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@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Mannimarco & the Worm Cult
@aran.m977
@aran.m977 2 года назад
Yes pls
@TheFathomlessUnknown
@TheFathomlessUnknown 2 года назад
Facts
@TwoMenInACloset
@TwoMenInACloset 2 года назад
They have that yall are tripping
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@TwoMenInACloset You are mistaken. Otherwise provide a link.
@knoxknifemods
@knoxknifemods 2 года назад
Excellent idea!
@ramenshino
@ramenshino 2 года назад
I like the realism of the third era, it’s extremely hard to keep an empire unified for centuries. As Kyle Harper said, whats amazing about the Roman Empire is the longevity despite all it had to endure
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 2 года назад
Also makes it more dense, since it's comparatively short and has significantly more lore to it
@dstrkt.cs2
@dstrkt.cs2 2 года назад
The romans had an emphasis on provincial and local governments, that is what allowed them to stay together as an empire for as long as they did. The romans were definitely more politically advanced in comparison to the septim dynasty.
@michaeltelson9798
@michaeltelson9798 Год назад
You could also see the same with the British dynasty from Edward IV. He is considered the bastard by an archer especially since his pregnancy was 10 months in duration and his father was in France during the key period. The present heir of the alternate line lives in Australia and doesn’t give a hoot about being king.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Morihaus & the Minotaurs (Minotaurs: Hircine's man-beasts or Kyne's divine warriors?)
@cadencumming7795
@cadencumming7795 2 года назад
100% agree
@MoonMoverGaming
@MoonMoverGaming 2 года назад
I read that last line with the voice of J. Jonah Jameson
@ethanfaiello2373
@ethanfaiello2373 2 года назад
Podcast idea: Uriel Septim Will he ever conquer the big sad? 😔
@maxmurray6680
@maxmurray6680 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Cameron Dynasty (and why Glarthir is secretly the true ruler of Valenwood?)
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Blackreach (Dwemers, Falmer, Vampiric Night Lords, and other mysteries)
@georgejennings8743
@georgejennings8743 2 года назад
This is a good video idea
@nappa3550
@nappa3550 2 года назад
I'd definitely like to learn some mysteries about Blackreach.
@Gardiken
@Gardiken 2 года назад
The werewolf isn't what makes Pelagius III go mad! It's written in Wolf Queen Vol. 8 that Potema, in her OLD AGE (She also didn't disguise herself as an old crone, she WAS an old crone at this point) takes the amulet with the werewolf soul to the Solitude Mages' Guild and has them release the werewolf's soul while also enchanting the necklace to have a curse on it. That curse is what makes Pelagius III go crazy.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Psijic Order (A lot of mystery from these magicians)
@keith7671
@keith7671 2 года назад
I would love to watch a podcast in the psijic if they have enough foundation for it
@shinon748
@shinon748 Год назад
@@keith7671 there's enough now with what ESO added
@parodysam
@parodysam 2 года назад
“The emperor is the Dragonborn’s son” *cough* Hearthfire *cough*
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Dagoth Ur & the Sixth House (The topic was barely touched in the Great House podcast)
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Vivec & Almalexia (Scott alone could make a Vicec podcast into three parts with each part running more than four hours)
@MathiasWashburne
@MathiasWashburne 2 года назад
Yeah, maybe it's just me, but if they're going to make a Sotha Sil episode, they should eventually make Vivec and Almalexia episodes too.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@MathiasWashburne I personally assume they are putting it off, because the topic is too big and complex for them to go off of memory in a podcast format. Just read the 36 lessons of Vivec to understand the undertaking.
@MathiasWashburne
@MathiasWashburne 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 Yeah, IIRC they've discussed the idea of Vivec on multiple podcasts, including a separate session just for the 36 Lessons. An Almalexia episode would be nice to get soon because it's already been six months since Sotha Sil's, but Vivec won't come for quite a while.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@MathiasWashburne It must be the Mandela Effect, because I swear I heard an Almalexia podcast already. It is overdue, because she is a fascinating character is often overshadowed by Sotha Sil and Vivec.
@MathiasWashburne
@MathiasWashburne 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 ru-vid.com/group/PLt4dvC3zSbYDv5nI3FPR3VncQWSiSKRMW Just checked, no Almalexia episode yet.
@timothy8428
@timothy8428 2 года назад
By the time TES VI arrives we'll be in the next Kalpa and everyone will be like "Wow, what is this crazy new IP?"
@Scotttjt
@Scotttjt 2 года назад
Podcast about Pelinal Whitestrake. Or maybe one that covers the knight orders of Tamriel. I know you guys did a video about the subject a while back, but I think it's still an interesting topic.
@edenromanov
@edenromanov 2 года назад
Haven't watched you guys in a couple of months, CONGRATS ON THE 1 MILLION SUBS FELLAS! To celebrate I'll binge watch every video I missed 👍😁👍
@tiltalot3759
@tiltalot3759 2 года назад
Podcast idea: Summerset islands' future - how is every High elf's life changing since the Thalmor have taken over
@toddkeyser4254
@toddkeyser4254 2 года назад
I'd like to see you guys go over the Tharn family tree
@EJDubbz
@EJDubbz 2 года назад
This
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T6xdVqzTyNc.html
@toddkeyser4254
@toddkeyser4254 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 thanks I had forgotten about this video but I still think it would be entertaining to have a podcast discussion about them
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@toddkeyser4254 It is an old video, so it didn't cover the new stuff about Abnur and his half-sister.
@toddkeyser4254
@toddkeyser4254 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 I haven't played ESO since the markarth dlc so I wasn't even aware of the new stuff I should probably get back into it I heard black wood was really good and the Breton dlc looks good too
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Uriel Septim is an overrated Emperor. The Empire wouldn't be covered in bandits if he wasn't constantly releasing criminals from prison in hope that the criminals will save the Empire.
@adrianbaisden7655
@adrianbaisden7655 2 года назад
in all fairness at least 3 worked and 2 completely saved nirn and 1 him
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@adrianbaisden7655 Even a broken clock is right a twice a day
@sam_v_murray6037
@sam_v_murray6037 2 года назад
brudda how many comments did you make on this video
@adrianbaisden7655
@adrianbaisden7655 2 года назад
@@sam_v_murray6037 just 1
@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201
@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 2 года назад
To be fair the bandits would eventually be killed by the 3 that he was right on.
@bobfrancis123
@bobfrancis123 2 года назад
I’ve been listening to the Esoterica RU-vid Channel and his Introduction to the Kabbalah series really makes me realize the writers of the Monomyth and lot of Morrowind’s lore had some understanding of the weirder parts of ancient philosophies and magical thought. A podcast (way down the line because of the necessary research) looking at the Philosophies Of The Elder Scrolls may be interesting!
@Im-Not-a-Dog
@Im-Not-a-Dog 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: An episode about all the Mortals that have become Gods, Demigods, and Daedra, and how they did it, as well as what they've done/influenced after becoming Gods.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
The term you are looking for is the *Psijic Endeavor* -- the process by which mortals are charged with transcending the gods that created them.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
I wonder if the Thalmor hate Rajhin as much as Talos. The idea of a Khajiit obtaining godhood through thievery must be incredibly offensive to the elven supremacists.
@isabelleroy3692
@isabelleroy3692 2 года назад
I watch every video I can get my paws on and I still don’t understand shit, but I love listening to y’all and feeling involved in dissecting the history and lore! Appreciate your hard work ❤️
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Auri-El vs Akatosh (Next to the Deadra Princes, the Dragon God is the most involved God in the universe.)
@AnonymousAnonposter
@AnonymousAnonposter 2 года назад
I want this one, I believe Akatosh is Auri-el "corrupted" by Lorkhan ideals and humanity.
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад
@@AnonymousAnonposter True. Akatosh is "the time god" with aspects of Lorkhan's ideals. A time god that also serves as a Patron god to the Empire of Man. A bastardozation made by Allesia to give Lorkhan a friendly time god buddy to have. Marukhati Selective gave ma boi Auriel a massive migraine 😢
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад
@Incapacitating Strike Precisely. An Et'Ada that combines aspects of Time and aspects of Lorkhan's ideals
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@AnonymousAnonposter "Some say Alduin is Akatosh, some say M'aiq is a Liar. Don't you believe either of those things."
@cesardl.6093
@cesardl.6093 Год назад
It is not really known if the empire withdrew its troops from Morrowins in the crisis of oblivion. Ocato literally says in Oblivion that the empire's troops are overstretched and he can't bring them to Cyrodill. There are 2 versions, the version of Ocato and Oblivion and the version of the dunmer of Morrowind (coincidentally from a house that has historically been reluctant to the empire), also in Oblivion and you can hear generic rumors from among the citizenry about how the Legion is stretched across the Empire: ''I hear that those Oblivion Gates are opening everywhere. They say the Legion is stretched to the limit across the Empire."
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Beyond Skyrim (w/ guest) (Some of the Beyond Skyrim teams are trying to promote interest in their projects, so maybe a team leader will do an interview.)
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Smash or Pass II?
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
I second this! They are putting in so much work on these, & I think I am looking forward to these even more than the future next game.
@chemputer
@chemputer 2 года назад
Oblivion NPC dialogue: "The emperor has been assassinated, and with no heirs! That's never happened before." Bro.
@pepesaur3874
@pepesaur3874 2 года назад
“My brother in talos, you live in Cyrodiil. Surely you know this?”
@elblah9721
@elblah9721 Год назад
The Elder Scrolls Podcast, prior to the Fudge Muppet dragon break, the format change, & Drewmora on a pilgrimage to seek Chim. Is this what being Well-Rested feels like?
@aran.m977
@aran.m977 2 года назад
You still need to do the podcast on Hammerfell
@kp6669
@kp6669 2 года назад
Podcast idea: Kothringi.
@rustysponge3398
@rustysponge3398 2 года назад
Thought this was just a video, then I realized it's a whole podcast and now I feel great lol 🐑
@philipebanks2125
@philipebanks2125 2 года назад
Saaaammmeeeee !
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Tiber Septim & Talos (Everyone loves heroes and conspiracies.)
@mattyschell1973
@mattyschell1973 2 года назад
I dont know if it's cuz it's a hazy morning or I got a comfortable sleep or what, but damn if hearing that music and "what is up ladies and gentlemen..." isnt exactly the perfect start to today
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Creation Club (Best & Worst Additions)
@aran.m977
@aran.m977 2 года назад
The Empire of Tiber Septim was a different kind,nearly all of Tamriel was conquered but with so many provinces under you control you take all the trouble of them with you.
@igncom1
@igncom1 2 года назад
We need to return to an empire where sometimes people just transform into minotaurs. We need a minotaur emperor.
@denisrivarola2387
@denisrivarola2387 2 года назад
Allright, you made us wait 2 weeks for this Sunday weed n coffee dudes, I was worried. Hi from Uruguay as always, ty for existing ♪
@gerbenvanegmond4007
@gerbenvanegmond4007 2 года назад
I had a great time listening to this while making dinner, thank you so much!
@pepesaur3874
@pepesaur3874 2 года назад
Been waiting for a new episode of Fudgemuppet delving into all the lore and turn it into a weekly existential crisis. All the jokes aside, great to see you guys still keeping our love for Elder Scrolls alive. In terms of an episode idea, I’d definitely be interested in an episode talking about your ideas of alternate Elder Scrolls history. Perhaps each pitches an idea and then all three discuss what would come of it? Example: “What if the Orcs had managed to keep Orsinium and hold it from the multiple invasions.” Would be great to see you delve into theories and what could have happened.
@mastergsmersmh7380
@mastergsmersmh7380 2 года назад
Nothing better than playing skyrim while listening to a new Elder Scrolls Podcast
@flawless_Cowboy
@flawless_Cowboy 2 года назад
on god- i mean on akatosh
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Dawnguard vs Volkihar (Pick a side)
@XDivineSouljax
@XDivineSouljax 9 месяцев назад
Elder Scrolls 6 will be about restoring the Empire (the only thing stopping the Dominion from conquering everything and stopping the Thalmor from ending the world
@burebor9940
@burebor9940 2 года назад
Fun fact: "Hjalti" roughly means "man from Hjaltland" (Hjaltland = Shetland). "Hjalti" may also mean "man of the hilt/shaft" (as in the "hilt" of a sword). (This name is still used as Hjalti, Hjalta or Hjalte, depending on Nordic country in Europe). If it is not obvious, "Hjalti" is of Norse origin, which (as we know) is the main inspiration for the Nords in the Elder Scrolls universe. But "Hjalti Earlybeard" in Elder Scrolls Universe is supposed to be a 'Breton'? But having a very Nord-like name? Could it then be that this "Hjalti Earlybeard" is of mixed Nordic-Breton origin (where he has some Breton blood, but uses a Nordic name), or just a Nord from High Rock? Food for thought...
@wanderingshade8383
@wanderingshade8383 2 года назад
I'm fairly certain its that he's a Breton who lived in Skyrim for an extended period of time, and probably/definitely had some Nordic family
@ryanhenderson225
@ryanhenderson225 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Underrated/Pet NPCs and why you love em
@celionovais6273
@celionovais6273 2 года назад
About the last minutes of the video, the Dark Elves are even more weaker than the Empire itself. Red Mountain eruption, the prior disapearence of the tribunals, the oblivion crisis and the argonian invasion, they are not at the position to fight against anyone for Independence, including the Empire, maybe the successful rebelion of the Redguards against the High Elves and the rebelion in Skyrim against the Empire could give them some inspiration, but there's no doubt that they are in a more weaker position than the Redguards and the Nords. My theories, the "last" Dragonborn becomes the new Emperor/Empress (it doens't matter which side he/she joined, the Stormcloaks or the Empire) and at least all the mannish provinces + Morrowind were maintaned or reconquered by this new Empire. Problably the Redguards becomes reunited with the Empire without resistance if him/herself restored the Cult of Talos and lead a war against the Aldmeri Dominion, and of course, the Redguards would be weakend because of the War against the Aldmer (a war that extended even after the White-Gold Concordat), as well as the Nords would be weakened from the Civil War. I don't know if he/she would achieve to reunify the entirity of the Empire at its peak, but at least all the mankind would be united under his/her banner, the Argonians may kept their independence (and let's be honest, even before the Oblivion Crisis, in practice they already were independent) as well as the Elves with the exception of Morrowind for the reasons I already explained in the first paragraph.
@arcane3464
@arcane3464 2 года назад
Podcast idea : Atmora...
@chillievans
@chillievans 2 года назад
Whos to say the dragonborn could procreate? Maybe the dragonborn is infertile. I mean .... Hearthfire canonises the fact that he/she ADOPTED children
@nuclearlefthook5008
@nuclearlefthook5008 2 года назад
The reason children are adopted is literally because they didn't want to bother or saw the need to create a pregnancy system/sex or whatever. I would definitely say it's one of those things that's up to the player. It's headcanon, like whether the Champion of Cyrodill mantled and became Sheogorath (Which was confirmed by Michael Kirkbride, stating it was in the original design documents for Shivering Isles).
@aisha-no4st
@aisha-no4st 2 года назад
been watching since the start in 2013, i was only a kid and now im an adult! congrats on the 1mil guys :D
@Wahatoyas
@Wahatoyas 2 года назад
Do a video on the dunmer empress of Cyrodiil
@dankseid3793
@dankseid3793 2 года назад
There was a Dunmer Empress? How did that come to pass?
@Wahatoyas
@Wahatoyas 2 года назад
@@dankseid3793 look it up, empress Katariah was a dunmer
@lazilycatharticone4191
@lazilycatharticone4191 2 года назад
This is ripped from the Unofficial ElderScrolls Wiki: Empress Katariah, born Katariah *Ra'athim,* was part of a prominent Ebonheart family, and she had been Duchess of Vvardenfell before she was married in 3E 141, to Pelagius Septim III, who was then ruler of Solitude (though they would go on to become Emperor and Empress). The unusual union was thought to have occurred both to cement Imperial relations with Ebonheart and because Emperor Magnus hoped Katariah, who was known for her shrewdness, could help conceal the eccentricities of his son Pelagius. Katariah was awarded the regency of Tamriel in 3E 147. The Empress Regent of Tamriel was proclaimed Empress Katariah I upon the death of her husband in 3E 153, and her almost fifty-year reign is remembered as a happy one.
@trbd
@trbd 2 года назад
I actually thought the first time i read the lore of elder scrolls that maybe one of those septims lied about being dragonborn. Like how kings and emperors in some culture made up story that trace their lineage to a deity, or taht they hung out with a god and gain their approval, or whatever legitimise their rule.
@chrisvandergriff504
@chrisvandergriff504 2 года назад
Anyone else think Potema's child was probably illegitimate? In the real world, almost every time a royal couple has a kid after years and years of trying, the speculation is always a different father.
@leeaivanel
@leeaivanel 2 года назад
tks for the new episode!
@blackpiranaha525
@blackpiranaha525 2 года назад
The idea of the Dragonborn from skyrim becoming emperor just fits so well as a connecting historic point! Every elder scrolls has some connection or reference to previous games, in books or dialogue or other ways. The Neravarine from morrowind, and the hero of kivach in oblivion are all recognized as historic figures and their effects on the history show in the next games. But its never anything this direct. Having dragonborn become emperor could open the state of the empire for wild changes to be made! I really hope Todd Howard is a fan of the channel and hears this plot point because its too good to ignore now! Edit: Ther must be some theories about the future of Tamriel? A podcast episode on some of these theories would be a good listen! (frantically searching for theories now)
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
It seems like a bad idea just because it makes it difficult to leave the race in ambiguity. Personally, I hope the Dragonborn joins the Nerevarine in Akavir in the fight against an unknown threat.
@blackpiranaha525
@blackpiranaha525 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 I think most people would agree that the draginborn from skyrim would most likely fit as a nord, but to keep it racially unknown as they mentioned in the podcast, make the spouse a specific race and then any following children can cannonically be whatever they decide. And as for depictions of race just put a helmet on their head and call it a day
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
The possible future of Tamriel would actually be a fun discussion!
@XDivineSouljax
@XDivineSouljax 9 месяцев назад
“I don’t believe Titus Meade could have assassinated himself but I believe all the dumb shit Kirkbride wrote when he was no longer working on the game”
@michelleguillen3969
@michelleguillen3969 2 года назад
My favorite podcast, it feeds my TES lore addiction, love you guys keep the great work, would love to have a podcast on Mannimarco and Vanus Galerion.
@SirVuki
@SirVuki 2 года назад
Honestly this was the best birthday present ! My birthday was the 5th and listened to this as soon as it came out on Spotify
@sulljoh1
@sulljoh1 Год назад
Everybody loses in war, man
@realtourdreams9655
@realtourdreams9655 2 года назад
Michael, I think you’re right, we may see a Martin “Septim”descendant from Martin’s Sanguine era. Awesome discussion.
@knoxknifemods
@knoxknifemods 2 года назад
Great lore video! Gotta love some imperial discussion
@divozo4424
@divozo4424 4 месяца назад
If the Elder council chose who was dragonborn they would've just made ocato that
@sulliedpat
@sulliedpat 2 года назад
I thought your analysis of TMII was far too generous. Yes, he would have felt backed into a corner after 5 years of war, but the terms of the WGC (like the Ultimatum) were transparently designed to have the Empire tear itself apart. I assume too it was meant to be temporary, but it is really poor planning and leadership to not do what you need to before the completely and blatantly foreseeable consequences eventuate.
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
I had a podcast idea: I would love to see what new shouts other fans could come up with. There could be some fun ones!
@cararowe2427
@cararowe2427 2 года назад
Hey guys, Love the pod!! Any word on when you’re going to do the 36 lessons of Vivec? Been waiting on that since ep one 😂🤣
@FullRamenAlch3mist
@FullRamenAlch3mist 2 года назад
@34:50 Crazy idea but... *WHAT IF* The emperor's time in Oblivion did do all of that and it is a gift to dream prophecies by having crazy dreams..... and they are a gift from Sheogorath... whom he sees the player character as sheogorath in a past sense. Like he knows the prisoner will mantel Sheogorath or time isnt as fluid in his dreams and that could be due to the amulet of kings having ties to the God of Time.
@OceanBloke
@OceanBloke 2 года назад
If potema was still alive, ironically she would be rightful heir of the empire
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
I don't think an undead counts
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
Which could be quite terrifying!
@jaycrownshaw3902
@jaycrownshaw3902 2 года назад
Honestly, I believe it's a misconception to see the term Dragonborn in relation to Emperors as being the same as the kind of Dragonborn talked about in Skyrim. Before Skyrim, Dragonborn usually meant something along the lines of "Of the Empire" and the thuum was always separate. So I feel like when Akatosh chose an Emperor, he chose the one he felt (?) Was truly born of the Empire and of the Pact, not necessarily granting Dragonborn thuum status.
@DovahFett
@DovahFett 2 года назад
Being of the Dragon Blood and being a Dragonborn hero are the same thing in the lore. Dragonborn heroes are defined as mortals that share some of Akatosh's divine essence. Dragonborn emperors are also defined as having Akatosh's essence. There is no distinction. This goes back to St. Alessia's pact with the god, which was reaffirmed by Reman and Tiber Septim. Now, Tiber Septim didn't just coincidentally happen to be a Dragonborn hero _and_ also have the Dragon Blood needed to gain Akatosh's blessing to light the Dragonfires and rule as emperor. Akatosh didn't make him a Dragonborn despite there being no dragons just for a laugh, and then decide _afterwards_ that he'd also make a good emperor. The God of Time made him Dragonborn so that he had the Dragon Blood needed to light the fires. To be one is to be the other. Further leading credence to the idea that they are the same thing is that the Akaviri Dragonguard recognized the Dragon Blood emperors as being the ultimate dragon slayers, and swore to be their personal protectors. They did not recognize just one of them, but the entire bloodline. They would not have done that if they didn't think they were worthy of the title. In my mind, the only practical difference between the two types of Dragonborn is that the Dragonborn emperors didn't shout. I do not think this is because they were incapable of doing so, but because they had no reason to pursue their godly talents. After Tiber Septim's reign there were no major conquests left and there were no dragons to threaten the mortals of Nirn. Shouting wouldn't have helped them reform the empire's bureaucracy or streamline its tax systems. Shouts are a combat orientated set of skills that don't lend themselves to the intricacies of running an empire. Those of Alessia and Reman's line probably didn't even know that they _could_ shout, since again, the dragons were already gone and the Greybeards never had to call on them to face them. I genuinely believe that if the Amulet of Kings and the Dragonfires still existed, the Last Dragonborn could have walked into the Temple of the One, put on the Amulet, and lit them. They would have been of the Dragon Blood via being Dragonborn and so would have had Akatosh's blessing. Now it doesn't matter, since the Dragon Blood requirement ceased at the end of the Oblivion Crisis, and the line of Tiber Septim was no more. To summarize, not all Dragonborn were emperors, but all emperors were Dragonborn. The vast majority of them may have never utilized their ability to shout, but they did have the *potential* to do so. There has been nothing in the lore to suggest otherwise, besides a lack of records showing that those aside from Tiber Septim _did_ shout during their reigns, which doesn't prove that they couldn't.
@jaycrownshaw3902
@jaycrownshaw3902 2 года назад
@@DovahFett disagree. For one: there was dragons in Tiber Septim's time. This is an issue with the lore in Skyrim. Also what about Uriel Septim the 5th who went off to Akavir? Seems like shouting would have really helped in that, but we have no records not even out of canon ones of him shouting. Tiber Septim is a bad example because his story is far more metaphysically complicated. Its possible it wasn't Tiber Septim at all who had the voice power, but Ysmir Wulfharth. Reman was born metaphysically and divinely. Also shouting probably really would have helped Uriel 6th or wtv when he got assassinated. Keep in mind that during the creation of the lore for Reman and the Akaviri invasion, dragons and the voice were not yet connected in lore and dragons themselves were far more animal feeling. To say every Emperor COULD use the voice brings up issues that are more easily resolved by acknowledging the difference in what Dragonborn meant preskyrim. The Thuum used to be an innate power ALL nords had.
@Im-Not-a-Dog
@Im-Not-a-Dog 2 года назад
People That Became Gods Vivvek: I traveled the Planes, slept with and battled Daedra, and stole the power from the heart of a God. Mannimarco: I perfected Necromancy and enacted a prophecy of my own design. Tiber Septim: I conquered a continent using a mechanical God. The Champion of Cyrodil: I helped save the world from a Daedric invasion, restored the Daedric Prince of Order, and mantled the Dardric Prince of Madness. Rajin: I steal shit!!!!
@john-doemcalias4759
@john-doemcalias4759 2 года назад
Lets goooo put that fudgemuppet in my ears boys
@jameswilkes451
@jameswilkes451 Год назад
Drew looking extra spicy and khajiit-like these days
@lostmarimo
@lostmarimo 2 года назад
Return of the the kings
@HornyDingo
@HornyDingo 2 года назад
I fucking love this channel.
@alyxxpratt678
@alyxxpratt678 2 года назад
Let’s goooo new podcast
@leafalsa7926
@leafalsa7926 2 года назад
I am freakin' DIGGING Drew's beard and hair now.
@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen
@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen 2 года назад
I feel as though most of the things in es lore involving the Nation's and their dynasties are fairly accurate to how real kingdoms and empires worked. Like Hjalti/Talos/Zurin adopting the name Tiber Septim upon being crowned Emperor. Rulers all over the world adopted regal names when assuming a title, usually naming themselves after previous rulers who were considered great or gifting themselves with names with important meanings. An example Napolean III was named after his Uncle Also the name Napoleon means new cities lion or Lion of the new city. Another point on the septim dynasty is it followed an equal inheritance between children meaning the 1st born was pretty much always the ruler as long as they lived into adulthood. Also very commonly if a line from a King died out it would follow the next closest line so Tiber's Niece becoming empress is not strange. Dragon blood deciding an emperor is like the European divine right or Chinese mandate of heaven. If anyone has any corrections for my statement please leave a comment below...
@vinniedurrant
@vinniedurrant 2 года назад
TES lore is insanely deep, I wonder how it would stand up to LOTR and other such universes?
@big_tymerro
@big_tymerro 2 года назад
We NEED an episode on Talos’ ascension to godhood, with all the good shit, I’m talking Tiber Septim/Ysmir Wulfhart/Zurin Arctus Venn diagram, Numidium, etc.
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
My last comment: my daughter got Skyrim for their Switch. Unfortunately, she hasn't gotten far because it's so flippin' small & hard to see on a Switch. I am going to get her a copy for their Xbox so she can actually play it! 😁 🐲 I usually put on Fudgemuppet when I go to sleep, for some background noise, & maybe I will absorb some of the lore in my sleep, lol! So one morning when my daughter stopped over, she heard your podcast playing. I told her to go watch your channel!
@lazilycatharticone4191
@lazilycatharticone4191 2 года назад
If you have a smart TV, you can hook up your Switch to it and play the game on it like any other console. Don't have a switch personally, but I've seen family do it. You should look into that before dropping another $50 on a game. Unless you want to of course. On Xbox, it probably plays better and certainly looks better.
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
@@lazilycatharticone4191 thank you 😊
@lazilycatharticone4191
@lazilycatharticone4191 2 года назад
@@Mary_Beth_Reimer you're very welcome 😁
@Seasniffer69
@Seasniffer69 2 года назад
Yes!
@yosquiggly
@yosquiggly 2 года назад
How come Drew isn't in the About Me for the channel? Is he not Fudgemuppet too?
@David_Alvarez77
@David_Alvarez77 Год назад
You probably already know this, but he left this channel and now posts on his own channel called Drewmora. It's a pretty good channel.
@shahhaque5242
@shahhaque5242 2 года назад
Here is my theory to the septim dynasty i think the last dragonborn is also the last descendent of the septim dynasty
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
What if the last Dragonborn was an Argonian?
@shahhaque5242
@shahhaque5242 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 Martin has some explaining to do? maybe he used sanguine's rose on an argonian the guy must have read the lusty argonian maid and decided to become like crassius curo..
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
That is similar to the thought I also had. Great minds think alike, yes?
@shahhaque5242
@shahhaque5242 2 года назад
@@Mary_Beth_Reimer yes I wonder what the implications of this is and how does it affect tes6??
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Morag Tong (The Dark Brotherhood Rival)
@worbak
@worbak 2 года назад
Unrelated, but I'm not sure if we'll get a satisfying conclusion to the Dominion plotline. At worst, it'll just be background lore that resolved itself. As for plot in the next game, it will likely involve another third party that is doing bad stuff, which would take a lot of the focus. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
@BaalFridge
@BaalFridge 2 года назад
also unrelated, but wow I hadn't seen a MSPA pfp in a long time
@worbak
@worbak 2 года назад
@@BaalFridge it's something a friend made and I just never changed it. Partly cause of lazy and cus of memories. But yeah, not many of em around.
@therakshasan8547
@therakshasan8547 2 года назад
The Amulet of Kings was a covenant between Akatosh and mortals to protect them from the ravages of Oblivion's Princes . It did not mean that every descendant of the 1st wearer were Dragon Born , just that they were of the blood line . So all the Court back stage plots are just plots by the Deadric princes. Wolf ring [Hiercine ] , insanity [Sheogorath] , etc , etc .
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад
Well, let's see, just a small swath the 3rd Empire alone is full of strife. Not even any of the Dominion's have had THIS much Instability, tbh... 3E 317 to 3E 339: Empress Morihatha took over. The Empire's reach beyond Cyrodiil had started to disintegrate, open revolutions and civil wars had raged in the provinces since the days of Cephorus Septim II (3E 247). Morihatha slowly dealt with the uprisings. While successful her slow pace annoyed the Elder Council, resulting in her assassination in 3E 339, supposedly at the call of an Argonian councilor who considered her pace too slow for troubled Black Marsh. 3E 339 to 3E 368: Pelagius Septim VII continued where his predecessor left off, slowly taking back the revolutionary regions of the Empire. While not as successful as his predecessor, a result of Pelagius placing an Imperial presence on kingdoms which had long been on their own, Pelagius brought about stability which had not been seen since the days of Uriel Septim I (3E 48 to 3E 64). 3E 389 to 3E 399: Under the rule of Uriel Septim VII, Jagar Tharn takes control of the Empire, puting a halt to the Imperial reconquests that Uriel had enacted before being trapped. The Imperial Simulacrum saw strife and war aplenty. The Imperial Battlespire, testing ground for the Shadow Legion, was taken over by Daedra before its destruction, Skyrim invaded High Rock and Hammerfell during the War of Bend'r Mahk, Black Marsh and Morrowind were involved in a war known as the Arnesian War which saw Morrowind take over parts of northern Black Marsh. When King Helseth of Morrowind later outlawed slavery at the wishes of the Empire he too faced a bloody Civil war when House Indoril was involved in a House War with the Hlaalu and Dres.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
Wasn't the Dominion expelled from Hammerfell? Didn't Valenwood have massive death due to a Thalmor coup?
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 Meh, considering the state the Dominion left Southern Hammerfell in, and the fact that the 2 were in a Stalemate despite you Redguards having Homefield advantage says a lot about the skills of my colleagues. Hell, Southern Hammerfell was decimated as we left as well, and it was a struggle on BOTH sides, not just one... we left but we Sacked the hell out of your lands and left it more of a wasteland than it already was, so... enjoy your "victory" while it lasts, insolent fool 😤 Also, don't forget that it was an internal Valenwood struggle as well as pirate issues that the Altmer came in to stop, and the Thalmor DO have allies in Valenwood, so some Bosmer did Rebel, some allied willingly so, the Thalmor coup to put their own ally in charge, so, makes sense. Not to mention, that's nothing compared to the atrocities of the Empire. The list I gave is merely a PORTION of it all 😅
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
@@thalmoragent9344 Your description of the Dominion hardly sounds stable.
@Mary_Beth_Reimer
@Mary_Beth_Reimer 2 года назад
@@badluck5647 I believe that was his point 😊
@Jamesfrf
@Jamesfrf 2 года назад
Regarding Michael’s idea of an army of Dragonborn, “got to thinking, maybe we are all Dragon born, and we just don’t know it yet.”
@dankseid3793
@dankseid3793 2 года назад
I do not think two Dragonborns walk Nirn at the same time.
@Henrex2000
@Henrex2000 2 года назад
If that was the case, the War of the Red Diamond would be like a nuclear fallout
@Paguo
@Paguo 2 года назад
9:27 what?
@Henrex2000
@Henrex2000 2 года назад
I really wish if they're gonna make a TES TV series, they will make the War of Red Diamond
@dang.9209
@dang.9209 2 года назад
Jagar was sus.
@Tyleya
@Tyleya 2 года назад
Sometimes it feels like the Targaryen's dynasty in the Westeros universe is so much like the Septim dynasty's storyline.
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 2 года назад
There is less inbreeding on Tamriel.
@Harveygregorxotwod
@Harveygregorxotwod 2 года назад
Just curious if you guys like the souls borne games seriously or how familiar you guys are with them
@itsmeitsmeitssteven
@itsmeitsmeitssteven 2 года назад
I had played Oblivion one time, and before I even played the main quest, I had became the Grand champion of the arena, the listener of the dark brotherhood, the arch-mage of the mages guild, the leader of the thieves guild, and the leader of the fighters guild. Then I started the main quest, and became a knight brother of the blades.
@Williamfuchs420
@Williamfuchs420 2 года назад
What im curious is if there gonna do a special shout like system in es6 but have it be based on the sword singing from Redguard lore? Or the lore of how they survived the last Calpa maybe there prepping to do the same if the elves succeed in there world ending plans
@johno3799
@johno3799 2 года назад
Nice one
@DarkrarLetsPlay
@DarkrarLetsPlay 2 года назад
Podcast Idea: Do we need more incest in the Elder Scrolls series?
@xskippysticky5092
@xskippysticky5092 2 года назад
Make a video about Ranking eso/tes villains 🤔 it would be nice to hear your take on this
@beautifulchlorophyll2285
@beautifulchlorophyll2285 2 года назад
ohh shit I haven't watched for a while - when did you guys re-animate and hire John Lennon?
@getsaucedon9313
@getsaucedon9313 2 года назад
less of a TES theory and more of a fun fact, at the beginning intro of skyrim the prisoner that comes before you lies face down on the block, your character lies on their side and looks towards the tower from the side or sideways sound familler maybe this is a small reference to the esoteric idea of looking upon the wheel or tower sideways and realizing the truth of the reality and achieving khim!
@gabr.7878
@gabr.7878 2 года назад
I love lore
@zanderthompson4747
@zanderthompson4747 2 года назад
Can you guys do a drunk podcast
@SupahTrunks7
@SupahTrunks7 2 года назад
I think the reason katariah was able to be empress without doing the dragonfire stuff is because those only go out when the emperor DIES and since Pelagius was declared unfit rather than killed the dragon fires would still be lit as they were at his coronation until his death in his cell, giving her the ability to bypass the dragonblood requirement
@_Beastie_
@_Beastie_ 2 года назад
I ain’t got nothin’, just wanna say hi 👋
@Vahmung
@Vahmung 2 года назад
Conspiracy thoery: Reman Cyrodil was actually a Daedra and King Hrol was a daedric worshipper that forced the Empire to worship this creature. His battle against the Akaviri invasion was actually bewitching the armies to his command.
@bunchacolors1501
@bunchacolors1501 2 года назад
I'm not sure if it's me, but the fudgemuppet lineup has felt slow lately. However this vid is a nice return to form, never wanna see yall stop!