Just a request that the next time you tour a boat while she's out of the water, please take a minute or two to do a walkaround of the hull, rudder, and prop from outside. Zoom in on the thru-hulls, etc. A lot to be seen and learned from this.
As a boat builder (both wood and 'glass) for over twenty years, I'd avoid teak decks at all costs. They are too hot in the tropics to walk on barefoot and that heat makes the interior an inferno. Plus, their lifespan is usually about twenty years. By then, they've began leaking - which results in damaged deck core and eventually, stained interior wood damage. Most boat owners wait WAY TOO LONG before replacing a teak deck! Cost of replacing a teak deck at a boat yard is running $40 per SQUARE FOOT - and that does NOT count repairing rotted deck coring. If you love the boat and it has teak decks, the price needs to be a third less than the owner wants because you will be faced with removing all the sailtrack/deck hardware, chiseling up teak planking, removing thousands of screws (many break off and will have to be pulled out with clamping pliers), then grinding off the black mastic and repair the screw holes with epoxy mush and finally, re-glassing and covering with Kiwi Deck (or similar). It's a big job!!!! A boat yard will charge $15 - $20K just for this job on a 40' boat - and much more if there is rotted coring and interior ply. An awful lot of those boats built in the 1980s with teak decks are not worth repairing because there is so much hidden rot.
Teak will easily last 20 years if just kept clean and the leaks are a result of not keeping the seams in good shape or screws that are too long and go thru the under deck. If silvery white teak is too hot to walk on than so would be everything else.
A well-renowned Bob Perry design and one of John Kretschmer's favorite boats which is really saying something. Nice to see you move on from those plastic floating condos you've been focused on. Maybe consider mentioning the designer at the beginning of your tours as that is far more critical with regards to pedigree than some of the other issues mentioned which are unique to just that boat (dock box, dinghy, etc). Nice tour, please keep the classics coming!
I just want to say, I really appreciate these boat tours. It really gives some different perspectives to possibly consider when I am ready to start looking!
Nice video guys! We may be biased, but Passports are amazing boats! We liveaboard our Passport 42, Gemini, in San Fancisco Bay and we fall in love with her more and more each day. We are hoping to put together a boat tour video of our boat one of these days, I mean we’ve got tons of footage of her... Cheers!
Passport 40 has a good reputation among bluewater sailors and wannabes. It has a transom stern which is unusual for a Perry design. Look for deck issues as pointed out by other comments and corrosion on welds of stainless steel tanks. The deck issues can be very serious. East Asian stainless tanks are usually suspect after 15+ years. They often go bad at the welds or from poltice corrosion.
Great tour on a great Perry boat. This is my favorite passport 40 style with the v- berth ans stall shower. Great price with this low hour engine. The perfect blue water cruiser for the box. Thanks for the tour.
Jordan, The layout with head to port from sailboat data is the optional layout only shown on the later passport 41 version , I think I prefer this layout vs head in forepeak . The same source only show the inner / cutter forestay on the 41, a nice upgrade for this 40. This is going to be a nice buy for somebody. Cheers wArren
We cruised in a Passport 40, sold it in 1996. Ours did not have teak decks, also a somewhat different layout; but mostly the same. She sails like a dream, you only need one jib. Fond memories. Peace
If you want to reduce your work load lots avoid wooden boats, wood decks and wood generally. Ants in boat timbers and white ants in some are also to be considered. Wood rot is a pain. You lean on the cornice or the door trims and they fall apart. Get out of water and get a proper marine surveyor preferably lloyds acredited to check the boat before you buy. It may save you at least the survey costs. Also his list of recomended things that are missing or need attention is a great place to start. If boat is 15 years old consider replacing all the through hull fittings and ball valves. May not be necessary but most boars sink from leaky or broken through fittings. Replace and add extra bilge pumps with own electrical board directly to battery. Bypass all other electrics as you dont know the condition of the boats electrics. After that there is a good chance your boat will not sink when you are not on it. REMEMBER. ITS NEW TO YOU AND YOU REALLY HAVE NO IDEA OF ITS CONDITION. Best regards and good luck
First thing I see is wet staining at the teak deck fastenings , clear sign of failed screw bungs , important survey item , but great boat design and a fixable issue . Rest of interior as you said classic quality design in good. Condition Cheers Warren
Now, this is what interests me. Perfect boat for a single or couple. Not cramped and not too big. It needs some work, but as you said, "What older boat doesn't." Not exactly what I'm looking for, but very close. Thanks.
Excellent 1970's and early 1980's style boat. It reminds me of ones I have sailed or lived aboard , e.g. Newport 41, and its beautiful lines remind me of C&C boats of the 1970's and the more cruisy Niagara 35 and Aloha 34. I saw many of this sort of strong 40ish-footer sailed off shore between New England and places like Beaufort and Cape May. The midship location of the Diesel is a big plus in my opinion; both the Newport 41 and Catalina 30 of those years had it (and there was one smaller Canadian design I remember with the motor right up by the mast!). The bulwarks are terrific, though I didn't see too many scuppers...
Like the engine access, tired of yoga oil changes, nicky nak nak on the teak decks, cockpit seems a bit cramped, woodwork is excellent, price is reasonable, wish you had spent some time on the underside showing prop and keel. Any stains on the overhead? Chain plates accessible without destroying the cabinets? Bob Perry does design an excellent boat.
I would really appreciate it if you give you’re first impression of what it smells like when going down below into boats. It’s a good tell tale of possible issues.
Haha, well this one didn't smell really at all. That's a good thing. A lot of old boats smell like mold, head, or diesel. I think an "earthy" smell is a good sign of moisture where it shouldn't be and evidence of wood rot. Maybe I'll do this for the next one!
What a great thought to think about when touring boats... I will have to keep this in mind when I get ready to start looking... Although, smell is a big thing to me anyways. So if I walk into even an apartment complex and the common areas smell funny, I am gone! It is hard to get out!
I am in love with the interior layout and size but im not sure about the deck quality. a proper inspection with a cost to replace it and some price negotiations though and I think this could be a wonderful ship.
There difference between a sloop and a cutter has to do with the position of the mast. Sloops can still have a stay sail. The Rigging Doctor channel has a great demo of this.
Sloop one headsail while sailing normally. Cutter two headsails while sailing normally. Mast position has nothing to do with definition of what is a sloop and what is a cutter.
@@nickbenfell4327 I'm no expert but what I've seen tells me you're wrong. Starting from the bow, you draw a line at the 40% mark . If the the mast is forward of that mark then it's a sloop. Aft of that mark it's a cutter.
@@cecilpacetti1491 That is a very odd definition and in 60 years of sailing I have never heard of that one. It maybe in practice that it is true but it is not the DEFINITION of the difference between sloop and cutter.
@@nickbenfell4327 Please understand that I am strictly a couch sailor. The best explaination that I saw of this was from the Rigging Doctor channel. He describes the different sail plans in much detail.
@@cecilpacetti1491 Ok so what are his definitions of a schooner, a yawl, a ketch and can he define what a fractional rig is. I would be inclined to dismiss him if he cannot define those. I will define them for you if needs be. Enjoying the chat.
I’m currently restoring a twenty-five year old boat that had had a rotten teak deck removed ten years ago by the previous owner. Our issue now is that the work of refitting all the hardware ten years ago either wasn’t good or the glue sealing the hundreds of bolts has disintegrated. Some bolts had no sealant at all and daylight could be seen from below; also some backing plates were missing in dark hard to get to places. The smell was very damp, with some interior wood damaged; there were at least 50 leaky bolts; the foam behind headliners had turned to dust and a lot of the plywood board was black. We took out ten bucket loads of dust and all the vinyl and ply board. We are working through it and in a few weeks it should be leak-free and fresh. The smell has gone already. We are protecting the holes in the deck with an epoxy ring, which was missing from ten years ago. We are enjoying it, but it takes time. I’d be interested to see what is lurking behind the nice white bead board on the boat in the video. So the lesson - when removing the teak deck, even at great cost by a boat yard, don’t think that is the end of the challenge - check that the work on the new deck is being done meticulously, with high quality materials and that they have a quality control system to check every last bolt.
It's a nice boat, good use of space and a lot of boat for the length. I only have two reservations: engine location is going to be incredibly noisy with or without the noise insulation and that teak deck is going to be a lot of work. Those two things would deter me but others may love it. A look a the hull and keel would add to the review.
Beautiful boat. One concern is the water stains on the nav station. Deck fitting leak perhaps? Small effort to re-bed as long as no water damage. Otherwise, well laid out and quality workmanship. Love it.
Guys, I really enjoy your videos and hope you get your chance to sail off into the sunset someday soon! This is a very nice boat, of course I would get a full survey to find out what's happening under the teak deck. Design by Bob Perry is one of the best pedigrees one could ask for in a sailboat! I just want to mention your assertion that, because there's a place to connect an inner stay, then this would automatically be considered a 'cutter.' I believe the more accurate nomenclature is 'double headsail sloop,' or perhaps, 'sloop with a babystay.' (our British cousins would call it a 'Solent stay.') A cutter does have two headsails, true, but the design has more essential features. Mast placement farther aft than on a sloop. (Outer) Forestay mounted on a bowsprit. Extra hardware to control the staysail. In this case, I believe you're looking at a masthead sloop with a removable inner stay, more for a storm jib than for a proper staysail. Perhaps someone with more expertise than me, will speak up here. In any case, not to nitpick; after all, the whole premise of your channel is that you're novices 'learning the lines!' Keep up the good work!
Mentioning Bob Perry would have been appropriate...his designs speak for themselves...beautiful and good sailing. Decks need work, looks like missing bungs, some high spots even seen in video...big expense as some others have mentioned even with out core issues. Also agree with showing exterior below water line. These were built in Taiwan at a yard well known for quality.
Plan on tank replacement as well as the discussion of the teak decks. Plumbing is probably original too. Maybe a 60K refit. As for the layout, it has a great main cabin and galley, but plan on crawling into bed in which ever berth you pick. Then plan on maintaining all the wood on the deck each year.
I am sorry but do you just do these “boat tours” or you sail also? If you don’t have any intention of buying these boats do you have some kind of an arrangement with the selling party or you just video your viewing?
Phrf 138 is a little slow for a 40'. Capsize ratio is very good. Comfort rating is very good. Seems to be a really well built. Always get a pro survey.
Looks like a well designed and built boat and I would love to own her! Compare it with a shabbily constructed and permanently anchored house for about the same price and make your choice!!
were you as surprised as I was? Then again, it's in the water lately.....ryan and jessica are on number 2, sailing nahoa just popped out number 1, johan and malin just popped out number 1.....
@@CawffeeTyme Sailing Nanji just announced they are pregnant also. That is a lot of babies! Of course it has to do with the age of the sailing couples that we all watch on RU-vid. lol
Yep. Electrical, then a water maker. Those floor boards need a look. That's where I'd first look to keep my batteries, LiFePO4. Its probably noisy when the motor is running, but this is a sailboat. :-) Thank's for the update. Looking forward to what's next. David, Tampa, Florida.
@@johnnyhunter4345 Yup. Mechanical isn't hard, but lots of times its made hard, because you can't get to what you need to fix. Looks like this boat's engine mechanicals are a dream to work on.
Very smart tour. Congrats. Esp given you’re holding the camera. I wouldn’t call it a cutter though. The removable inner forestay is probably for a staysail. I’ve been aboard passports. They are solid boats.
Nice layout, some issues on the deck but nothing major. If I was shopping for a boat I would consider this one. We sailed a Privilege 615 Cat for many years but as we got older we we wanted to down size, we wanted something in the 22 to 27 feet range that was still blue water capable, something that would be comfortable for two people for weekend cruises and trips to the Bahamas from Key West. We ended buying a almost new Dana 24, what a beautiful boat, she is pricey, seaworthy, designed to sail in tough conditions, though she is comfortable, her layout is seagoing --- she's not a dockside entertainment center..
Tankage is not a word Commonly used in boating or RVing they are simply referred to as tanks. Just FYI! Again I do apologize for being so blunt, but someone needs to say it!
We’ve been seasonal sailors up here on Georgian Bay, and have several boats, when shopping for one the first thing we paid attention to going down below was the smell. It was always black water issues or diesel issues or even rot.
I'm really enjoying your Videos, and looking at various Boats is so much FUN! Question: wouldn't a Centrally located engine leak fumes into the lower deck? (who wants to smell oil and gas while they are eating or lounging?) Otherwise, there hasn't been a Boat on your Channel so far that I did not want to motor, Sail or Buy (if I had the means : ,) ! Nice Job and Thumbs Up Guys!
Don’t cover it. Pull it up and epoxy any holes. Then use a boat non skid meant for boat decks so it’s not slippery and not hot. That or get the custom glue down rubber fake teak. It’s expensive, but it’s awesome, doesn’t get hot and lasts long time with zero maintenance
And the designer, Bob Perry, usually offers owners unlimited consulting for a reasonable annual fee. Which can answer lots of "wtf?" questions. I think the late Patrick Childress (RIP) and his partner sailed Brick House, another P40, and posted on YT.
Nice boat but the engine in the main saloon put's me off. I understand why it was placed there to be near the longitudinal center of mass/balance fore and aft but I imagine you would have to wear ear protection when you went in the salon with the engine running no matter how well you insulated it. Maybe I'm wrong but I would have to hear it run before I would consider buying it.
Not to be a dick, but a spinnaker pole controls a fore sail while a gin pole is shore mounted device used to step or un-step your mast. Nice boat for the price.
Very nice, however you cursery walk through showed leak stains throughout, meaning teak decks are shot, possible leaking ports etc. The asking price is high considering. the clear lines on the tanks are yellow, etc. So I would offer 50k.
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Depends to what you compare it... for this brand and quality, it is a very reasonable asking price. Look at comparable (mostly European, but also Island Packet, Cabo Rico etc.) boats - not Hunters, Catalina etc...
Most Passports no matter the age are over six figure boats. Something of the 1984 vintage one probably would have a hard time financing. Might be a bit misleading to label any Passport as affordable
Recently monohull boats are sellling for peanuts. James from zingaro just got a 48 foot oyster for 60,000. Thats a top quality big boat. Think about that.
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