Land, unlike most ebike producers, manufacturer all of their bikes and most of their parts in the US, specifically Cleveland Ohio. The build quality is far above just about anything you’ll find on the market. It’s most likely direct competitor is the Super 73 C1X, which still isn’t released.
That's actually good info to know. I think a lot of people see these higher power and higher speed bikes and equate them to regular pedal style ebikes. In the sense that most if not all components are mass produced in China with little or no quality control. People may assume they are similar to ebike parts and components as opposed to stronger better made motorcycle parts and components. Knowing that the bike is being assembled and checked by an American company is huge! I would feel a ton safer knowing that. In fact I would rather spend a higher price for a bike like this assembled and checked by an American company, then a questionable bike imported that people are unsure of they are safe enough.
@@brandonrich6342I agree with you, we need to put more effort into supporting us here at home. We have become cheap in everything we do. Hence the Chinese QC and the like. As long as they control how much they can handle and lower the prices a small bit as production /supply gets ironed out, they will go far, and hopefully more US based/ made companies will pop up.
They source batteries from China, Controllers from Czech Republic (which are actually good), and IF you ask about an inverter for your battery when you order you order your bike they will give you one with it but if not they keep that hush hush as hell. I have one of the first 100 and had to wait legit 2-3 extra weeks for my battery to show from across seas. They build the frame in house and the plastics are 3D printed but other than that they source everything else across seas which is crazy because i had belief that the batteries were built right in Cleveland like stated on the battery but they just get them shipped in by the pallets by the order for bikes at the time. Fun bikes but they are not nearly 100% made in the US. Just the frame tbh and the cast wheels. (NOTE: IM LITERALLY SELLING BOTH MY LANDS.) They both have big battery, storage racks, and magura brakes in scrambler models and im asking a whopping $7500 for them both fully accessorized.
Community note Real motorcycles are faster and way less expensive If you live in Florida, you don't have to insure them either What's the difference between an electric motorcycle? That's illegal because it goes over 28, or a perfectly legal motorcycle which you can get up to 230 mi an hour You don't have to pay insurance on either one
@@BozemanjustinYeah but where I live gas bikes can obnoxious as hell. Some folks like the simplicity and lack of noise (like myself) of the electric world. Many like having both!
@@HawkAlumn Don't buy into the hype of these "Electric Motorcycles" there only a few real ones (Livewire & Zeros) and those cost way too much for how little they offer. All of these are sold as gimmick dirty riding ebikes that people wont register and insure. Parts are highly questionable with no long term QA. The whole ebike market is just expensive toys cloning each other.
4:54 When you have a heavy draw on your outlet that trips your circuit, you should plug in to any kitchen outlet as they have to be 20amp instead of the 15amp wall outlets. The kitchen circuits have to be able to provide higher amperage for the countertop appliances like toasters and microwave to operate simultaneously.
If his condo is piped in EMT, he can have a 20Amp circuit pulled anywhere he wants to charge. I started wiring condos 44 years ago. If it's Smurf, well, maybe he can do it.
Just if anybody's wondering the battery is 67 amp hours the biggest surron battery is 72v 42 amp hours also I just wanted to say this is a good deal because it's like an upgraded surron but it's street legal and has more range
Caofen f80 is street legal and like an upgraded surron straight out of the box. 72v 48ah battery with 8kw of power I paid like £5000 for it. Dash says 55 when at top speed but it's geared for torque instead of top end speed.
people buy sur ron because it doesnt have to be titled and registered., These do, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I have 2 and couldnt even have the one titled as a moped so.
The biggest difference is that one can legally ride this down the highway at 70 mph, while a Surron will be in the bike lane at 20 mph because it is a class 2 cycle. You would have to ride it illegally to any faster than that. Some are getting confiscated around here. Chicks just laugh at things in the bike lane.
@@SilverShadow2LWB every single Ebike this guy reviews is technically illegal lol no rides a surron at 20mph in the bike lane, they ride right down the middle of the street going faster than all the cars. chicks dont think youre cool for riding a bike buddy lol
Man that was a killer review. That thing is a beast 💪 I really enjoyed watching video, especially with how happy and excited you were about the bike. Thanks for sharing with us Matt, much appreciated.
It's nice to see other styles of e-motorcycles coming on the market outside of the typical Surron/Talaria style ones. What I'd really like to see is an electric cruiser motorcycle with classic styling and plenty of chrome, but with a powerful enough motor to go 60+mph when need be and a good selection of aftermarket parts so you can give it more of a chopper or bobber look if you want.
You do know that Harley Davidson makes an electric, right? Look up the Live Wire. Spoiler alert, it has half the range of this thing and costs twice as much.
@@nogoodgod4915 just got it a couple days ago. I love it! All I can say is when you watch videos of people launching it and riding it the videos don’t do it justice with how quick it is. Being on it and turning that throttle that thing is a rocket especially in mode 4. Feels super solid and stable at speed though
Great video! Starts at just $7,000. Hmm. This thing is pretty rad and finally a mini full featured street legal dual sport EV. I'll certainly stick with my off road Grom, though. Still only costs five bucks or so for an instant "recharge" and a confident 130-170 mile range. I feel like I'd be wearing a battery out in one of these bikes pretty quickly.
I have been following Land for a while now. I am going to buy a district as my first motorcycle and as an upgrade from my SurRon. It is the best price to performance (electric) motorcycle on the market. Edit: One thing to note is that on a kind of hidden part of their website under custom builds, there is an option for an even bigger battery option.
i have 2 for sale with all the best options scrambler models for $7500 each. 1 in grey and 1 in the seafoam green. $7500 each. Frame vin numbers 66 and 67 of the first batch made.
@@quadzilla2854 bought a tracer 9 gt. i dont live in the city or anything so even with the 6.4kwh battery once i get somewhere decent to ride i only have 10 miles to do it before i have to turn around. If i lived about 20 miles more towards the city i would have kept em. They need about 200 mile range for me to hold onto them personally.
If it had a built-in type two charger plug with three hours of charging, I’d buy it. Also, after getting my Tesla, I have to say regenerative braking is the way to go. I don’t think I wanna go back.
For that much money give us a gearbox! would turn it into an absolute rocket and make it more fun to ride being able to shift. everything else is not super difficult to build for a quarter of the price. they should make it worth it
5:14 What you're calling whiskey throttle is something that happens all of the time with twist throttles and novices trying out bikes and motorcycles for the first time and some serious accidents happen. I've had people who have tried to reposition twist throttle bikes and have driven them into the walls of a building. If it's not too expensive I think I'll be changing mine to a thumb throttle in the future.
You could bring like 2 of these bikes in as offroad ready trim they come in throw them in the bed of a current gen F150 plug-in hybrid w/ the 7.3kw ProPower onboard generator, another 6 full range batteries (so another 426lbs loaded into the copious payload F150) Each bike will have a theoretical range of 480 miles with 4 fully charged batteries (120miles per) each and the F150 - assuming you threw on a set of proper off-road all terrain tires on the F150 plug in hybrid and you’d be able to accompany the 2 riders IN the F150 providing hot swaps when required and charging the swapped out units all the while.. all you need is a trail where the bikes and truck traverse even if they take alternate routes during certain portions. This is sounding like the making of an amazing relay rally race idea lol
That display is an insult for the price and the rest of the machine. I know many people are not concerned about a display rather they want performance but honestly for me I want both.
As much as I've seen displays on e-bikes that might look a little better aesthetically, I have feeling that this simpler looking screen is probably a lot more robust, It's certainly really bright and looks like you can see it in all weather conditions.
Nice bike...love that monster battery. Hey could you look into possibly reviewing a new e-bike that's out from Ristretto ? It's out a few months and there's no independent reviews so far. Thanks for everything... Your channel has the best selection of ebikes.
i have the big battery and going around 40-45mph no faster keep in mind i dont get any better than 65 miles on a charge. The bike also hits a limp mode at 20% power so it pulls you back to between ebike mode and moped mode when your battery falls super low so be prepared to go about 20mph max at 20%
@@Nightmarerhfan2011 this kind of paragraph is what’s missing from every review I’ve seen of this thing, thank you much. Nothing angers me more than RU-vidrs making ebike reviews and not mentioning or testing the range, on electric vehicles that is literally the single most important bottle neck and half the videos just read the manufacturers website like it’s gospel.
Great video man! I've been looking at this bike for a hot minute. I've got a 2005 Suzuki SV650, and it has a few issues that need fixing. I was considering just getting a good e-motorcycle like this one, I only wish it had a higher top speed. Maybe a simple transmission with a low gear and high gear option, where 1st goes to like 50 or 60, and 2nd goes to 100. I'm still considering this though 😎
Hey Brother. Is this bike better than the Ryvid Anthem? Need to pick between the two. I live in Oceanside, Ca. I ride on PCH and El camino a lot…. Let me know what you think between the two.
Have you seen Old Soren Motorcycles? They're based in LA. I really like the idea of their electric cafe racer. This one is cool too, but that price... lol
This is what the Sondors Metacycle was supposed to be, but it failed. For a $1,000 more though, I pre-ordered a Fuell Fllow which has twice the battery capacity and based on the specs should be a way better street motorcycle as a daily driver, though this looks really fun as small wheelie machine and would be great for just ripping around city streets or doing a little off-roading.
Thanks for the excellent review! I am looking at purchasing this or the Solar Eclipse 2.0, Ryvid, or maybe even the new BMW CE-02. My primary purpose is to travel on a 45mph road for about 7 miles one way, several times a week. I know you reviewed the Eclipse 2.0 as I liked that video too. What would you recommend here? Eclipse or Land Moto? Thanks!
You'd probably want the 8 or 9k landmoto for that distance, though it's definitely got way more power than the eclipse 2.0. however the eclipse you'd be saving some money and I'm sure it could make that distance. Really depends if you'd ever need to go 60-70mph as the landmoto can do that and the eclipse can't really.
@@spartankittygames Thanks a lot for the reply and advice. Hmm...I'm thinking Land Moto for the extra power. How did the Scrambler tires feel on the street? I'd prefer the Scrambler, but about 90% of my riding will be street.
@@brettr876 Ive taken the street tires on a little offroading nothing crazy and it was fine. Almost all of my riding is street. Country roads, hills , curves and some city. No matter which style you get it will be a killer fun time.
Question.. so since regen braking as we have learned doesnt really put juice back in the battery... so its usung the foward momentum by switchin polarities to help slow down? Sorry if it sounds like a dumb question still rather new to this. Got a revv1 back in march of this year now thinking up upgrading to a 72v build or another model entirely
I don't know what this guy's talking about when he claims that regen braking doesn't add anything to the battery. Maybe in city driving it doesn't add a noticeable amount. But, I've had 3 electric cars, and an electric skateboard. All of them have regen braking, and yes, it adds to the battery life. If you do any highway driving, you'll definitely notice the difference.
Hope you don't have to give it back soon, we want to see you take it to the Hollywood sign. A few weeks of durability testing would be great. You have no pedals and you have a plate, so I'm thinking the bike lanes and paths don't make any sense for that thing.
yes they do and yes. Dont let anyone on these review videos tell you otherwise unless they say they actually own it because they will just tell you what they were told to say haha.
I think the best for all the e-bike company out there is make the best bike you can do under 5k dollars to the average people like me... but 9k it's too much 😢
Quality builders aren’t going to get involved in 50mph+ street legal bikes unless they can turn a good profit. You can find plenty of cheaper options shipped from China but have to accept risks and legality limitations.
The argument for e-motorcycles really evaporates above $5k-ish; about the dealer price of a 125cc gas bike. Pro & Cons to both, certainly, but value-to-specs gas still wins.
The oy issue I have is that its not an e-bike, even in ebike mode. Without pedals, it can't be classified as an e-bike to ride officially in bike lanes and since that's the case, its actually an expensive e-motorcycle. I can't speak for others but a huge part of the fun for me with e-bikes is the ability to pass as an electrically assisted bike, otherwise I'd get a motorcycle. Value isn't there for me.
I personally enjoy the smaller e bikes such as a talaria or sur ron or e ride, however a full size electric motorcycle isn’t really that appealing. No skill required, which could cause more new riders to crash, and they make no sound which is a negative toward letting cars around you know your there. The main issue tho is range, being what 70-80 miles max on a bike like this?
It would be helpful (to me, LOL) if you had someone smaller available to demonstrate the fit for your reviews. I'm 5'4" and can't tell from your reviews whether a bike is suitable for me. This applies to your e-bike channel as well. Thanks and be careful out there!
Yeah, that's cool. But the point still stands. If you're getting a street legal motorcycle, 9000 usd for a gas powered bike gives you a million times better product.@@ImawandererIroamaround
I definitely understand where you are coming from. Some folks would rather pay a higher price for a well made electric vehicle. All I would be concerned about is if the electric bike was built with solid quality components and safe for the rider. If people want to buy these as opposed to a conventional motorcycle I'm all for it.
Well, I guess they've built a truly classic scrambler style naked bike that everyone is trying to create by stripping all amenities off their bikes. If it can be fast charged for longer road trips then I'd say they have a winner. 😊
It’s waterproof so no issues in the rain besides the fact that you should clean/dry off afterwards. No issues with riding in cold temps…. You’ll loose a little range but that’s about it. You don’t want to store battery in under freezing temperatures either so should bring battery inside when temp gets too low
Lithium batteries should not be charged below freezing. They can sit in the cold just fine, just make sure you charge it inside. No one is going to be out riding their moto in sub freezing weather anyway.
I use variable Regen all the time hardly ever use brakes. Also converted Honda XR200R with QS138 that has regen and used a Grin All Axel front direct drive motor with regen to make an AWD motorcycle . Regen can get you about 7% battery. What a waist if this motorcycle doesn't have variable Regen.