I am interested in both too, and so are many of my friends :P Historically there has been an inextricable link between railroads and telegraphy, and of course that means radio too!
Everything is connected - yesterday I watched a video by Martin Zero who mentioned this channel when showing an amateur radio room in one of magnificent Mancunian historic buildings..
Lots of RU-vid crossovers. Martin Zero often mentions the Goyt, and Picadilly has a model railway including New Mills and Manchester Picadilly - he needs to model this!
@@Jwnorton agreed, but can you imagine how much more exciting when filmed with true FPV? Probably not I guess. It such a shame because I think it the most diverse Rf related hobby I can think of. And it seems so suited for ringway.
I ended up watching this with great interest, mostly thanks to your wonderful explanation. Very nice drone footage too, you really captured the whole project very well. Great work and thanks as always for all your content.
What an interesting video Lewis, I am sure the crew looked after you, I hope Network Rail give you some credit as it shows civil engineering at its best.
In china they would've ignored the ground movement and said it'll probably be ok. Then when it inevitably failed they rebuilt it with tofu dreg material.
Really informative video, thanks for the amazing shots! I'm going to share it with some work colleagues to illustrate the scale of these incidents, which I think will become a more frequent thing. The age of these lines + weather isn't going to make life easier.
The line Between Bradford Forster Square and Ilkley suffered a land slip at Baildon in February and was closed for repairs and reopened in June, no bus service between the two ends and even worse, houses had to be demolished at the top of the embankment due to unsafe foundations.
Loving the railway crossover. I think something on the Network Rail test trains could be interesting, swear there’s something to do with radio in there somewhere…
There are radio surveys carried out by some of the test trains. The three main radio systems being GSM-R, CSR and NRN, with the latter two being legacy systems and nearing end of life. There is zero tolerance for dead spots on the GSM-R system, and the built environment continually changes, which can have an effect on the network, so it needs to be continually monitored. There is also RETB, which is a system in use in the West Highlands and Far North of Scotland, and carries vital and safety critical signalling information, so it also needs regular monitoring.
Glad something like this is being taken care of, seems quite a serious situation but being handled well. Been reading up on the Railtrack saga as of late, its work that shouldn't be neglected.
Thank you for great view and detailed explanations of the engineering works! It is often as a passenger hidden from us what is the scale of work behind cancellations and rerouting. Love this part of the line, we often walk down to Strines along the Goyt, there are nice river paths, aquaducts, and viaducts, farms and old industry, even Roman Lakes. We normally use an old trek map from GMPTE and just take the train one or two stops back to Marple as map recommends. The Strines station btw has a free phone you can call anyone with, not sure if intended, but useful as the train is once an hour on Sundays and mobile coverage is poor!
Thank you for this video, it's good to see a highlight into the works that affect us. Just a footnote, since about early July, all services between Marple and Chinley (For Strines and New Mills Central) have been replaced by a bus, with services terminating and starting at Marple for Manchester.
Nice video. Fun how this is about one of the very few tracks in the UK I actually travelled along quite a lot (spent a fair bit of time in Sheffield, usually flying to Manchester, and going to Sheffield by train).
Brilliant! We're not local and turned up at Strines station a few weeks ago at the end of a long walk expecting to take a train back to Bredbury. Unfortunately we found your reported 'no trains' as a result. Very frustrating! A further detour and hard climb found a train from Disley to Stockport and a bus from the 'new' intetchange got us back. Updates would be fascinating please.
Very interesting video. I live on the West of England Mainline at Templecombe. The line runs from Salisbury to Exeter St Davids. It is undulating with tunnels all the way to Exeter and often closed or suffers speed restrictions. Gillingham, Templecombe, Crewkerne and Honiton all having had or ongoing Engineering work required over the last few years. Cheers Pete
I very much enjoy your railway videos and would love to see an update to this one in the future! Being a train engineer in Canada, I love seeing the differences between our railway systems and generally love all things related to trains. Of course, I also love the history and all of the old buildings and tunnels along your railway lines.
Excellent video - just one minor correction, the single line working between Marple and New Mills has ceased for this part of the work so its an hourly all-stops service from Piccadilly to Marple in place of the New Mills service with buses connecting to Strines, New Mills Central and Chinley. Meanwhile New Mills passengers can also use New Mills Newtown on the Buxton line.
I like the occasional diversion, so please do drop a railroad video now and then! I had a manager who was a ham radio operator and loved to travel by rail, so he'd take a VHF radio along and listen to crew chatter and hotbox detectors. And my uncle was a railroad dispatcher who was quite good with a telegraph.
Thanks for this video and I would like to see an update. I believe this is happening in Los Angeles California rail systems also due to landslides which is about 500 miles from my Tucson, Arizona home. Have a great day!
I work at one of the larger UK freight operating companies and this closure has caused a lot of headaches over the past couple months as it's on one of the routes used to run freight into and through Manchester from the peak district quarries. All the freight which would normally run via this route has had to either be diverted via Stockport and run a much more long-winded route through Manchester, or just be cancelled out entirely.
Hague Bar, where my Dad used to walk me after watching for trains at the Waterside footbridge. The house on the corner of the junction used to be “The shop that sells the awful sweets”, these being Love Hearts with those provocative comments like ‘Be mine’. 😊
Goyt:one of those very English, usually monosyllabic, river names, like Ouse, that remind you that the English language has changed a lot over the centuries…
Fortunately in this particular case, the disruption is relatively small. The fast services from Manchester to Sheffield are unaffected, and the stoppers have been diverted to use the same route as the fast services, via Hazel grove. A problem east of New mills is considerably more disruptive. When that happens (for example the dam failure a few years back) sheffield to manchester passengers have to divert via Huddersfield.
Unfortunately we burnt our bridge's years ago when it comes to the woodhead line. It would basically have to be fully relayed between glossop/Hadfield and sheffield. Which will never ever happen. The alternative of diverting train via Hazel Grove is very reasonable in my opinion. And considering this is essential work to keep their line open for years to come, I'm sure the locals who use the stations won't mind a few months of closure.
@@CLWF3 There’s no need for it to be reopened. It principally carried coal traffic of which there is now none. There are no plans and no desire amongst the railway companies to reopen it. Plus there is the huge expense of either relocation of the electric cables through the new tunnel or reboring the old one. There is no money to do either.
I was in need of my fix of Ringway Manchester and when I logged in to see what was new, low and behold there wasn't a tower or antenna to be found! I am now trying to detox! 😵💫
Now imagine if there was a backup bypass route they could have used to keep traffic flowing... oh wait they did but the tories would never reopen the Woodhead because their godhead Thatcher forced it to shut to disrupt the miners and hamstring the whole coal thing...
Strangely enough in the UK 50-60 years ago we used to say "Landslide" frequently as well. The "Landslip" thing seems to have come in more recently. It makes it sound less catastrophic, almost accidental!
They had a similar problem on the Bluebell Railway, many years ago, just north of Horsted Keynes. They took away the embankment, (putting out the spontaneous fire that was the root of the problem) and when replacing the embankment, laced into it that red plastic full-of-holes matting stuff, which knitted the whole job together. It seemed to have worked, still there.
Personally I would have used concrete pin and blade structures further up which stop drift and water washing of earthworks and also a series of purpose built drain catches to stop over heavy water to divert into a culvert and drawn from the earthwork cleanly.
welcome to czech repubic where there is continuous disruption, lines blocked, single rail and constant large earth movers so that it's never possible to get on a train and go anywhere successfully on time and sometimes you just spend 2 hours looking for whereabouts of a suddenly nonexistent train and its incredibly complicated substitutions. Every year track gets removed an new track goes down, but usually on the same line so you are deluded to think--"ah, new rail--next year it should be smooth" and the next year the same operations repeat themselves, so you're still stuck on single rail, waiting, waiting , waiting for the line to clear.
Really well presented and informative - thanks very much - really enjoyed it :). I look forward to updates and being on the train again, though won't be able to compete with those aerial views!
long post , so grab a brew . i live in the area and as far as i know the banking has been known about for a few years , hell when i was at school i was told by a geology teacher about an area of track just outside of new mills central where the rails dont even touch the rail bed despite it being looked at several times. the wagons are now cutting through the bottom of the valley and causing a bit of mither as the road is not much more than a single track road with a fair few blind corners and sooner or later there will be a crunch. and at about 2 mins in the vid shows more works being done to the left side of the bridge where they are taking earth away from the banking as they landscape it to prevent further slippage on that side of the bridge , so you have wagons delivering stone (these are stones about the size of your head btw and im guessing the stones that go over the top are smaller etc) for one side and wagons taking dirt away from the other side . the kids park and allotments will be returned and made good if not better (cough) as the temp road has meant that a few sheds / fences have had to be removed or so i believe. and i spoke to a woman on site who turned out to be a geologist and i asked her what are the chances of the road building actually making the bank weaker with all the stone and heavy plant and causing the collapse they are trying to avoid she told me that the soil has been tested and it "should" take the weight of the works if they have there figures right. and the buses etc according to the ppl that have to use them seem to be somewhat random , ie there maybe a train or it maybe a bus but when either roll up is a lottery and if its a bus it may not get you to the next station in time for the train. the geologist did say that where the line is now isnt where they would put one now and after some 200 years the lines are showing there age and this what we have to deal with , so they are acutely aware that things are breaking down and when i said its all down to a bloke in a top hat who said "i can put a railway in there and build a bridge , pass me a pencil and ill work it out" , she said your right as man power wasnt an issue then.
Exactly same for me,like his style. It also highlights why air transport and marine cargo is at an advantage. Once you have the airports and support kit there is no need to repair the air or water although there are plenty of other challenges .
So do you ride the rails for fun, Lewis? Here in the states the rails are loaded with hobo's, drifters and the like. A few bad apples like the FTRA (Freight Train Riders of America). I'm good with the train videos. 8-)
At least they discovered the problem and closed the line. Here in the US, we have trains that have derailed and fallen off track because of problems like this. It always ends in an ecological disaster. It seems to always be a rail line near a creek or river. With all of extremely dangerous crap trains carry its always super bad.
Interesting work going on. Yes Please a up date on that work. I would like to know what type of radio comms they using for that cite. Do they have their own frequency ? I expect low power for talking around the cite . 73
I (and I suspect many others) would appreciate it if you would provide manually generated captions. In 2024 it’s the most basic sign of respect towards your audience who, for any number of reasons, may not be able to fully understand what you’re saying but would still like to follow along and engage. I couldn’t make out some of the town names you spoke and I was disappointed to see only autogenerated captions. Best
"The most basic sign of respect towards your audience"? That sentiment's a touch over the top, isn't it? A helluva lot more work to do, but I can understand that some of our place names can be very confusing if they just rush by in the commentary, especially the ones which aren't spelled at all like they sound! We have many shibboleths!
So here in the US landslides tend to be addressed pretty frequently with concrete nails - big pieces of steel driven into drilled holes in the hillside and then surrounded by pressure-forced concrete which is then faced with shotcrete. Do you have any insight on why the particular approach was chosen?
