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they're taking optimus prime down a dark path. What's going on guys? RBG here bringing you another update on Transformers Rise of the Beasts. Thanks largely in part to the stealthy leaks and occasional press event we've been able to keep a somewhat constant flow of updates to this upcoming project. A couple weeks ago Hasbro held its first-ever Ignite series for investors to display what is to come in the next couple of years. The event, among other things, saw the reveal of a new poster art for the Transformers Rise of the Beasts movie. And while they did give certain details regarding the premise and the future of the film franchise going forward. They didn't necessarily give us any details pertaining the robot roster. That's something that we're desperately waiting to see in full and until we get that all we can do is sit on our hands and wait and speculate. Something that was provided at the event that aimlessly insuates who'll make it into the movie was this low res promotional art. Which you can kinda make out what it is but due to certain aspects such as the logo you can't really see everything such as the animal avatars that are obviously the Maximals and Predicons. But thanks to a leak on a Russian retailer site called Wildberries, we have a good idea who these characters are. Not only that but we also get our first look at Optimus Prime's CG render for the movie which we're gonna go ahead and analyze first.
So Hasbro is gonna keep him looking the same while adding a few alterations to sell new toys. What I will say is that this picture really isn't indicative of what he'll look throughout the entire movie. As you know its been highly speculated that Optimus Prime will have 2 alt modes. 1 being his classic cabover truck form and a military MAN 8x8 truck form which if true he'll most likely obtain it near the middle or tail end of Transformers Rise of the Beasts. And this model looks very similar to the robot mode we got for that leaked alt mode toy. But if I were to take a wild guess I would say that this is his robot mode after transforming from the cabover truck. Because he has the big metal visor flap over the windshield. But the robot mode for the MAN 8x8 truck form does not. I'm kinda happy that they brought the metal plate over the wind shield back because its very reminiscent of his robot and truck mode from the first 3 Transformers films. There's just something about those parts that make him look how he has armor going along his chest. And it sorta mimicks a collar bone. So yeah, I can't wait to see the full body render of this guy to see other little subtle differences he has to his Bumblebee model.
0:00 Intro
0:17 A Dark Precedent
0:43 Mech Arena
2:12 Optimus Prime's violent histor
3:53 He Shows no Mercy
6:27 Everything feels brutal
7:00 He takes pleasure in killing?
8:46 ROTB Optimus going down Dark Path
10:40 Very Dark Deleted Scene
14:29 Outro
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@RandomBlackGamer 11 месяцев назад

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@GlennKurusu 10 месяцев назад

I want Optimus to be ‘kill and move on,’ like in War For Cybertron as well. “Give me your face,” and “[…] take off his head,” and his lines in AOE and TLK were much. Remove the sadistic lines, and he is awesome.

@awesomeproductions7755 11 месяцев назад

Well, Mirage points out that Earth was really just meant to be a "pit stop" for the Autobots to rally and return to finish the fight on Cybertron, but that plan didn't really go as hoped. Prime blames himself for the Autobots' predicament and hasn't really had much experience with humans like Bee has, hence why he's in in a much more beaten down mood and doesn't really trust humans at first.

@RandomBlackGamer 11 месяцев назад

That's understandable. I still believe that cutting that Transit scene was a good call though.

@awesomeproductions7755 11 месяцев назад

@@RandomBlackGamer I mean, I do wish at least the fight we saw made it in, but I do get why the hologram Transit taunts him with of Autobots being executed and the Hudson River body disposal were cut. That does sound pretty messed up, but I do think the rest of the scene could've still stayed in the film and worked.

@matthewcoster5535 11 месяцев назад

@@RandomBlackGamer Prime also stated in the deleted scene that he believed the Humans would hunt down his comrades if they were exposed. Not an unfounded belief since human soldiers were hunting for Bumblebee and tried to kill him more than once.

@VoltBolt1984 11 месяцев назад

@@RandomBlackGamerI agree with that. Though I think that, having that be the opening would not have done well for the film. It would make more sense to have put that scene before Prime saw the beacon so we can get that sense of desperation that he had. Since we now know he’s spent 7 looking for a way back to Cybertron I think there has to be a way to show that desperation in a natural way.

@toukendanshiwarrior2846 11 месяцев назад

@@matthewcoster5535 What deleted scene? Which one?

@samurexatlas7373 11 месяцев назад

I feel like, for Transit, if instead of more cons being dead, Prime visibly got saddened, and dragged Transit to the Hudson without the extra bodies. That could show Prime doesn't like his violent side, but feels it necessary. That could also tie into how Prime has to learn to be kinder to humanity.

@The_Barroth 11 месяцев назад

That could’ve worked a bit better The body pile is cool and all but it’s more of a bayverse prime thing

@TheRogueCommand 11 месяцев назад

I give the Transit fight a little grace because Prime is killing out of necessity; if Transit and the other decepticons had lived, they could have reported back and revealed where Prime and his team were hiding. There's less than a dozen autobots on Earth, so they're not in a position to face down a full armada. But I agree, if they'd shown Prime a little remorseful that he had to take a life, it would have worked much better. Like after he takes the shot, he pauses and taps his forehead against Transit's and says "Your fight is done...rest now,"

@shauntempley9757 10 месяцев назад

@@TheRogueCommand That would not work with Megatron still off world. If Prime was brutal in that scene, it is because Megatron is totally worse. So awful, that he would make Scourge look amateurish. One whiff of Prime being on Earth getting to Megatron, he would sweep in with full force and crush anyone that got in his way, and he would not care with any human. He would make the Chicago massacre look like a cake walk. It is bad enough Megatron knows Prime is alive, and we knew that in Bumblebee, since the three Decepticons were all following his orders. He has most likely killed entire planets full of species far more advanced than humans looking for Prime in the mean time as he came across them.

@chadking375 11 месяцев назад

I still find it interesting that Armada Optimus is pretty much the template for live action Optimus. A seemingly kind and benevolent alien is actually a rage-filled berserker who loves war.

@TheMainVictor 11 месяцев назад

I think having a balance of Prime being able to do what he needs to do but also still being stoic and not relishing in the killing of his enemies is something that should be kept, as TFP strikes that tone of having a more realistic Optimus but still having him be that inspiration is key and giving his fellow autobots advice to be better than their enemies.

@AngryPilot64 11 месяцев назад

I like Prime having a monstrous side. Gentle yet able to be savage when necessary. That’s a hard line to walk for a million year combat vet

@BlazerK1914 11 месяцев назад

G1 Optimus: “Be merciful.” Bay Optimus: “I will destroy Decepticons! AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!”

@NBE-01_EDITZZ 11 месяцев назад

Bay prime “I’ll give my life for the humans we cannot let them pay for mistakes “

@jayc6894 11 месяцев назад

@@NBE-01_EDITZZ Bay prime "i'll kill you >:("

@goofyman 11 месяцев назад

G1 Optimus a cartoon for kids. Bay Optimus an action hero for young adults

@Kaiju-bm4ts 11 месяцев назад

@@goofyman buddy literally EVERYONE of all ages watched the bayverse movies lol, not just young adults. Any optimus is for all people of all ages period. That's like saying batman is for adults when batman is advertised equally towards adults and kids alike. I don't recall the original teen titans cartoon being kids, let's count how many 90s and early 2000s shows were "for kids" but showed content too dark to be intended for kids. Larry cullen was in the Vietnam War and wanted optimus to be a proper war general, not a Hollywood hero. Every optimus incarnation followed Larry's words to a T. Bayverse just went out of character meanwhile rotb handled him better while still making him violent

@proxywolf2006 10 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4tstransformers came out in the 1980s which at the time for cartoons were very strict on violence and deaths hence why the 2d movie so high on it

@themilkman4727 11 месяцев назад

In primes defense when killing the fallen, the fallen was responsible for all those deaths of primes in the past and I could definitely see it being personal for prime (especially considering he was JUST brought back to life and the last time he hesitated he got shot and in the back by megatron)

@TheObsedianEmperor 11 месяцев назад

Still out of character

@grand_max66 10 месяцев назад

Yeah but he didn't know that. He says so near the beginning of the movie that the history is unknown, which then begs the question why he killed the 1 Decepticon that seemed to have information on it and never offered an alternative.

@proxywolf2006 10 месяцев назад

@@grand_max66but then how did prime know about his brothers then during the fight. Also what alternative, he was gonna blow up the sun dude, there was no alternative

@grand_max66 10 месяцев назад

@@proxywolf2006 He knew at the end cause the Bay sequels had terrible writing that's why. And the alternative was talking about Demolishor. But for the Fallen an easy alternative is to just not rip off his face and crush his spark in front of him like an insane killer.

@proxywolf2006 10 месяцев назад

@@grand_max66 well hold on how would you know if prime had not known of other primes considering he is one, it's not like he was the only one back on cybertron. Also what other alternative would there have been for demolisher, there would literally be no way of capturing him and I doubt he'd just let himself be captured effortlessly

@tavinprice2310 11 месяцев назад

Well, I think what they do well with the new movie is give him a purpose for his aggression. Especially when after Scourge kills bumblebee, I totally see why he'd be pissed I also hope that they rewrite and reuse the transit scene for a sequel

@drewt7602 11 месяцев назад

dude facts he literally didnt do anything "this cant be" doesnt sound like optimus seeing bee die at all.

@goofyman 11 месяцев назад

The same can be said about Bayverse Prime. he has seen his fellow Autobots get killed, so his aggression is justified.

@Kaiju-bm4ts 11 месяцев назад

@@goofyman name a single time ANY character in the bay movies acknowledged optimus's change in behavior or increase in anger cause most of his actions weren't justified if they weren't acknowledged by the characters or the plot. Saying "oh he lost so many friends" is just fans putting in their own interpretations to fill in the blinks the bayverse time and time again refused to fill in with it's plot holes, inconsistent lore and bad writing for most of it's characters. Rotb established earth was meant to be nothing more than a temporary stop for the autobots and now prime is stuck there, this explains why optimus acts the way he does and scourge killing bee doesn't make things better. THAT is an example of a plot acknowledging optimus's personality and establishing it. TF1 establishes optimus's personality well but suddenly he becomes more aggressive in the sequels with zero explanation or acknowledgement. How come fan made stop motions and animations do this 1 detail better than the bayverse films do?. Rotb prime is everything bayverse prime tried to be but with a ACTUAL explanation behind his actions.

@goofyman 11 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4ts Bro wrote another essay. Why are you coming after me? I ain't reading all that I just voiced my opinion. ROTB is a shitty movie with a lame plot and cartoonish CGI. Bayverse Prime is awesome and badass.

@Kaiju-bm4ts 11 месяцев назад

@@goofyman buddy what you call a "essay" is facts from a fan that knows more about this franchise than you do and cares more about quality instead of just seeing robots kill each other. Bayverse prime is only awesome to you cause you don't understand what makes optimus prime, optimus prime. Not a shocker if you only pay attention to the action and so little of the plot (then again the bay movies have no plots) Typical bayfanatics, ignoring the fact the bayverse is the most controversial TF media for a reason 🙄, why must kids like you embarrass bayverse fans that grew up and want better quality and representation for this franchise?

@michaelbenitez539 11 месяцев назад

There's one thing you forgot to mention that might shed light on Optimus's mind in ROTB, apparently Transit was going to show a hologram of him executing Autobot's who claimed that Optimus would return, I think this kind of justifies Optimus killing Transit and dumping his body, Optimus is killing for revenge of his fallen comrades and he's trying to hide evidence of The existence of Cybertronians on Earth so the military won't hunt them down

@ZeEmperor 11 месяцев назад

Let’s just hope that what Optimus did to Scourge is as far as they’re willing to go. But, we’ll have to see, won’t we?

@SpaceMarineLoyalist 11 месяцев назад

I actually like a darker optimus prime but i like darker characters in general tho lol. Also optimus becoming darker over time or just in general is interesting to me, since he's been fighting for so long (at least from a human perspective) and we dont really know at least to my knowledge on how transformers age mentally

@Soundwave413 11 месяцев назад

You summed it up perfectly, The problem with bayverse prime is not that he kills decpeticons or even humans, evil is evil, the problem is that he always goes out of his way to make the executions seem like their from a mortal kombat game when more practical/simple options are available(Transit could have been a bargaining chip, or potentially have intelligence for the war was going elsewhere), plus the fact that killing keeps being his go to option instead of thinking rationally DOTM summed it up where prime seemed to prioritize killing the decepticons in Chicago rather then taking the city itself back and saving innocents, or killing Megatron when he extended an olive branch to him. He acts more like a black ops mercenary (ironic since Lockdown was more tame in comparison just focusing on the job and getting everything over with) instead of a herioc leader with rational thought and stable mind yet is still treated as a high and mighty savior talking about friendship.

@toukendanshiwarrior2846 11 месяцев назад

What else is Optimus going to do with an enemy?

@grand_max66 10 месяцев назад

@@toukendanshiwarrior2846Just... shoot them? Like every other incarnation ever. You don't need to skin them alive and then punch and crush their heart out in-front of them to do that. That's some evil shit Megatron would have done.

@toukendanshiwarrior2846 10 месяцев назад

@@grand_max66 That's not what I meant.

@ravicmegandr146 11 месяцев назад

One of my favorite scenes in rotb is when Primal is talking to Air Razor bout how “he’s not the Optimus Prime I imagined” tbh I thought that was a reference to the director acknowledging how dark bayverse Optimus was and wanting to avoid that, I felt like that movie was almost a way of Optimus realizing he’s not the stoic, compassionate leader he’s used to. If ima be honest rotb was up against across the spiderverse to which ik the ladder was gonna make more money but considering how Hollywood movies were starting to struggle leading to the eventual strike I just think the movie had bad luck when coming out since everyone agreed the movie IS good so I’m hoping this doesn’t discourage future movie.

@drewt7602 11 месяцев назад

i genuinely don't mind optimus being more brutal just off the fact that he's lost his home world to the guy he used to call his brother, he's lost 10,000's of friends and family fighting this war that he never wanted in the first place and now hes the only prime left and everyone's looking up to him and hes managed to get them stranded on a planet that could be hostile and get the rest of them killed. i think it would be a breath of fresh air to see optimus fully let go of his morales while fighting hand to hand with deceptions maybe rc gets hit and hes not ready to lose another friend (since he literally sat there and did nothing when scourge killed bee infront of him) and is set into a rage by it be coming a true prime. it would jsut be nice to have for one movie where he gives his dope ass speech then goes full viking mode. but hey thats just an opinion. me personally if the dude who destroyed my planet and killed my friends was running his mouth im pulling a DOTM optimus on the bridge type shit on him. loved the vid, great content as usual.

@HenryLouis21 11 месяцев назад

Here is a thing though, even if Optimus has lost so much to this war, he would still prevail and let nothing change who he is and having him be brutal goes against what this character stands for

@NBE-01_EDITZZ 11 месяцев назад

@@HenryLouis21well unfortunately the general audience love and look up to Optimus for being brutal, it’s only the hardcore fans who don’t like it so we’re gunna get more of bloodthirsty prime since that’s what sells tickets

@HenryLouis21 11 месяцев назад

@@NBE-01_EDITZZ who the hell in the general audience looks up to Optimus being a murderous psychopath. Because being a murderous maniac is not some aspirational ideal to aspire to me just like you are not supposed to aspire to be someone like The Joker or Patrick Bateman. Also, since when did people go to the cinemas to watch Optimus lay waste to his enemies like a goddamn lunatic? That is not what is selling tickets.

@NBE-01_EDITZZ 11 месяцев назад

@@HenryLouis21 I don’t mean literally look up to him, the action and brutal tone of the bayverse is why so many people prefer that verse and it’s what made those movies so popular, the most popular scenes involve Optimus being a psychopath why? Because that’s what people love no hold barred action it’s what keeps people going back to those movies !

@gerbbabycare3771 11 месяцев назад

I think in ROTB it feels more natural than the Bay movies. He's responsible for the Autobots being stuck in the first place. If he didn't send Bee to earth, he never would've died, and that's clear in his hate for Scourge. He's opposed to humans getting involved because he knows they'll hunt them and the bots were never meant to integrate to begin with. He's cool with Bee's own experiences vut he doesn't want to take the chance, with makes sense for his arc. He never felt hostile, just annoyed and exasperated.

@TheJthunder45 11 месяцев назад

A few notes. Though the Transit scene has him being aggressive, 7 years is a long ass time especially when you're desperate to go back to a war to save your home. By the end of '07 Optimus has accepted Earth as his new home. He's not there yet until the end of this movie so thats fair. Prime feels like he abandoned Cybertron, and Transit throwing that in his face doesnt help. In the final cut we truly don't see Prime become "aggressive" until after Bee's death so that sent him over the edge. Plus again, by the end of this movie it seems he has accepted that Earth is more than just a pit stop and is willing to protect it. His smile at the end toward Noah, I feel, is a sign that he has reached some sort of peace within himself and with humanity. I don't think by the time you reach the end of ROTB you feel he is headed toward a dark place but a more optimistic one. To me ROTB was a final goodbye to psycho Prime lol.

@Bushybrow000 10 месяцев назад

Blackout/Grindor mixup is pretty reasonable. We saw Blackout destroyed in the first movie, but Grindor looking exactly like him in the 2nd movie. Bayverse Optimus is definitely more Realistic. He's a soldier in constant war and war changes a person if you’re in it long enough.

@Realist.exe. 11 месяцев назад

7 years is a very long time when you're constantly reminded you aren't home, I have a feeling they are trying to make an alternative future with him where he has to choose between Nemesis and himself. Because I can only hear Nemesis Prime in his ”Take off his head” statement.

@spider-man500 11 месяцев назад

Optimus is 2007: *Isn't aggressive* G1 fans: "Make him more aggressive!" Optimus 2009 and onwards: *Is agressive* G1 fans: "He's too agressive!" For fuck sake guys what wre you asking for at this point?

@danielmedela8725 11 месяцев назад

I never asked for him to be more aggressive, and I got a psycho now. Again. Make Optimus a Hero again.

@AutobotSimmer 11 месяцев назад

Yup, they'll never get the balance right with how different fans see OP.

@freeamericanthinker558 11 месяцев назад

Right?

@danielmedela8725 11 месяцев назад

@@AutobotSimmer Yeah, Hasbro succeeded in dividing the TF Fanbase harder than Kathleen Kennedy...

@AutobotSimmer 11 месяцев назад

@@danielmedela8725 the fans divide themselves with "this is the "correct" way to think about __." How OP should be, how fights should go, human involvement, designs, alt modes. At this point everything in the franchise. Including why RoTB failed. All ends up being G1 vs everything else.

@mr.gamer1010 11 месяцев назад

rotb prime has many reasons to be mad unlike bayverse prime he has anger issues rotb prime lost his home and blame himself that they're stuck in planet earth and bumblebee death just like mirage said "he just misses home"

@joslyncarter4813 11 месяцев назад

Well....I don't think Optimus enjoyed killing his enemies, but was desperate to end the threat that they were. He would be dangerously frustrated. Why leave an enemy behind for them to rise once again and continue to be a threat?

@AutobotSimmer 11 месяцев назад

Right.

@Br0wnieMuZic06 11 месяцев назад

For example Megatron, I seem to see him get really pissed off like Why won't you stay dead?! Now I know why Optimus was angry towards Megatron cause he kept coming back from the dead somehow.

@cui8789 11 месяцев назад

I don't think Optimus killed Demolishor just for saying something he didn't like. It seemed just a case of him killing a Decepticon that wasn't going to give them any further information and whose continued existence would blow the Autobots' cover, the maintenance of which their asylum on Earth depended. Rise of the Beasts does seem critical of Optimus's dark approach. So was Age of Extinction.

@Kaiju-bm4ts 11 месяцев назад

Dude that's why you take someone like demolishor as a PRISONER, you have any idea how many Americans or Japanese or nazis or Russians were taken as prisoners of war regardless if they had any info to spill or not?. Optimus killing demolishor for no reason is a war crime, he wasn't fighting back, he was incapable of fighting any longer, the autobots could of kept him as a prisoner and only kill him if he attacked anyone.

@shauntempley9757 10 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4ts That does not work with the Decepticons. For every captive prisoner of their faction, they would destroy entire cities to free them. They are not just a faction of a civil war. They are a faction that will torture any Autobot they find, and slaughter anyone around them that is not Cybertronian or Autobot, whether they are fighting them, or not. Prime and the Autobots all know this. They tried that tactic on Cybertron, and it went brutally badly very quickly.

@Kaiju-bm4ts 10 месяцев назад

@@shauntempley9757 this DOES work for decepticons, they don't just slaughter just to get one of their own back, when megatron heard breakdown was captured by mech in tf prime, did he save him? No he didn't. When starscream was captured, did megatron save him? No he didn't. They don't always kill and ask questions later. The decepticons ARE a faction of war, otherwise it wouldn't be a war period. A war needs factions to be one with both sides fighting for opposite or the same goals. In this case, both cons and bots want peace but through different means.

@shauntempley9757 10 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4ts The war was caused by how bad the Primes were when in charge, if you go by IDW's comics. It is here that we get the most vicious Megatron, and the most vicious Decepticons. This scene may be hinting that this film is taking IDW's lore into its canon, since Optimus was often even more brutal than in this scene. The Decepticon cause in IDW was about the extermination of all Primes. They started out as a terrorist movement. The Autobot cause in IDW was about choosing the Primes from better candidates, and forcing the current Primes into retirement. They started out as a resistance movement. Both about overthrowing the current Primes, but by different means, and they did work together initially. It meant that the Decepticons would brutally turn on the Autobots once Prime appeared.

@proxywolf2006 10 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4tss so how would that big ass decepticon be taken as a prisoner?

@Crypteral08 11 месяцев назад

I kinda have an explanation on why Optimus is this way in the reboot In Bumblebee the military was hunting him down with Decepticons and killed him temporarily so Bumblebee probably told Optimus what happened and how humans are hostile and selfish so Optimus doesn't want that to happen again so he hides from all of them all of them Optimus was very aggressive towards Scourge because Scourge killed Bumblebee and harmed the other Autobots like Mirage and Scourge was mocking him and making fun of Optimus from the very start I think Optimus is very Bayverse-like towards Transit because he needs his ship to get back to cybertron and see if the Decepticons are there and if the other Autobots like Ironhide, Ratchet, and Brawn are ok and he his hunting him down because he doesn't want Transit to know that there are other Autobots there and where they are

@jamcalx 11 месяцев назад

They effectively tarnished him with the most of all the brutal edgy oneliners. I don't mind if Optimus gets more decisive and less hesitant to spill oil when he's in "cornered tiger" position and innocent lives are on the line, but he should still be able to rinse off clean. Think like a good king or heroic champion stepping off the battlefield to wash off the blood and soil and try to recenter themselves while always worrying if they are making the right decision, even though his companions, subordinates, and the people fully support and praise his efforts. Optimus is much in common with Captain America and they need to preserve that.

@zparda6678 11 месяцев назад

I try to just enjoy every TF movie cause we'll never truly get a perfect movie for TF sad but it is what it is also RBG love your content and i agree that Jazz really deserves to come back deadass my favorite bot from the 2007 TF and his death had me just question everything

@NICK349B 11 месяцев назад

Optimus Prime in 07 got absolutely bitched by Megatron💀

@waynenation4875 11 месяцев назад

I like bayverse Prime and yeah i can understand why fans would think he's too aggressive but you got to see it from his point of view. 2007 the allspark that could of revived thier home was destroyed. Then in transformers 2 he died and the fallen was going to destroy the planet and the humans didn't trust Optimus or the Autobots. Transformers 3 Sentinel Optimus Mentor/ Father figure betrays him and kills ironHide and almost made Humans into slaves and Transformers 4 Humans are hunting down and killing his Autobots his family. Finally in TF5 he gets Mind Controlled. Im sure Optimus didn't want to have to kill the Decepticons but after everything he's been through i can see why he became more Aggressive if anything he seems a little more Human than most other versions of prime. Because im not saying all but i can see some humans doing what he would do.

@danielmedela8725 11 месяцев назад

No, I am pretty sure he was already a psycho. He never mourned Jazz´s death, and what he did to Demolisher was brutal and unnecessary, specially if the future of his species is at risk. Script bent over backwards to make it work, but he was already that. The character arc he had is embracing his own bloodlust.

@simonlin9192 11 месяцев назад

He did mourn though

@danielmedela8725 11 месяцев назад

@@simonlin9192 If you call mourning "they killed Ratchet! I´ll kill them for it!", then yeah, I guess he did. I can´t recall him doing anything else.

@toukendanshiwarrior2846 11 месяцев назад

Removing the Transit scene removes the reason why Optimus is angry (which leaves Mirage explaining it to Noah later on) and for the audience to understand Optimus's frustration. You believe it's the right call to remove that dark scene, but, what else is Optimus going to do (watch reaction videos like Comodin Cam or videos recording the deleted scenes and have open comment sections to read people's opinions)? He needs to hide the evidence. The corpses are there because they won't stop hunting them down until they're dead with Optimus killing them each time. Optimus gave Transit two chances to surrender. Also, you didn't mention Transit taunting Optimus of him executing Autobots, which justifies his death. This is where he begins his given character arc, learning to trust humans and growing as a robot.

@geethamadhuri4.033 11 месяцев назад

Love you optimus nemesis prime 🔥 .!

@Drom_0 11 месяцев назад

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@basicbloke5733 11 месяцев назад

When Optimus says “give me your face” I’m pretty sure it’s symbolic of Optimus putting The Fallen in his face as he’s wearing the face of a prime despite not being one

@Burrito_Bandito0000 11 месяцев назад

Im glad, I loved bayverse optimus, and I hope they keep going down that path

@mrdude88 11 месяцев назад

Transformer 2 probably have the most gangster Optimus Prime we ever gotten. That guy was about die or get kill without mercy.

@CIorox_BIeach 11 месяцев назад

G1 Optimus after being revived: And this time, no force in the universe can stop me. I think you only have to kill Prime once to get that man pissed off.

@A-0-K-GAMER 11 месяцев назад

Bayverse Optimus: good for what they did to elita let them suffer

@captaincrusader9469 11 месяцев назад

Interesting video. Though is understandable that Prime would be mad at Scourge for killing Bee, I still think that the movie went too far with that. Is true that is more realistic for someone to feel that kind of rage in war (for both live action Primes), but the big quesiton is: is it ok to follow those vegenful desires? And the answer is no. I don`t know how accurate is this what I'm going to say, but remember that in transformers armada, after Prime's death Hot Shot wanted revenge and then Optimus' spirit (or an illusion, or a memory, I don`t know) told him that the true goal of the autobots wasn´t destroy the decepticons but to protect the minicons. Bayverse Prime might've been a psycho, but that scene in 07 where he talked about sacrificing himself to avoid Megatron getting the Allspark reflected the true escence of the character, and I'm sure that in ROTF when Fallen said "Die, like your brothers", Optimus replied that they were his brothers too, but it seems that such reply was cut. And then we had ROTB Prime that hated us for no reason. Something that makes characters like Optimus valuable is that they inspire us to be better. Even Larry Cullen, Peter Cullen's brother, said to him: "Peter, if you’re gonna be a hero, be a real hero… be strong enough to be gentle, be humble, be courageous" That's Optimus Prime

@GalvatronStudios 11 месяцев назад

Plot twist: Bayverse is secretly Shattered Glass

@animemangathoughts8247 11 месяцев назад

I must admit, this version of Optimus Prime is a bit of confusion because I watch the Unicron Trilogy shows such as Energon & Cybertron and that version of Optimus was more gentle & kind. So I thought he will be like that in the first film, but he got aggressive little bit, he character was a bit out of place off what he supposed to be as a beacon hope & optimism. And that made me confused even more as the movie progressive as well the following film sequels. However in Transformers Prime, he character in that show is similar to the Bay movies, but the only difference that he has something that is completely human which is remorseful & sympathise. Now that a version of Optimus I kinda like and he doesn’t want to kill any Decepticons as well Megatron unless if they are threatening humanity or stilling human technology.

@thatchild4522 11 месяцев назад

Revenge of the fallen had the deceptions looking for the shard of the cube. Optimus has every reason to kill the deceptions as they are very much trying to kill him and the entire human race

@F7PRO37 11 месяцев назад

2007 optimus was holding back in my opinion because the whole fight he did with megatron he never pulled the energon swords out.

@dylanshaw4713 11 месяцев назад

When I was a kid watching transformers 2, I thought Optimus said "you sealed your fate" instead of "give me your face".

@berserkerjeanne7563 11 месяцев назад

Legit that would have been better

@arionofotherworld 11 месяцев назад

I miss Primes compassion, he was always meant to be a skilled warrior, but he always considered mercy to a clearly beaten foe.

@trembal1941 11 месяцев назад

I love the dark prime. He’s just more intriguing and more bad ass that way.

@goofyman 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, this nibba is tripping Bayverse Prime is awesome. ROTB is a flop movie

@Kaiju-bm4ts 11 месяцев назад

@@goofyman how is he tripping when he's speaking facts? Even Peter cullen criticized how overly violent optimus is in the bayverse. Btw tf5 was a even bigger flop and the bayverse ain't coming back from that meanwhile hasbro still wants to make a sequel to rotb but will wait after the strike is over. Learn the difference between a flop and a underperformance. On top of that, learn what war is cause war solider don't act like bayverse optimus and go mortal kombat on everything that moves. War crimes exist for a reason buddy. Even Peter's own brother was in the Vietnam War

@goofyman 11 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4ts War crimes?? Transformers is an fictional action movie franchise, nobody cares about War crimes buddy. We went to the theatre to see the robots killing each other, not Optimus giving a lecture about friendship and love. The Legend Peter Cullen gave his opinion, but the director knows what is best for the movie and plot. Peter Cullen voiced optimus in G1 Transformers, which is a cartoon made for kids.

@Kaiju-bm4ts 11 месяцев назад

@@goofyman and this ladies and gentlemen is how you separate fans that know what war is/care about this franchise from the normies that likely don't know what war is and just watch TF with little to no knowledge of the franchise. If you're the latter idk why you're talking 🤣. Watch the 1986 g1 transformers movie and tell me that movie is for kids when most of the characters from s1 and s2 die. This franchise is for people of all ages and has gotten dark on multiple occasions. (Tf prime and beast wars being good examples) The franchise is about war and establishes these characters as human like but war crimes suddenly don't exist because they're "fictional"? That doesn't stop real laws, logic or just common sense from being present at times in fiction. Michael bay wasn't a fan and didn't like TF that much from the start and it should be common sense to not put someone who hates said IP to direct anything relating to said IP. Not all directors make smart decisions or are good directors period, they don't "always know what's best" when producers have more authority over them 😅

@goofyman 11 месяцев назад

@@Kaiju-bm4ts Lmao, Bro wrote an essay. What the F are you talking about? I know Michael Bay is a fiing moron, but he made Transformers more popular with his movies, no denying that. Even the Forrest battle scene in Rotf is better than the whole Transformers Rise of the Best Movie.

@kbleighshorts7347 11 месяцев назад

Who else wants a transformers movie where it is placed on cybertron. Where it goes through the start and struggles for citizens during these times.andhow hard it was for the autobots. And most importantly no humans saving the day.

@GabrielIgnacio 10 месяцев назад

Sounds like Transformers One will be up your alley whenever that comes out next year, albeit that one is animated and not live action.

@jvbutalid8316 10 месяцев назад

"Bayverse Optimus is bound to go war-crazy and aggressive thanks to the long Great War" but here's also the thing: the fact that the Great War happened for so long meant that the Autobots and Decepticons are bound to be calmer and level-headed as they get used to the fighting. That's probably why G1 Optimus is so chill most of the time, and that's probably why FOC Optimus is even able to just order the Decepticons to leave despite that the Autobots clearly were on the verge of ultimate victory when Megatron died to Metroplex.

@ahri6817 10 месяцев назад

I personally saw the movie as a way of showing why Optimus is going to end up much kinder and less violent. Like, Primal and Noah seemed to be teaching Optimus the value of being merciful that whole movie

@michaelarmstrong9722 11 месяцев назад

I wish this transformers universe was as violent as bay films. Tbh bay films were my childhood as well, but hopefully we will see that in the future.

@jasonhimle7336 10 месяцев назад

With the addition of unicorn they can bring in nemesis prime but that means they would have to use the animated movie as a baseline for the story

@AutobotSimmer 11 месяцев назад

The problem is simple; the argument is he must be just like G1 though G1 wasn't as in depth compared to media since 2000. The argument is it's enough. So with Demolisher, "proper" OP is supposed to let him go even if the con is deliberately destroying the city. Same with the other enemies BUT the balance is still not there. Like "give me your face" and even rip the face off rather than shot in the spark. Mono e had a problem with Lockdown being sliced in half. "Take off his head".... I'm mixed about that even though I know the argument. The out of character to me is yeah Scourge has to die, but the way OP kills Scourge and "this looks like the perfect planet to bury you on." With how the fans are divided, I don't think we'll ever be able to say the balance is right, but I'm saying to me it's still not there. I mean everything in RoTB is considered fine to most fans but Bayverse is a psycho. I feel like it's become as long as he's in his G1 design. I don't think how OP is contributed to RoTB not being a success. Otherwise after RoTF, the movies should have done poorly. Nor does it have to do with how Bayverse has been a success other TLK would be a success. Like I said they need to figure out the balance but with fans arguing needs to be just like G1, liking Bayverse OP and falling in-between the two sides.... just something else that fans will argue about no matter what is done. Just like what we could argue why RiTB didn't do great. So far seems the sequel will happen as soon as writers are done striking which oh boy....there goes my theory that they know they'd be pissing many fans off. Well at least to me it seems they've yet to say officially prequel or not. It's back and forth and fans decide what's being said based on the love/ hatred of Bayverse. I say do like MCU but learn from the mistakes. I don't bother with MCU but I've been told of 2 major flaws.

@renereissig-hochweller3228 11 месяцев назад

I at least Hope we get Transit as a studio series voyager because he looks so cool and makes the job of bus driver cooler in my opinion and I think an action figure is the least this guy deserves

@corneliuswright9680 10 месяцев назад

I think prime has every right to say what he does u gotta think there are not that many auto bots left. They destroyed his planet and all the ones he knows so yeah he's on fire in other words pissed no mercy.

@Megatron_95 11 месяцев назад

I can kinda understand why Prime would go savage on Scourge after he believed he lost Bumblebee. But i will not lie, Prime is getting the Superman treat. Where people think that to make said character interesting is to make them dark.

@LuminousPrime 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, Optimus has been a lot more of an action hero type ever since the movies, but now we have a new hope in his portrayal in the Skybound comics!!! It's the best showing of Optimus since the 80s!!!

@grand_max66 10 месяцев назад

Honestly I think the best short explanation I've seen form people explaining why they don't like ROTF/DOTM Optimus but enjoy other more violent takes like 07, ROTB, Marvel or Armada Optimus is that "07/ROTB Optimus is violent, and that's fine. ROTF/DOTM Prime is edgy to be edgy, and that's cringe".

@shealupkes 10 месяцев назад

I'm cool with optimus snapping at the end of the movie and showing us the vicious war machine he was rebuilt to be is fine but one of peter's inspirations was being told to "be strong enough to be gentle" and the optimus prime we've seen since 2011 hasn't been

@Brushed_Ranger 11 месяцев назад

This is a younger optimus don't forget hes still learning and thats the whole point of his little character arc in the film he's on his way to being the great leader of the autobots but as of bee and beasts he's just a leader of a rag tag freedom fighter movement they aren't militarized like the decepticons but by the end of the trilogy we will have our optimus prime with a great 3 movie character arc with learning to open up to humans and helping them as much as they have helped him He wants to keep his autobots safe I hate how people aren't really giving this a chance Everyone just wants to skip to the end of his character arc and have him start off that way but that making him really bland imo when optimus is the comics and shows is way more nuanced then that

@noahwilliams8996 10 месяцев назад

Just one thing: Optimus didn't kill demolisher "because of what he said". Optimus started that conversation with "Any last words?"

@deadracreeperlord 11 месяцев назад

I hear grindor saying :get off me

@M567dk 11 месяцев назад

He died in the first Transformers animated movie and gone down a darker path in these live action films. Makes me wonder if we will ever get an actual G1 Optimus Prime without the darker intention.

@thatchild4522 11 месяцев назад

Well, that was also part of the show. A show where they can’t kill off the enemy for marketing

@parkerpshebnisky1051 10 месяцев назад

Bay-verse prime is my fav version!

@dadon2aw 10 месяцев назад

I think if you were away from your home for 8yrs against your will, you would be a little jaded as well

@animallover1404 10 месяцев назад

I don't see how people think it's a "real" approach for Optimus Prime becoming blood-thirsty in the live-action films. There are plenty of people in "reality" who have not broke or shattered their beliefs and morals in and out of war and mostly some we will never know about. Really, the person that comes to mind on how Optimus Prime is supposed to be and is very much alike (granted Optimus does fight back and kill if he has to. Key words, "Has to") is the great "Desmond Thomas Doss" (R.I.P.) Optimus Prime is supposed to be a pacifist or fights because he has too. When when he hurts someone, in reality, he is hurting himself. Not only that but keep in mind in all incarnations of him, he is 9-Million-Years Old (realistically he's older because he was Orion Paxe first but I digress). Never once did he snap or lose all the factors that make him the legendary and great Optimus Prime. He never snapped on Megatron like that in G1 when he had the opportunity to kill him. He could have ended him then and there when he grabbed his Ion Blaster but didn't. If Hot Rod did not interfere Megatron would have meet his fate in self-defense from Optimus, who didn't want it to go that way. TF PRIME Optimus is also the same. The Junior Novel or Revenge of the Fallen and the PS2 game show how Optimus Prime is supposed to be when in combat. He is very much supposed to be different from the other Primes that came before him and he is but not in the live-action movies or at least the Michael Bay films. Bumblebee is the closest he has been to himself in live-action format. Other than nostalgia, seeing a different take of Optimus like this is somewhat fine, given it's a different variant but we need that hero how he is supposed to be. Optimus Prime is awesome and violence is not the main reason why he is.

@tsv1929 10 месяцев назад

I would love to get a bayverse prime attitude for this prime, I love the bay movies ( other then age of Extinction) so seeing optimus be like that in these new movies would be awesome but I also would like to see a more G1 kind hearted optimus as well

@pccc5431 7 месяцев назад

5:57 oh shit....I heard that, I actually heard him say the "please NOOOOoOOooo!!"

@JBDNFT 11 месяцев назад

This man feels for demolisher, and grinder like they would ever feel bad for you, y'all people and y'all opinion its sooo funny hearing shit like this

@RandomBlackGamer 11 месяцев назад

Glad I could get a chuckle from you

@soundwave3977 11 месяцев назад

I was just searching for this on twitter after I saw some test screening for the earthspark show so prime is evil in the show at the end?

@ToneWithTony 11 месяцев назад

I hate how they keep treating Optimus Prime like he needs constant help it's annoying he was holding his own in the bumble bee movie i was kinda hoping for that again but nooo they had a human yet again to help him and i just want the actual transformers that name implies just them and not with humans it takes away from them big time when the humans are on screen than the robots

@jurassicformers5905 11 месяцев назад

To be fair Optimus gave transit multiple chances to surrender and give up the ship

@Bushybrow000 10 месяцев назад

Maybe we'll get Nemesis Prime proper if Optimus is becoming "dark"

@blueraccoon1088 11 месяцев назад

4:24 that does make sense I'm no war vet or soldier but i know the phrase, never shoot the messenger but let's be on point the cons were assigned to finding the matrix anyone remember seeing that in ROTF ps2/wii game?

@skeletor4436 11 месяцев назад

Honestly i think the main reason the movie is a dissappintment in box office is because of when it released. The movie released around the same time as Spider verse, Indiana Jones, and the Flash . Those are 3 big names that the movie had to go against

@bryanmccracken3105 10 месяцев назад

Well, if anyone grew up watching the cartoon, you'd want a more aggressive Prime. The Autobots were always getting their cans handed to them, until Star Scream tried to double cross Megatron, then the Autobots would prevail. What we NEED, is a few back story movies. Like WHY the war on Cybertron happened. WHO were the 1st Primes? Optimus called Megatron brother at one point, were they really? Or just in the sense of belonging to the same species of bots?

@soulsnatcher5408 10 месяцев назад

They're taking him down a dark path? He's already been down it, considering this movie is in the past. Taking him down a dark path. They would have to do it in a present tense movie.

@RandomBlackGamer 10 месяцев назад

It's a new continuity

@jom5294 10 месяцев назад

Fam if you forced to leave your house .. you might be little pissed too! 😂😂 Iv been a transformer head since the beginning. I actually like the Grumpy Optimus, but I still wanna see the Mighty Megatron!! And I hope he shows up and shows out ✊🏿

@IMZ44 11 месяцев назад

Optimus Primal felt more like G1 Optimus.

@vaundada 10 месяцев назад

That was the jetfire in prime wen he killed the fallen😂😂😂

@benjamingomez1761 10 месяцев назад

I think that the movies desperately need a scene of Optimus actively saving people, imagine a scene where Decepticons attack a city and Prime actively goes out of his way, grabbing civilians and taking hits to protect, give him lines like in TFP when he says that maybe Fowler can tolerate human casualties, but he can't, or in Animated where his group is undisciplined and he yells at them to then grow and apologizes, or in Cyberverse where he actively pursues diplomacy and has spent so much time being a leader that he doesn't know how to have fun anymore, making him three-dimensional, Prime can be imperfect and make mistakes, but there is a reason why both Peter Cullen and Gary Chalk don't like Bay Optimus, because its a disgusting take on a character that glorifies violence and lack of empathy and a backbone to stand up for what is right even when you lose a lot, there are firefighters, nurses, doctors, rescuers, and a lor of people who dedicate their lives to save others risking themselves, and that is more real than any trash take on Optimus

@UnrealNeoBat 10 месяцев назад

I'm getting this feeling fans will get tired of murder Prime not different than hating on evil Superman.

@normanwells5726 11 месяцев назад

I’m all fairness he did give them a chance to do better but they made their choice. Prime catching bodies makes a better story

@WompWompSoSad00 11 месяцев назад

What if in this new reboot, optimus becomes so violent and sinister and becomes nemesis prime

@blueraccoon1088 11 месяцев назад

6:05 i heard that the 10th time seeing this still scares me hearing that

@Hxmp67 11 месяцев назад

Why is everyone so offended or scared of the fact that prime kills in the movies… like we are talking about giant alien robots fighting a civil war THERE IS GOING TO BE KILLING AND SOME GRUESOME SCENES!

@AutobotSimmer 11 месяцев назад

Right, more realistic. Unfortunately people are thinking he must be like G1. No killing, hoping his enemies will surrender.

@danielmedela8725 11 месяцев назад

No, we´re not offended that he kills. We´re offended that he freaking enjoys killing, and then tries to kill some more instead of offering his opponents a chance to surrender. This Optimus is just Punisher, while he should be Captain America.

@anotherrandomguy8871 11 месяцев назад

@@danielmedela8725he doesn’t usually go out of his way to kill however. It’s the decepticons that usually go out of their way to try and kill him, or kill his ally’s and the humans, which then doesn’t end well for the decepticons.

@danielmedela8725 11 месяцев назад

@@anotherrandomguy8871 Tell that to Demolisher. He was clearly out of everybody´s way.

@hatsusama3296 11 месяцев назад

I mean, in a war you can kill your enemy but there's no necessary for free brutality that it's put just for some people's pleasures

@champchipman457 11 месяцев назад

I prefer the more brutal and cutthroat approach to optimus. I don’t see how a passive version would fit the type of conflict that gets thrown his way in the movies. Back in G1 the more passive/stoic approach worked because the decepticons were always up to dumb half-thought out ideas and retreated 99% of the time😂 I like the more violent and hardened approach from the live action movies

@RedSkullNotZ 10 месяцев назад

Why did Mirage murder those cops in that chase scene tho?

@ayomayo3852 10 месяцев назад

i love the Brutal Bayverse Optimus Prime so much more that this fcking 1980s Optimus Prime, i waited 5 or 6 Years to see what happens after The Last Knight and now we get this fcking Rise of the Beast movie that plays in 1980s this just does not make sense for me why they go back in Time and they could just stay on line but no now we get this. I know some Like the Rise of the Beast looks but my Opinion is they sould just continue where they were and not go fcking back in time. (MY OPINION)

@elijahdubois7902 11 месяцев назад

Yh, Optimus was doing some really dark things in the Bayverse.

@JCOwens-zq6fd 11 месяцев назад

The writing/directing decisions are a reflection of the morality of those who wrote/directed it & the fact that so few notice is a reflection of the morality of society over all.

@stonekiller33 10 месяцев назад

Dude 7 years is still a long time I would go crazy to 9:26 think about it every attempt you make to try to go home and it fails samurai Jack is a perfect example and it took him 15 years to go home

@HenryLouis21 10 месяцев назад

Seven years is nothing to a Transformer who has been at active war for millions of years.

@PaigeRobins-ky4qc 11 месяцев назад

I think they try to show how everyone gets frustrated sometimes.❤😊🤖😠

@matthewculmer5969 9 месяцев назад

Transformers movies are underrated 14:02

@seekerplex1880 11 месяцев назад

I honestly thought they would try to connect the timelines that way they had an excuse as to why he’s a psycho murderer with a face ripping fetish now it’s just the producers thinking we like the beacon of hope being a kill and violation counter

@user-qq3eh8ni4e 10 месяцев назад

It might be the black liquid parasite infecting him, like in my one comic book

@Day1supporter 11 месяцев назад

im suprised hes not talking about the cybertron game news

@TheFiniteSillyGuy 10 месяцев назад

optimus in the forest battle was getting his ass jumped, they got what they deserved IMO

@guywith37subs 11 месяцев назад

It's always a good day when rbg uploads 🎉

@agentumbra2374 11 месяцев назад

I hope that over future movies we will see him develop away from his more "give me your face" tendencies

@spartanimus621 11 месяцев назад

When i saw that transit scene i hated it because it doesnt fit optimus character he's not some serial killer, he suppose to be a symbol of hope and a protector of life where he uses violence to protect. Alot of people saw it and thought they should have kept it in but i disagree with it

@Chewbacca2000 10 месяцев назад

I agree 100%! I thought basically the exact same a while back, Micheal Bay seemed to have directed him to be a bit negative and vengeful - which is obviously not what Optimus is about. Is gross I think, I didn't like how Micheal Bay had Peter Cullen put all this aggression into parts of his otherwise amazing voice acting, is just off character and wrong.

@Deadlyflash7285 11 месяцев назад

Love your transformers videos also did you hear that apparently activision is looking for the war and fall of cybertron hard drives to potentially put the games on game pass. I’m excited for that cause we could get those games back!!!

@gundamdude8351 11 месяцев назад

Is this for real ?

@Deadlyflash7285 11 месяцев назад

@@gundamdude8351 yeah it was revealed at sandiego comic con during a hasbro Q&A panel when they were discussing the game series figures

@gundamdude8351 11 месяцев назад

@@Deadlyflash7285 oh wow thx for this info i am gonna make sure to keep checking this out hope they bring those ps3 games to the next gen consoles

@billywhite6703 11 месяцев назад

Cutting out the transit 5 was the right move because nobody wants a hero to be a straight-up killer, we want Optimus be the greatest leader that we all know and love him to be. Let's just hope they continue with that