#3 reason for 500 mile range: You can take the back ways to avoid the crowds and/or enjoy enjoy the view and only need a decent L2 at your destination.
The new heat pump debuted on the Sapphire. Great initial review, Kyle! I love my Grand Touring and agree that for drivers who need a car that can do it all, there’s nothing better.
This is marketing strategy 101. I think it will open doors to the market. It is well needed for this vehicle. Now that chip update has me thinking about a used model.
Some of the improvements talked about in this video are also now installed in older versions of the Air via software updates. I have a 2022 Dream Edition Performance with almost 300 more horsepower than the Grand Touring (as well as the gorgeous Santa Monica interior that was unique to the Dream Edition). Even though we intend to be as near the head of the line as possible to get the Lucid Gravity SUV later this year, there is no way I'm letting go of the Dream Edition. In a lifetime of owning high-performance and luxury cars, our two-and-a-half-year-old Lucid remains easily the best balance of power, handling, ride, room, comfort, features, and structural solidity I have ever seen combined in one package. (FWIW, we also own a 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid that replaced our 2015 Model S P90D.)
@@senoow4215 The interior quality is considerably better than in our Model S Plaid, both in terms of fit and finish and in material quality. The only two issues are that the toggle switches to control A/C temp and fan speed and the rotary switches on the steering wheel to control volume and ADAS have sloppy detents and thus feel a bit flimsy. With those two exceptions, I would put the Lucid's interior quality on a par with the upper-tier Audi and Mercedes models I've owned. We're nearing 30,000 miles on the Air, and there is not a squeak or rattle anywhere in the car. Also the seats still look brand new except for the subtle patina the Nappa leather is developing (a desirable trait in good leather).
Kyle finally understands the need for range, yes absolutely to avoid DC charging and just go from Home to Destination and then charge at hotel and then back Home for a very premium travel experience.
@@Matzes So to me a Premium travel experience is when the car does not dictate where and when the stop needs to occur. I prefer to stop at locations that suit me and my families style not the the style that a charger provider prefers but thats just me, if you enjoy Wallmarts and Tesla charger locations feel free to drive lower range vehicles and be stuck in the charger hopping life. I will however stop where and when my family decides to stop and charge when it's most convenient which is when we are all sleeping. Good luck to you.
@@user-yn5sk5ru5g Although I understand what you are saying, you are missing the point entirely. Stopping where the car "needs" to stop to charge and stopping where me and my family "want" to stop are two entirely different things. Premium means your terms and with a vehicle that has 400 - 500 miles of range the stops are for the most part on your terms not the cars terms.
Kyle: "We're at an undisclosed location in the middle of the Mojave." Meanwhile Jordan shows us it's at the Honda proving grounds on the motoring channel, lol.
After test driving a Lucid Air Touring (640 hp) I can say it has the comfort and build quality of a Mercedes, and the performance and driving spirit of a Porsche. Best sedan ever made
The gonzo driving segment really underscored the gulf that exists between Lucid and almost every other car on the road (not least the Tesla Model S) in terms of big-sedan driving dynamics. Savage Geese did a test about five months back that really illustrated how much better the Lucid Air Pure model was (in terms of driving dynamics) than the electric BMW 5 Series. Thank you for this.
@@xavierdupuis8 i believe I did say they’re a pretty exciting company? I HOPE they will be able to offer broader offerings at more accessible pricing in the future and follow in the path Tesla has proven works. At the same time, they don’t currently offer those options so it’s fair to say their existing products are very expensive.
The EV range conversation is so fascinating to me. To me it's so much more complicated than that, because I think it's the UNPREDICTABILITY of range that people truly have issues with. On a flat highway you might get 500 miles, but in Colorado that absolutely does NOT mean you're making it from Denver to Salina UT in one go... Especially during winter. You literally have no idea how far you can go because it's so dependent on environmental factors. That is why people want a 500 mile car, because it means that in virtually ANY conditions, you can reliably go at least 200 miles 😂
So are ICE cars, both lose a lot of efficiency with extreme temps. It's just that there are 100,000 gas stations...no different from the Tesla charging network really. The network makes it all work.
I think you read my mind! I've been looking for a good review of the Lucid Air Grand Touring, and here one is! From the best EV Reviewers on RU-vid. :-)
How hard were you looking? The internet is full of great reviews of the Lucid Air Grand Touring from the likes of Throttle House, Motor Trend, Savage Geese, Top Gear, Marques Brownlee, et al.
@@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 Maybe not hard enough! I have seen the review from Throttle House and MotorTrend, but I like the more personal aspect of Kyle's review. :-) I hope you did too!
@@RillianThacker I do watch -- and like -- many of Conner's videos (which is why I commented on this video within a couple of hours of its going up). However, they can sometimes be quite a journey to get a few points across.
I really love the black roof on this one. One thing that makes me dislike Lucid looks is the silver roof they normally come with. Other than that it seems like a solid EV. Great video.
We are going to drive this just like a normal person would. And then Kyle says, "We are just going to shred a few figure eights and do some drifts." Sounds like me taking the kids to preschool and picking up coffee. 🤣
This Lucid GT very similar to one borrowed from OOS Dave. I had a big problem with seat positioning too. When setting seat profile, does it have Easy Entry & Exit? If not, you will hit your head on roof. Every time you charge, check if charging door opens on the first press of door. No cheating with an inside button. My Lucid took 5 presses. Check if you can give it a voice command without registering an Alexa account.
I love the high praise from Kyle, a Plaid owner. Efficiency is great, but I’m glad to hear more about the handling. Very cool, and I trust Kyle and Jordan on that. I still think the Model S looks better. I’m wondering, on a scale of 1-10, how does the Tesla compare to the Lucid for canyon carving?
I am a fan of the lucid, but they don’t sell them here yet. 500 mile range is great for skiing trips to avoid overcrowded stops in the winter (where you’ll be happy to get 300 miles at 130 km/h in the winter). In summer I do manage a 300km range at 130 km/h from 80 till 10 to 5%. So that is acceptable. As for S-class: it still is on a different class and on top of that: a S450d will easily do 500km at 200km/h on the autobahn. My main annoyance on my EV. Range is acceptable, but in Germany I really have to limit myself to 130-140km/h to get a decent range. And that isn’t just limited to my BMW i5, but that is for all EV’s. I do really hope that in 2.5 years when I’ll need to get a new EV I’ll have plenty more choice (Lucid air, Audi A6 Avant Etron, BMW i5 touring, polestar 5, Volvo eV90??, …)
I genuinely think that other than the sound system, it is just an OTA from being the undisputed EV Sedan king: Dash Cam, Sentry Mode, and Android Auto. Maybe include some of the tweaks for route planning like Jordan mentioned in his road trip.
You're basically are on your own once you get this car, I know from my 1 1/2 year experience of ownership. Anything that goes wrong is a month or more ordeal that I got sick and tired of.
As a previous owner of a 2022 GT I can say without question it’s a great car. The Tesla software is rough. still better overall. The other issue is the current resale value on Lucid across-the-board is rough. If looking, I would definitely lease. It’s a great driving car. If deciding to purchase used, you won’t find a better overall performance/drive than a GT for around 65-68k. And still has warranty for few years
Vegas, Canonball, Ocean 2 Ocean... We want to see it all! Hopefully Lucid is watching carefully and going to make the changes to really put this car over the top. We saw Jordan showing the ADAS really needs work. Hopefully the charging issues have been resolved. What is the situation with NACS support? Oh and we want to see the built in route planner test like you just did with the 3 row SUV's. That was very illustrative of what the average person is going to do. Plug in a destination and have the car get you there. That is a good race to watch.
These updated models are going to be a great used purchase in a couple of years; I always let someone else take the depreciation hit for me. Especially if the non-Tesla charging networks keep getting better and more reliable.
In addition to all the things you guys highlighted, the other note I'd give to Lucid that holds me back as a buyer is make some more interesting colors available. Go plunder BMW and Porsche's color palettes for some interesting stuff.
My main questions. Has the carplay, bluetooth, and door locking/unlocking glitches been resolved in the software? Has the smoothness of the software been resolved? Essentially want to know is this better than a Model S?
Dynamics yes this is better. Software definitely no. I recall it's usable now (has car play, but still has Bluetooth bugs), still pretty far from Tesla software
@abdulalzaid228 Can't make a definitive statement until it gets released to the real world users and they give their feedback. Until then, it is just pie in the sky promises.
@@RoninHard yeah. It’s been almost 4 years and the slow iteration on software improvements is disappointing. Unfortunately that’s a deal breaker for me
So cool Lucid let you use a car that long. I have been working on getting my parents to get 1 or 2 electric cars. Mainly they could home charge considering my mom put 14000 miles on in 4 years me dad did 40k in 5. The city they live in super lower electricity rates. 5 and 8 cents a KWH. I think my dad my be more open. Thinking a Y be good. They in there 70s so SUV nice not needing to sit as low. Maybe an equinox. I doubt they would ever need to super charge.
Easy for me to say I suppose, but essentially part of the purchasing price you should consider is home charging. I came home with my two new Teslas and installed the home charging the next day. It’s an absolute game changer.
Just looked at 3 of them in Troy Michigan at Saks. Brilliant marketing. Can’t wait to drive it. Gravity I have to talk wife into it. I won’t need a hot rod with that thing it’s faster lol
I don't roadtrip anywhere but I-95 or maybe I-85. There are superchargers every 10 to 40 miles, and I'm going to stop every 120 miles anyway. By the time i drain the pipe and stuff the hatch, i can easily add another 120 miles to the whip. If i go anywhere else, I'm flying and letting my carrier burn gallons of jet fuel.
Undisclosed location. It’s the Honda proving ground in cantil CA in kern county. I recognize that back drop from anywhere. Tons of testing there seen many cool cars there.
Hi Kyle, in your later updates can you talk about whether Lucid has fixed all the numerous reliability issues and annoyances detailed by Motor Trend in their long-term review?
I had an E39 540i 6 speed sport, the poor man's M5. I know that putty-in-the-hands feeling where the car will just do what you tell it. Currently have a 2019 MSP and would love to get the Air Grand Touring... if it had a liftback instead of a trunk lid.
You mentioned the 2025 Lucid Air has a new faster computer chip. Can you tell us where you heard that the new chip can be installed in older Lucid Airs? I ask because I have a 2022 and would be interested in a faster chip.
It will be interesting to see Kyle’s comparison of Lucid GT to EQS 580. Owning both, I can say Lucid has much more performance while MB has more occupant comfort. Neither of these EVs are for under 30 young adults because they can’t afford a $100K car.
It would be interesting to have one that had a generator in the front instead of a frunk that was designed for long road trips and generally rarely having to charge the vehicle.
@@otm646 It's not just about making the highest range version higher range. Imagine a Pure or Touring with the smaller pack and a generator in the front. You would have more leg room in the back, insane range (rarely charge or fill a tank), and it would be way more efficient. EV's battery packs don't have very good power density. The idea is really making a hybrid where the gasoline part is just a replacement for a large battery would fix that. On top of this, you would not have to deal with Electrify America or any other charging network. You can go to a conventional gas station and be done in minutes. 500 miles of range is a lot, but that also means a lot of charging. However, it would be interesting to put a range extender on the highest trim level just for a 1000 mile road trip or cannon ball attempt.
Love my early production Air GT. It's a driver's car. The audio is 'good enough,' after OTA updates the on-screen software is 'good enough,' Have you ladies driven a Ferrari? How did you like it's infotainment and navigation? Driving like your Mom still buys your tires doesn't impress me.
