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They Don't Know Compression in Deesser - SSL, Izotope, Steinberg, Waves 

Andrew Zeleno
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Compression in Deesser. SSL, Izotope, Steinberg, Waves, IK Multimedia, FabFilter don't know Dynamics. Shocking video! And an amazing Deesser Tutorial with Side-Chain analysis, types, Attack, Release, Threshold. Vocal Mixing examples. To Attend a free trial Class of this Mixing Course online send email to: mixingcourse@andrewzeleno.com
Incorrectly set up Deessers in famous Plugins for Mixing like Solid State Logic Native Vocalstrip 2, Izotope RX De-ess, Steinberg Cubase Deesser, Waves Sibilance, FabFilter Pro-DS, IK Multimedia TR5 De Esser,
Proper settings for Mixing Vocals. As a Deesser is a either Side-Chain Compressor or Dynamic EQ depending on a mode, we will start with very good graphical explanation of How Deesser Works with a Compressor's Detector explanation. Especially important how a manufacturer chooses Attack and Release Settings which are not available for a user on Deesser Plugins. We will be talking about Residual Compression and how long High Frequencies are in terms of a Waveform itself and the length of Sibilance. Also the Amount of Compression in db, Threshold position, Lookahead, Split Mode, Wideband Mode.
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@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
To Attend a free trial Class of this course send email to: mixingcourse@andrewzeleno.com 260 Reviews & Credits: www.andrewzelenocoursereview.com My Credits: www.andrewzelenocredits.com Don't waste your time reading - send me an email to get all details and to book a free trial class. Info: You get one free trial class which is a real class with my students who are taking my course right now. If you like it, you can enroll. Step 1 Read about the system: 9 months. 2 classes per week. Each class lasts 2 hours. 150 USD per month. Monthly payments. Step 2 Check if the schedule will be working for you: Group 1 = Monday 5:45 pm and Thursday 5:45 pm or Group 2 = Tuesday 1:20 pm and Friday 1:20 pm You always can attend the same class with Group1 or Group2. Time is specified in Pacific time zone (Vancouver time). Double check the time of the classes with this link: www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/canada/vancouver I hope Group 2 will be good for you as I may cancel Group 1 this year. But if Group 1 is the only Group that works for you let me know. If you can't calculate the time difference for some reason then simply speaking: Group 1 is the evening in the US Group 2 is the evening in Europe Step 3 Get a free trial class with my students to see a real class. Add me in Skype now by using my nickname: andrewzeleno It's one word: andrewzeleno
@ashotgaziyan8876
@ashotgaziyan8876 Месяц назад
Go, go , go !! Let’s push audio production by Andrew !!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks Ashot!
@ashotgaziyan8876
@ashotgaziyan8876 Месяц назад
@@AndrewZeleno1 Yo!! My pleasure, Andrew. You deserve it, plenty of knowledge You deliver.
@blamejabsdontblameunvaxed8031
@blamejabsdontblameunvaxed8031 Месяц назад
Phenomenal! Andrew is at a different level! And his course is the best thing in Music Production IMO.
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks man! It means a lot to me!
@user-rw2kx5no1t
@user-rw2kx5no1t Месяц назад
Thanks man for the video. It's amaizing as always, but not even close to your course. Just mind blowing! Your course just changed my life! Thanks for all you do!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
I appreciate that! Thank you!
@alienmachine
@alienmachine Месяц назад
Excellent explanation as usual. This is the way Andrew teaches in his course. Make yourself a favor and attend the trial class and you see how deep it goes. After I've attended it I've enrolled immediately! 😃
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thank you! It’s my pleasure to teach you!
@RommyLeVent
@RommyLeVent Месяц назад
They Don't know compression, they only use their famous names to sale you another one so called ''greatest plugin of 2024' promising that with their plugin your mixes will sound right. Thank you very much Andrew for such a great explanation! Andrew's course is highly reccomended if you want to know all those nuances of sound - check it out!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thank you Rommy! I appreciate your support!
@huberttorzewski
@huberttorzewski Месяц назад
Great video Andrew! Top-notch knowledge from a non-BS audio engineer. Really happy mixing experience after your course, I'm progressing every year like crazy thanks to you. Last 2 years I had the biggest jump in skilland still go back to the notes from lessons from time to time to remind myself.
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks Hubert! I’m glad to hear about your progress!
@mentalprogram5256
@mentalprogram5256 Месяц назад
I love when you point out flaws in plugins.
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks.
@Dmitry_Manu
@Dmitry_Manu Месяц назад
Андрей, спасибо. Просто глаза раскрыл почему после деессеров с вокалом "что-то не так"
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Спасибо Дмитрий. Рад что видео было полезным !
@user-mf8fm2rh6x
@user-mf8fm2rh6x Месяц назад
Cool video! Thank you!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Glad you liked it!
@FLAVMEDIA
@FLAVMEDIA Месяц назад
Gotta love the Stutter FX Andrew:))
@ItsMetabtw
@ItsMetabtw Месяц назад
I prefer to deal with sibilance, plosives, and breathing with manual gain adjustment automation, or manually in melodyne
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing with your experience.
@AVDRE
@AVDRE Месяц назад
Glad you did this video. I've ran into this issue with some de-essers but I didnt know what exactly it was but it always sounded off. I would love to hear your thoughts on spectral de-essers like Tone Balance Sibalance for example. Cheers!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Glad it helped!
@solo943
@solo943 Месяц назад
The relase is not there to stay untouched at default setting.... why dont you judge the plugins in a proper setting instead ??
@shaferproducergod
@shaferproducergod Месяц назад
Man I always felt this way about deessers but I thought I was trippin!! Lol We need you to redo all the classic plugins in our toolbox now that would be worth buying 🔥
@maxk4258
@maxk4258 Месяц назад
Yes, critical thinking is a key, thanks Andrew!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thank you!
@firstnamesurname6550
@firstnamesurname6550 Месяц назад
Mr Zeleno, What do you have to say about Serban Ghenea mixing skills?? ... What's "wrong" in "his sound/mixing style"??
@metalstrand2795
@metalstrand2795 Месяц назад
Slate Digital FG-DS is my fave atm
@eranddroory9987
@eranddroory9987 Месяц назад
Thanks for the video. 😊 So what is you pick for the top 3 de-essers to use?
@ruslan_vovk
@ruslan_vovk Месяц назад
Nice
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD Месяц назад
You probably won't believe me, but I actually noticed this problem with iZotope's De-esser a month ago, so i had to manually create my own de-esser out of stock Reaper's compressor. Sidechain highpass at 5000HZ, lookahead 3ms, attack 1ms, release 10 ms, still not sure about the ratio... But i think 4:1 is fine with a hard knee... Peak detection, not RMS, of course.
@jeremysikkema640
@jeremysikkema640 Месяц назад
great vid AZ! if i owned a plugin company you'd be the first guy i'd want involved ;)
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Oh thank you! :)
@allybeatz4853
@allybeatz4853 Месяц назад
That's true
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks.
@MalikAmer87
@MalikAmer87 Месяц назад
I remember the fabfilter default issue from the class😜☺️.
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD Месяц назад
I'm gonna guess it's a too long lookahead time by default? I'm probably wrong, but who knows... 😅
@MalikAmer87
@MalikAmer87 Месяц назад
@@TransistorLSD no not it, the default mode was wrong.
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD Месяц назад
@@MalikAmer87 Hey don't spill the beans! 😅 I was thinking it might be it, but honestly i don't see wideband processing as in issue for regular de-essing duties... In fact, i think wideband mode sounds more natural in many cases, it sounds closer to manual gain automation.
@DimAsWizard
@DimAsWizard Месяц назад
Хороший материал. Всё что и так понятно интуитивно, вы разложили по полочкам. Но стоит помнить, что во многих случаях и достаточно большой release звучит куда более музыкально, нежели быстрый. Тут как бы математика однозначно сильна, но не стоит и забывать о музыке. Но в целом спасибо за видео, все отлично!
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
спасибо
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD Месяц назад
Длинный релиз больше подходит для компрессии полного спектра, особенно если фундаментальная частота находится ниже 200 гц. Высокие частоты быстрые по своей природе (полная синусоида 5000гц это всего лишь 0.2мс), так что и атака/релиз для высоких частот обычно нужна куда быстрее.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 26 дней назад
Are there any good affordable deessers ?
@Projacked1
@Projacked1 Месяц назад
'....with your stupid de-esser.' Andrew, my favorite engineer on YT. 'Ptuhh ptuhhh' LOL
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Haha)) thanks!
@romanisawesome
@romanisawesome Месяц назад
Interesting 😂 ю кноу
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
thanks)
@JMBvideo
@JMBvideo Месяц назад
Seems like the best thing to do is simply lower the gain manually on your sibalent spots
@user-hy1gf5wr3m
@user-hy1gf5wr3m Месяц назад
Please tell me, which deessers would you recommend using then? Will Metric Halo Deesser or HOFA IQ-Deesser be okay?
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
It's a long story and something what I keep for students.
@frankharley442
@frankharley442 Месяц назад
Nice point but the consumer won't detec this
@covidpassforslaves1763
@covidpassforslaves1763 Месяц назад
Then don't process the sound with plugins. Most consumers will not hear any difference.
@arthursoghoyan3471
@arthursoghoyan3471 Месяц назад
Андрей спасибо вам, хотелось бы узнать ваше мнение о HOFA IQ-Series DeEsser. Это один из моих любимых де-эссеров. Какое у него качество обработки по вашему ?
@TransistorLSD
@TransistorLSD Месяц назад
Так сам возьми и проверь, зажимает ли он лишние звуки)
@arthursoghoyan3471
@arthursoghoyan3471 Месяц назад
@@TransistorLSD Я знаю , что это хороший прибор, мне было интересно мнение Андрея, а так ничего нового. )))
@patrick5301
@patrick5301 Месяц назад
Pro DS is the only good de esser anyway. You could use the pro mb in the "free" sidechain mode as well. For the best results, lower the s sounds manually. I like to use the RX audio editor in spectral mode for that and lower the entire frequency band during the sibilant sound. You won't be taking out any useful information anyway, as the mouth can't create more than one sound at once
@SuperFake777
@SuperFake777 Месяц назад
Idk what the pro ds bug is but it seems to darken the vocal I usually manually de ess with clip gain the only plugin I’ve found that sounds good as a de esser is weiss
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Weiss is one of the good ones.
@serhii-ratz
@serhii-ratz Месяц назад
The only question what we see and what we process - is it the same? Because UI and processing are 2 separate world and can be completely different in fact.
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
but I proved it by ears. Didn’t you watch?
@ssserotonin1373
@ssserotonin1373 Месяц назад
Congratulations on the knowledge thanks for sharing bro rescuing us from Babylons salesmen of snake oil lol
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Glad to help! :)
@ssserotonin1373
@ssserotonin1373 Месяц назад
@@AndrewZeleno1 out of all plugins released currently Andrew, would you say it would be more worth it to go for a psp vintage warmer 2 for vox or getting that warmth from a different plugin like a compressor or a channel strip
@checktheneck
@checktheneck Месяц назад
Эти настройки по типу classic в RX диессере повторяют поведение аналоговых приборов, там не возможно было такое быстрое срабатывание, как в цифре. А еще зачастую диессер используется на тарелках. Отчасти это то, почему до сих пор дефолтные настройки диессеров такие медленные.
@DMMirval
@DMMirval Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing knowledge. Superb level of information. One little thing : in the description of the video, you are talking about Fabfilter (meaning "in this video, you'll show this", i guess). Even on the thumbnail picture of the video, you are using their logo to make your point "they don't know compression in Deesser". And then, when you arrive on Fabilter, you just says "i'm gonna keep this information for my students". A bit weird, in my opinion (and misleading). If you want to keep this information for your students, why talking about Fabfilter ? Please, be consistent, as you always ask consistency from the companies. ;-) Thanks, anyway.
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
I got it! Thanks.
@audioproductionmusicproduc8518
@audioproductionmusicproduc8518 Месяц назад
Comment under this video please for support!
@romanisawesome
@romanisawesome Месяц назад
👌
@vadimmartynyuk
@vadimmartynyuk Месяц назад
Andrew needs to be a world king of audio
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
:) Thank you Vadim!
@golbeatspro
@golbeatspro Месяц назад
Great info, i just will pass the 'god complex' masturbation...
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
thanks
@vladlabyrinth6335
@vladlabyrinth6335 Месяц назад
Есть плагины, которые в себе несут "аналоговый звук", обрезают хайкатом верх + подбирают или наоборот добавляют низа (warm sound), возможно в этом дело, к примеру, 1-го плагина от Solid (поэтому любые новые купленные я сразу чекаю на пребдмет эквализации встроенной). А так да, без регулировок atack/release любые устройства типа компрессор - что-то непонятное.
@theunthinkable6584
@theunthinkable6584 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂Bro why you still using these plug ins if you think they not right? We can't wait see the first plug in designed or made by you bro.
@PatApoo
@PatApoo Месяц назад
Wow! Great info. Tx
@AndrewZeleno1
@AndrewZeleno1 Месяц назад
Thanks!
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