I had a funny idea, Morrigan gets into Street Fighter 6, but as the same 2D sprite we all know and love to stay true to the tradition, there’s even a “Who framed Roger Rabbit” meme where Morrigan explains to Eddie Valiant that work has been kinda slow since video games have gone 3D, but Morrigan claims she’s still got it and Eddie agrees. The Megaman fakeout in the beginning was pure comedy gold, you earned my subscribe for that! I’d like to throw Breath of Fire in there as well too and going by the Capcom Survey Results, Dino Crisis.
@@brandonwilliams6119 It really would’ve been funny if in Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom and her other appearances past that, they somehow made her the only 2D character and it was still her old sprite XD
Great vid but I disagree with that arguement you made at the end. Translating that sprite art to 3d would be super tough but Capcom could absolutely do it. They have the budget and the talent to make it work, stylized 3D is better than its ever been rn with shit like spiderverse, puss in boots, that new tmnt etc
@@spaceace9103 I don’t disagree, like I said, they could do something like what ArcSys did for Guilty Gear Xrd or DBFZ, but it would probably be too expensive for a game that would only appeal to mostly hardcore fighting game fans.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Anakaris has jumping attacks that have limbs sprouting out of the ground. Also from what little I saw of MVCI, Jedah’s command throw no longer has him pumping opponents full of blood before they pop. I’m definitely in the corner that the current graphic style wouldn’t do this series any favors.
@@YeldellGWGuilty Gear Strive does that stuff very well with 3D models. I think the real issue is that it makes it harder to make alternate costumes that Capcom can sell for way too much money.
What do you mean when you say current graphic style? Do you mean what theyre doing with sf6? Because I agree would not want a Darkstalkers with that artstyle. I was thinking they could just have a different art direction that mimics the sprite and 2d art made for the Darkstalkers games@@YeldellGW
Honestly, Skullgirls is basically the modern day Darkstalkers if you think about. If a new Darkstalker was to be made nowadays, it would transition better by going for the gorgeous 2D hand-drawn animation style that Skullgirls does. Most, if not all of the attacks and animations in Skullgirls also wouldn’t translate that well into 3D if attempted. However, the hand-drawn animation style used for the game allows for such crazy and over-the-top animations to visually work while still being beautiful rendered with crisp fluid movements. If Darkstalkers walked so Skullgirls could run, then Skullgirls has now given Darkstalkers a chance to potentially sprint by having Darkstalkers go from pixelated sprites to hand-drawn animations if done correctly. It would allow Darkstalkers to update its looks for modern games without sacrificing its fully 2D fighter roots and wacky animations in the process. As for popularity, all it takes is a good marketing push towards ann ideal audience that’ll fully appreciate the type of universe that Darkstalkers is. Plus, some good crossover DLC won’t hurt either. Imagine a new Darkstalkers game with Dante, Lady Dimitrescu, and other Capcom characters as DLC fighters for it. It would definitely turn a few heads into noticing the franchise.
Very heavily disagree with a lot of the sentiment on Capcom "not being able to" make a new Darkstalkers game, one specific argument you brought up was in the cases of Dmitri's midnight bliss transformation, or Lord Raptor's hell dunk, when both use visual effects to hide the transitions from the characters sprites to the move specific sprites. Also a lot of advancements have been made in the field of 3D animation, especially in regards to ArcSystemWorks games like Guilty Gear and DND Duel, which were built on much smaller budgets and a smaller team than your average Capcom game. Even if they don't go the 3D route, games like Skullgirls, Under Night, and Melty Blood Type Lumina have shown that people are still very receptive to good 2D animation. Ultimately the only reason we will never see a new Darkstalkers game is because Capcom doesn't want to make one, whether it be because they don't see the financial return or because they just don't care, Capcom no longer cares about this franchise and it's a fact I have long accepted. Cool video though! It's always great when people talk about this sick series.
Yeah. I can see the hesitation in capcoms ability to capture DS zaniness in a new game at this point in time, but they've been vocal for years now that the reason they don't is that, after Ono, (who's proposals met heavy opposition despite reviving that side of capcom) i guess no one in the fighting game division feels like it even now.
Surprised there was no mention of the Capcom Fighting Collection which was released in 2022. Half of the games on them were Darkstalkers games. Plus those games were featured on Capcom Arcade Stadium 2 which was released a month later.
Darkstalkers was Guilty Gear before Guilty Gear was Guitly Gear. Remember it! I'm still SUPER mad Talbain hasn't been put into any Capcom VS to this day. Any crossover even. The most we get is Ammy with pants. We absolutely need a Darkstalkers 4. I miss the series so bad. Oh, and as far as general interest goes, yeah you might want to take a look at the recent Capcom survey. When it comes to new games in old IPs, Darkstalkers was in top 10. The interest is clearly there.
But like Thorgi revealed in his video about the Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classic it doesn't matter if the fans want it or the developers want it it comes down to if the higher-ups at Capcom want it.
@@derrickhaggard Yep, that's why I say they should see the survey. They most likely won't, but it's done now. The higher ups at these companies don't even know their own games and audiences, they just see numbers. So yeah, it's really a sad situation in the end. Everyone wants it, but the CEO is just like "play it safe, more RE, MH, and SF" while every other IP suffers. One positive though, same survey also had "what's your biggest issue with Capcom" and something among the lines of "not reviving old IPs" was at the very top when it comes to complaints. So here's hoping that actually means something. You can check the results easily if you're curious. Just google "Capcom survey results 2024". It should be there.
@@FieryAnubis No argument there I mean we're getting a Dead Rising 1 Remaster and a remaster collection of the OG releases of Resident Evil, RE2, and RE3 when the survey showed that fans want a remaster or remake of Dino Crisis 1.
So I think it was spoken about super recent, but Ruby Heart was pretty much made with MvC2 in mind, even going as far as ALMOST getting her own game years later, only for it to be canceled.
@@BrothaKyo I feel like also she could’ve been made as a tribute to one of Capcom’s first arcade games in 1984, Pirate Ship Higemaru, just like SonSon in that game, who’s also a tribute to the 1984 game SonSon. Don’t know how Amingo pays tribute to Vulgus or 1942 though XD
She did get a weird Japan only mobile game iirc. But we're talking early smartphone years, and even around that time Japan was still rocking flip phones at large i believe so... Us foreigners can only guess at how that ended up
Were waaaay overdue for a Darkstalkers 4. I'm really curious to what type of concepts they would be able to come up with the newcomers and the evolution of the returning fighters. 2D/3D, I just want Darkstalkers legacy to continue..
You wanna hear something funny? The last new original Darkstalkers came out in the 90s, things like Megaman X (last new game was 2004), Megaman Legends(last new game was 2000) and even Breath of Fire (last new game was 2002) have gotten new games past the 90s.
@@brandonwilliams6119 Before Killer Instinct Season 2, Iron Galaxy worked on Darkstalkers Resurrection. So Killer Instinct maybe the closet we'll get to a 3d DS????
I’m not sure if I missed it in the video but the Capcom Fighting Collection from a few years back has all the Darkstalkers arcade releases in both domestic and JP forms, along with some other fairly obscure Capcom fighters. It’s really good, with lots of bonus features and online play.
0:40 I mean, what did you expect? They always do this, then after a comical amount of time, then suddenly drop the best Megaman game since ever, and rinse and repeat.
I don't know if this is still true, but when Vampire Savior first came out, the only version of the game that was "complete" was the Saturn version. It was the only one with ALL THE CHARACTERS. I'm surprised that even in re-releases, we don't get all the characters in one game.
@The1SunshineFeeler That makes sense. I did skip the PS2 and Resurrections releases. That's why I wasn't confident in saying it was still true. Still, Capcom should just do a full on deluxe re-release where they have every character available, including Dee, and a playable adult and child Anita to give the hardcore fans a reason to buy the game AGAIN. Yeah, it's scummy, but I'd still buy it and so would most of us.
Not true. PS1 Darkstalkers 3 EX is technically the most complete but being on playstation the gtaphics and gameplay is a bit gimped. Its also censored. In the US at least
The greater issue is why capcom abandoned the hand drawn artstyle we all love. This is the reason Street Fighter 3 is still loved even today becuase it was pushing 2D to its limits with the animation quality.
It does hurt to see the series may not come back in anyone's lifetime (Though I'd adore a Cel-shaded Darkstalkers game that knows that its style has to be in 2D, but uses methods a la FighterZ to break models in ways that they can only look like they do with the specific angles), but I can at least feel glad I eventually did find and enjoy what the series offered in what time it had, and though my favorite character, Morrigan, is probably relegated to cameos and crossovers for all eternity (It hurts, but I'll take what I can get and rep Morrigan in any match regardless of the tiers), and we'll never truly see the story of the other Darkstalkers (I think it'd be interesting if they did follow up), I also know that this series will always be my go-to for a fun fighter out of all the Capcom stuff outside maybe the MvC stuff
Capcom can go beyond Arc. Marvel vs Capcom Infinite successfully captured the feel of CPS2 animation. Had it used a better art style people would peeped that more.
Amingo could fit as well but I’d even argue Sonson could as well, since one of her supers in MVC2 is turning into a big monster ape, and plus if we can have a cute Catwoman in Felicia then we can also have a cute Monkeygirl in Sonson, also Return to Monke🙊
True. Though that rumor has long been debunked. Ruby was made cause they just wanted an original cool lady protag route mvc2 and amingo... Iirc was just cause they wanted a weird body type on the roster. They do eerily fit DS but its coincidence
While talking bout characters that could be brought in from other franchises I thought maybe Wesker from Resi would fit with brainwashed Jill and/or Rebecca in tow (canonicity would hardly matter here), where he's gathering info on darkstalkers for their weaponisation prospects/testing his brainwashed puppets. Oh n I want a Dullahan 😂 either an original character that leans into them being fae, like an irish faerie knight full of the craic OR Celty from Durarara!!! 😅
I played Vampire Savior in arcades during my elementary days, so this game has a special place in my heart. Funny thing, even though the gameplay has no sounds, i can hear in my head the voicelines and sound effects. 😂
I love Darkstalkers but yea, I can understand the big conundrum with the series being made nowadays, wither it is the game not making enough revenue or the game potentially being too ambitious or expensive to make using 3D models. Sure, Guilty Gear Xrd didn't really have a big budget from what I heard and it still had updates and sequels but keep in mind that Xrd SIGN, the first Xrd game had a pretty small roster at the start because of the shift to 3D Models, and also the fact the Daisuke is REALLY dedicated to his heavy metal baby. Now personally, I don't think it is impossible. I would love to think that a new Darkstalkers can be possible but it can be a risk. Who knows, we can only know in the future.
"The biggest appeal of the series" My brain is almost certainly rotten, but for me it's Morrigan and Felicia. They just don't do characters like these anymore.
@@SmokeTheHorsehog I think you're reading my comments as of they were a bit more aggressive than I intended. Jack-o is good, but outside of japanese media, characters like these just don't get made. I was just trying to do yet another "they don't do them like this anymore" joke
DarkStalker Resurrection isn’t the last port of the series. Capcom released the Capcom Fighting collection in 2022 which has several DarkStalker games, Cyberbots, and for the first time outside of Warzard/Red Earth.
It's not that DS can't be done. Sure it won't work in the SF6 style, but it's perfectly doable in Arc Systems style. But aside of outsourcing/collab, that seems too troublesome because Capcom is not used to that style of graphics and animation... so the project would need investment just to qualify the staff in first place. And why bother doing so much for something like DS that is so weak that died already by 96-97? Also people talk about DS passionately on the internet, but the truth is that all DS retro rereleases didnt have great sales... and the game isnt very strong on fightcade either (not even comparing it to SF numbers but rather to the average numbers of other fgs like Marvel, KOF, etc). So that means: the game is right in front of the person (on the rom list), it's free, with perfect emulation and rollback netcode... but he will choose another game. That speaks a lot against DS to be honest. Lastly the problem of the franchise's post release content potential. DS is too old and died too early, it's from a time when average fg rosters were around 12-14. So what is even there to add? SF6's base roster was bashed for that size, and that's the entire DS franchise. Nowadays everything in the hardcore fg scene gets at least 2 years of dlc. And even some small or indie fgs have dlc. Actually there are very high chances that big companies only consider a fg franchise worthy if they have potential for dlc. It's not interesting to them to allow a standalone game that cant earn any extra money after release.
9:39 Fun fact: There are early concept art that had Lilith as an angel and was supposed to be related to Morrigan instead of a part of her. Makes more sense that some of her move names are light versions of Morrigan's. Darkness Illusion (Luminous Illusion), Shadow Blade (Shining Blade), Soul Fist (Soul Flash).
I gotta keep it real I've only known Darkstalkers from Morrigan, Lilith, and Felicia (Like half of the general gamers) but maybe I'll give it a try someday, it looks fun!
6:40 They used to know that sex sell and the reason why the females got pushed simple as that. Feminist that are mad and envious not the weeb that's willing to spend 200-500 dollars for a figure. 24:14 They already have 3-4 Characters done. There is Corrin and Bowser Jr clown kart. Buu's sweet beam proves that possible ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2SA1f7rgfDo.htmlsi=YWxzbPUkRj6-uDnF
SVC chaos is a game that i will never not love bc of how insanely sick demitri looked in that and hour much fun mega man zero and tessa were to play in that game
Have you ever heard of The Black Heart? It's essentially Darkstalkers, if you toned down the comedy and turned the horror and violence up to eleven. And that, too, has lore that's just as insane as Darkstalkers.
I feel like Capcom doesn't want to take away from Street Fighter with Darkstalkers.. another thing I thought that was crap, they wanted people to buy another collection as a measure to make a new Darkstalkers .
A few things 1. SVC Chaos wasn't the only crossover fighter Dimitri was in. He was also in Capcom Fighting Evolution, which isn't a crossover with another company but more of a crossover with different Capcom fighting games that ended up looking more like a commercial version of Mugen. He's got the Midnight Bliss in there too and they drew new Bliss sprites for the non Darkstalkers characters, which is the only new thing they drew for the game since it uses rehashed sprites from different older games. Well except for Ingrid, who has a new sprite since she was ported from the cancelled Capcom Fighting All-Stars, which was going to be in 3D. Speaking of which, Dimitri was apparently supposed to be in Capcom Fighting All-Stars until that got cancelled. 2. Yes Morrigan is now extremely powerful since she merged with Lilith but she is still not as powerful as she was when she was born because she's still missing the other half of her power that Belial took. 3. Marvel vs. Capcom isn't the only crossover game where Lilith made an appearance alongside Morrigan. She also made an appearance in her Level 3 hyper combo in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. 4. Jedah is considered to be an incubus. 5. Morrigan looked better in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom and Marvel vs. Capcom 3 than in MVCI. In fact I don't like how everyone looked in that game at all much like everyone else. They should have kept the comic book style look from MVC3. I don't know what they were going for with that but it made the game look cheap. Looked almost like a port of Marvel Contest of Champions. 6. A Werewolf in London? Ha! Good one Capcom. Thank God he wasn't from Paris. That's all I got for now. Not a bad video.
@@SONICMATRIX Thanks for this comment! I already knew about CFE, I just forgot about it lol But where is it stated that Morrigan doesn’t have all 3rds of her power? That was actually really confusing, because I saw conflicting things about it. And where is it stated that Jedah is an Incubus?
@@The1SunshineFeelerI can confirm, Morrigan is at full power since the 2nd part of her power has returned to her after Belial death. Jedah is stated as a demon, not an incubus. So technically succubi in Darkstalkers are not demons if Capcom has worked to separate the two races.
I think one of the biggest issues is Capcom trying to gauge interest by giving us re-releases of the same old game. The most recent one, "Darkstalkers Resurrection", wasn't even the best version, so of course, people weren't gonna buy it. As many people in the comments have already pointed out, Xrd has shown that the over-the-top, goofy animation can be implemented in 2.5D (especially with Faust). Capcom just doesn't wanna take that risk. They wanna play it safe with SF, DMC, and Resident Evil.
Darkstalkers series had a few rereleases as of a few years ago in two compilations. They don't think people want Darkstalkers enough. But if you seen the recent survey results, Darkstalkers was notable on there.
There's something else you and many other people are forgetting to say, Capcom comes from an age where they put tons of fighting games on the market that have been one of the reasons for the end of Capcom fighting games, they also made the same mistake during the 360 era, so starting with SFV they are sticking to only having 1 fighting game on the market, combining every other game that they can in the same universe :/
My headcanon for Morrigan being "part-mech" (that I JUST thought of now) is that she's secretly into Gundams and incorporates them into her fighting style. It's basically canon that she's a (fighting) gamer girl so her also being into gunpla isn't totally outta the question. Sexy girls need other hobbies too, ya know? Also I gotta disagree with the Megaman bit, there's still WAY more to explore, ESPECIALLY in this current technological climate, but Capcom just doesn't bother...and us fans are starving, brotha😭
I feel like the same criticism could be said with the Wario Land series. I feel like Wario Land as a whole a part of its identity is being a very expressive and cartoony 2D series that you couldn't do in 3D. A lot of people say that it's spiritual succor games Pizza Tower & Anton Blast that it could work. But like you said in this video is that most Tripple A companies can't do that because 3D has become the norm. Sure, there has been some exceptions & I would love to be proven wrong (like with the TTYD remake) but a 2.5D Wario Land game sounds like a really bad idea.
I play Fighting Games for the story, too. SNK defeated Capcom in that one category, only: Better Lore and Character Development. Darkstalkers and Samurai Spirits, back between 95 and 97, was the only two games that helped my depression, back then.
I DIDN'T KNOW JON TALBAIN WAS GONNA BE IN MVC3 GOD DAMN IT And I think the biggest obstacle for a new Darkstalkers game...is Skullgirls, it COMPLETELY took the niche of edgy and cartoony fighting game with monstrous characters, so much so that the best chance I can see for the Darkstalkers is actually combining both franchises, it would be a homerun to have them crossover
I agree that the animation is a key aspect of the aesthetics of the series, and that this can't be properly replicated in 3D. I've gotten flack for suggesting this previously, but the original animation of the sprites took direct influence from Hanna-Barbera cartoons and Tom and Jerry (confirmed as it was a direct quote from a developer). Because of this, I feel that hand drawn animation would be the best alternative. It would be difficult to nail down the EXACT style, but that would be a challenge no matter how you go about it. We have a good example of hand drawn 2D animation in a fighting game with Skullgirls. In theory this should be possible. If not with pixels, which is highly unlikely, hand drawn is the best alternative. That's all I'm saying.
OK so here my thought on the dark stalkers rejects in marvel vs, My thoughts were Ruby being a ghost pirate much like pirates of the Caribbean, amingo would be pod people, Ava sonson the daughter of a god. Would they be in dark stalkers I would assume that there was a goal for the 3 chasing something down with other dark stalkers. Especially with abyss being a major threat to earth I would imagine the marvel vs being sequels to dark stalkers since they keep up with lore.
Lately I've been seeing more and more fan art of characters from Darkstalkers and also Metal Slug, despite the fact that these are old games, and today these characters appear as collaborations/cameos in other games. It seems that now they are associated only with drawings (and cosplay), but not with games. I have no complaints about the drawings, I still like them, I just have the idea that people want new main games in these franchises.
My first encounter with this game was in an arcade in San Francisco in the early 2000's. I want to say it was 2004 or 5. My brother and I played it and thought it was pretty cool.
21:39 Even with Darkstalkers' dark themes, that didn't stop the franchise from getting two animated series. Sure they were kid-friendly as with the Mortal Kombat cartoons, but it's a shame Darkstalkers didn't last. At least Street Fighter had a fanbase, jumped to 3D (despite having 2D gameplay), and was one of the biggest money makers for Capcom other than Resident Evil and Mega Man. When it came to appealing to a wide demographic, Street Fighter had censored SNES ports that lacked blood, and they even crossed over with Darkstalkers and Cyberbots for a kid-friendly stacking puzzle game.
The over the top effects that Darkstalkers is known for can be done in 3D but the overhead would be ridiculous. It would require a lot of tech that would make it as much of a feast for the eyes in 3D as it is in 2D. And there's no way Capcom would shoulder that sort of burden for an IP that only has a cult following backing it. That being said though if they did do it, I think it would do very well because the effects would be insanely meme worthy and would spread like wildfire on social media. Whether they do it in 2D or 3D I think it would perform well. But only if they put legitimate heart and soul into it. Any lazy or halfhearted attempts isn't going to cut it.
I feel like given the horror renaissance we’ve been having lately and the amazing streak Capcoms been on lately I think it be the perfect time for a new dark stalkers
I have more than a few things I wanted to point out about your video, so this post ended up being incredibly long. Feel free to grab a snack. ⒈ 2:27 - The messed up thing about _Vampire Chronicle_ is that it isn't even a port of _Vampire Savior,_ per se. Like in _Ultra Street Fighter Ⅳ,_ you can choose which revision of the character you want… but the problem is its core engine still has the mechanics from the _Vampire Savior 2/Hunter 2,_ which is far inferior to _Savior's._ ⒉ 4:35 - Fun fact: _Darkstalkers_ is also the series that gave us EX moves, and the input that would later be used for Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu/Raging Demon. ⒊ 4:52 & 23:46 - _Darkstalkers'_ failure is more of the fault of _Hunter 2/Savior 2._ A pair of half-assed "sequels" that no one liked due to their mechanics changes, coming out mere months after the last true sequel that you made, and then not putting out any new content after that? Yeah, it's pretty easy to see why the series crashed and burned. I think it's saying something that _Vampire Savior_ is still getting played, while most people don't even know of _Hunter 2/Savior 2's_ existence. ⒋ 7:16 - This simply isn't true. It's just that most of those appearances haven't been in fighting games. Donovan has made a lone appearance in a crossover title (i.e. _Super Puzzle Fighter Ⅱ Turbo);_ Pyron in two (one being a fighter); Anakaris, two (both fighters); Lord Raptor, three (no fighters); Jedah, four (two fighters); and Demitri, _six_ (two fighters). Considering those fighters were _SVC: Chaos,_ _Capcom Fighting Jam/Evolution,_ and _Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite,_ and Anakaris was low-tier in _Marvel vs. Capcom 2,_ it's easy to see why people assume the males have been neglected. ⒌ 8:10 - Yeah, Morrigan and Lilith aren't sisters. Lilith was *intended* to be Morrigan's half-sister in development, but that's as far as it goes. Officially, she's a third of Morrigan's soul, and has no connection to Morrigan biologically. ⒍ 9:39 - According to the _Darkstalkers Graphic File_ released by Capcom themselves, Lilith *isn't* a succubus; she's officially not part of *any* race. I take this to mean that the form she took when Jedah created her was inspired by Morrigan because… well, ⅓ of her soul and all, but her body doesn't work the same way as a succubus' does. It's like humans and Kryptonians: both look the same, but their biology are vastly different. ⒎ 10:59 - Funnily enough, Felicia was initially meant to be the "sexy" character for the series. However, Morrigan's design hit so hard, that *she* became the "sexy" one, and Felicia was redesigned to be the "cute" one. That's not to say that she isn't sexy… but in terms of mannerisms? Yeah, definitely the "cute" one. I also disagree with your conclusion that _Darkstalkers_ couldn't be released today… but I do think that it works best in 2D. Between the multiple crossovers the characters have been in, and how over anime fighters are compared to back then, I could easily it growing in popularity if it's made well. People would pick up it solely because they've heard the series, and wants to see what makes it special; and others because, "Hey, isn't that the game where Morrigan and Felicia are from?" If _MELTY BLOOD: Type-Lumina_ and _Under Night In-Birth_ can gain a decent (albeit cult) following while still having 2D sprites, then surely _Darkstalkers_ can.
I'd love to see a new 2D sprite based Darkstalkers game. Especially if it was priced around $30-40 due to not requiring the resources to design new 3D models. I picked up the Capcom Fighting Collection primarily for the Darkstalkers entries. Hell, I still regularly throw in my copy of Night Warriors for Sega Saturn to play through it!
It’s interesting cuz I thought Dhalsim in SF6 was gonna look really weird/wrong, but I think Capcom really did a good job retaining all of his weirdness without it coming off as cheap or bad
@@Emiridian I think it’s because of Art Direction. Street Fighter characters do crazy stunts, but they’re designed to work in any art style. Dhalsim and Blanka are weird but they aren’t cartoony and going back to SF2, you can see they never were. Darkstalkers characters were always meant to be cartoony though, and that’s the difference.
If Capcom can ink a deal with Arc System Works, It just might happen. Let's dream and put it in the universe Edit. I typed this Comment before you said it 😆
Darkstalkers was one of my first PS1 games! I love this series, and given that the Horror genre is a lot more popular these days I think that they might be able to get away with a 2.5D game. I'd hate to see Udon having to do what Igarashi did and make a spiritual successor, but it would be a welcome addition. Capcom needs to bring this series out of retirement and give the PvP folks something new-ish to enjoy.
Wow Raptors story is sick! He somehow is even cooler... Didn't think it was possible. I like that he is both into punk metal and basketball. Most people have more than one interest but that is rarely represented in media.
My first job was in a theater. We had a Darkstalkers coin op in our lobby on the left side and an X-Men Children of the Atom on the right. Later this was replaced with Bloody Roar. So. I got stupid lucky and was able to play some truly unique and awesome fighters on arcade machines. These games were all dope. My favorite was Bloody Roar but Darkstalkers was very fun. I agree with your assessment in most respects. I think Capcom should work shop and Anime of the series like the Castlevania anime on Netflix. The lore is pretty crazy so there is a good bit of things they can do with it. Then if the show takes off people will know what to expect from a new game and a 2D version could work. The Arc works 2.5D idea would be amazing and the coolest way to see this (or Bloody Roar) come back but the idea of making a show first to build the fan base and familiarize people with the tone would help make sure your return in investment would be there. That said I think you could heighten the crazy action and silliness a bit but just take out some of the more ridiculous moves like Victor's butt grab and Dimitri's Midnight Bliss move.
That should be the plot for the new game! Some ice powered villain takes over Makai by freezing everything and all of the demons invade Earth so the Darkstalkers band together to defeat him/her and send them all back so they can continue to live peacefully here.
I think ArcSys could do a great job developing a new Darkstalkers game. When I first saw Guilty Gear Xrd gameplay, I had no idea that the characters were 3D models. Also, Blazblue still looks great with its 2D HD sprites! If they can create and animate a character like Arakune in Blazblue, Lord Raptor or Jedah would be a piece of cake!
3d animation has evolved a lot in recent years. I actually think Arc System Works could capture the feel of Darkstakers in 3d pretty well. I think it comes down to whether or not Capcom would be willing to hire a competitor to make a game or if their they're capable of replicating the animation style of GG Xrd/Strive, Granblue or films like Spiderverse or Puss in Boots 2.
If DS would actually come back i would hope Capcom does what it did with SF connecting to Final Fight, Rival Schools and even Strider. Having the DS universe be apart of the Red Earth and the Ghost n Goblins series would be cool and also can also introduce those characters into the games. (Arthur and Leo would be great additions) plus Ruby Heart, Sonson ans Amingo should join just to take them out of IP poverty.
@@The1SunshineFeeler it could if they wanted maybe have DS be like thousands of years before. Like Strider is with SF. Just spit balling but I could see to that affect
In away they sorta already connected the universe, there’s a character in Street Fighter 6’s World Tour named Ruby who bears almost an identical appearance to Ruby Heart, the game’s director has stated that she is not Ruby Heart but a different character that fans have theorizes that she is a descendant of Ruby Heart.
I actually got into the series recently bc Resurrection is 1.49 on the 360 store since it's gonna be discontinued on July 29th along with everything not backwards compatible
I enjoyed the video! I learned some facts about the characters that I did not know. Capcom really should make a new entry in the series. But it has to be 2D with sprite animation Using all resources available, they could make a stunning modern version of the game. I wish they used sprites in Street Fighter 6.
Just watching games like MvC3 you can notice that Morrigan lacks many of the details she had in Darkstalkers. But I think that if Capcom hires ASW, they could do an excellent job with all the experience they have with Guilty and other anime-style fighting games so they could make it 3D or 2D. Also ASW's reputation would be useful because it is a company that is dedicated to this type of games that are not so popular now, and even so it seems that they have done well in sales, I think it would be a gain for both companies, since Darkstalkers is a saga that is a little better known than other games they make.
I think the problem with sexualization is that people uses the term wrongly. Characters designed to be sexy are not sexualized. Morrigan, being a succubus has to be sexy, so her sexyness is not sexualization. Bayonetta, another clear case of sexyness not being sexualization in any way. If it has a function story and lore wise, goes with the characters personality, it cannot be called that.
@@SandorThePuppy It is sexualization, but that’s not a bad thing. If it didn’t have a function story and lore wise, it would be objectification. If sexuality is a major part of the character, they’re a sexualized character, but that’s fine, as long as they have an actual character like Morrigan and Bayonetta. But if the character is literally nothing but sexuality and doesn’t have a personality or function outside of that as a character, they’re objectified. Sexualized isn’t a bad thing, and for most “sexualized” characters, that’s just one of many adjectives to describe them.
@@The1SunshineFeeler I think we're on the same page but disagree on the semantics, I think sexualization has a negative tone, to use when things are clearly just sexualized for no reason. An MI6 spec-ops agent on a high cut swimming suit... sexualization. A wrestler slapping her butt before a combo? Flamboyance. The way I interpret the term, all sexualization is objectification because it turns the character into a token neglecting any other aspect.
I have nearly every "DarkStalkers" game (mostly imports) except for DS3 on PS1. I hated how it was edited. Whats worse, there's a code for the Japanese Dreamcast Game that looks like a English translation, but it actually turns it into the PS1 Ver. it DOES translate the game but all the edited stuff activates with the code. White blood, less violent animations. The game has had a few cool releases that stayed in Japan. It's pretty upsetting if you're a fan. Vampire DarkStalkers Collection for PS2 is awesome and feels exactly like the Street Fighter Alpha Anthology we did get in the US
Well done with the video, love it! 5:23 I agree, Rpg and the rest of the games for storyline, kudos for those who do tournament but that's not going to be my "cup of tea" 😉
I honestly don't think the sexualized character designs of the characters would hold back a new darkstalkers [as unlikely as a new entry as that already is]. There has always been a element of sensuality mixed with horror even going back to classic black and white films. If the main concern against this is the worry that some one on X [formerly Twitter] is gonna be offended over this, then I think its safe to say thats not really worth worrying about since all the online backlash towards Hogwarts Legacy ultimately didn't amount to anything as the attempt to "boycott" it was rather laughable. "Twitter Is Not Real Life". This whole irrational fear of being "cancelled" because something is too violent or too sexy now is kind of overblown. In 2017 or 2018, you could get away with trying to cancel something because the fear of online backlash was so great. Nowadays? People just don't care nor do people have the energy for that kind of stuff. Ofcourse, I am comparing a niche series like Darkstalkers to something that has much more mass appeal in the Wizarding World/Harry Potter verse so thats already a bad comparison from me xD However, I think Darkstalkers should probably go for an M Rating because I don't think it would work as a rated T game because I don't think there's anyway you can play it safe if you're gonna try something risky as Darkstalkers anyway. Besides, there is no way you can get away with stuff like Jedah mutilating himself with a T rating without it looking lame and like shit. As far as difficulty animating 2d style stuff in 3D, I think thats a moot point as games like Arc System works games and even stuff like KOF XV can attest to. Maximillian I think also should not be considered the end all, be all voice when it comes to fighting games. He mostly talks from the perspective of someone who only plays Capcom fighters even though he is also a Killer Instinct stan
I wanted to make a comment on the female characters. I think while they could expand on some of the female characters. I think they did a good job overall designing them and writing them. I think Morrigan and Lilith are great examples of sexy done right. You also get some very unique takes with characters like Hisen-Ko and Felicia. They were very creative. I do feel Felicia is a little borderline but I can't help with kind she is.
The treatment that Marvel vs capcom is receiving as a collection today it's the same that Darkstalkers received last year with capcom fighting collection where it was more darkstalkers than anything. Also, Lord Raptor is heavily inspired on Eddie from Iron Maiden
The gameplay with air combos absolutely did not kill the series. Capcom is their own worst enemies with ips that aren’t their main ones and have mishandled it. If anything it’s gameplay is what keeps it alive in fgc because they’re still weekly fightcade tourneys and a lot of tech conversation in the vampire savior discord.
@@p00pdragon I never said the gameplay itself was what killed the series, obviously Marvel and GG took off because of those things, I was just saying how if you look at reviews for the games from the time, people didn’t yet see what made it so unique.
I think the reason it didn't take off as it got overshadow by other 2D fighters and people know the characters because of crossovers than the game itself. I know of these characters because I played the versus games when I was younger. I didn't know about Darkstalkers until high school. I just now got into Darkstalkers because of the Capcom Fighting Collection. It's tough to admit but Darkstalkers doesn't have the pull like a KOF does. It is too niche and the series is far too known for just having attractive female characters that are cosplay a bunch. They are cool female characters but we gotta keep it a buck here. I'm shocked you are getting heat for this video but feel the only way to bring Darkstalker back is to do a proper 2D sequel as I can agree that bring this to 2.5D will not only be challenging but not look as good. Great video and keep up the good work. Edit: Grammar
I love the fact that there is a Darkstalkers cartoon debut series then a full on anime second series, I just like the cartoon version better cause I think the character development is more fleshed out.
I never learned about this game. I gotta say I freaking LOVE the art style. The unique 2D sprites, The movement, move sets, art design overall is utterly Fascinating and I WISH we could start to see more games like it. Where instead of just getting another modern 3D style fighting game, I hope we see other games at least using the same 2D art style as this game does. These kind of visuals and characters hold up so well in my opinion. The design is almost timeless in some ways. I just cannot stand the 3D approach that's mixed in with some dumb doofus looking art style. Like a Frankenstein hybrid between Pixar art style and giant idiot looking art styles and character designs.. I just hope stuff like this makes a big comeback one day..