This bird solved a major mystery

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Stuart Goldsmith, Sophie Ward and Katie Steckles face a question about a question about a solution provided by a stork.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcast.com
GUESTS:
Stuart Goldsmith: ‪@stuartgoldsmithcomedy‬, / comcompod
Sophie Ward: ‪@SophsNotes‬, / sophsnotes
Katie Steckles: ‪@KatieSteckles‬, www.finitegroup.co.uk/
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2024.

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@TaylerJDust Месяц назад

I used to be a stork like you, but then I took an arrow to germany

@Pingviinimursu Месяц назад

Nice, can't believe I feel nostalgia for these jokes 😂😅

@__dane__ Месяц назад

Was expecting a joke about the weight of an unladen swallow

@myladycasagrande863 Месяц назад

An African swallow or a European swallow?

@blockmath_2048 Месяц назад

@@myladycasagrande863 I don't know that!

@metropod Месяц назад

@@blockmath_2048 off the cliff you go...

@paulthomas8262 Месяц назад

well you need to deduct the coconut.

@hairyairey Месяц назад

@@blockmath_2048 aaarrggghhhh!

@grmpf Месяц назад

It's kind of wild until how relatively recently we didn't know about this and even wilder just how strange some of the theories about what happened to the birds were. And: Sophie is right, the very stork from this question was taxidermied and is still on display in the Zoological Collection of the University of Rostock.

@caffeineau Месяц назад

I wonder if it died of natural causes, or someone thought "oohh that would be nice in my museum and 'collected' it". Pretty unfortunate for the stork; "Yes, I've survived being shot through the neck! I'm the luckiest bird alive!". Next minute...

@JohnDoe-ti2np Месяц назад

Yes. I was amazed a few years ago when I learned of the so-called "barnacle goose myth." I still have trouble believing that anybody seriously believed this myth, but apparently many people did.

@alveolate Месяц назад

this makes all the hooplah about "scientists not knowing where eels come from" (they do now) a lot less silly

@UngodlyFreak Месяц назад

Yeah, you'd think that some European colonialists would have noticed that the African colonies had same kinds of birds during winter as Europe has during summer and then just put two and two together. Or maybe they did notice that but it never became common knowledge?

@grmpf Месяц назад

@@caffeineau You're right in assuming the worst for the stork. It was discovered by people who lived on the grounds of the Schloss Bothmer palatial manor in Klütz and subsequently killed there, allegedly by Christian Ludwig Reichsgraf von Bothmer (Imperial Count whose estate this was) himself. He then had it sent to the Grand Ducal Taxidermy Workshop, which was apparently a thing, at the Grand Ducal residence in Ludwigslust. Shortly thereafter, Grand Duke Friedrich Franz I handed it over to the Zoological Collection in Rostock where it has been for most of the past 200+ years.

@LupinoArts Месяц назад

I actually knew that one before, but having wikipedia'd it (thanks for the Search term 'pfeilstorch'), I just learned that there are actually 25 recorded "Pfeilstörche" by now. Wicked.

@alveolate Месяц назад

smh the younger generation of african hunters these days just aren't the same

@geocider22 Месяц назад

I think this was the first time that I knew the answer before the question was even finished. I guess watching all of that QI actually paid off!

@hannahk1306 Месяц назад

That's where I knew it from!

@bettyswallocks6411 Месяц назад

Same.

@greensteve9307 Месяц назад

Ditto!

@kayleighlehrman9566 Месяц назад

The stork was wounded such that it lost all its feathers, and was thus a man.

@seselis625 Месяц назад

Ngl my mind also went here 😂😂

@rolfs2165 Месяц назад

Happy Diogenes noises?

@Amanda-C. Месяц назад

Aw, I knew this one! That's the arrow-shot stork that proved it had passed over some part of Africa, demonstating seasonal migration.

@robertjarman3703 Месяц назад

Oh, so it isn't The Galactic Core sending a conceived egg to the fallopian tubes of Sailor Moon to give birth to her daughter. Good to know.

@1FatLittleMonkey Месяц назад

what.gif

@empath69 Месяц назад

Of course not! That'd be silly... ...it's The Galactic Core sending a conceived egg to the Fallopian tubes of Sailor Moon to give birth to her *mother*. FAR more sensible.

@SenshiSunPower Месяц назад

Is that something that actually happened?

@_D_P_ Месяц назад

These anime fetishes never cease to fascinate me.

@robertjarman3703 Месяц назад

@@SenshiSunPower In the manga, yes. Galactic cauldron means the source of her power, and she does have a daughter. People hardly complain about magic conception of Mary, why are they complaining about a super heroine?

@erictaylor5462 Месяц назад

I once helped a goose family by rescuing the babies. Later that season the mother or father goose landed by me to show me the babies that were much bigger now, then later still the entire goose family landed to show me the babies had learned to fly (though one baby was missing). The following spring one of the geese landed near me and waited, they wanted to show off their new babied.

@bethhumphreys110 Месяц назад

Aristotle's sandals hanging on the telephone pole is the best..

@villehietala9677 Месяц назад

In that time, it would have been more of an Asterix-style situation, where you find the empty sandals on a path that messengers were using 🤔

@nanardeurlambda Месяц назад

5:55 I think my favorite hypothesis was "they must grow from plants that simply don't grow during winter!"

@SmallBlogV8 Месяц назад

I'm pretty sure this was on QI years ago, which is probably the bell that's ringing in their heads.

@peperoni_pepino Месяц назад

Reminds me of a certain Monty Python scene. Is a spear much heavier than a coconut?

@hebl47 Месяц назад

Well, it depends: An Indonesian or a Brazilian coconut? But at least there's no problem about the grip.

@MadSwedishGamer Месяц назад

Depends on the spear, but a stork is a good bit bigger than even an African swallow.

@DasGanon Месяц назад

Katie basically gets it then everyone gets derailed.

@Jenthura Месяц назад

ikr? I thought I saw frustration on her face, could just be me projecting.

@hairyneil Месяц назад

From the opening paragraph on Wikipedia: As of 2003, about 25 Pfeilstörche have been documented in Germany. 25?!

@eshiffer Месяц назад

My favorite medieval theory to explain disappearing birds was that certain geese (which migrate to the Arctic to nest) actually hatched out of barnacles.

@olivier2553 Месяц назад

I thought about migration immediately because we have a French thriller novel built around storks migration.

@andrewgrant6516 Месяц назад

Am now singing Detective Pigeon to the tune of Inspector Gadget. Thanks for that.

@dliessmgg Месяц назад

before watching any answering: the debate was about what storks are doing when they're not around. this was a famous stork that got wounded somewhere in africa, and then did the yearly migration up to germany.

@dliessmgg Месяц назад

eh, close enough

@KernelLeak Месяц назад

Fruit flies like a banana, Time flies like an arrow, Der Pfeilstorch probably just wanted To have this arrow removed... :(

Месяц назад

That does not rhyme...

@sidarthur8706 Месяц назад

yo he's carried on with it. i'd hoped he would, tihs is one of the best ideas he's had

@renedekker9806 Месяц назад

The most amazing is a quote from the Wikipedia page: "As of 2003, about 25 Pfeilstörche have been documented in Germany" Apparently, this is a common thing that happens.

@YourBuddyDinec Месяц назад

"What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen stork?"

@Forr0n Месяц назад

I can walk to the castle, where it was found, from my home. I love the story and the fact that since then nothing really exciting has happened here.

@nariu7times328 Месяц назад

Love this show and podcast! Just such intelligent fun!

@markchapman6800 Месяц назад

It's really weird that Katie's vague recollection was 90% of the way there, but they proceeded to wander off. I almost expected Tom to get it immediately.

@demis9879 20 дней назад

and here i was thinking about coconut migration xd

@hannahk1306 Месяц назад

I actually knew this one! When Katie said that she remembered something about a spear, that confirmed it. Although, I can't quite believe that someone came up with "fly to the moon" before "fly to another country"! 😆

@rillab Месяц назад

Remember folks: some things that are basic knowledge to us now can be that because people like Aristotle were thinking about it and found the answer. This one needn't have been a difficult question either, it just took people a bit longer to find the answer.

@andyt2510 Месяц назад

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle....

@greensteve9307 Месяц назад

...And Hobbes was fond of his dram...

@yaroslavkurgansky6205 Месяц назад

Crazy to think that in the 19th century we didn't know where birds go, and in the 21st century we have AI that operates through silicon chips that we made. The progress made by humanity in just two centuries is unbelievable

@ab-mc2nq Месяц назад

ok i'm 20 seconds in and i fully expect the answer to be "where do babies come from?"

@petertaylor4980 Месяц назад

The alternative hypotheses mentioned near the end are positively mild compared to some of the ideas people used to have about animal lifecycles. Hint: why is a barnacle goose called that?

@Slikx666 Месяц назад

Finally one I knew. But I was sure Kate or Tom would have got it straight away.

@sophiamarchildon3998 Месяц назад

Initial thoughts: the navigation method, magnetic, sunlight based, dead-reckoning, memory, etc. Or if they could only stand/sleep on one leg? But that's not very Lateral. My bet is on magnetic navigation for those. And then is it if they would set/land away from shallow water?

@sophiamarchildon3998 Месяц назад

Results: it was far more basic than I was expecting; and in a lot of ways not Lateral enough. By the early 19th century and the whole globe circumnavigation and mapping, surely this would have been supported by proof before.

@hyderabbitjuega5962 Месяц назад

Is this about where does birds go on winter? I have just heard the question and i think that is the answer.

@murphygreen8484 Месяц назад

As a Yank, I'll never get tired of the brits here saying Stok

@lucbloom Месяц назад

Where birds go in the winter; the stork had an African spear in its neck

@TonyLambregts Месяц назад

Came looking for this comment.

@stapler942 Месяц назад

That's about the most metal piercing I can think of. Even if it's mostly wood.

@deafeningoctopus Месяц назад

The fact they used to think birds migrated to the moon is honestly kinda cute

@andrewgrant6516 Месяц назад

It's why their feet smell of cheese.

@myladycasagrande863 Месяц назад

@@andrewgrant6516how often do you smell birds' feet?

@MaxFlorian1001 Месяц назад

@@myladycasagrande863 "Yes"

@JOCoStudio1 Месяц назад

Im shocked they took so long. Id never heard of this stork before but that was the obvious answer

@Hupfen Месяц назад

finally someone mocked up Detective Inspector Bird

@peterstockhausen8806 Месяц назад

Bird Law?

@mikelocalypse Месяц назад

I understand the baby reference, but was dissapointed there wasn't one mention of coconuts 🤔

@konstantin_d.m Месяц назад

I JUST thought, a lateral video would complete my evening :)

@sandwich2473 Месяц назад

This is one of those ones I knew right off :P

@ParametricGold Месяц назад

I thought this was already mentioned in an earlier episode, or in the comments of an earlier episode.

@davimurph Месяц назад

You have a very positive view of Aristotle, a man who believed women had fewer teeth than men but didn't bother counting.

@Becky_Cooling Месяц назад

Knew this one instantly

@abigailcooling6604 Месяц назад

0:09 Gonna need to sit this one out - think I've heard this before. Edit: Yes! My random knowledge of 19th century storks is correct.

@bettyswallocks6411 Месяц назад

So, it was a _stork_ that dropped the tortoise on Aeschylus’s head?

@goldenmooshroomgirl6795 Месяц назад

Here when most of the comments are bots. Can't wait to be proven how idiotic I am once more!

@tld8102 Месяц назад

The thumbnail makes tom look younger

@Myrtanae Месяц назад

As a German, this is a rather well known story. Nonetheless, Kodus to you all 😊

@erictaylor5462 Месяц назад

Sometimes murder is called fowl play. Perhaps the bird solved a murder mystery.

@MountainHawkPYL Месяц назад

What is the velocity of an injured stork? African or European?

@dianefields6056 Месяц назад

First one I've ever known.

@VirtuellJo Месяц назад

This one I knew thanks to QI. I guess there is where Katie and Tom got it from too.

@erikverhoef5718 Месяц назад

Same here.

@erikverhoef5718 Месяц назад

Series K, episode 7.

@rob-c. Месяц назад

It was on QI. I just assume Katie (and possible Tom) saw it on that.

@asac159 Месяц назад

QI, just before Steven Fry left!

@aenorist2431 Месяц назад

Migration? Was it a Stork that was identifiable due to injury, which had been in Africa? We did not have solid, irrefutable evidence of our birds being the same birds we can see in Africa in Winter. Long distance migration was a hypothesis for very long times.

@epimorphism Месяц назад

migration patterns

@erikverhoef5718 Месяц назад

QI series K, episode 7

@younganderson7777 Месяц назад

wasn't this on an earlier episode?

@JasperJanssen Месяц назад

Maybe it was on QI?

@27pattywhack2 Месяц назад

@erikverhoef5718 Месяц назад

@@JasperJanssen It was. Series K, episode 7.

@wafaatqiya Месяц назад

Was it something about immigration? Like it was an unrecognisable bird and turns out the wound was from an an african arrow or something, proving the theory that birds immigrate.

@wafaatqiya Месяц назад

OH I WAS RIGHT BUT SAID IMMIGRATION INSTEAD OF MIGRATION 😭😭😭

@wafaatqiya Месяц назад

OMG I WAS CORRECT ABT THE AFRICAN ARROW TOO 😭😭 IWAS JUST GUESSING

@wafaatqiya Месяц назад

Probably heard abt it somewhere once but forgot lol