This Beefy E-Bike is Essentially a Motorcycle with Pedals 

I don't think this is blurring the line on anything. The first motorcycles were just bicycles with engines put on them.

Hey, this is the guy who bought the bike from you 👋😁. I'm at 400 miles and have some updates lol. All 400 miles are on Denver city streets and trails. 39 miles- realized the grating under the headlight makes it worthless. The grate distorts the light and casts the pattern onto the road. Bought an 8000 lumen bar light and disconnected the stock light so I can still use the back light at night without seeing the grate pattern lol 67 miles- added tannus armor and slime after my 3rd flat, the tubes are really really thin. 131 miles- the front mud guard fell off. 188 miles- rear brakes failed. Checked pads and realized they weren't fully seated over the disk and had worn a groove until they couldn't connect. Got new pads and seated properly. 247 miles- rear mud guard fell off 315 miles- stitching on grips started coming out 346 miles- front brakes failed. Disk bent. Replaced disk. I have done range tests and it gets 30 miles on throttle only, not 40. If you keep it on pas 2 which limits it to 20mph and don't touch the throttle it gets 65 miles range though. Other than that it's been a great ride. It's too cold for me to ride now so I took the battery and back wheel/motor off and brought them inside and the rest of it is on a hook in the garage lol. Will definitely remain in the line up next season though.

Great video guys - informative,honest,no nonsense.

Great video, editing, info, pace.

You guys do real informative reviews, thanks!

love the honesty

I got this bike the all black version which I modded it to a 72v 5000w with a 150a controller and it's a beast

The Philodo H8 has two 1000 watt motors and two batteries, one for the front and back wheels, top speed of 35 MPH and PAS range of 62 miles, 40 without PAS, with fat stubbies. I ordered two of them for me and my wife to ride the beach here in NC.

looking awesome

My home built, 1989 Diamond Back db has 48v 20a 1500w will cruise over 30mph for 25m, modified the front wheel to stop the wobble... Yours is a great looking bike. To bad you can't modify anything.

I wish it had a bench seat and a rear rack like my Juiced Scorpion, the lack of a rack is really what keeps me from changing to another more motorcycle looking ebike.

Good job on your review! Thanks.

With moving to illinois, I want this for travel

Turn your quick release levers facing up always. Down is a good way to hit an object and loose your wheel

Great Review 💥 Bee Challenger 750W now $1999 and 1000W is $2499 and FREE BONUS TRAILER ! ! !

My favorite features on this e-bike are the horn and turn signals. Why are our bicycles not made to be more compatible with street environments? Our bicycles are still basically children's toys, from a traffic safety perspective.

Perfect Review!!! I’m looking for something as a gift. You think this bike will be good for heavy riders??

Dang, I was expecting more than a 48v and 1000w on dat thing

That's really cool but I feel like a shunt mod or even a new 2kw hub motor and controller would make this thing a lot better.... Definitely look for better forks, maybe street tires and a good alarm system built into the frame if it's going to be treated like a motorcycle.

Awesome flamingo shirt 👍

MOTORCYCLE STYLE TANKS are on a lot of ebikes already. like Super 73 S and R series, G-Force ZM, and many others...

Mine came with no Fenders but it looks cooler without . Just posted speed test

Bee-Challenger is $1999 for 750W48V30AH, With A frame capable of big loads and hiway speeds! This is best bike for a DIY e-motorcycle. I'd get the 750, swap it for a 5KW motor, go 72V, tag it and ride it on the interstates!

Thanks i was considering this bike for $2,000 but now I don't think so. Any suggestions? I need 3 bikes for our family. I have two already, a EUY S4 26ah, and Ridstar 21ah. What should be a third? The EUY was $1450 delivered and Ridstar $1,050. Any suggestions for my third bike? Needs to have same capabilities as other two, and is more for playing around on slightly hilly gravel roads and our level fields. Thanks!

that headlight is a $20 headlight from aliexpress. I bought the same one for my motorcycle. the shocks are $40 bucks on aliexpress.

Nice bike.

E cars- we're not really ready yet; E bikes- hell yes !

One of the first things I thought upon seeing the bike was the Karen freaking out on a trail angle.

Very obviously put together as a style statement.

Nice looking bike. However, ... 1. Seat comfort and height adjustment is important to me (learned that from owning two e-bikes). I've had to purchase aftermarket parts and seat for both. 2. No space for a rear rack is kind of a deal killer for me. For long rides, you want most of your stuff on a rack instead of on your back. 3. They should have made the 'tank' (battery) removable, that's like e-bike 101 for selling points. One of my e-bikes weigh's 90lb. with the battery (thank goodness I don't have to store it where stairs are). As stated in the video this is a major negative selling point for apartment dwellers. 4. Brakes, sound like they should have used the Tektro brand to start out with like other e-bike dealers use.

I wonder if the battery gets hot on sunny/hot days. Is there ventilation? You can't remove the battery to charge it at an office or in your home. It's also not good to leave the battery in cold weather. So if you are in an area where winters are very cold, you'd have to move the whole ebike inside rather than park it in your garage, or risk damaging the battery.

Hi guys, in Spain (and other Eu countries) the power limit of an electric scooter is 1000w (nominal power), so, could you please make a video with all the E-scooters that match that power (like the new Apollo City Pro 2022, or the WideWheel Pro). Thanks very much guys!

I hope they address the issues pointed out in the Challenger 2. Also I’d like to see a second 1000w geared hub motor in the front with an extra 30Ah fitted into the crevices in the frame. 15Ah in each crevice gives one 60Ah, and it would be an extra bonus if the Volts were higher, but not a deal breaker.

What full-face helmet are you using?

Form over function. Looks great, no way I, as an engineer, want that battery mounted way up high; it dismisses the concept of keeping a low center of gravity. But I can afford it, so I may get one for the days when I just want to look snazzy. Nameen?

I would so do a range test tour if they sent me one.

I don't think the travel of the fork is measured like you did it. Is it? I see what you mean though with it bottoming out.

When are you guys gonne get the WEPED DARKKNIGHT scooter

I need the flamingo shirt in the worst way

It has pedals to make it meet the legal parameters, so comparing it to an electric bike meant to be also a pedal bike is like comparing apples to oranges. It is meant to be a legal electric moped, period, period.

Where can I buy it

About the same speed as my razor dirt bike but that range though! I’ve never tested my range but I think it will only do like 10-15 miles with a 28ah 48v battery

If it had a 3,000 watt motor & 72V battery system they would sell much more. Everyone's afraid of speed and cost

It’s nice but it’s no juiced hyper scrambler 2 with 100+ of range I love my juiced bike!!

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Have you guys tested the Piaggio Ciao EV kitted mopeds? Classic moped outside with EV running gear. Expensive at around €5000 but oh so retro.

how do you turn on the light

Most states do not require e bikes to be registered tagged or require a drivers license and restrict speeds to 25 to 30 mph. And do not allow class 3 e bikes on the road or multiple use trails. People like this are going to force states ti increase their restrictions to at least moped standards. Where in most states they have the same requirements as motorcycles.

I just ordered a smart travel e-bike Basically a YYG i wish i would’ve seen this its so sexy i dont care how heavy i gotta garage its so cuteee

please do a onewheel get review

@JimmyChang..is that a Demon Podium full face you're wearing? Why did you leave the round Large "L" size sticker on? 🤣

The biggest problem I see is that you won't be able to use bike trails or even bike lanes. It's practical in so many ways; who needs quick-release hubs when it makes your wheels easy to steal? The front and rear suspension look like they would make for a comfy ride.

I never like big balloon tires on an ebike.

To be fair, it's far lighter than any Motorcycle. Also, this bike is a beast and I love it!

Get your motor runnin...Head out on the highway...Lookin for adventure....

Whats the toop speed again?… i think i missed that part

Does it ever get cold in Colorado?

That is a good looking bike but I would like to know what it's like to ride it unassisted! I love my E-bike but I once rode until I depleted the battery and had to push the 80# beast 4.5 miles because without battery power it's virtually unrideable! Mine has similar gearing as this one!......Oh! And once I got home I had to carry it up the stairs to my apartment! (Again 80lbs after pushing it 4.5 miles!)🙄😆

Not even at the time of making was that the biggest battery on a ebike

Shoot, I thought maybe someone responded by making an electronic/gas bicycle. Oh well.

Its Clearly a larger version of Sonder e bike

I really like it but I need it must run up to 50 miles per hour and range up to at least 300 miles per charge. And charging time must be no longer than 2-3 hours.

On the lower end? It is the lowest end.

You should mention anything above 750w is legally a motor vehicle not a bike.

Ghost pedaling than ??

I bought a dual 1Kw Philodo H8 that does 35mph and cost half the price...

"Electric ride-able device." lol

Battery Not Removable?

Looks like a nice bike you could mod to make better, my only issue is that if they are lying about the front forks you have to ask what else are they lying about and it makes me think about the battery as that is the most obvious other area to lie about

. Large battery = More cells in parallel = more chance of battery go boom.

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Looks pretty dope. But it's ridiculous not to have a 52V battery at this point, and it seems to have shit components. They need to try again, and quit skimping. If this appeals to you, get an Ariel RIder X-Class or Grizzly, or a Spark Bandit -- which are also heavy, sturdy, moped-y e-bikes, but way less chintzy.

I really wish they would stop making ebikes look like motorcycles your gonna get pulled over alot more for no reason

Immediate takeaway: frame is too heavy and battery is not removable. Top speed is 33mph which is about the speed of a super 73. Suspension bottoms way out.

I own a MadMod Scrambler. I like this bike, but failing to have a banana seat is a big deal. With a long seat, I can bring my kid to school before going to work. With this bike, well, I'd just pass, as it's not functional enough. I can give my kid a ride on my MadMod Scrambler.

the thing about upsetting karens on my ebike is that I just don't stop or aknowledge them at all, its the only way to deal with them really, just don't give their temper tantrums any validity.

I would have to put a 3000 watt hub motor on the front !

This is not jimmy chan channel

Wow, "2 or 3 times heavier"? 106/2 = 53 lbs. Name a full suspension, 1000W30AH bike anywhere weighing 53 lbs or less! Rest of review seemed as critical as possible, so thanks for your opinions. Yes, fenders look flimsy. Seat looks hard. Headlight bolts too long. Battery not removable. Maybe this bike is intended for people with garages? I'd like to see a review on the ANIIOKI AQ177 60AH Stepthru E-Bike w/full suspension, It's $1999 on Amazon and weighs 112 lbs...

A "Karen"? Great battery capacity. Wish it had 2000W.

400lb load on a 100lb bike with only a 1000w motor. I bet it moves slowly at weight capacity.

Illegal in Australia, asking for trouble if the cops can actually catch u

Why does it have pedals, it is an electric motorcycle?

nonremovable battery on any ebike is a instant pass. batteries need to be in climate controlled space for longevity

You guys need to ride an ONYX.

Anyone who sees this already guessing this is a motorcycle vroom vroom

Guarantee full throttle riding will only get maybe 20 miles. I have a ride up E- bike with a1400 amp hour battery And at 30 miles an hour I can only get 18 miles out of the bike. It weighs 70 pounds also. So I highly doubt you’re going to get 40 miles. They’re claiming 60 to 90. If you paddle at downhill and never hit the throttle you might be able to get 60 miles, L O L

The frame looks cool, but you'd probably have a helluva time getting a U-lock around it. Chain locks only. They're currently selling it with a free cargo bag, but I don't see where you'd put it? There's no rack... Not being able to remove the battery and bring it in to a climate-controlled environment is an immediate "No."

It’s not a bicycle. It is a motorcycle. If you put pedals on either side of a dump truck, it doesn’t make it a bicycle.

here lies Patent Law 1474-2022 t'was a good run

I wouldn't buy any ebike that I can't take the battery off... especially if I don't have a garage. Heat and cold greatly effect lithium batteries. They sacrificed look for functionality.

Heavyduty

You never went up hill....

1st! 🫡

That front fork looks like a safety liability.

Looks nice but not very practical.

pillow over that terrible "seat"

Honestly I’ll keep my Aventon. My looks like a bike and definitely doesn’t pretend to look like a motorcycle. It’s plenty fast, performs perfectly, and looks beautiful. Don’t care for these pretend motorcycles

Campground commuter

This bike seems to have a lot of design flaws.