Reminds or the old Far Side cartoon where the airplane passenger is fumbling for their seat recline button, and accidentally turns the _WINGS STAY ON_ switch to the _WINGS FALL OFF_ setting.
I doubt they have any more mishaps than other shipping companies. They just have a larger operation. It's probably just proportional. Plus they're also world famous now. So we look more closely.
@@PrivateMemo Nah, whether your approach pans out or not, the fact is: Evergreen being publicly famous means any arbitrary ship can be made instantly recognizable as “huge container ship.” This channel for example uses the “Ever [topical joke]” format for various ships on a number of videos about other companies.
Huh, these animations are great, but seeing them all followed up by an image of the actual containers at the end in the report really gave a sense of "realness" to it when contrasted by the animations. I'd like to see images of damages like that in future videos (of course, contrasted by the amazing animation)
If you aren't familiar, that is how Evergreen names their fleet. They have something like 200 container ships, and they are generally in certain letter classes, so for example the Ever Given is part of their G-class, which are 11 identical ships with names like Ever Golden, Ever Genius, Ever Gentle, etc. The Ever Smart is part of their S-class, etc. I think the only ships in their fleet that don't use the name scheme are those that were built for other shipping companies and were either bought or leased by Evergreen.
I mean, the Evergreen Marine Corporation (part of the overall Evergreen Group) IS the 4th or 5th largest shipping company in the world with over 150 container ships so it's to be expected if there's an accident in the shipping world that one of their ships might be involved. Also, their accidents have done good, like when one of their ships, the Ever Laurel, lost a container with 28,800 rubber ducks called Friendly Floatees. The container somehow broke open and the horde of ducks were released into the ocean. This happened in the middle of the Pacific and allowed people to study the currents of the ocean better than they normally could've. Last I knew, they were still being recovered over a decade later as far away as the US Eastern Seaboard.
In 2019, the 395m "MSC Zoe" lost 342 containers in the North Sea, after experiencing fast and heavy rolling for several hours. Much of the cargo washed up on the shores of Dutch and German islands, causing considerable environmental damage. The joint investigation could find no breach of loading regulations. But it suggests that the relevant IMO codes may have not kept up with the development of ultra large container ships and should be updated. In particular, ULCS may be due to their high stiffness, or metacenter height, be particularly prone to short-period rolling, and thereby experience dynamic loads in excess of what the cargo securing mechanisms were designed for. I'd post the link but it seems like youtube will then hide this comment :(
First very german of you second Americans are too dumb to know to hide this comment you give us too much credit we don’t rule the world by being smart we do it with all the money
This is something of a test comment. Before writing this, there are 3 replies, and I wondered if they were the link you reference. When I click to expand however, nothing happens. No comments load, the arrow changes to indicate expansion, but no further space is used on screen. I'm thinking that might lend credence to my theory about the links, so I'm replying to see if mine will load. Edit: Mine loaded, but no other replies popped up along side it. Just trying to learn yt's weird little quirks. Thanks for indulging :) Edit 2: I know some channels use filters or something of the like to auto moderate their comments section, and I know I've seen comments with links before, even recently, so I have to wonder if it's a yt thing, or a channel decision. Perhaps to filter out spam I imagine.
@@balover2010 - I've given up on posting links on youtube, but if you spend a few minutes on a web search for "MSC Zoe joint investigation report" I'm confident you will find it.
@@balover2010 I do not see your comment with a link. Reply count says "5", but a can see only 2 replies. Maybe this is the way of RU-vid to hide unwanted comments: author can see it, but no one else can.
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Excuse my complete noviceness, but would it not be possible for the loading cranes to automatically weigh the containers are they're loaded? Is that not a thing?
also a novice here, but i don't think you can accurately weigh the containers as they're being loaded because the movements of the crane and the container will influence the measured weight. when it is measured, it has to be still. the crane operator themselves would also be pressed for time and have less incentive to practically shut down operation for a minute for every new container load, while it is being weighed and recorded.
@@Nate9273 For some reason I figured it'd be inline using a load meter of some kind, which I seem to remember many "normal" cranes have. I mean, accuracy might be not great but it would still seem like a good idea. *shrug*
Well, in theory, if you know the efficiency of your crane motor and the friction of the cable drum, you can caluclate the weight of every container just by watching the crane motor's ampere meter. The heavier the container, the more juice the crane will need to lift it. Not sure how well that would work in practice though...
It’s amazing these boxes of metal can float but are insanely dangerous because they’re so difficult to see because they float just beneath the surface What got you into making these videos? Do you have current/former maritime experience ? In the family? Let us get to know you @casualnavigation :)
@@beeble2003 Of course it is. How do you think submarines work? As a matter of fact most shipping containers will not float on the oceans surface, but instead just below it. This presents a potential hazard to other ships as a collision may damage the hull. There are special purpose ships that fish these containers out of the water
@@Immortal.. Submarines work mostly by being actively controlled. [I've deleted the rest of my comment, as it was incorrect. I'd forgotten the effect of pressure changes with depth.]
Random spot checks and fines for miss declared weights would help solve a lot of problems. If the fines are big enough you don’t have to check that many containers. Checking 1 in 10 containers with a $1000 fine, no one will care. Check 1 in 1000 containers with $500,000 fine, shippers will up their own checks real fast.
Question. what happens insurance wise? or for people who were waiting for items in those now lost containers? Also, what happens if some of those containers wash up ashore somewhere?
Many (if not most) lost containers just sink to the bottom, depending on the contents. Especially if lost in the middle of an ocean. I think Casual Navigation made a video on they very topic a while back.
Very clear and informative video. I’m again slightly surprised that the ship (or the crane loading) doesn’t capture the actual weight or the container as it goes onto the ship. I can imagine they might be less interested in over-declared weights but is there no penalty for under-declaration? Keep up the great work 😀👍
I think it may just take too long, If almost all of the container stacks on that column were overweight, and the bottoms were underweight, that means redoing the entire plan after they spent probably hours or days configuring a proper load plan.
@@pauldeddens5349 .. while I agree time is of the essence when the ship is in port, containers arrive at dockside sporadically in the days/weeks prior. Plenty of opportunity to prep before the ship arrives.
@@CTCTraining1 they scale the trailers before entering the port. Remove the tare weight of the truck/trailer and you have an exact weight of the container. Anyone that says they don't know the actual weight of containers has never been involved in stevedoring
I work in passenger vessels, not cargo, but when I got into the maritime field I did a stint on a container vessel. I was told, when loading, if you MUST fill a stack with containers under those numbers, always order them sequentially. Using the numbers here it should've been, from bottom-top: 9.6, 9.4, 9.3, 9.1, 8.2, 7.4, 4.8, 4.8. that is, of course, if the containers are declared properly. Or weighed prior to loading.
High cubes are ubiquitous and it's hard to see how that could have been the reason. And not only the so called wind lashing you can have double lashing as well, using the holes at the top of the container underneath. It's hard to imagine such fundamental errors for such well understood phenomenon. The loose lashing in other bays could have been due to flexing at sea as they are all supposed to be checked and in my experience always were. I been a member of a lashing crew waiting with the others at the top of the gangway many times, waiting for the mate to sign off that the lashing is completed properly. I 'll have a look at the report. I just had a look at the lashing plan and you can see the double lashing on the fourth tier. Also it seem I was wrong about the wind lashing. I had never seen such a thing. Also corroded twist locks like would not be used where I worked.
Planes have fallen out of the sky because the maintenance person used the wrong tape. I don't think it's that hard to believe that high Cubes, mixed with the other issues, lead to this accident.
The shorter rods should be shown as double lashed and the longer rods at the end usually will have a short extension rod added to it to make it long enough to be lashed. Even with everything lashed correctly the turnbuckles can become loose while in rough seas.
Longer rods are called 3rd height bars and they should have been double lashed on the out of the ship. But as the boxes on the outside had the wrong weight centre then they wouldn’t have done nothing.
Why ser Evergreen Marines ships so often in trouble? Is it simply because they are the biggest and has the most ships that can get into trouble, or are they just more accident prone for whatever reason?
Almost certainly just because they're a very large company. Add to that the fame of _Ever Given_ and confirmation bias: every time you hear of an Evergreen ship getting into trouble, you think "Not them again!"
The solution is of course simple, tying containers together not just in stacks but in grids, 2D across stacks or even 3D across rows. But that would mean a lot more work during loading and unloading, and it would be trickier to mix regular and high cube containers.
@@peacepipe6695 while yes it sounds small in theory, you have to remember that if you were to do this on every ship in the fleet and on every single voyage, the cost that came from tying _that_ many containers gonna stack the longer you have to stay in port, essentially negating the increased profit of _not_ losing said containers, plus, you also have to remember that this container lost situations happens mostly on bad weather, container ships generally didn't sail trough a storm and even if they do, they try to avoid the worst of it, and this scenario can be taken more as a rare occurence despite being a more common occurence statistics wise
@@twddersharkmarine7774 only 5% of US recycle is actually recycled. US still ships recycle off to Europe or Chi... that one place.. And on the way there those ships might 'lose' containers... Hmmm ?
Yeh they could do that pretty easily i think, the container weight will be directly proportional to the power needed to lift the container which is already measured by the electric whinch
Channel is a fascinating window into an under appreciated activity, and the presentation and graphics are spot on. This particular incident seems such a classic combination of tiny mistakes resulting in a failure. I wonder what the consequences were for the people responsible, if at all. The stacking of heavier loads on top looks almost like a deliberate act. But then imagine the conditions of the workers loading these ships 247365. The pressure to hit schedules must be relentless.
How do they check those containers? Do they perform some kind of load test? Or is it a visible inspection? Another thing, is if someone just pencil whipped the inspect how would the investor find out? I've seen where companies try to cut cost by not doing what they are supposed to do, look at that new horizon oil spill.
The container cranes do have a scale to weigh the container. Matter of fact, the crane operator uses the weight to judge how to fly the containers into the bays in a smooth motion.
@@AaronShenghao The trouble with finding out the weight of the containers as they are being loaded is that it is generally too late to do anything about the weight of the container due to the time pressures of loading. The problem of overweight and or miss declared containers is universal and has to be tackled before the containers enter the transport system. Shippers who make a habit of being overweight or miss declared need to be penalised repeatedly because their behaviour puts other people's lives in danger.
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I've heard of container ships carrying rifles to more quickly sink containers that have fallen off (a few holes will increase air out/water in) . If they don't sink, they can be a collision risk for other vessels
What did the containers that fell in the sea have in them? I imagine a lot of diverse things, but did they contain something priceless like art, rare vintage items, historical artefacts, or maybe something particularly dangerous/poluting? Or just thousands of TVs?
@@stylesrj That would be actually horrifying if one of those containers did have people that were trying to smuggle themselves into the country. That would be a terrible way to go. Of course the only way to ever figure that out would be to go where the containers fell and investigate them.
@@GANTZ100ptsyea at first I thought maybe a shipment of animals but then realized there could’ve even been people in those containers which is way more petrifying
@@GANTZ100pts Idk, i think they would die from the force of the container hitting the water, not drowning so it would probably not be that bad of a way to go.
It's not so bad when you stay in bed. The interesting nights are the ones where you get thrown out of bed and have several main engine failures in a night.
I work at the port of Baltimore and incorrect shipping weights is a big problem, also high cubes or low cubes it doesn't matter the lashing rods fit using an adjustable turnbuckle. The loading port simply didn't do their job
Seeing that the ship's length is 399.99m, I've got to ask: Is there some legal reason why they didn't want it to be 400m? It just seems way too specific.
5 yrs ago, my brother, a sailor, now he is a vice captain, told me that his former captain stole 3 containers full of iphone, cloth and hardware. I thought he were joke but watching your video now, I realized that they must have blame the ocean
While this was played off as an “accident” it was actually just humanity making its annual Sacrifice to Those who Live Below so they stay down there and don’t decide to come up here.
So thats where my package went... to the fishies below. Im willing to bet they have set up a whole civilisation with modern and old tech and other junk that dropped down below.
I would imagine the cargo would continue to fall into the sea as the vessel continued to list further and then the vessel would naturally right itself. If the cargo didn’t fall of the vessel, though, I’m sure it was entirely possivle
I'm not an expert but I doubt those straps are enough to pull the entire hull, unless hit by a big enough wave and at that point the ship is already compromised either way. If the containers were bolted or soldered as one with the hull however, chances would be higher. But obviously it would make no sense to do that.
It has to do with protection. Since the early days of seafaring, ships have often boasted of a, partially or entirely naked, female figure at the very front of the ship. According to superstition this could help calm a storm at sea. For me personally referring to the ships, I've been a part of and worked on since the 90's, as a "she" has more to do with the feeling - or should I say wishful thinking - that "she" will take care of me at sea in somewhat of a motherly way - protect me! It's quite hard to explain, but when you come up against the worst of weather at sea, it feels good to know that she's looking after me.
I'm very glad to see you cover this incident so well! I brought it up in a couple comments on your twistlocks video. This video did a perfect job of summarizing all the major factors discussed in the MAIB report
Why do I have to get every package I send weighed individually instead of me just saying "yeah it's about 200g, trust me", but not every single container is weighed individually?
The hi cube containers should not have been stacked such that they were over the correct height. The second problem has to do with the incorrectly loaded container weights in the wrong place in the stack. Both of these, in my opinion, contributed to the containers falling off the ship.
I didn't know about that but its kinda funny, atleast something has a use for all our pollution. (Other than scientists who often track highly boyant lost cargo like rubber ducks to map ocean currents. They have a known release point and time, and a known discovery date and time, and are usually easily identifiable which makes them easy to track, and now we know water from the north Pacific can make it into the Med by going through the Arctic.)
@@jasonreed7522 Just a joke-sorry. Crabs are typically very particular about the size of their shells, and they have to be transportable, so though Taiwan makes a lot of electrical gear sold in the US, whatever was in the containers is unlikely to be useful to others. Dozens of containers sitting at the bottom is a significant waste and polluting of the environment there and the reports don’t even discuss this or their actual contents.
Hypothetically, if the containers did not rip off the ship due to improper weight distribution/latch security, would the tilt be enough to capsize the ship? Like would the containers being able to disengage actually help survive a brutal storm?
We always checked this, we got the loading information, and a lot of times it was incorrect and we manually adjust the loading program. Also we used way more lashing bars then I saw in this vid. They even maked a lot of mistakes during loading and we had to correct them. If you allow all these small mistakes it can be very dangerous. Also the pitching is a bad thing to, they should alter course to avoid slamming in the waves. Rolling is better then pitching. 10 to 12 degrees is nothing to be honest, that's easy peasy. 40 45 degrees now that's something.
The 40 foot high cube is used by shippers because that extra foot allows for bulky items that cannot otherwise fit in a standard 40 foot container. Same thing for high cube railroad boxcars.
So, where does the liability lie in a case like this? Is there any liability for the companies that packed their containers heavier than declared? Or is it all on the ship/crew/company?
There are several cargo liability conventions in force but in general shipowners (carriers) are allowed to limit their losses to less than USD 1000/ container. Under US law the package limitation is $500/container. This fundamental aspect of ocean shipping, the right of shipowners to limit liability, dates back to the ancient times.
It must be extremely difficult and complicated to organize thousands of containers by size and weight as they arrive, are stacked, and loaded aboard awaiting vessels.
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