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Thief Steals TWO Boars! 

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On occasion you'll see one boar steal. But THIS time MbL went for the double lame! Liereyy has to respond to being down 700 food 3 minutes into the game. Can he hold on?
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@T90Official
@T90Official 4 года назад
I casted this entire game thinking Aztecs was Mayans. LOL
@ArnabChaks007
@ArnabChaks007 4 года назад
You mean mayans mongols, right?
@vinnuaniyan5196
@vinnuaniyan5196 4 года назад
Noob Caster?
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 4 года назад
I mean, have often do we NOT see a Mayan in a Pro Game?
@dylansheil2992
@dylansheil2992 4 года назад
@@ArnabChaks007 MBL was mongols and Liereyy was Aztecs. The whole game T90 refers to Liereyy as playing as Mayans :P
@suyash5608
@suyash5608 4 года назад
Whoops! Whoopsie!
@mrtodschatten2425
@mrtodschatten2425 4 года назад
"If you lose one boar, that's one thing. If you lose another boar, that's another thing" Pure poetry.
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 4 года назад
lol
@thedrunkenrebel
@thedrunkenrebel 4 года назад
Boar=thing. Did the math in my head, out loud
@cleonanderson1722
@cleonanderson1722 4 года назад
T90 has ascended to the John Madden plane.
@Kelso540
@Kelso540 4 года назад
In today's episode of "If John Madden were to cast AoE II." Lmao.
@Fmoon20
@Fmoon20 4 года назад
Yet another if you lose them to a mongol player
@MegasXaos
@MegasXaos 4 года назад
Don't want your boar stolen? Go take it.
@Caution2TheWind1
@Caution2TheWind1 4 года назад
The zooming in and out was great, I didn't notice any problems with resolution (although my little iPhone SE isn't anything to judge by), the sound was a little different but not bothering. The content was frikkin amazing as always
@yuyoshi1602
@yuyoshi1602 4 года назад
Does anyone have the link to the t90 discord? Im having trouble getting voobly to work with my copy of aoe 2 hd
@outwithayang7153
@outwithayang7153 4 года назад
Personally I'd say no boar steal for first 5, maybe 6 minutes. Gets kind of stale to just see both players steal and countersteal, but also feels wrong to eliminate the strategy entirely. Better to just put a time limit to punish people for late boar hunting.
@asdf123311
@asdf123311 4 года назад
was it a mistake for lierry to scout the back before the front? (noob question)
@princessbinas
@princessbinas 4 года назад
My Opinion: Not enough boars were stolen.
@ceshmate1953
@ceshmate1953 4 года назад
Think that only vils should be allowed to one hit the boars.
@tehBadboy09
@tehBadboy09 4 года назад
@@ceshmate1953 its all skill based, no worries.
@fredericzhang7686
@fredericzhang7686 4 года назад
1:26 "Why are these pigs following the boar"
@Gabrol
@Gabrol 4 года назад
mongols now start with a boar scout
@_S_a_m_e_e_r
@_S_a_m_e_e_r 4 года назад
Oh he meant it... he wants to say MBL is a boar......
@Lloyd.B
@Lloyd.B 4 года назад
And why is this deer stealing two scouts?
@4ngi3CK
@4ngi3CK 4 года назад
11
@Caltelt
@Caltelt 4 года назад
This man did the math. In his brain. Out loud.
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 4 года назад
MbL, the Math in brain out Loud, the Main battle Line is the Menacing boar Lure of the Master boar Lamer, this is his Microsoft business License, in private he is the Mister boob Lover, the Married but Looking Menstrual blood Loss inducing Maximum boob Loader.
@ethanboardman873
@ethanboardman873 4 года назад
Korosh Rostami What the fuck did I just read
@Syfiass
@Syfiass 4 года назад
17:22 "Mayan privilege man ! Mayans... Mayans can just do this.." While selecting a TC that says "Aztecs" :D
@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism
@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism 4 года назад
It's like I'm back at university...
@ottovonbaden6353
@ottovonbaden6353 4 года назад
21:33 - Boar related pun goes unnoticed by caster.
@ACID_
@ACID_ 4 года назад
"I don't want to boar you guy's"
@owlthemolfar4690
@owlthemolfar4690 4 года назад
T90 become master of puns. He makes them without knowing himself.
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 4 года назад
Last time, when someone stole a boar a Chinese man said "I NO PIG" I miss that word xD
@JewelManDLN069
@JewelManDLN069 4 года назад
Just watched that video last week, that was hilarious: Liereyy vs. Vivi. xD
@skullkrusherz2316
@skullkrusherz2316 4 года назад
@@JewelManDLN069 pretty sure it was viper VS vivi
@JewelManDLN069
@JewelManDLN069 4 года назад
@@skullkrusherz2316 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wJFs-C99xXc.html This is the video "I NO PIG" I watched, and it was Liereyy vs. Vivi, the one you watched might be another one?
@jackblack5962
@jackblack5962 4 года назад
Jewel Man DLN-069 i saw the viper one, viper replied wtf
@JewelManDLN069
@JewelManDLN069 4 года назад
@@jackblack5962 Now I'm curious, do you have the link of that video? :D
@JewelManDLN069
@JewelManDLN069 4 года назад
It's both awkward and funny that T90 called Liereyy's civ as Mayans the whole time when his civ was Aztecs. :P
@SemiMono
@SemiMono 4 года назад
I didn't notice that. I thought those monks were kinda tough.
@alexgalleguillos4467
@alexgalleguillos4467 4 года назад
About the boar thing in HC3, don’t put rules there! Maybe some “Re” but the grand theft boar is one of the funniest things to watch, also helps us to know who is MBL!
@AlayanT
@AlayanT 4 года назад
Give one more "re" than in the previous editions. A good lamer can make their opponent waste it and not have it when the map generation is bad, but the "re" keeps luck/RNG in check. 1-hit laming carries much less risk.
@SenselessUsername
@SenselessUsername 4 года назад
MBL? Never! Maybe one boar... maybe... OK ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uQuGJLwyaPU.htmlh26m never mind.
@owlthemolfar4690
@owlthemolfar4690 4 года назад
Totally agree. More other, I think one hit for biar agro is fine. You need MBL level skill to still one effectively (not to mention 2, even master need his luck to get them so close together. Speaking about - may be some map generation optimisation). Also as T90 says it is making game interesting, because theft victim need to adapt!
@spd7693
@spd7693 4 года назад
Laming in general must be forbidden. It destroys the fairness of the fights.
@alexgalleguillos4467
@alexgalleguillos4467 4 года назад
spd7693 have you ever tried to lame a boar? It is extremely difficult to do, while getting an economy and all things u must do in Dark Age. And i imagine u saw this game where Lierrey even with 2 boars stolen, still won the game. It is just part of the Aoe2 gameplay. If that is your point, then don’t allow rushes or towers and just make it a game of one big fight at the end “to be fair”
@mingelcoac
@mingelcoac 4 года назад
"the zoom is really nice, I got to see everything!" Except Lierrey's civ apparently 11
@lf2208
@lf2208 4 года назад
MBL: Steals 2 boars, denies opponents berries with a tower Also MBL: 8:58 Surprised by archers coming out (Only unit that does not cost the opponent any food)
@jimbo5071
@jimbo5071 4 года назад
this is amazing... like i can barely lure my own boar, its insane micro do a tournament seeing how many boars 1 person can lure
@jimbo5071
@jimbo5071 4 года назад
@J K too many and theres no point tho. There must be a balance
@BazzBrother
@BazzBrother 4 года назад
nah It should be a "Boar Lure nothing" map, where all the food is boars on the opposite end of the map and they have to lure each one
@jimbo5071
@jimbo5071 4 года назад
@@BazzBrother there is cannonboar nothing
@AdobadoFantastico
@AdobadoFantastico 4 года назад
Boar nothing
@craftyman
@craftyman 4 года назад
Hey T90, Just wanted to say - I've really enjoyed your commentaries. You're so detail-oriented and do such a good job of keeping the games interesting. Thanks for the videos! I'm sure glad I'm subscribed!
@niki8280
@niki8280 4 года назад
If he was so detail oriented, maybe he would have realized that liereyy was using aztecs and not mayans, yes? 11
@craftyman
@craftyman 4 года назад
@@niki8280 Details... who needs 'em? haha
@klosterdev
@klosterdev 4 года назад
Really appreciate my sleep aid T90. Take care of your mental health, and don't be afraid to get therapy if you need.
@callmeswivelhips8229
@callmeswivelhips8229 4 года назад
I want to agree with this statement
@joshcanode3261
@joshcanode3261 4 года назад
Laming should still be allowed in Hidden Cup 3. It makes the games even more entertaining.
@lucasgiordano604
@lucasgiordano604 4 года назад
players can´t lame in tournaments?
@dewersin
@dewersin 4 года назад
@@lucasgiordano604 When I've seen it, it's intended so scouts don't go deer/sheep hunting, but as a consequence no boar stealing either
@f.c.laukhard3623
@f.c.laukhard3623 4 года назад
@@lucasgiordano604 It depends on who sets the tournament up, some people do not allow laming but it seems to me that it is more often allowed than not.
@crazyyoco
@crazyyoco 4 года назад
It was not allowed on any DE tournaments becuse of 1 hit aggro. If it was 2 hit there wouldnt be any problems.
@f.c.laukhard3623
@f.c.laukhard3623 4 года назад
@@crazyyoco That's the reason why T90 was asking but even before when it was two hits, there were some people who preferred setting the rules to no laming.
@Verdandi_P
@Verdandi_P 4 года назад
100% love the 1440p res
@CubeBizz
@CubeBizz 4 года назад
I NO PIG
@Dollar-gc9in
@Dollar-gc9in 4 года назад
1
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader 4 года назад
6:39 T90 Still hasn't realized it's Aztecs. Pro Caster move right there Throughout the whole game: T90 calls them Mayans. T90Racist?
@sivertskofterud8186
@sivertskofterud8186 4 года назад
devansh haha! Noticed that as well! Still Get his point though :D
@callmeswivelhips8229
@callmeswivelhips8229 4 года назад
Y90 racist?? Everyone knows Peru is cooler than Mexico!
@cunbbse
@cunbbse 4 года назад
17:30 and we're still calling the Aztec Mayans.. come on man, you're confusing me as well :D
@LT_PL
@LT_PL 4 года назад
Mbl is the saltiest Player in the whole aoe2 community. Hes got so much Salt in it that it could supply Gordon ramsay in Salt for 10 years
@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism
@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism 4 года назад
That is why we love him. VULULU
@ShubhamC24
@ShubhamC24 3 года назад
@@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism just like we love the kardashians... toxicity online is loved by many
@gerardorodriguez4504
@gerardorodriguez4504 4 года назад
im lose two boars and say gg . this is insane play for liereyy
@barsni4779
@barsni4779 4 года назад
It's funny dynamics with the boars. It have no significance on lowest level, increased value with the skill growth and somehow negated on the highest level.
@wqeasd7107
@wqeasd7107 3 года назад
@@barsni4779 lol Mbl should have easily won being 2 boars up. Nothing negated.... just a really bad follow up from mbl and props to liereyy for not tilting and eventually winning
@barsni4779
@barsni4779 3 года назад
@@wqeasd7107 If it wasn't negated Mbl would've won all his games.
@RobTausteelie
@RobTausteelie 4 года назад
Yes 1 hit is an issue. Is it a big enough issue to nerf MBL? I'm not convinced. The players are well aware of the game mechanics and it is up to them to adapt. Allow laming. New meta will have to be considered for players to stay competitive
@wqeasd7107
@wqeasd7107 3 года назад
it is a random mechanic, not skill based, making it shitty, giving your opponent entire initiative, better eco as well, and your only hope being the opponent messes up
@beardookeashley3946
@beardookeashley3946 4 года назад
Thanks for asking!!! Laming the boar is a fact of the the game to me. If someone can manage to steal your boars, kudos to them! Not much different than sniping too many villagers to me. Like an Incas rush. Or Korean tower rush. Or Persian Douche. It's just a strategy. Please honor the need for strategies in this game!!!!!!!! And furthermore, how exciting you have made Hidden Cups in the mystery of are you watching your favorite? For example, I am a Hera fan. I can't wait to watch him go micro-nerd and try to figure out if it's him or Viper. Thanks for listening. 14 14 14 14 14 30 30 30!!!
@hotjavalava
@hotjavalava 4 года назад
allow laming. it's part of the game. also if you spot the lame you can hit the boar and it will aggro onto your scout since the opponent only hit it once; you can steal your boar back. your opponent sacrifices scouting their base to run around and try to lame you so they may not find their resources. Also you could edit the maps so that the boar spawn slightly closer to the TC so that it will make defending laming slightly easier.
@jessel3621
@jessel3621 4 года назад
Laming should be allowed. It is just another strategy along with TC dropping, tower rushing, ect. Part of Age of Empires is adapting to the map you get and what happens in the game. I do not even like making the maps less random. That is why you get restarts.
@jonbarrett8002
@jonbarrett8002 4 года назад
if i played AoE 2, i would do all the dirty things, laming, walling in, destroying their trees with mangonels, basically all of it. and then i'll die and lose the games anyway.
@asgeirsoe
@asgeirsoe 4 года назад
Jon Barrett I can relate to this. Karma strikes back at you when laming the opponent!
@ichigoblackTWD
@ichigoblackTWD 4 года назад
@@asgeirsoe Yes
@Sherlock-Eco
@Sherlock-Eco 4 года назад
Meanwhile in Village that where my grandfather lives, We shoo Boars away from farms with drums, Reversed Boar Luring :p
@dominusalicorn3684
@dominusalicorn3684 4 года назад
21:17 your "whoops whoops" sounds like a villager saying "oup oup"
@unearthlyenemy
@unearthlyenemy 4 года назад
I agree. We really should just leave the math to Spirit of the Law. He's really good at it and we maybe am not.
@walkermyers3808
@walkermyers3808 4 года назад
Lierrey's decision to make monks in anticipation of the knights is what won him the game, after an amazing hold in feudal, which was smaller because MBL put the extra food into eco instead of military. Great game
@Zoey--
@Zoey-- 4 года назад
I think it should be 2 hits to steal. However lets be real that map generations not going to happen often. That said Liereyy knocked this out the park.
@williamdunkley5791
@williamdunkley5791 4 года назад
"thief steals two boars" me: this has to be MbL
@dwightmanne
@dwightmanne 4 года назад
We as viewers love laming.
@WillyMacShow
@WillyMacShow 4 года назад
It probably is too OP. But it adds excitement to the dark age since nobody drushes anymore. Allow the lames!!!
@MrDrCthulhu
@MrDrCthulhu 4 года назад
For those in the future: it looks like the military attacking animals thing was changed in a hotfix recently. So it's back to 2 for them to chase you all the way home.
@AviSandy
@AviSandy 4 года назад
Bad casting ! Missed the key moment when he took boars !! 24
@telepresencebot2
@telepresencebot2 4 года назад
+1 for 1440p. I can finally watch at native resolution!
@Metin2Bombe
@Metin2Bombe 4 года назад
How does the Bonus with the Longer last ressource work?
@michaelhallii3322
@michaelhallii3322 4 года назад
mental funk no good man. I completely understand, been trying to get out of my mental funk for a while now. You are great at what you do just know that.
@Michal235
@Michal235 4 года назад
8:57 it seems open, there may be a path just next to the cliff
@newdarkages3191
@newdarkages3191 4 года назад
boar laming is dumb in de. It is not in good spirit of the game to be able to only hit a boar once to get the lame. Another flaw for de and laming is that the host/person higher up in the lobby browser gets a lower "player_id" to the server which for some reason makes it easier to block units with your own units. While the player with the higher/worse "player_id" has a difficult time blocking a laming scout or any unit in general. very strange behavior can be seen in the recent AM vs Secret show match in the last game.
@AndrewTheFrank
@AndrewTheFrank 4 года назад
Thanks for bringing this issue up. This would be my argument for not allowing laming. Until this issue is fixed the host would always having laming advantage.
@lanielas
@lanielas 4 года назад
maybe they should make it 1 hit for villagers, but 2 hits for scouts + eagles
@slowlee25
@slowlee25 4 года назад
I dont know why I thought so but this is the first time after years I realized you and spirit of the law arent the same persol lol
@Po3try27
@Po3try27 4 года назад
9:10 ''all that happened to this dirty lamer, ''as we call it''. HAHA T90 so funny, just say it freely brother! I like that about you though hahah
@ananass8030
@ananass8030 4 года назад
Lierey after getting *both* of his boars stolen: "good. Makes it more fair for Mbl"
@ABassOdyssey
@ABassOdyssey 4 года назад
I feel that the ability to steal two boars at once is unfair. I'd like to see the one hit aggro for vills only, not scouts.
@walkermyers3808
@walkermyers3808 4 года назад
I love the more zoomed out look. The more of the map we see the more you can describe the macro decisions, and that is my favorite part
@TheLocoRunner
@TheLocoRunner 4 года назад
Boar stealing is great, its high risk high reward (the scout is so important, so any damage on it from boar stealing is super dangerous) also look at how much hp mbl's scout had after one hit on each boar, it's so close to death. If starcraft 2 taught me anything about meta, it's that players will always find workarounds and new strategies as these tactics emerge and is also ultimately what will keep the game fresh and new as the meta naturally "evolves". Sometimes devs need to step in (*cough cumans cough*), but having meta's change and evolve naturally as players come up with new strategies and counter strategies is so important to the game's longevity as a whole (at least if starcraft 2 is anything to go by). tl;dr: The game should not be forced to maintain a status quo by dev inteference when these new strategies emerge as it stunts meta shifts and counter shifts which will ultimately impact the longevity of the game. (This is based on the longevity of starcraft 2 and how the meta's are constantly changing with only minor tweaks from devs)
@crazyyoco
@crazyyoco 4 года назад
Thats why people dont like it. If he stole only 1 boar the damage to scout would be very small, probably only 1 hit. If you compare it to needind to hit boar 2 times, like before DE, the damage is higher and so its more like high risk high reward, now its just low risk high reward.
@3Dthinker-
@3Dthinker- 4 года назад
I think for Hidden cup 3 let the players play. If they want to lame let them. They can counter lame as well, so even though it may be easier to lame, it is easier for both players.
@Arkanic
@Arkanic 4 года назад
And so the two boar lame comeback will forever be known as Liereyy's revenge.
@Czerwony9999
@Czerwony9999 4 года назад
Let em steal, part of the game
@Hurricane047
@Hurricane047 4 года назад
What's with the "x Years" countdown?
@crazyyoco
@crazyyoco 4 года назад
20:19
@Hurricane047
@Hurricane047 4 года назад
Note to self: commenting before watching the entire video makes you look stupid
@undertyped1
@undertyped1 4 года назад
Moral of this game. Monks are overpowered.
@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism
@Jacks_Suffocating_Nihilism 4 года назад
Not really. Very slow, require micro, and counter knights only. Good for defense: protecting economy or a siege push. Use knights' mobility to avoid and add own monks or spam LC at them.
@KWAkson
@KWAkson 4 года назад
mbl should have lamed the deer as well :)
@joez867
@joez867 4 года назад
video looked great, I always appreciate the interesting games and commentary! thanks T90
@debott4538
@debott4538 4 года назад
Yes! Finally in a resolution that doesn't hurt my eyes when watching full screen. Thank you! :D
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 4 года назад
3:58 why not just push it to the mill? His villagers will have to move but it's closer, for the next push as well.
@michaelbrinkworth2249
@michaelbrinkworth2249 4 года назад
MBL made poor decisions boars don't win the games
@craftyman
@craftyman 4 года назад
9:31 "Mental funk"? You alright?
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 3 года назад
he was probably in love with his now GF. awww
@monkeyboy776
@monkeyboy776 4 года назад
Stealing boars is a skill, you either anticipate and protect or you don't. I would say it's unfair to effectively "lame" a player for having a skill the other players don't prioritise.
@wqeasd7107
@wqeasd7107 3 года назад
it is a random distribution making it purely luck based, so nothing you can really anticipate, no real skill required, minimal micro you get used to if you play multiplayer.
@ACCMAgeOfEmpires2
@ACCMAgeOfEmpires2 4 года назад
what, losing too boar and still win? Kappa
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 4 года назад
This will be known as the game of massive throws, and a caster who went the entire game thinking the Aztecs player were Mayans 11
@1un4cy
@1un4cy 4 года назад
1:30 why are these pigs following the boar
@MichaelMeyerRS
@MichaelMeyerRS 4 года назад
This was the final of viper's mixer matchup right?
@siddhaarthanad479
@siddhaarthanad479 4 года назад
So Mbl did realize Liereyy is going for a counter attack (he spotted it with his scout). Though Mbl was at the time engaged in getting to Liereyy's base in the north, if he had quick walled back at home the time he spotted the attack, could he have averted the disaster?
@187Streak
@187Streak 4 года назад
I NO PIG
@Daplin1
@Daplin1 4 года назад
Does anyone else see blue as purple?
@nostalgicdouchebag1912
@nostalgicdouchebag1912 4 года назад
No laming for HC3 pls (Edit: No scout lame at the very least)
@vitalviral8865
@vitalviral8865 4 года назад
You sound a bit sick T90, everything alright?
@bohemiancasanova5538
@bohemiancasanova5538 4 года назад
I say keep the laming. What else is there to watch for the first few minutes? Map generation and standart build orders? I'll take PIG.
@bohemiancasanova5538
@bohemiancasanova5538 4 года назад
And also one pig steal limit.
@Aeroxima
@Aeroxima 4 года назад
Steal all pig
@derrekirwin9148
@derrekirwin9148 4 года назад
"If he beats this lamer, it'll be talked about for Ages" ... of Empires II
@MIRAAAS
@MIRAAAS 4 года назад
MBL saw the enemy coming for a counter-attack and could have protected his base better with houses and palisade walls... Would’ve been a complete different game
@fastpace101
@fastpace101 4 года назад
I yell I no pig and resign
@el-tioz
@el-tioz 4 года назад
awesome game by Liereyy, can't say when MBL lost his advantage.
@funkygoat15
@funkygoat15 4 года назад
Really enjoying the birds eye view for casting, I feel like you didn't miss as much while talking about eco
@rageagainstthehygiene2357
@rageagainstthehygiene2357 4 года назад
Wait are you talking about banning boar stealing in HC3? NO. Hell no. It already has consequences, and if it is that OP, players can fight to prevent it, or counter-lame. It is a legit strat.
@sleepyalchemist7783
@sleepyalchemist7783 4 года назад
No, laming now does NOT have any consequences in DE. You can ideally lame 2 boars with no HP loss because you only need to hit the boar once to aggro. In Wololo Kingdom, you need 2 hits to do the same, so it's significantly riskier for the lamer. And even then, laming was ... well ... lame, because that does not allow the opponent to showcase the full potential.
@ripperfisher182250
@ripperfisher182250 4 года назад
I'd say limit to 1 lame
@davidgatell9430
@davidgatell9430 4 года назад
@@sleepyalchemist7783 but is an strategy of the game. Are ways to counteract it this game is a good example. The full potential claim is foolish in my opinion because if that is the case strategies like tower rush or persian dutch had to be banned as well and then it becomes like an arena fast castle 100%.
@sleepyalchemist7783
@sleepyalchemist7783 4 года назад
@@davidgatell9430 Give me 1 civ other than Aztecs and Mayans that is capable of coming back after losing 2 boars on Arabia. Laming has been part of competitive scene for a long time, but back then, when you needed 2 hits to aggro a boar, it was at least risky to even lame 1 boar, because you would lose around 10-20 HP. This means the lamer would lose to a direct scout fight, so at least there's tiny compensation for the lamed player. Now in DE, the devs changed this to 1-hit-aggro to allow new players to easily lure boar, but they completely forgot about laming in higher level. Regarding Tower Rush and Persian Douche, both can be actually countered with proper scouting. Take Persian Douche for example, all you really need to do, is scout the opponent, make plenty of houses and palisade walls around your TC, and you should be safe. Even if enemy's TC does go up, just ignore it, and go for counter-attack. Trush is a little more difficult to counter, but it has been balanced for years and is now more or less, not too bad to defend against (except for Incas Trush, that is nasty).
@sleepyalchemist7783
@sleepyalchemist7783 4 года назад
@@davidgatell9430 And about full potential bit, check out this series Viper vs Jordan BO21: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wAgnFYOP4ow.html Both did not lame each other, and that allowed the highest level of game play in the old era (pre Wololo Kingdom).
@LilAlfiq
@LilAlfiq 4 года назад
1440p is 👌 The main thing I was excited for about DE was proper scaling to play it above 1080p without everything being too tiny to read.
@Santibag
@Santibag 4 года назад
Zoom is good. I cannot say comment on the resolution because I have one 720p and one 1440p screen. I watched this on 1440p screen but I think it may be bad in 720p, because texts may be difficult to read. Even your 1080p videos were making texts look bad in 720p. Audio was quite normal.
@yasinceylan2911
@yasinceylan2911 4 года назад
Mbl should improve himself how to do better eco than being sneaky stuff. Basicially he is making himself embarrassing. Welldone lireyyy.
@CasaVoid
@CasaVoid 4 года назад
Maybe HC3 maps should prevent boars from spawning next to each other so double steals are much harder. Related: Here's MbL stealing two boars and three cows from DauT: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uQuGJLwyaPU.html
@boozebeard9501
@boozebeard9501 4 года назад
It's actually a 1400 food swing. One player loses 700 another gains 700, that makes for a difference between them of 1400
@GianniZen
@GianniZen 4 года назад
I think laming shouldn't be banned. It's part of the game and I was kind of missing it in NAC3. However you should also ask the players for their opinions (maybe excluding MBL 11)
@Aeroxima
@Aeroxima 4 года назад
I watch on 720p anyways because internet, but I like the zoom level. Don't understand what allows that compared to what it was before.
@yohanbeck8172
@yohanbeck8172 4 года назад
Impressive game. Did not see this coming. This game was won by next level game sense and playing the map. Something similarily impressive @T90OFFICIAL . 5.2.2020 I watched Dogao play an arena game with Khmer - he went 23 pop feudal - and skipped Feudal completely. He clicked INSTANTLY to castle after getting to feudal. By minute 15 he was close to 50 pop. I have not seen something like that before. It was an arena game with Khmer - crazy cheese strat. I thought T90 might wanna know bout it. Very sick. Greetings from milfhunter_6000 :) Great stuff T90.
@devinberry4001
@devinberry4001 4 года назад
Hey @t90 I'm very much in favor of Hidden Cup 3 NOT having any boar stealing rules!
@davidqueenann8090
@davidqueenann8090 4 года назад
Laming is fair play, but since hidden cup is anonymous and you don't know whether you are up against lamemeister MBL in advance, maybe keep it to one boar? (Oldster).
@dennisskalski1599
@dennisskalski1599 4 года назад
Maybe for tourneys you should only be allowed to lame with vils (like NAC3) but, as far as I'm concerned, laming is a perfectly legit strat. This is a WAR GAME and denying your opponent his/her supplies is a time-honored tactic.
@RTKruithof
@RTKruithof 4 года назад
is 1 hit boar lure too strong? I dont think so, personally. That is just his advantage with the luck MBL had. I mean, the boars were so close together and Lierey got unlucky with his scouting, or he could´ve defended it, cause he expected it cause of the civ-pick. But even in Hidden Cup 3, he could spot it on the minimap.
@callmeswivelhips8229
@callmeswivelhips8229 4 года назад
I always knew laming was stupid. It's such a poor tactic choice in terms of game mechanics available here. But then again maybe it's just poor design??
@SuperJJAlexander
@SuperJJAlexander 4 года назад
A 700 food swing is when you steal one boar, because you gain 350 and the opponent loses. What MbL got is a 1400 food swing.
@lalolanda8458
@lalolanda8458 4 года назад
My hats off to Lierrey. His response was great to that insane lame. I have to say, I would do the same if I was Mbl (how not to take that oportunity!). It was funny. T90: I think the resolution is definitely a positive thing. Looks more similar like Capture Age. About the laming: I think you should allow it. It's another form of strategy. If you don't take into account that a player can do that, how is that anyone faults but yours. The thing is I don't know how involved is the luck factor in this topic. Can you really always defend a lame? If the answer is mostly yes, then allow it. If its too exploitable, then no. More experienced players can give insight on this. For the qualifiers maybe you could allow it, and depending the response, see how it goes from there. PD: Isn't DE great for high apm players? Hera, Hoang, Lierrey, and others, they are all great players, but haven't they improved like crazy since... 4 months ago? I'm pumped for what they'll bring in the future!
@linkon1744
@linkon1744 4 года назад
Since it is quite luck based where your boars spawn and if you can find them before your opponent, it should not be allowed. Then again, it is fun, tilting and a sh*** move, so it should be allowed.
@kemaldemirel1714
@kemaldemirel1714 4 года назад
Unpopular opinion: Boar/sheep laming shouldn't be legal, as its too dependant on luck. Where your boar spawns can decides games and I don't think that is okay. Tough I can see how laming can make the dark age more fun but I think it makes the rest of the game less fun.
@MannElite
@MannElite 4 года назад
For Hidden Cup allow full laming. Its a component of the game. It should be allowed. Every strategy should be allowed. It will also be funny, could add a Role Play element with the player name lol "Alaric has been stealing boars every match" lol since we don't know who the players are. The counter argument would be if they don't fix the TC fire being able to harvest the boars.... because then it would be too easy, at least if that weren't the case you would have to sacrifice a lot of villager HP like MBL did here. It was a good play, and worth, but he did sacrifice a ton of Scout and Villager HP.
@wander_boi69
@wander_boi69 4 года назад
Of course it'd be Mibble to pull off the double boar lure successfully. As much as I'm worried in HC3 there'd be a lot of lames and counter lames, I really want to see it left in for HC3. There is especially the factor that it reflects the player's style whether they go for lames or not, which can be used strategically by the players to try and throw their opponent off or not. In a standard tournament (like NAC3 was) it makes a lot of sense to ban it, but in something like HC3, leaving laming in is just another juicy morsel of "who might be ___?" As for the resolution, looked great to me. I miss Capture Age but it felt like there was more zoom potential.
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