года назад
I like how you manipulate ln, e, W to come up with great solutions...
@Kdd160
@Kdd160 4 года назад
很棒的視頻!我先解決了問題,然後看了您的視頻。您解決的方法是完全相同的:))
@JoseVieira-hs9qo
@JoseVieira-hs9qo 3 месяца назад
HI @blackpenredpen can you tell me how I get, using Lambert as you did, the negative value of the result in this case?: x^x^2=16, the result should be +/-2 or am I missunderstanding this?
@zhendai
@zhendai 4 года назад
Love the vids !!
@eriktruong9856
@eriktruong9856 3 года назад
Are you allowed to derivate both sides of the equation instead of using the W function?
@christianmanuba539
@christianmanuba539 4 года назад
Hey! I know this is a bit irrelevant to the topic of this video but can you try and solve inverse laplace using contour method? Thanks😊😊
@prashantshukla6018
@prashantshukla6018 4 года назад
Your the best mathematician PLZZ can u make a video on question of Indian prmo questions they're very tough.. thankyou sir
@cavansirhasanzada1755
@cavansirhasanzada1755 4 года назад
Excellent work
@sobhansyed4482
@sobhansyed4482 4 года назад
you can also make e^[(1/3)w(3ln3)] into cube root 3 by making the first 3 in w(3ln3) e^ln3 cuz it becomes w(ln(3)e^ln3) they cancel so it becomes ln3 then e^(1/3 ln3) can become e^(ln(3^(1/3)) e and ln cancel so you end up with 3^(1/3)
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
Mmm... yes and no. The Lambert W map is multivalued. So while one of the two branches -1 and 0 will evaluate to this, its objectively more useful to leave it in terms of the Lambert W expression because of the branches.
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236
@hamiltonianpathondodecahed5236 4 года назад
umm didn't he do this in the video ?
@2ndtik
@2ndtik 4 года назад
Pre-celebration for your channel getting 500k subs!!!!
@Exachad
@Exachad 4 года назад
Almost 500k!
@tungstengaming3440
@tungstengaming3440 2 года назад
I love this channel
@egillandersson1780
@egillandersson1780 4 года назад
Very nice video !!!
@Chill----
@Chill---- 4 года назад
Blackpenredpen you solved the question elegantly. Very much impressed!
@tobyzxcd
@tobyzxcd 4 года назад
Nearly HALF A MILLION subs!!!!
@funnyyoushouldsaytha
@funnyyoushouldsaytha 4 года назад
Man this was a great video
@JordHaj
@JordHaj 4 года назад
6:01 this reminds me infinitely nested Michael Jordans!
@einsteingonzalez4336
@einsteingonzalez4336 4 года назад
3:23 So I analyzed the Chinese that you spoke in your channel, and found out that it's 二分的[what number] or 三分的[what number], and so on. That means a half, a third, or a specifc number of times that the number in the numerator is being divided.
@robsbackyardastrophotograp8885
@robsbackyardastrophotograp8885 4 года назад
I like the little timestamp chapters. When did YT add this?
@gigachad6844
@gigachad6844 3 года назад
Say x^x^3 = k Put x^3 = t this means x=t(1/3) (t(1/3))^t =k t^t/3 =k t^t=k^3 If k=3 by observation t=3 aka x=3^(1/3) If k=2 solve t^t =8, t is about 2.9 aka x=1.33
@R2242V
@R2242V 2 года назад
Thank you, I was looking for this kind of solution.
@KiNG_282_
@KiNG_282_ 4 года назад
I don't know why I can't sleep without watching your videos 😍😍
@2false637
@2false637 4 года назад
Hey BPRP, do you know any good resources for analysis?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Dr. Peyam and Prof. Penn's channels : )
@integralboi2900
@integralboi2900 4 года назад
I wonder what’s going to be in part 2,maybe a infinite power tower?
@integralboi2900
@integralboi2900 4 года назад
*an
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Yes. Will release that this coming Friday
@leif1075
@leif1075 4 года назад
Important question. I took ln of both sides. Then i divided both sides by x^3 so i have ln x equals ln 2/x^3..Then i took thebderviative with respect to x of both sides to get rid of the ln x and be able to solve for x. Taking the derivative of both sides gets me 1/x equals ln 2(-3x^-4)..therefore solving for x you get x^3 equals -3(ln 2)..so taking the cibe root yiu get x equals the cube root of -3(ln2). Didnt a lot of people do it this way? it's totally valid i dont see why not? Especially if you dont k ow Lambert's function. It's still the same x variable even though i took the derivative so it's the correct value.
@OriginalSuschi
@OriginalSuschi 4 года назад
Leif ok after taking the derivative we have 1/x=-3ln(2)/x^4. After multiplying by x^4 we get x^3=-3ln(2) so: x=cbrt(-3ln(2)) The only things possible here are: 1. We did a mistake 2. There are more than one answer for this. 3. Both solutions equal to each other. When this is right, you've proven that e^(W(3ln(2))/3)=cbrt(-3ln(2))... But it's sadly not :( It's really weird. I can't spot the mistake here... bprp pls help
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
Leif No, it isn't valid. The fact that two functions are equal to each other at a point does not imply their derivatives are equal to each other at that point. In other words, f(x) = g(x) at x = c does not imply f'(x) = g'(x) at x = c. I have very simple counterexample to prove this. sin(x) = cos(x) if x = π/4. Taking the derivative yields cos(x) = -sin(x), and substituting x = π/4 implies 1/sqrt(2) = -1/sqrt(2), which is false. This just proves that taking the derivative is not a valid operation here.
@prateekmourya9567
@prateekmourya9567 4 года назад
I have really good question for you if alpha and beta are roots of equation x^2-x-1(Fibonacci equation) we define a function f(n)=alpha^n+beta^n then prove that f(n+1)=f(n)+f(n-1)
@navaneethnani1481
@navaneethnani1481 4 года назад
I am great fan you sir! You are my cool! 😎 Maths teacher 💯
@purpleontop2133
@purpleontop2133 4 года назад
Love the chain chomp
@arctan-k
@arctan-k 4 года назад
3:25 We say kinda same in Kazakh
@tasninnewaz6790
@tasninnewaz6790 4 года назад
Please upload factorisation of cyclic expressions using factor theorem and How it works and What is the real life apllication of cyclic polynomial ?
@dekunut6416
@dekunut6416 4 года назад
super interesting!
@aspectator3680
@aspectator3680 3 года назад
Hello @blackpenredpen, whats about x^x^x=2 ?
@alanclarke4646
@alanclarke4646 Год назад
In the Observation, where does the 3= ( x to 3rd power) come from?
@martinzone8153
@martinzone8153 4 года назад
What'the link for the chinese channel?
@aditya_01_jha
@aditya_01_jha 4 года назад
Hi sir great job. I am from India Love you sir♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@cosmolbfu67
@cosmolbfu67 4 дня назад
x^(x^3)=2 (x^3)^(x^3) = 2^3 (x^3)•ln(x^3) = 3ln2 In(x^3)•e^ln(x^3) = 3ln2 ln(x^3) = w(3ln2) x = e^(w(3ln2)/3)
@OmnipotentPotato
@OmnipotentPotato 3 дня назад
Since e^(⅓W(3ln3)) is the same as ³√3, which is basically 3^⅓, does that mean that e^W(3ln3) is 3?
@arctan-k
@arctan-k 4 года назад
btw, in 6:49 we can do it until the number gets bigger than e^(1/e), this is kinda cool
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Yea if u only have finite amount of x
@Yazoon_S
@Yazoon_S 4 года назад
This reminded me of the good ol’ school days EDIT: good thing that i still have the school notebook , so i can relook at the ln laws if (somehow) needed
@hilmi-litv1179
@hilmi-litv1179 4 года назад
I don't know why but I love this guy
@ejb7969
@ejb7969 4 года назад
It's the fish, and the smile, and lately, that little beard ... ... "isn't it?" You rarely get any of that with math teachers.
@manishkumartangri2521
@manishkumartangri2521 4 года назад
Please make a video on ith derivative of x^i
@andreimiga8101
@andreimiga8101 4 года назад
Hey bprp! How do you integrate W(x)?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
To integrate W(x), you use a u-substitution. Let u = W(x). Hence x = ue^u, hence dx = (u + 1)e^u·du. Therefore, when you convert everything "to the u-world" and simplify the integrand, this becomes the antiderivative of u(u + 1)e^u with respect to u. Integrate this by parts by differentiating u(u + 1) to 2u + 1 and antidifferentiating e^u to e^u. This results in u(u + 1)e^u minus the antiderivative of (2u + 1)e^u. (2u + 1)e^u can itself be antidifferentiated by parts by differentiating 2u + 1 to 2 and antidifferentiating e^u to e^u, resulting in (2u + 1)e^u minus the antiderivative of 2e^u, which is just 2e^u. Therefore, the antiderivative of u(u + 1)e^u with respect to u is given by u(u + 1)e^u - (2u + 1)e^u + 2e^u. Notice that u = W(x) and x = ue^u. Therefore, u(u + 1)e^u - (2u + 1)e^u + 2e^u = [W(x) + 1]x - 2x - e^W(x) + 2e^W(x) = x[W(x) + 1] - 2x + e^W(x) = x[W(x) + 1] - 2x + x/W(x). With all the simplifications completed, don't forget to add your +C. Therefore, the antiderivative of W(x) is x[W(x) + 1] - 2x + x/W(x) + C.
@nasserdawood2171
@nasserdawood2171 2 года назад
For eq(1) x^x^3 = 2 We can also use ssrt method. (X^3)^(x^3) = 2^3 x^3 = ssrt(8) x = (ssrt(8))^(1/3)
@lgooch
@lgooch 2 года назад
You can use it in bith
@musicisthefoodofthesoul
@musicisthefoodofthesoul 4 года назад
I’m new to this channel. The π at 0:29 looks like the π in 3blue1brown 😁
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Because it is! : ) I got it from his merch store!
@theimmux3034
@theimmux3034 4 года назад
That's so cool
@Mephisto707
@Mephisto707 Год назад
How do you know there are no negative solution? Also, Since Lambert W function is multivalued, can’t there be more positive real answers?
@sussushi
@sussushi 4 года назад
Hats off dude
@equalcell1555
@equalcell1555 4 года назад
Where is your old board?
@mathadventuress
@mathadventuress 4 года назад
What course is this taught in? I haven't covered this
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
Ideally, in a precalculus course.
@prabhakarmishra9042
@prabhakarmishra9042 4 года назад
Really interesting... Is there any other methods of solving this question?
@frankk2231
@frankk2231 4 года назад
Newton's method is quite fast 1.5 1.40 1.348 1.3371 1.33671
@ralphocava4130
@ralphocava4130 4 года назад
Best outro music for math... 2020 is extracting the good juice from people...
@ayushgangrade2443
@ayushgangrade2443 4 года назад
Simply comparing x^3=1 Taking cube roots of unity W, w^2,1 and further simplification
@supersaiyan2
@supersaiyan2 4 года назад
Can you solve for x: x^(x/(1-x))=1
@DanDart
@DanDart Месяц назад
So it looks like a property of W is that W(xlnx) = lnx as well.
@curiousaboutphysics8605
@curiousaboutphysics8605 4 года назад
An Easy peasy question for you- Find the sum of series: sin x+3sin 3x+5sin5x +...... +(2k-1) sin(2k-1) x. (Using calculus)
@nuklearboysymbiote
@nuklearboysymbiote 4 года назад
三分之一 3 parts take 1 haha! This feels like watching a translated version lol
@sthinvc
@sthinvc 4 года назад
Can I have the link for your Chinese channel as I am from Hong Kong in which Chinese will be more familiar with me.
@moregirl4585
@moregirl4585 4 года назад
Is it allowed to still say x=e^(W(3ln3)/3)=e^(W(ln3 e^ln3)/3)=e^(ln3/3) in an exam where W is not taught?
@ttchip8464
@ttchip8464 Год назад
The thing that kinda irks me tho is if you need to use the Lambert W function, you are likely using software like wolfram alpha anyway to solve it, which means why not just plug the original in wolfram alpha anyway since u need to use it either case
@alvindrajaya3878
@alvindrajaya3878 4 года назад
Sir,, can you solve this problem: integral of [e^(tan3x)]*(secx)^2 dx Thank"s
@mathematicalworld4063
@mathematicalworld4063 4 года назад
didnt you also have a video for x^x^x^2017...... x=2017^1/2017
@jorgesponja3042
@jorgesponja3042 4 года назад
Omg the video timeline has a section with names, this is epic
@danikhan5185
@danikhan5185 4 года назад
Helooo blackpenredpen.I love ur videos and they make math a lot more interesting. can you plz help with this trigonometric question: 2cos^2x - sin^2x - 2sinx - 1 = 0. Thanks!
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
cos(x)^2 = 1 - sin(x)^2, hence 2·cos(x)^2 = 2 - 2·sin(x)^2. Therefore, 2·cos(x)^2 - sin(x)^2 - 2·sin(x) - 1 = 0 is equivalent to 2 - 2·sin(x)^2 - sin(x)^2 - 2·sin(x) - 1 = 1 - 2·sin(x) - 3·sin(x)^2 = 0, which is equivalent to 3·sin(x)^2 + 2·sin(x) - 1 = 0. Hopefully that helps you finish it.
@integralboi2900
@integralboi2900 4 года назад
That = cos(2x) + cos^2(x) -2sin(x) -1 = cos(2x) - sin^2(x) - 2sin(x) = 1-2sin^2(x)-sin^2(x) - 2sin(x) = 1-3sin^2(x)-2sin(x)=0 I’m pretty sure you know how to use the quadratic equation, so I’ll leave it here.
@jofx4051
@jofx4051 4 года назад
Plugged identity cos^2(x)=1-sin^2(x); you would solve for sin x = 1 or sin x = -1/3 The answer for it would be (in degree; it has periodic answer): x = 90 + 360*k or x = arcsin (-1/3) + 360*k (I cannot reverse sin 1/3 except using calculator, except your teacher allow it, I would leave it in this form)
@yassinezaoui4555
@yassinezaoui4555 4 года назад
I'm not bprb obviously but I suggest that u can turn the expression into à quadratic equation in terms of sin(x) then use the quadratic formula to seek for solutions. Meaning: 2cos²(x)-sin²(x)-2sin(x)-1=0 2(1-sin²(x))-sin²(x)-2sin(x)-1=0 -3sin²(x)-2sin(x)-1=0 We may notice that a-b+c=0 so sin(x)=-1 or sin(x)=-c/a=-1/3 So x=-pi/2 + 2kpi or x=arcsin(-1/3) + 2kpi where k is an integer.
@danikhan5185
@danikhan5185 4 года назад
Wow thanks guys.This community is the best!
@rhulkumr9834
@rhulkumr9834 3 года назад
i love your concepts i am from india
@SimsHacks
@SimsHacks 4 года назад
Great
@ameerunbegum7525
@ameerunbegum7525 4 года назад
@bprp you have captured all the pokemon's!!!
@alfiangunawan5946
@alfiangunawan5946 4 года назад
does that kind of equation always have 1 solution?
@OriginalSuschi
@OriginalSuschi 4 года назад
We can prove something with these solutions: e^(W(3ln(3))/3)=3^(1/3) W(3ln(3))/3=ln(3)/3 W(3ln(3))=ln(3) Like already said in the video we can plug in any number threre, so we have something really interesting: W(x(ln(x))=ln(x) Yeah but this makes totally sense since we can do x=e*ln(x), so we get W(ln(x)*e^ln(x)=ln(x)... Didn't watch your video till the end hahaha
@mamadou3076
@mamadou3076 4 года назад
Beautiful What is the brand of your pen please ? 😅
@lourensscholtz5861
@lourensscholtz5861 4 года назад
Good day I found one of your video explanations of sin3x in terms of sinx to help my daughter who is in matric. She has difficulty in another Trigonometry problem, can you maybe help us ? It was such an eye opener for my daughter, once again thank you, even if you cant help with the other problem. Regards Lourens Scholtz
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 4 года назад
so in general x^x^c=c --> x=c^(1/c) for all c>0 (as that is the domain of ln)
@behzat8489
@behzat8489 4 года назад
yes it is working even you add more powers x^x^x^..x^c=c x=c^1/c
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
Yes.
@R2242V
@R2242V 2 года назад
I tried to derivate it all the way but then x^x^3 = 1 not 3. Can it be solved without that "W" thing?
@matron9936
@matron9936 4 года назад
Just use the super root, after letting u=x^3. (tetration)
@robsonpersson8600
@robsonpersson8600 4 года назад
How can I get te W funtion , in other words where come de W funtionfu, how is it derivided?? Please
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
I have that in the description.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
He has several videos of it already, plus you can check the Wolfram Alpha page on the function and the Wikipedia page on it for an introduction to the topic. In essence, though, all it is, it is the inverse "function" of f(x) = xe^x.
@moshadj
@moshadj 4 года назад
e^{3ln(x)} = x^3 for positive x
@andreemery4964
@andreemery4964 4 года назад
For the second, you can note that W(3 ln3) = W(e^ln 3 * ln 3) = ln 3 and e^(1/3 * ln 3) = 3^(1/3) edit: i got too far ahead of myself, and it turns out he had this in the end of the video
@isaacgai3301
@isaacgai3301 4 года назад
you are from hong kong or mainland?
@sfpdonblem3200
@sfpdonblem3200 3 года назад
I was a little too proud when I was able to do question 2. Precalc is hard though
@daurenyermenov4766
@daurenyermenov4766 4 года назад
Does it mean that exp(1/2*W(2ln2)) = sqrt(2)??
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 года назад
Yes
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
Yes. You probably already see the pattern: exp(W[n·ln(n)]/n) = n^(1/n) for any positive integer n. This also implies that W(n·ln(n)) = ln(n) for any n. In fact, more generally, W[x·ln(x)] = ln(x) for any x satisfying the domain restrictions (and if you allow complex numbers, then for all nonzero complex x).
@volodymyrgandzhuk361
@volodymyrgandzhuk361 4 года назад
What about super quadratic equations?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 года назад
It works more or less the same.
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 4 года назад
there are two more solutions as well for the right side: (-1)^(2/3) and (-1)^(4/3) times the cuberoot of 3
@Shreyas_Jaiswal
@Shreyas_Jaiswal 2 года назад
But you need the solutions to be in real world.
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 2 года назад
@@Shreyas_Jaiswal they are in real world, they just happen to not fit in the set of real numbers.
@Shreyas_Jaiswal
@Shreyas_Jaiswal 2 года назад
@@MrRyanroberson1 real world means on earth. But complex numbers are on moon. 😂😂
@denielalain5701
@denielalain5701 3 месяца назад
Hello! I jumped to it the following way, and my solution got very peculiar compared to yours, and i could only wonder wether i made a mistake, or i could bring a product out from the Lambert W function. I got it like this: (x^x)^3=2 x^x=2^(1/3) x*lnx = ln(2^(1/3)) e^(lnx) *lnx = (1/3)*ln2 W(e^(lnx) *lnx) = W((1/3)*ln2) lnx = W((1/3)*ln2) x = e^W( (1/3)*ln2 ) instead of your x = e^( (1/3)*W(3 * ln2 ) ) Is it a coincidence, or have i made a mistake, or what is going on?
@palmolive2005
@palmolive2005 4 года назад
what about x^x^y=y?
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 4 года назад
No paper rn as I'm on the train but def lsmbert w function
@ericherde1
@ericherde1 4 года назад
bprp has an exponential that you don’t know how to solve? It must be Lambert W!
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