They RUINED Mario Golf - Goomba Gripes 

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@@theminecraft2516 that profile tho

As someone who’s just seen him today I assumed he was highlighting how accuracy doesn’t matter because DK is known for bad accuracy.

lmao Talk about lazy

haha, I didn't notice that. Oh dear

they are also going to give us fReE Dlc just like Mario tennis a aces but in reality they are giving us a half assed game and then slowly giving us the full game

What do you mean?

They really dropped the golf ball on this one. Even Tennis Aces had decent mechanics and had a bit more content in it.

I knew this was gonna happen ever since Mario Tennis Aces but everybody dismissed me. Look at them now.

Did Kirby Star Allies still redeem itself even with the new content?

@@Loner098 and the fact that no other kirby game afterwards did too

@@stanzacosmi There were barely any actual Kirby games made recently.

Arlo is Freaking annoying and whiny. No one should regard anything he says.

bro toadstool tour had a 3 minute animation, and power tennis had a 5 minute long animation, that may not have the same quality but probably took a lot of work as well to make, and the games still turned out amazing with a greater amout of content, nintendo just really doing the bare minimum.

@@theguitardude5769 This game is made by Camelot not Nintendo

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 sure but still feels weird that theres a lower quality in the same franchise made by the same developer, don't really understand even tho nintendo isn't the developer they still should have some standards for what they want in a game, and it doesn't seem they are the same as in older games.

@@theguitardude5769 Games are a lot more expensive to make than it was back then. Games get more and more expensive as tech improves. Does this excuse anything? No. Nintendo has all the money in the world (They're the richest company in Japan), to give Camelot more than enough money to make a really good Mario Golf and Tennis game. Read it all first! :)

@@theguitardude5769 yeah and they’re gonna continue to do the bare minimum because Nintendo fans won’t let you criticize the games

The only reason it works with Splatoon anyway, is because it’s competitive and you unlock new weapons, equipment, modes, and so on. It’s not just a leaderboard. I don’t think a game should launch unfinished/lacking content, but at least with Splatoon by the time you get far enough unlocking stuff they’ve added new content. They won’t wait months to add things (although some of that was just locked away from the get go).

With Splatoon, as they add new weapons, they also had balance changes to already existing weapons. That’s the nature of competitive games like that

It definitely didn't work with it's sister series Animal Crossing...

The thing is Splatoon didn't even have the "Finish it later" mentality, It was a complete game from the start. They just added constant updates to the game to keep the community active, same also applies to Smash.

The game *is* finished tho. They're just adding more

Sounds like society in general as well.

He grew a pair of arms so he could hold the putter.

I had to play the story mode again just to record with that Mii. So I'm glad someone appreciated it.

@@TheLonelyGoomba I’m gonna have to add him in my Miitopia game at some point

Hoping Goomba Mii becomes the final DLC for Smash Bros.

True beauty

Oh my god you're right!

I'm pretty sure those lines are from Mario Kart Wii, which iirc is the first time Miis had a voice at all

They're from Mario Kart Wii. Pretty sad.

@@user-lf5xq4gu1g But more annoying now that it's just high pitched.

Year late response, but it still stands that apparently Nintendo really doesn't want to make any new voice lines for the characters if they already have a voice already. Just keep recycling the same ones!

Paper Mario is also on a downward spiral while the Mario and Luigi series is practically dead.

I've been trying to time it and it always seems to be off. WTF?

You simply misunderstand how it works. I can shoot exactly we’re I want because I set power BELOW THE RED ZONE.

@@TomAnderson7 yeah but u solved a problem that didn't have to be there 😶

Worse than what?

@@TomAnderson7 that doesnt matter, u should be able to time your accuracy, gives the game some fucking difficulty at least.

Mario’s Game Gallery had a better menu

@@MrSkerpentine And Wii Sports games

Ultra Smash was actually worse.

@@dhay03 Yes is worse but is nice they impove the next game on Tennis Aces but also in Golf saga they don't improve the game enough to be memorable just se how generic is the main theme

@@donodj613 tbh I kind of like the trend of Nintendo going for a more clean and "modern" look in their game UIs, but when it comes to Mario games they should at least find a good balance between simplicity and goofy, stylistic, cartoonish asthetics. Odyssey's menus looked like an iPhone home screen more than a game UI. It looked clean and pleasing to the eye but lacked Super Mario's signature character and charm.

Tbf, Camelot (the developers of the game) are not even a subsidiary of Nintendo (they're an exclusive partner however). They used to be incredible back in the GBA/Gamecube days with Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis and Golden Sun, but something definitely hit the bricks around the WiiDS era with them...

This is standard Nintendo/Consumer relationship stuff. Nintendo releases some good games, people love them. But then Nintendo drops the ball a bit, the fans call them out and accuse them of putting no effort into their games, asking what happened. Then a bit of time passes, and Nintendo "redeems" themselves and they're now loved by all once again. It's a vicious cycle.

Well then look who it is! Can't wait to see SMBZ next episode. And yes I agree. Though I do really like the game. But yeah more effort/modes will be appreciated.

Guess after Reggie left the creativity left with him

NOTICE ME SENPAI PLEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS this just a joke comment but none the less I still love your work

Mentality* And yeah, I agree. Finish it later is a horrible mindset that should be left only as a last resort.

Honestly right now I'm not even paying attention to them anymore, I've been paying attention to Sega instead, because Nintendo has been screwing up left and right. Their output as of recently has been definitely below average, sure they've had their one off solid titles recently like Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, last year Paper Mario: The Origami King was pretty okay, and Animal Crossing: New Horizons was fun for a good month until I got bored, but the trash we've been given definitely ways those three out, Super Mario 3D All Stars, The Legend of Zelda: SkyWard Sword HD, Mario Golf: Super Rush, and all of the stupid decisions like cancelling Mario's Anniversary on March 31st and taking away the only official Battle Royale for Mario we have, the way they've been treating the Super Smash Bros. Melee community, the way they've been treating the Splatoon community, they no longer have respect for the fans, they've become just another money hungry, greedy company.

@@koolaid33 It also bothers me how too many people can easily forgive Nintendo and seemingly forget the negative impact they created on most fan communities. Paper Mario: No longer allowed to have creative freedom with existing characters and can't be a proper RPG for literally no reason. It's a mix bag of different concepts by the developers the series doesn't even know what it wants to be. It has an identity crisis. Also, how they intentionally igroned the fans of their outcry of what they wanted for over a decade. SSB Melee and Splatoon: the negative impact they created with the communities for shutting them down. Let's also add how they outright dismissed the problems with Joycon drifting despite evidences showing otherwise and how overly protective they are of their IPs; they will shutdown fan creations and even targeted ROMs despite how legal they are for usage.

@@GottaFistDemAll Problem by the Paper Mario series is also pretty much tanabe the director of inteligent systems. He HEARS the critisism long and clear but what he do? Dont give a s*it...

I think they were over the top, but at least they didn’t reuse any

I think they’re following the “Paper Mario Rule” without actually being under it.

Might be worth comparing credits and seeing who's still actually working there 15-20 years after the release of the Gamecube versions of Mario Golf and Tennis.

@@blockmanvideo5635 tbh I don’t think it’s the paper Mario rule as intelligent systems claimed they couldn’t modify existing ones yet Camelot went out and slapped on golf outfits. Personally I think it’s either laziness of Camelot or just directors changing between toadstool tour and super rush.

Speaking of this, I couldn't believe Camelot created an original final boss more shallow than Intelligent System's King Olly, but they actually did it. The existence of the final boss in MGSR is only revealed in the penultimate area of the game, why?

@@ivanzoneBR The whole story mode was a complete mess. For 80% of the game, you are just working your way up the ranks of the golf league, then all of a sudden you get a legendary sword and go on a quest to save Bowser. I'll admit the absurdity of it was entertaining though. Advance Tour was better though. You become a golf Master, then you are invited by Mario to join his Master Tourtament. It's a simple but effect plot for a sports game and didn't try to be anything it wasn't.

You can see that this became the official Nintendo guideline for graphic design when the Switch generation started. It's like they decided that from that moment on the entire Nintendo "ecosystem" should have a uniform look, resembling the flat, clinical design of the Switch's UI (on the WiiU, they were quite fond of transparency and rounded edges, for example. At least they still didn't force it for every game). Kinda sad, really. Can you imagine a new Pikmin game nowadays without its fun, "bubbly" font?

Odyssey, BOTW, and New Horizons are a part of this weird minimalism trend too. The only big Switch game I think think of off the top of my head saved from this curse is Luigi's Mansion 3 with it's Virtual Boy menu theming, but I think even other parts of the UI might still have minimalism. It's incredibly boring. All of this plain HD lightning with semi-realistic or plastic textures is starting to look really samey too.

Omg this is my exact problem with this Mario Golf's menu screens. Black and white boxes are so bland and dull, it's just boring and a huge turnoff.

Mario Party looks like Mario Party, but I guess hating the new one because of a power star animation makes sense

We know she can walk and use her hands so she's just flexing

Yeah. Too bad it's an animation ripped directly from World Tour.

same

Getting some madness combat vibes from that for some reason.

@@3bebo376 you know what time it is!

Safe to assume that the folks that worked on those old games don't work there anymore. At least that's my guess and might explain why they're not that good any more

Now that's a pfp

@@KevinGsWK Goombob.

@@fyrflyr2378 Spongeba

This comment is pretty interesting because before Paul edited it it said just "YES".

@@nickk3077 YES

Down for what? Videos? Mario Golf? DTF?

What's up with the weirdly generic comment?

@@davidbronstein2040 They just want attention

Why?

@@fluffynator6222 guess he’s saying every game Nintendo has made since 2017 is garbage, bottom of the bin, 3/10 schlock.

@@blockmanvideo5635 That's just bullshit.

@@fluffynator6222 I think that’s what he’s trying to get at, but don’t quote me on that.

@@blockmanvideo5635 yeah Nintendo was wayyyy worse on the wiiu

Fr, spin-offs reusing so many old voices when they used to record new lines all the time is getting pretty lame.

Yeah nintendo would definitely ruin strikers 3 lmao

As long as Camelot isn't involved, it'll be safe. They got Next Level Games anyway, right? Let them do it. They're letting Retro Studious do Metroid Prime 4, so I'd expect Strikers to say with Next Level Games.

@@custom-ra new Strikers is more likely than an new M&L.....Rip AlphaDream (At least it wont be an new Sticker Star or Ultra Smash

@Hammer The man Yeah,all of those were good (LM2 was kinda meh), but if Nintendo doesnt interfere too much it may be good

The one developer of Mario Strikers is Next Level Games, not Camelot.

After ultra smash mario sports games just turned into hot doodoo butter like aces was pretty good but thats ONE game.

@@kha0ticdud3 Aces started out lackluster too until all the updates came in. Drip Feeding content into games... While it works some people are tired of that practice for those who notice.

It did honestly give me the same feeling as Ultra Smash once I finished the story mode and was like..."now what?". It's not AS bad but, it has that feeling. Aces wasn't brimming with content either but at least the online was solid and had tournaments to work towards.

Super rush is way better than ultra smash. Ultra smash offers like 5 courses that are all identical, just palette swapped, and literally nothing else. At least super rush has an 8-10 hour long story mode and 4 other free play modes with 6 courses with 18 holes each, all unique from one another

@@chickennoodlegamer915 Ultra Smash did have a single player mode of sorts. The endless mode had bosses and an “ending” when beating Dry Bowser. I think you had to do around 50 fights without losing. Can’t remember

Wait a minute... both 2015 and 2021 have awesome games with weird fanbases (Undertale and Friday Night Funkin), uncomfortable shipping of real people (Septiplier and Dream X George), pattern recognition memes (Illuminati and Among Us), parodies of Estelle songs that are more popular than the original (Undertale Stronger Than You and Chug Jug With You), and now terrible Mario sports games (Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash and Mario Golf: Super Rush). We are living in a fucking time loop.

@@rayman3521 Can't wait for 2027

It’s fantastic...

It's not bad at all, just content light. His title is the epitome of clickbait here lol

@@Robbie_Haruna not really... it kind of really sucks

@@Hamantha it's definitely not a bad game by any means lol It's just lacking in content

@@Robbie_Haruna which makes paying 60 dollars not worth it at all.

Imagine they drip feed the mini games in that game… like we get 50 at launch and the other 50 a year later and the boards to, god I hope not.

@@NickMario1 Exactly my point.

Mario Party Superstars turned out to not be like that.

I wish they did tbh because it only has five boards or so and they never updated it lol

@@LuigiFan04 It was still disappointing. Mario Party has become far too forgiving and the items are boring.

Ikr

I really liked N64 Mario Golf's music. I mean really, the course music was relaxing and fun to listen to while playing and was unique to each course, and the game's putting music was a nice choice of tune remixed from prior Mario games... Even though the howler monkeys and ape noises on the 4th course was sometimes slightly distracting and/or annoying, but not too much of a complaint there because it does create a bit of environmental immersion, and at least nothing like that happens with the other 5 course soundtracks. N64 Mario Golf is my favorite of the series. Some good memories .

Mario on the phone

But what is the problem? The content is not lacking in the slightest, that's just a fact. Goomba is hating the game for stupid reason such as "this mode is similar to a mode in a previous game"

@@Mqstodon the other games had more content, better mechanics and more animations, this is another fucking ultra smash deal. A barebones full priced rushed game that will only become fine through updates.

Welp, you predicted the booster course pass. Literally just graphically downgraded prototypes of Tour courses. They massacered coconut mall.

@@hinasolver685 At least the booster course tracks are still fun and exciting.

This is why I think Toadstool Tour is the peak of the series. The game alone already has so much content for those who do not have a GBA, but if you had a GBA obtained Advance Tour, there is even more to do.

Yeah, guess we shall see. It wont fix the issues with the gameplay but it'll be less of a blow if there's a ton of content.

@@TheLonelyGoomba Really depends on how much content they're adding, if there are any other QoL features, and the distribution of said content to complete the game. No one benefits if it's just adding one new course every couple of months and there being a short amount of updates

It's the core mechanics what's being borked here (among other things) it'll take more than just some random "update" to fix.

This is kind of pathetic to say, but even season passes are more honest. You get an idea of how much content you’re getting, even if you don’t know the specifics (like it says characters/stages just not which ones). With “free updates” that really just means they can choose how much of the unfinished game they feel like finishing, and can’t be held accountable because they never listed anything specific. “Don’t worry, they’re going to add new content.” “How much?” “I don’t know.” “Exactly.” With Super Mario Party people kept saying they might add more content. Well they didn’t, so now where are you? Oh, you moved on because you stopped caring so they got away with it and you’ll fall for it again. Not to mention it wouldn’t matter if they added new content anyway, because they make the mechanics/stages in these games so basic now. They’re not going to increase the quality for free content, so it’s just more content that’s as bland as the base game.

Exactly what I've been thinking since the release of the Switch, most games on it are shitty third party indie games or games that were already released on previous consoles, but resold at full price. The only "Original" games on the Switch I can think of on the top of my head are Odyssey, Splatoon 2, the Tennis game, and this. And let's not kid ourselves, Splatoon 2 is basically Splatoon 1 Deluxe.

Super Mario Party was a snoozefest. Almost everything had an animation that took a minute or longer, there was almost no risk to anything, the items were downright useless (excluding a select few) and they had their own use animation that also took a minute, the walking speed was slow (and there was no fast mode), the minigames were slow and tedious, and above all the boards were far too basic.

@@tropicalbreeze1164 agree, Nintendo has been disappointing this gen

@@tropicalbreeze1164 Hopefully Splatoon 3 will be enjoyable, it's a pretty good franchise that doesn't deserve to be butchered like with these Mario spin-off titles

Ah right, Nintendo HAAAAAAAAAAAATES competitive gameplay. They would much prefer casual fun for the whole family rather than something that might drive the confused little kids away.

​@@wanderingmarshadow Which sucks, because all of that and more can be fixed with options. With some group of friends, we play with Items in Smash. With other group of friends, we turn items off. Everyone wins.

@@seacliff217 Unfortunately, Nintendo is a japanese company. They operate under the logic that "if you don't play the game the way we intend you to, then you're at fault".

More like smash bros brawl

Ironically, Mario Kart Wii has the biggest competitive scene of any Mario Kart game.

Yeah.... it is sad what this amazing company have devolved too,..

The worst thing is that story modes don't have much replayability value except for speedrunners or other people who make unconventional use of the game. So they spend a lot of their development time in a game mode that once you finisht it after 5 or 6 hours, it's like it doesn't exist anymore. In the case of Mario Golf this is particularly bad because after you finish Story Mode you are left with a kind of demo with no content at all.

I disagree as I feel the story mode is what I look forward to in these games the most. Tho I dont think the story mode should replace the main modes we got just add to them.

@@jpa3974 Well technially the same could be said for single player games in general yet they are still loved.

Yeah it is sad... To be honest? Back then when i buyed Toadstool tour i had absolutly no clue about golf in the slightest so i got my butt kicked many times... but slowly i worked myself in and to this day i still love this game

You're right on some things but off on others. Like I don't doubt that the new accuracy system was to make it more accessible, but it's also pretty incorrect to say that the old shot system was what made Mario Golf special, (as it was literally just a bog standard shot system you'd see in almost any Golf Game.) It's also worth noting that despite the accuracy changes making the skill floor lower the changes to how shots are curved gives this a much higher skill ceiling than past games as well, (it helps that because the holes are all on one big map, there's a number of holes where you can think outside of the box and fire to another part of the course for a setup shot.) The modes being removed likely had nothing to do with making it more accessible and moreso because they put their focus elsewhere. While I don't disagree that certain modes had no business being gone (Ring Shot, Club Slots, Doubles and so forth would all have fit in very well and even could have synergized well with Speed Golf, hell there's modes like XC Golf you can onlyplay in the story mode,) they evidently rushed it for release and put all their effort into Speed Golf as the secondary mode, (though credit where it's due, Speed Golf is much more fleshed out than any of the past side modes at the very least,) we also can't pretend all the past side modes were winners either, a good chunk of them would be missed out of principle as opposed to because they were a good mode. In that same vein; the Equipment System from World Tour was very likely not toned down for accessibility, but rather; toned down because everyone hated how it meant so much that you were railroaded into one set, they tied most of the major stuff to leveling and the clubs/clothes are mostly a bonus. It's also worth noting that a best shots thing being missing doesn't matter much these days since the Switch has a built in recording feature, of all the features it's easily the most reasonable one to be missing.

They really need to stop looking at "accessibility." Their attempts to making games more accessible have only made them be more restrictive. Plenty of their Wii-U games feel more accessible than this because they didn't try.

A lot of modern games are doing this. Look at smash ultimate compared to previous entries. Any modern FG compared to old ones. Heck even DMC5 while a step up in some categories is a massive step down in the deph and player expression older titles gave. So many games of different genre's are doing this nowadays and many people are loving the new titles more as shown by sales and such. I hope platformers never take this path.

@@dave9515 Smash Ultimate isn't even a remotely accurate comparison lol. No it's not as in depth as something like Melee (pretty much no game really is,) but it hasn't bogged down the mechanics in any remotely major degree and has undeniably given the competitive scene the most love it's ever gotten by the development team and at the very least it has much more going for it mechanically than every other game aside from arguably Melee (and even then the two coexist with strong competitive scenes because they succeed at different things.) Plus, contrary to something like Mario Golf suffering in terms of content to (presumably,) not overwhelm players Smash Ultimate is not remotely short on content either. Hell you could apply the same mechanical claims about most modern fighting games, a game being made to not completely alienate any newcomers doesn't automatically equate to being dumbed down and it's incredibly ignorant to make such a claim. Hell the only reason you could even spin a valid Mario Golf comparison with most modern fighters is because they follow the "add most of the characters and stages later," approach (except as paid DLC through various season passes.)

You can actually unlock the stages just by playing through them in other modes.

@@TheLonelyGoomba thanks, man wish i knew that a few days ago, id probably have less resentment towards this game

As if simplified logos weren’t bad enough.

Ezactly. Dont get why people think splatoon as an example of release unfinished game and finish it later. Splatoon, in my opinion, was already beefy at the start. And they just kept adding more and more content, and even in splatoon 2 a seperate dlc story.

@@kha0ticdud3 Yeah both 1 and 2 Splatoons did this very well. I only wish they would have keep Splatfests on longer since those were most fun events. Monster Hunter Rise also does this right. But yeah I hope not all future games become like this that are supported by multiplayer like these examples.

Agreed yet (at least for me) the n64 was also pretty amazing. The switch itself have so much potential as a console.... but they dont even TRY to use it...

DS was also a great console, arguably even better than the wii

They think the game does ship complete. And the updates are just bonus content on top of a already completed game. In which case, the completed game sucks and is still just as bad as releasing an unfinished game.

Yeah, it took 3 days rather than a month to edit lol

Same can be said for Animal Crossing: New Horizons

Well let's wait and see how it shakes out. I still say New Horizons and Super Mario Maker 2 are the worst of it so far because they left the games unfinished and simply fucked off with the money (before anyone comes at me about SMM2, I just have three words: "Extra Game StyleS"). Not to defend Nintendo at all, of course. Just saying that they can and have done worse so far and it's not clear yet whether they'll stoop that low again here.

@@lol-ih1tl exactly. Like i dont rlly understand why people saw like one spot on the extra game styles and were like "OMG NEW MODE COMING REEEE" and then get their hopes crushed. Not to blame them, i was honestly shocked when they said zelda was the final update. But yea mm2 had a ton of content but nintendo dropped it for some reason?

Yeah it's weird. It's like they're not allowed to get too good of a score so they just move away from the hole regardless and miss

I agree. They could have at least made it more subtle and have them undershoot instead. I really don't get why they have to do that.

This only happens in Stroke Play (maybe Speed Golf too?). If you switch to Points Play, they aren't as bad.

Eh Mario Maker 2 wasn't really half finished.

well, finished is a matter of opinion as far as creative works are concerned. but the point is; there is tons and tons of content that was planned after release that was clearly abandoned a few months after it had poor sales. the SMB2 mushroom hardly even made the cut after being reduced from a downloadable additional mode to a single powerup; and that's about all there is to say about things that even made it in at all.

Its fine, playable, enjoyable, and getting updates. It's the closest thing to wii sports golf on switch

Yeah, but it's still lacking though in terms of content.

@@spicypeppers7773 im hype for the updates

Let's hope they're good at least. Praying for you man.

If they gave Mario a break much earlier, or better yet, cool off on the mandates, Mario games could be creative like in the pre-Switch days.

@@custom-r I'd say pre-Wii U days

At least we got Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle and sooner; Sparks of Hope. But those were made by Ubisoft & Nintendo kinda agreed to it. Um. At least we got Mario 3D World port as well.

That's not a very high bar to cross, to be fair.

Mario party 10

sticker star

Ultra Smash is the Mario Sports equivalent of Sonic Boom; it's bad. It's not even funny bad. The bottom of the barrel.

@@Hugelag Even sonic boom had good qualities like the animation, ultra smash was just a soulless rushed pile of trash.

I blame the low sales of these games from the 3DS/Wii U era.

@@JIreland1992 I mean fair enough I suppose, not much incentive to put that much into it if it appears to have diminishing returns compared to other bigger games

@@bandannadoo I will probably say that with making their first bad Mario golf, probably Camelots budget got butchered and that’s why this look like not great

@@LoreGamerTV youd figure it be higher budget cause they got another animated intro like the gamecube era games, but i guess that was the most they could do similarly to the older games

@@bandannadoo yeah but remember that this time around the whole course is like a massive map so they had to increase the work on that and including the hub worlds for the rpg. They probably spent most of them time in working on those sadly

Play Mario Golf on the N64 or the Gamecube. I'm sure you won't regret it.

I know who Uncle Al is. He’s actually in the comment section of this video, I think he has top comment with a DK profile picture

I think those Mii voices are actually the same from the 3ds version Had like a flashback to Mario kart 7 when I heard the voice, uh

Like honestly if they do awful they should be slamming the floor, and should look super excited if doing amazing

Those animations only happen when you get the ball in the hole though. And if you’re playing locally/online you could have it play on that person’s screen but not on the others.

They could have just made two sets.

Maybe that could be a valid excuse for an indie dev, but this is a Mario game. No reason the two mode types can't have sperate animations. Not to imply crunch, I happily could have waited until the end of the year for this game if it meant polish like that. But I don't even think a few cool animations would even warrant taking until the end of a year..?? Nintendo used to be really good at animations and still are if Smash trailers are anything to go by. They just.. don't. They don't do the thing.

Most Nintendo's games are worth like 40 max, imo. Those extra 20 are what I call the "Nintendo tax". The "privilege" to play their games. Fuck that, I'mma pirate their crap, yarr

@@nobodyinparticular9640Gasp! I’m calling the Nintendo ninjas on you!

Much like most modern Nintendo games

Finally??? Reviewers and players have been pretty honest about the flaws and disappointment of Super Rush (at least from what I have seen)

@@JohnLucPicard98 botw, splatoon, oddysey, mk8d, mm2, kirby, smash, and botw2 and splatoon 2 in 2022. Im sorry, but i dont get this

@@kha0ticdud3 Kirby games are not great

@@JohnLucPicard98 Of course the Kermit pfp would have a bad take.

well, you’re not wrong. and even they demoed that with the Wii controls in the ads featuring this game.

Except with no repercussions for them this time.

I kind of hope so, they made some decent games then

It feel like we've been in the second dark age. I don't think Nintendo can keep up in the HD era. They're barely putting out 720p 3D Zelda.

With Metroid Dread coming out this October and BOTW 2 on the horizon, I'd hardly say one bad Mario spinoff is going to put a damper on the sheer number of amazing Switch games Nintendo's putting out.

They started this console generation with Mario Odyssey, how did things get so bad? I blame Nintendo switch online personally.

I admire your optimism with the updates. My issue with the whole update design is, you're going in blind. Could be 5 more courses, could be 2.

Unfortunately most of this didn’t happen.

@@PichusBlueberryPies yeah... maybe next game. :)

They have up on the main line ones too I can assure you... Sand Kingdom. Water Kingdom. Forest Kingdom. Trash. 90s Nintendo killed it. 00s Nintendo killed it. After that they stopped caring! The young crowd SUCK at making games!

Its more so the company pulling the strings on certain decisions than the devs. Companies nowadays play it more safe rather than taking the risk for something interesting and unique even if it doesn't become a hit. Nintendo was one of those companies back then. Nowadays....not so much.

@@bigoof9654 That's part of the reason. But only a small part. The op is correct!

@@SunshineSuperstar Yes I agree. Though it is helpful to know certain specifics when it comes to Nintendo. It really seems like they lost their groove nowadays in terms of certain games. It hurts they stopped caring about the Mario sports games because I like those games.

@@bigoof9654 I hear you bro! Mario golf 64. Classic. Toadstool tour. Classic. Strikers. Sluggers. What have you. All classics from the 64 and game cube era. They left the wiki era at just the wii sports play stuff but those were great too. It's heartbreaking to see these games treated so unlovingly and to have their legacies tarnished! Absolutely heartbreaking man!

This aged like milk

Easy, the spin offs from the 3DS and Wii u era sold poorly.

I'm with you there... the gamecube era of games was magical.

YEEEEEEP... there's a reason why SO MANY YEARS laters, people will still talk about the older titles and World Tour in the case of the 3Ds. They had enough content and the gameplay was fairly consistent. And even with no online, you could still enjoy everything they had to offer. And the replayability was pretty high! You had character taunts and cheers, Mini Golf, Ring Mode, Club Slots, etc. Like I won't care about Mario Tennis Aces outside of the new character additions because the offline side has very little content compared to the GameCube game and as gimmicky as the... _Gimmick Courts_ were, those courts had such great charm and fanservice to the Mario franchise AND you can play on them without any hazards! Camelot was firing on ALL cylinders back then. Nowadays, it's just flash and style over substance with online being the main focus with little else to show for it. Although the opening movie in Mario Golf Super Rush is a 10/10 like the GameCube opening movies.

Such a nasty situation. Some of the best games in some franchises are stuck on consoles that didn't sell that well like the gamecube. Now that the Switch has been such a huge hit and video games are more mainstream than ever, people are rushing to buy all these series they either heard were good from other people or are being introduced to it and buy it simply because they're games with iconic IPs. And they end up selling practically better than anything before, despite the games usually just being standard to mediocre at best from the perspective of hardcore fans of the series. Which can only make said hardcore fans worry because it means Nintendo can easily get away with making games like these again in the future, because it's so profitable. Less effort, or at the very least, creativity, than what they've had to do before, for way more profit. It just feels gross.

@@orbic521 And watch Nintendo port those older games over for anniversaries, but in the most lazy, half-assed way. That's the most recognition most of them would get nowadays, a lot of them have been completely forgotten sadly.

What about Mario Strikers? They better not screw it up!

Mario Super Sluggers is the best Mario Sports game, I don't want Nintendo to screw up that series.

They won't, super rush isn't as bad as people blow it up to be.

@@MDComix i sort of agree. People just like to whine about everything nowadays

If you have a Gamecube, i highly recommend Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour

Really don't. A lot of what he's criticizing are really so nitpicky

@@Mqstodon Its not nitpicky you are not accepting reality when he clearly show you the proof

@@Mqstodon It’s really the little things that can change your view on something. A. Lot. Of little things in this case

Because it allows you to strategize what your stats are at any given time

Idk about smash there, it seems pretty good to me (online is shit tho)

Unpopular opinion: wii u ports werent that bad. Most ppl didnt even have a wii u so its honestly great for them and smart for nintendo. And plus, they havent really been doing that lately, instead making sequels

@@kha0ticdud3 (EDIT BECAUSE IT'S 1 AM AND I CAN'T TYPE) Fair opinion, since the Wii U didn't even meet THEIR OWN EXPECTATIONS at sales - a lot of people likely never played those Wii U exclusives until the super successful Wii U->Switch ports

I saw three reviews wrongly state the swing system was the same as past games. They’re no good

@@TheLonelyGoomba I agree, I too have been a fan of the previous Mario Golf games, I never played the 3DS game because I don't play mobile games, but I loved the N64 and Gamecube games, I was really hoping that this game would be just like them but with more content and stuff, looks like I can save my money