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are you reusing footage? could have swore you talked about that wine red LPC before, i remember you saying you thought the thunderbolt was a reflection and talking about the allen keys
Trogley, the marks beneath the bridge on the routed gold top look like the marks from a 'dog bone' saddle used on really early Les Pauls. I owned one that seemingly had the bridge in a floating position on the dog bone plate. That guitar is pictured in Gibson Electrics, the Classic Years, A. R. Duchossoir book, page 42. That guitar was fitted with a Bigsby, but I recognized it from the wear and condition of the top, and the P 90 with the corner screws in the bridge position. It played like a dog, and I sent her down the road. Of course, had I known then it was one of the earliest Les Pauls, I would have kept it and had a luthier straighten it up, but I was playing for money then, and not making enough to have clunkers hanging around,,,,,,keep up the good work, Gibson mysteries,,,
+1 on this!! I even came down to see the upload date just to be sure it was a new episode. Then I started thinking where else I could have seen it but pretty sure it was here.
Add me to the roster of those who clearly remember Trogly realizing that was a cut-out and not just a reflection in a previous video. Hooray for recycling? 😁
if i had the money and proper tools i would get that routed out goldtop. I would route out the body a bit more cleanly so i could fit some new slabs of mahogany in it to fill it back up again, make the back all flush and give it a spray of clearcoat. it has lived a long rough life, i wouldnt be bothered by the battle scars it has endured but i would like to make it more like when it was new.
It might have been just the finish worn off the area of the higher frets access/playing area. I've an older Les Paul that also has heavy wear in the same area, a close-up photo would have really helped.
According to the PRS book I have the Les Paul's that were hollowed for Mary Ford were constructed by hollowing out the mahogany back before putting on the maple cap (although it might have been a mahogany cap). Ted McCarty was talking about these guitars with Paul, and that is what inspired the McCarty Hollowbody guitars which have that construction.
I think it is just representative of the make-do-and-mend 20th century approach. It seems 'authentic' in its way. Totally agree, no further so-called restorations. Pity the neck block isnt a bit longer. It is what it is. As you say, maybe the price could be 8 which would be great.
PAF pickups sound extremely well. Had an Ephiphone 335, that I did not like putting in the pawn shop. That was a bad mistake on my part, as far as tone goes in a Gibson, Epiphone, or any other brand of instrument uses. PAFs are a great pickup but any good wound pickup tone is fine.
Agreed He might have just used this as an opportunity to give the '54 Double Cut a bump since he's had it on consignment for a long while now. Either way, a Win-Win for Trogly Fans.
A buddy of mine showed me a 66 Jaguar that had screw holes all the way around the perimeter of the back of the guitar. He said they had a leather pad screwed to the back with what looked like pickgaurd screws when he got it. 🤦 I immediately thought of those grestch's that did that. Maybe whoever did it seen one and copied the idea?, idk. But man they killed the value of an otherwise better that mint vintage Jag. It was really nice other than that.
I think I just seen this . What?! Two in one day. 6:35 Its a smugglers guitar. Stuff it full of goods, put the back on it and place it back into its case. Who would look at the back of a solid body electric guitar?
Can be a fun restoration project. You'd just have to fill back the void with mahogany pieces, re-drill and then glue a slab of mahogany on the back so it kinda fix the look. Then refinish the back and front of the body to make it look not so bad.
Loved that SG - the wood grain just said "Take me home baby, I'm yours" lol (my bank balance said - not today idiot). The final Les Paul was fun and like you said, a total child of the 70s. A wine red Les Paul - ideally with the mini-buckers or P90s - is in my top 5 bucket list of guitars to get. However, back to the wood grain on that SG - simply gorgeous ❤❤❤
fun episode. i do like that double cutaway. the chambered model was actually pretty cool. i can't see why someone couldn't just put a new back on it. that would probably work out fine.
The chambered chipboard LP is basically trashed, perhaps worth about new Standard retail diven its age, natural wear and playability. The concept was good, but the execution was pedestrian at best. Unless you could authenticate this to a famous artist or sessions player, it is difficult to warm up to a value of even $6000, let alone the $15,000 asking price Given its cool frontal appearance and wear, if purchased for the right price, I would clean out the interior to a more professional appearance and counter-balanced weights added if there is any appreciable neck-dive in its current form. Rather than the chipboard back, crafting a piece of similarly-reliced nitro-finished mahogony for the back would be an awesome touch. You could have a genuine, unique vintage player that is tastefully one-of-kind.
The old gold top is a horror show. Its barley worth a dallor. Its stupid to hollow out a nice solid top and leave no body wave exhaust ports then screw on a back to top off the maddness. Like that it makes a soul crushing muffled sound with half the sustain. Its the kind of thing Chet Atkins wanted to get around. The guy had to be seen on T.V. and his axe always looked and sounded great. When people pay as much for an ugly hacked up antique guitar we are living in a truley sick and twisted world but maybe that's what makes it fun. I bet God loves Casino's. Dude, your show kicks gludious maximus.
These are the episodes I wait for ! Man I love the 53 .I'd take the neck and the top off and make a new back out of an old piece of mohogany to match .the job would be worth it but I don't think at that price
I would rather have the red LP that was converted to DC than to have that poor routed out Goldtop. I was around when these things were not worth much, so I understand how this happens, but it still makes me sad to see them. I'm glad Austin like his little chopped up creatures. :-)
That guitar belonged to my guitar teacher. He told me he had a 53 les paul and it was routed n on the back. I remember he showed it to me during a guitar lesson
Personally, it's worth 0 thousand dollars to me except as a parts source. The chance that this monstrosity would ever sound much like the real thing is likely 0. My best advice, parts it, sell them and get a real, un-F'ed with one, or find a basket case real one and use these parts to make a good one out of it. It's amazing what people do to these guitars. The worst rip-off is converting one of these to a 'Burst, with fake PAFs, of course, and trying to pass it off as a real one. I've seen these, and they usually look right at first blush, that is, until you do some closer looking and some some detective work.
15k, yeah, asking way too much for an utterly butchered example. Not sure how much it should be in the current market but I would say value of original parts + value of a (used) neck for someone looking to repair another '52 would be worth considering. Just too destroyed.
thats a hard one both lp are bad but your double cut has more wood it would be easier to fix, the routed out one really isnt a horible idea its like a rickenbacker how they route out the top and put a back on, yeah ill take the hollowed 53 i could clean it up and glue a back on. sorry your stuck with that double cut still haha
I know, right ?!?! I think there exist a couple websites out there dedicated to upsetting alterations and “repairs.” I lack the ability to laugh-along or chuckle at ‘em though. Parts of my nervous system &/or limbic system get triggered into “horror” mode. 😢
Why would you not just fill an glue on a mahogany back, route out the normal access points, and eliminate the screws ? Wouldn't be original but that's not an issue. $15,000 ? Nah...
double cutaway is def WAY BETTER than this hollowed out/ruined guitar. I dont see how anyone could do those mods. just buy a gretsch! the DC makes more sense. I would never do it tho.
