last year my dad was going to get me a bunch of new tools as a small “tool starter kit” and I asked him not to, then i found a used tool store in Pittsburgh and got a complete toolbox FILLED with tools for only $20 it was a dream
A seasonal addition to the list: CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS. My husband and I got into estate sale shopping in the last year, and it is unbelievable how much Christmas stuff is already out there. You can absolutely find Christmas decorations aplenty if you hit up your local estate sales, garage sales, etc. (They are also really good for finding secondhand tools.) Also, when you go looking for things in thrift stores, don't forget about antique stores as an option as well! My local antique store has its own plethora of dishes, mugs, vases, etc.
Exactly! Also, the 'trendy' christmas decorations are usually not my style anyway, and most of the stuff you find in stores is made of plastic instead of glass.
I can’t believe how many people trash their decor after a year and buy new… I have Halloween decor that is 40 years old, plus my Christmas stuff is stuff handed down. It’s so much more meaningful!!!
A few months ago I went to an estate sale and they had two huge room just full of Christmas stuff, some of it look fairly old (like 80s, I’m born in the early 2000s so that’s fairly old for me lol) I didn’t get any bc I don’t celebrate Christmas but my papa bought a lot of things. But like yeah there’s Christmas stuff everywhere second hand that’s still in great condition
I've been using the dish set my parents got for a wedding present in the 70s. My sister's family used it before me, and gifted it when they moved across the country. And the bonus is there are replacements online floating around for those clumsy times I get!
Issue with kids stuff (car seats, cribs, etc.) is all the recalls and safety issues with buying used. I am super bummed out that our kids infant seat can't be resold easily and the local shelters won't take it since they can't guarantee it hasn't been in a crash and we only used it for 7 months. Kids clothes absolutely should be bought used! They grow so dang fast and the BST groups online are awesome.
I am with you on kids gear! Just this week (and for the second time) I had to link the recall info on the Bumbo seat that was recalled in 2012! because it didn't have the safety buckle. It's a shame that Buy Nothing groups allow recalled items because it's an "at your own risk" group. If I hadn't been there to link the info, some unknowing baby could be seriously hurt! I will say I have successfully sold my kid's infant seats on FB Marketplace, but as a "Safety Sally" that I am, I made sure to disclose that it was accident free and the expiration dates are well within a good long-term use timespan, even after I was done with it. With other seats I have just given them away for the Target trade-in event so others can get the 20% off items.
Thankfully, you can buy cribs, high chairs, bibs...I'm having a hard time thinking of baby stuff at the moment. 😅 Point is...you can buy almost everything else secondhand for kids.
It’s so true. Especially baby stuff, they grow out of everything so quickly anyway. Most of my baby’s stuff are gifted, including gears, clothes, blankets, bassinet, high chair etc. Some were bought new. I didnt know that carseat has an expiry date. I only found out much later. Fortunately, the one we have now that’s gifted and expired, is going to be outgrown soon, so I’m on the search for a new one.
So true - I have tried to donate our crib mattress everywhere and no one will take it because it’s a mattress! Breaks my heart, so I still have it because I can’t bring myself to put it out for garbage day.
My parents got a George Forman grill back when they were big in the late 90s early 00s and when I found it and opened it I realized it was BRAND NEW. I have been using it almost weekly since.
I fully endorse not buying stuff new for kids, but may disagree with you a bit about the car. I've been buying my kids clothes and shoes secondhand because seriously, in at most a year they will grow out of it! With regards to the car, I think it is OK to buy new as long as you're not trading it in for a new model after just a few years. My parents bought a brand new car when I was a kid, and my mum drove it for over 20 years! She made sure it was regularly maintained and services and repaired whatever got broken along the way.
We are still driving my (deceased) mother-in-law's car which was built in 1997! It doesn't have any rust on it either! My husband's truck is a 2003 Chevy Silverado!
For real, my grandma bought a truck sometime in the mid to late 90s and my mom bought it from her not too long after I was born. That was around 2003, that truck is still up and running. It’s got a few problems but I come from a poor so everyone knows how to fix something (I sew, so my job is to fix clothes) so I have uncles and a grandpa we just call someone to fix something and either pay them with money or we would fix something for them
I'm 17 and driving now, and the car I drive is just older than I am--it's actually the car I was brought home from the hospital in! My dad knows enough stuff about cars to have kept it running and in good condition for all of this time, and he says there's probably a good 2-3 years left out of it. It's insane to me that my parents have friends who buy new cars every 3-4 years while my parents have managed to make their two cars, both roughly my age, last to this day. They did get a new truck which is also in the rotation because I'm mainly the one driving the aforementioned car, but they both have to go to work, and I'm sure that truck will be well taken care of for a long time.
I think you're missing the point, there's just so many used cars already out there! If you can find a used car that has what you're looking for there's no reason to buy a brand new one!
I bought my first new phone in 2015 for $600, it finally gave up this year & I bought one on trademore for a fraction of the price. 🤣 I can't believe that I almost considered spending $1200 on a new phone...
Yess adopt don’t shop! And since you mentioned it, can we get a video about how to be sustainable with pets? I have such a hard time since food/litter/etc comes packaged
And needing to use plastic bags to dispose of their bowel movements. Does anyone know a less wasteful way to take care of a cat’s bathroom needs? Without having to ensure that your compost reaches a certain temperature?
@@ckdraws410 The most sustainable way I could think of is using a litter genie. it still is with a plastic bag but it does keep in the smell so you don't have to throw away the bag until it is actually full. i wish there was a better way though
I’m a teacher, and I’m constantly “rescuing” all the plastic shopping bags that get thrown away there for my cat litter. I’ll scoop into the same bag for four or five days before I throw it out. I leave it in the garage so the smell isn’t a problem. It’s not perfect, but it’s the best system I’ve found.
I bought my dishes before college at a garage sale. 17 years later and they're still going great. My spouse wanted to register for new ones for our wedding and I explained why it's not necessary. Also, I've never ever bought a mug for myself, I've just wound up with a ton of them as gifts.
Thrifting is the best! 🤩 I found a standing mirror with storage for jewellery for $30 (instead of $120) and a very trendy picnic basket that I'll take with me everywhere because I love picnics for $100 (instead of $200). The patience really pays off when you find an article you've had your eye on 😝
Always love yours videos! I’m in animal rescue and would love to hear the topic of pets talked about more. So many die in shelters or homes less outside. Many people don’t know the importance of spaying and neutering and many don’t know there are eco friendly options for pet supplies.
I use Mercari to sell stuff we don't use anymore. Sold a breast pump that just did not work for me which allowed me to recoup some of the money. I love Mercari's save search feature so it alerts me when a specific item I'm looking for is up for sale. Literally bought a nursing dress in the exact style I wanted within an hour of the seller posting it because of that feature lol. I love it
I’ve gotten SO MANY free working iPhones from friends/family and resold them. Somehow $800++ phones are considered disposable it’s crazy. Maybe I have to do minor repairs that I learned how to do on RU-vid
The car thing completely shocked me. My car was originally my mom’s, and it’s from 1999. I don’t plan on getting a new car until this one falls apart-it’s a Toyota, so it’ll be a looooong time lol
I am always in awe when people talk about changing cars every few years, buying the car of the year... my parents always bought second hand, and only changed cars when really necessary. They usually lasted for many years, and as kids we'd even name the cars, making them part of the family haha
This resonated with me, back home my grandma gave me my grandpa’s car from 1995… it was my college car, and although I don’t use it anymore that car it’s still ALIVE! My “new” car is a 2012 model, used 🙌🏻
I love thrifting for clothes, and I also have a lot of fabric so I’ve been making my own clothes when I can! Sewing is black great hobby and really beneficial to the eco community!!!
It makes sense in the context of the global north. In Colombia for example it is really hard to get good things second-hand. Because families use their stuff till it falls apart literally or give it down to people directly. Everyone knows a person who needs, what you don't. There is no such thing as an abundance of second-hand. It is not accessible. So buying new and good quality in a minimum quantity is the way to go. To have a second hand, you need to have consumerism. Also, a good way to buy new is to buy from small producers, handmade items and products.
When I lived in an apartment I use to always check by the garbage area to see if there was anything good there. At least people were nice to put it by the trash can and not in it!
All my dishes and cutlery (and my kitchen table) came from a beloved local teahouse that was closing down. I love being sustainable and having a little piece of my town's history at home.
My only issue with clothes is finding my size second hand. I was lucky so far this year and found one pair of pants and a pair of boots... the entire year. I still try but if I can't find it, and need it, I buy it new.
Yes. It might be hard to find size wise just because its an uncommon size or just where your located. I have the same issue. But i think the main takeaway I get from her channel is to at least TRY to thrift it if you need it before buying new. You already said that you at least try which is helpful in and of itself because some people just buy, buy, buy, without ever trying to thrift at all.
There’s the smallest thrift store I’ve ever seen just minutes from our house, and I stepped inside for the first time the day before Mother’s Day. Got my husband’s mom and my mom decorative plates that they both loved (Also got some artisan chocolates from a small chocolate shop down the street). A forgetful couple needing gifts led to some good thrift store finds that meant a lot more than some generic cards (at least to me. I hope our moms weren’t just being polite).
Tw: child abuse I would buy ethical sweaters new for a kid, but that can be used as a hand me down for other kids in the family. It’s so hard to get my family to thrift or even share things, because my great grandmother would give my grandma, aunts and uncles beatings for sharing friends clothes. It’s been a lot to get my mother to let me thrift( I am a teen) and her mother just started to warm up to getting a thrifted coat. Even unused swimwear is out of the question rn. I’m glad to have made any progress with them at all, honestly. It’s so hard for people to unlearn things, especially if they are not willing, or they associate this experience with trauma,
I like to buy pyrex cake pans and dishes when i find them REALLY cheap at a thrift store or yard sale (like under $2) and use those to deliver food to postpartum or sick friends instead of using disposable foil pans or tupperware. I just tell them to keep it and not worry about returning it and it was cheaper than the foil pans!
Completely agree with you except for one subset of clothing. Undergarments. They wear out and I won't wear underwear someone else has worn. But I have gotten brand new ones in thrift shops. 2nd hand bras may not be in good enough condition anymore either, but that goes with any type of garment.
I’ve had my phone for almost 3 years and I just had to get a new one because they couldn’t replace my battery properly. They gave me the phone for the price of the battery but I was really disappointed that I thought I was making the sustainable choice and it ended up not helping at all :(
Hey Shelbi, I love your content and really appreciate the work you put into it. At the risk of asking you to perform more labor, do you mind organizing your videos with the labeled timestamps that youtube now has? I'm not sure exactly what they are called but I have seen many youtubers now do this, especially with videos that list things like yours tend to. It is very helpful for my attention span to be able to see a breakdown of things covered in a video, and I am sure others would find it useful as well. Thank you for doing what you do!!
I've done some pretty wild college move out dumpster diving, but also there's a GREAT thrift store in town that sells people's FULL dish sets (also with like gravy boats and all that all in their wacky prints) for like $40! But yeah my friend and I were always talking about buying crazy mugs at the thrift store, making them into candles, and selling them for eco fun!
This video is perfect timing because I was thinking of putting a new humidifier on my Christmas wish list but I talked to my mom first and she has one that she doesn't use
How do people feel about the fact that cholesterol from animals is used to make lcd screens for phones & laptops and also animal products also used in making tyres?
It's disgusting, because it causes so much unnecessary harm to animals and causes an even BIGGER environmental issue than just using synthetic chemicals.
I had no idea that it was even a thing! A local dairy farmer was doing video on the tons of products he gets to feed his cows from the production of soya and he mentioned that a lot of people don't know that it gets used in making these items!
Loving this list Shelbi! I’ve never bought dishes, mugs, cups and silverware. I get hand me downs from family and I’m happy!! There’s so much treasures at yard sales and thrift shops. I usually keep my car for about 10-16years until the engine blows before I get another. We really do live in a materialistic world and need reminders!
I use my grannies crockery, tea sets, pans, dishes, cookware, glasses. They're years old plus and made to last. as a former cook for the generals in WW2 she passed them on through the family. Still going strong, nostalgic and robust ......
Oh my goodness- if everyone could think like this about dishes!! SO TRUE. I’ve thought about this so many times. “they never have to be created again!!” Yes!!🔥
I love second hand clothing but because more people are doing it where I live, the second hand stores raise their prices so you are paying the same price as an item you would get brand new and the clothing item is most of the time something that would have been sold in stores anywhere from 2-10 years ago
I used to get rid of my phones when I was due for an upgrade every two years. I’ve had my current phone for coming up to 3 years and am keeping it until it dies on me at which point I’ll take it to a tech recycler
I wish I could go to an American thrift store! Ours are very small in the U.K. by comparison. I covet those gorgeous dishes, especially the Pyrex oven dishes. They should be cherished!
My financial situation has always dictated that I canr buy new. Over the years I've fallen in love with the fact that used is still good! And its helping our planet, so I'm all for it! My last phone I had more than 5 years! It finally kicked the bucket this year
we have 7 mugs in our house that has 2 of us living in it. 2 large ones that were both gifts, 3 small ones that were gifts and 2 small ones that i bought second hand. oh and i have 1 more mug that is repurposed, has cat grass growing in it. :)
My husband and I rarely get new electronics, we wait until they die. Our smart TV is from 2013, our kindle fire is from 2012, laptop is from 2008. My husband built us a new desktop this year to replace our desktop from 2011. Our cell phones are iPhone 7 Plus that we bought new with cash. Our next phones will be refurbished, my iPhone is starting to really slow down and not hold a charge. I’ll keep it until it dies.
Even new clothing that doesn’t sell at some retail stores is thrown away and goes to the landfill. They even destroy it before throwing it in their dumpster.
I agree with the kids items but please if you buy a used car seat check the expiration date! And ensure to the best of your ability that it has not been in an accident.
I intend to replace my phone approaching 5yo in a few months. Guess it could be more busted, but can be a bit annoying to use. Kinda conflicted because I’d love to buy 2nd hand, it even saves money, but knowing I like a 5 year replacement rate, I’d also want a current model
I really would like to buy my clothes second hand, but the size is a problem. When I was in a smaller body there was no problem, but in a bigger body finding stuff new let alone second hand is really hard.
I would love to see this video that you mentioned at 12:20: ""I can make a whole video about how frustrating Culture in the US is, or should I say Lack of Culture: Our culture is literally... To Be Wasteful." I completely agree with you, and I think there is a lot to be said about this. I wish we could be done with the trends and go back to building a beautifully diverse culture in the US. It's like our country is in this perpetually teenage phase of going through things with no thought or care and just won't grow up. Although I am very hopeful about the long-term effects of the Inflation Reduction Act and Clean Energy Act on our climate and culture! 🌎💕
The thrift stores you have in your area are amazing. The ones that I've been to here in Reno aren't that great. It makes me sad because I want to buy seconhand and just end up doing marketplace when I rather go to a thrift store.
I don't think I've ever bought a mug in my life. Every mug in my house is either a gift or a souvenir for various events. I get like at least one mug a year. I literally never have to buy them new
In January this year I made the decision to do a whole year of no fast fashion and no new clothes unless they're second hand (or from a sustainable brand). The year is almost up and honestly... I'm just going to continue with this... Its made this year super cheap and also you don't run the risk of wearing the same thing as every other human being on the planet... Aside from the environmental issues (which are obviously very important to me), one of the things that bugged me the most about buying clothes from popular stores is the amount of clones walking around town wearing the same thing 😅. Now I get asked "where did you get that top its so cute" and I have to smugly tell them that it was from a charity shop and they probably won't be able to find the same one anywhere 😂
In 14 years of living in this beautiful country a year ago we bought our first sofa, we always had second-hand we only have to clean and disinfect them well.
What hurts most about tech is that buying used is $700 out of pocket but new through my phone plan is $700 divided between 24 months which is more financially doable for me... I do however wait to "upgrade" until I absolutely need to
So some of these things are very different in countries like mine, which are classed as third world countries. I VERY rarely see kitchen gadgets in any thrift stores here because repairing gadgets until they can't be used anymore is huge business here.
There are some places here in the United States where you can get kitchen gadgets repaired, but honestly the price of repair is usually about the same price as getting a new thing, so between that + the convenience factor, most people just end up buying stuff new. Also, a lot of gadget designs here in the states are specifically made so you can't reach the stuff that fritzes out first. In Europe that have something called a "right to repair" where gadget designs have to make it possible to repair, but we don't have that here in the United States. It's upsetting.
Personally we pass down cellphones in my family. I’m at a point in my life both personal and career-wise I need newer phones. My retired parents don’t. So every few years I upgrade my phone, and I buy the top of the line model. Rationale is it will stay competitive longer than a lower tier phone. I pass my phone down to my dad or mom, depends on who needs a newer phone most. Few years later we repeat that process. So every two years everyone gets a new phone, but each individual phone gets a 6 year lifecycle. In that time if an accident hasn’t destroyed them the battery is at the end of its useful lifespan. I keep up-to-date phones, my parents get phones for free, and each phone is used to it’s maximum potential.
I dont know if you read the comments or accept suggestions but if so, can you do a video on how to clean/sanitize used items naturally/easily/etc? I know of course you could just dump chemicals all over but I was wondering if you had any better options to make sure things are completely clean and sanitized! After covid thats been stopping me from buying second hand.
Waste from knocking down houses doesn't tend to go to landfill. A lot of the materials get sent off to recycling plants and used as hardcore for cement mixes and things like that. At least that's how the company I work for deals with building waste. Renovations are also very recourse heavy and generate more waste than you'd think. It's definitely a case by case basis on which is better environmentally. There's a lot of new developments in eco building that can't really be applied to old buildings. The whole construction industry is massively environmentally destructive though, there isn't really much to be done about it other than choosing the least bad option when you can.
Oooooft, I have a rant here, so before I get into it let me say this: For each example in this video there exists a very specific edge case when you could obviously very reasonably justify "buying the new thing". This is almost always the case with these kind of lists, and I don't neccessarily think that this is a problem. The truth is that majority of these points will resonate with majority of people. And if watching this video made you *stop and think* and go full circle back to "no, in my particular circumstance I do need to purchase this thing new" then it probably already achieved it's goal. Because 9/10* times, when someone stops and thinks, they realise the second-hand alternative is indeed a viable option. So you may have to respectfully disagree on one point or the other, but in the grand scheme of things Shelbi's done a good job :) Unfortunately, there is one point on this video that struck a chord with me so strongly, I might go as far as to say that in my personal opinion it should not be included here: HOMES. Now the main reason for that is that the topic of housing is complex and nuanced in a way that the other items on the list are not. I understand that this is not exactly what you said, but even just including homes on the list sends the message that we don't need to build new houses. And we most absolutely do. Given that the Earth's population is constantly increasing, we need to build houses so that people can have roof over their head. I am afraid that including homes on such a list feeds into the rampant NIMBY mentality of "supporting develpment unless it's happening in my neighbourhood". Even looking at the example you gave. If someone buys a house that could be renovated, but decides to just tear it down and replace it in a way that provides no added value to the society - then I 100% agree with you - shame on them. But, let's not forget that land is also a limited resource. If there is a dilapidated bungalow that can be replaced with a bigger building (maybe a semi-detached, maybe a small apartment building) so it now houses more than one family on the same amount of land - I would say that's pretty good. That doesn't mean that all is now justified in the name of "we need more housing". There are indeed plenty of misdoings among property developers (especially those run by big corporations). And there are maaaany things to be talked in terms of when we do go ahead with new building developments (and that's a when, not an if - which is again why I think homes is different from other items on your list) we do it in a good way. And that encompasses a variety of topics such as walkable neighbourhoods, ditching car dependency, using better** materials, energy efficiency of buildings etc. In the end of the day, and this is just my opinion so I'm open to people disagreeing on that, buying your home brand new vs on the secondary property market isn't even the most impactful housing decision that you can make. And aaaaaaall that, assuming that you have a lot of control over your housing decisions, rahter than them being dictated by the ruthless property market. So arguably, for MAJORITY of people housing is rarely a matter of choice. And that is a huge issue. And that's why I don't think it belongs on this list. Thank you to literally anyone who read the whole thing! Love the rest of the content. __________________________________________________________________________ *Disclaimer: This is a figure of speech and not an actual statistic :P **Better doesn't mean much, but this post was already too long. What I mean by better here, is a number of things such as "reclaimed when possible", "high quality so that they won't need replacing in 5 years", "with good insulation properties, so less energy is required to heat" etc..
The clothes thing… like, I’m jealous lol. In my country, we barely have thrift stores. I’m living right now in one of the bigger cities and there’s only 4 or 5 small second hand clothes store. In my hometown? Ha.
I could definitly make more of an attempt to buy used tech... I always use the phones i have til i cant use them any more tho... i hate phone shopping....
Loads of great ideas here. I live in England where we have charity shops (like your thrift stores) but there isn’t a great selection of kitchen stuff, sadly. It’s very time consuming to check them all. That said I endeavour to keep checking!
Big yes to second hand kids stuff! I got so much stuff second hand! It is all great and so much cheaper! Bassinet, crib, chest of drawers, changing table, clothes, car seat, breast pump, baby carriers, swing, toys etc. No need to buy it new when these things are only used for a short while anyway!!
And why do dishes HAVE to match? I had tons of fun buying dishes at the thrift store and they are from different companies and patterns. I make sure my dishes co-ordinate, but not match
I can and preserve my own food. And mason jars have been continuously hard to find in my area. So I bought in bulk and will continue using them in my house until they go to thrift lmao
Sometimes I don’t think I’m a good eco minimalist, but upon reflecting while watching this video, I don’t think I have bought anything new in the past few years except for undergarments and some gifts for people. I do just try to give people regifted stuff though. Dishes and clothes have been from thrift stores, one of my grandmas recently had to downsize so she gave me a whole bunch of kitchen stuff. Shoes for myself and for my other grandma I have bought used. Oh and my former coworkers have given me clothes for me niece and she also likes wearing her brother’s old shirts 💚
I try shopping second hand for almost everything now that I'm in the UK. However, second hand stores are not everywhere. My home country doesn't really have second hand shops for anything other than clothes and even those are very bad quality because bigger countries dump their sh*t there since it's a poorer country.
Thats why I switched ti iPhone in fact. Prior to that, I literally had to change my phone every 2 years, because they became unusable, slow, it took half a minute to open an app on them. I bought an iPhone SE 6 (!!!!) years ago and I still use it! They made to last. It became a bit slower but nothing that would stop me from using it. I see its going to its end and I even broke a little the screen, but I feel I just dont want to replace it until it works. One very good quality phone can last longer. Meanwhile my brother kept buying cheap chinese brands and he had to throw them away every other year cause they stopped working.
Just want to give a shout-out to Buy Nothing groups. I almost never buy clothes for my son and when he grows out of them I give them away again. Babies only wear clothes for 3 months max!!
I really want to caution people on buying dishes from the thrift store without doing research. Many old dishes can have unhealthy levels of lead in them as lead levels were completely unregulated in dishware until about 1971!
Ever since I learned about all the horrific child labor that goes on in mining the cobalt for the lithium-ion batteries in smart phones, I vowed I wouldn't get a new phone until my current was literally unusable.
Do you have any tips for those of us who are unable to access stores in a physical sense? A lot of these tips (whilst great!) are reliant upon physically going to a store, thrift shop or picking up items from others. I really try to cut down on buying new, but the availablity of second hand items online that are deliverable is limited, and often sold at massively extortionate prices that is just not affordable
Be careful with old kitchen gadgets/dishes. You can test ceramics for lead content (Grands dishes may have lead paint) and you’ll want to make sure you’re not using rusted/lead kitchen gadgets. Be frugal, be safe! :)
Any clothes I buy, like any, I always use until I can’t anymore. And after I can’t use it, if it’s still in good condition, I pass it on to someone in my family who can. And after they can’t it just keeps going. Soon enough we donate it and if it’s in a unwearable condition only then we throw it out.
For years I’ve been buying my dishes , bowls, Coffee mugs, glassware , utensils, vacuum cleaners, lamps, my list goes on I really enjoyed buying secondhand because today’s style everything looks the same and I just can’t stand that when you go to the thrift store you can’t find anything your heart desires.
I know this is irrelevant, my eye was just caught on your beautiful home modeling that skirt. I’m willing to bed that wall paint is called absolute gray. We have the exact same color in our home 😂
I disagree on not buying new car seats specifically. Car seats have expiration dates; the safety materials in them go bad. Sharing a car seat within a family or friend group until it expires is one thing; buying it used when you don't know how old it is is quite a different thing. Also always check recalls!!! Most things don't need to be bought new, but when it comes to kids' safety (and safety in general), be really careful.
i have never owned a apple phone that said i have always bought refurbished android phones and used them til death. thanks for the new way to buy. a new very small thrift store opened in my town and it had a 6 foot long 4 shelf shelf of nothing but coffee mugs. loaded and stacked 3 high.....i got a complete 12 cup Christmas coffee mug set for 5 dollars checked online and it was worth $50.00 so..... You have to buy car seat and Childs shoes new.. if a car seat has been in an accident it is faulty unless you can prove it has not been, and shoes are bad if the child before had a problem with his shape of his foot it will transfer to the new child. ( I have 4 grown children).
Car seats shouldn't be used because you don't know if they been in a wreck or not. Once they are wrecked they are trash regardless if the baby is in them or not. But convertible one last 10 years.
