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@billyponsonby
@billyponsonby 22 дня назад
I’m beginning to think that professional diving is a dangerous business.
@deletdis6173
@deletdis6173 22 дня назад
You and me both 😨
@233kosta
@233kosta 22 дня назад
It seems a bit like riding a motorbike on a 0.5m wide I-beam 500m up in the air at 100m/s between two cliffs. Technically doable, but you have to be 1000% switched on from the first stage of planning right up until you're safely at the other end. Or, y'know... you die. If you're cave diving, add to this night time with only your headlight to light the way, random bends in said I-beam, and the cliffs are far enough apart that you're at the very edge of your fuel capacity. If you're rescue cave diving, add rain, narrow the beam to 0.2m... Yeh, not exactly the safest of jobs.
@Transberrylemonaid
@Transberrylemonaid 21 день назад
What gives you that idea? 🫣/sarcasm
@scoreboardntlie
@scoreboardntlie 21 день назад
Who wouod have thought having to rely on fairly old tech to be in an atmosphere that you shouldn't be in would be dangerous....
@begbieyabass
@begbieyabass 21 день назад
That's why we get big Bucks for it..and chick's love a good diver. 😂
@trickedouttech321
@trickedouttech321 22 дня назад
That fan is the smell he had earlier, a fan normally gets an electrical smell before it fails. What they did wrong, They did not abort the mission the second they smelled an electrical problem
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 21 день назад
Critical fans should be replaced on a schedule.
@GrandDukeMushroom
@GrandDukeMushroom 20 дней назад
@@naughtiusmaximus830 no, new parts fail more often than working parts could add an hour limit workload
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 20 дней назад
@@GrandDukeMushroom A burn in would be ideal.
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 20 дней назад
Redundancy probably better. Fans are pretty compact these days. I deal with burnt out power supplies from when the fan fails if you want my “take”.
@happychappy492
@happychappy492 20 дней назад
what is needed is back up fans
@posmoo9790
@posmoo9790 21 день назад
I'm not going on a sub that's covered in hooks, and cables, and loops of steel like a damn giant piece of velcro to wreck site.
@EzraCannon-xp9is
@EzraCannon-xp9is 21 день назад
They should have just called it "The Snag O' Matic"
@SharronNeedles
@SharronNeedles 21 день назад
I’m not going on a sub.
@Paxmax
@Paxmax 20 дней назад
Multifunctionality comes at a cost in development and dare I say at a price in use.
@zviper
@zviper 8 дней назад
i'd sooner go in a carbon tube with my dollar store Gc controller lol
@kungfreddie
@kungfreddie 8 дней назад
​@@Paxmaxsure but making these hooks removable would b a minimal thing. Since they are just fixed and not robotic. It's kinda stupid to have hooks that you are not going to use in that dive and also can't see.
@steveo7006
@steveo7006 22 дня назад
In my diving days we called that style of clip a "suicide hook".
@Mo_Taser
@Mo_Taser 22 дня назад
I'm a commercial diver who's been following you for a couple of years. I don't often say anything but I appreciate what you do and I always give your videos a like. In particular, if you don't know certain details like in this video, you say so. That's honesty and I appreciate that. Your admissions that you don't know every detail inspires trust, not mistrust. Keep up the great work.👍 The thorough dissection you've done of the events in this tragedy is top-shelf. Your channel is a useful learning resource for anyone working underwater at + 1 atmospheric pressure. There are things to be learned on your channel, even by an old veteran like myself.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
Thanks mate. It's really encouraging to hear from a professional. I'm having to learn about humility and it's great to see that it's recognised.
@HEDGE1011
@HEDGE1011 19 дней назад
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your comment. I’m not a diver, but a professional pilot. I’ve flown a lot and instructed a lot and have always tried to be humble and realize someone else may know something I don’t. It is a sign of strength, not weakness, to say “I don’t know” rather than to build a decision on false information or misunderstandings. Much respect and thanks again.
@Mo_Taser
@Mo_Taser 19 дней назад
@@HEDGE1011 ​ Thank you so much. I subscribe to a couple of ATC/pilot channels. I find pilot/ATC interactions interesting - sometimes tragic, sometimes funny, and sometimes just downright interesting. In spite of the fact that I'm a nervous flyer and I get scared when I stand on a chair to change a lightbulb, I think there are definite similarities between our two professions. Have a plan. One needs the temperament. You need to be level-headed, and not prone to panic. When all hell is breaking loose you need to keep your wits about you. That has saved my life. Keep your equipment in good working order. Not having your equipment in good working order is your fault. Being injured or killed due to poor equipment is avoidable. Drugs and alcohol can kill you, and probably in your case, others too. I think we probably share all of those traits and more. Thanks again. 👍
@Bertrand146
@Bertrand146 16 дней назад
@@waterlinestories Great video ! Well done. Just for the info, those tanks are usually 12 or 15 liter tanks filled at 200 bars or up to 300 bars (depending on metal - aluminium vs steel). From a french prof. diver, always a real pleasure to watch your videos.
@travisemilson958
@travisemilson958 12 дней назад
awesome of you as a professional saying that more people like you are needed in this world
@feloniouscraphammer
@feloniouscraphammer 21 день назад
In 1985, I declined a very generous offer of employment as an underwater pipe welder. I talked to several people that told me horror stories from their time in that field. The pay, although quite substantial, was not enough for me. I nearly died several times during large land based pipe jobs. I later decided to join the U.S. Navy. I think I made the right decision. RIP to all those lost.
@EzraCannon-xp9is
@EzraCannon-xp9is 21 день назад
indeed you did!
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 20 дней назад
Holy crap. My uncle very nearly got me started in this industry, and never once warned me. Was he just trying to get a replacement!? Jesus I love the ocean and I find diving so interesting, but I'm honestly glad I stayed away from it. I don't trust myself to not panic, even though I've been through some high pressure emergency situations and done well... being underwater changed all of that. 0 control over your fate.
@koneeche
@koneeche 16 дней назад
I met an underwater pipe welder that had been in the gig for 40 years. They had to make new plaques for him every 5 years of service because nobody had ever survived that long. He always told me that safety was the absolute priority in these dire conditions.
@kungfreddie
@kungfreddie 8 дней назад
​@koneeche yes its dangerous.. buts saying noone survives 5 yrs is ridiculous...
@kungfreddie
@kungfreddie 8 дней назад
The International Maritime Contractors Association states that 1 out of 20 offshore divers is killed on the job over a 10-year span. So bad.. but not no one makes it 5 yrs.. Also... only 10% of the deaths are from drowning. I guess the other risks are electrocution.. diving sickness.. things like that.
@j3tts0n65
@j3tts0n65 22 дня назад
Trapped in a cage of metal slowly suffocating must be so demoralizing knowing you can’t really do anything about it other than wait and try and stay conscious while rescuers struggle to reach you in the depths
@sarasmr4278
@sarasmr4278 22 дня назад
You know what I've already had two panic attacks today, maybe I'll skip this one
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
@sarasmr4278 3's a charm
@whatevernamegoeshere3644
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 22 дня назад
@@sarasmr4278 Yeeaaah back when I had anxiety problems I could not watch anything like this. Just honestly skip it, even if it sounds interesting. Keep it together and I hope it gets better mate.
@theoneway22
@theoneway22 22 дня назад
Well they could've just figured out how to use the tried and true "Byford Dolphin" method.
@sarasmr4278
@sarasmr4278 22 дня назад
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 much appreciated 💜 I had a recent scare -- turned out fine, but things are all stirred up. I had a panic attack on the climbing wall for the first time today and I sat there in my harness and did my breathing and told myself I was absolutely fine and then I finished the bloody climb so now I am officially a badass thank you very much. ;)
@MeduseldRabbit
@MeduseldRabbit 21 день назад
Never skip repairs, always have a backup system/plan. And if a more experienced crew member says grab a jacket/food/whatever, DO IT! So many of these incidents could be avoided, or not as severe, if people took logical precautions.
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 20 дней назад
Seems like for something like CO2 scrubbers, they should at least have one that's hand cranked considering that mechanical and electrical systems aren't that reliable.
@mactep1
@mactep1 19 дней назад
@@ryelor123 Any system is unreliable if you actively choose not to address faults.
@ct1762
@ct1762 7 дней назад
@@mactep1 yep. take an engine for example. it can have all the high tech sensors to control detonation, air/fuel, temperature warning etc, but if the owner doesnt check them periodically to make sure they work, thats on them!
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 4 дня назад
@@ct1762 some of these cases are closer to "and if the owner doesn't put gasoline in the tank then the engine will stop working"
@ct1762
@ct1762 3 дня назад
@@darkracer1252 haha i wouldn't be surprised. in fact as a mechanic, ive seen it!
@OMG_No_Way
@OMG_No_Way 22 дня назад
How come every single underwater rescue is plagued with crap not working on the rescue equipment.
@X737_
@X737_ 22 дня назад
Because it’s never used in anger until it is
@ziggyblue782
@ziggyblue782 21 день назад
Lack of maintenance and professionalism.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 21 день назад
Because sea farers secretly identify as fish and believe they don't need it!
@michaelreid2329
@michaelreid2329 21 день назад
Goes to show you how likely a Space rescue will be successful!
@tbas8741
@tbas8741 21 день назад
@@michaelreid2329 Space Travel is much easier than Deep Sea Travel. Hardest part is getting the rocket to space at 28,000 MPH+
@anaxis
@anaxis 21 день назад
Albert Stover is a paternal relative who died shortly before I was born, and until recently I had no idea what happened. It's especially eerie because I've always had a deathly fear of suffocation and deep water for as long as I can remember, even as a small child; yet was also obsessed with Caribbean shipwrecks. But I grew up in the Midwest pretty far away from oceans & shipwrecks, so.... 🤷‍♂️
@bearb1asting
@bearb1asting 20 дней назад
That's wild.
@carolcamp4828
@carolcamp4828 3 дня назад
You were probably him. U could do a hypnotic regression & find out. We live many lives.
@anaxis
@anaxis 2 дня назад
@@carolcamp4828 It's certainly given me a lot to think about, since I never really considered that reincarnation might happen along familial lines; I've always figured it was either random or karma-based. It would make more sense, to me at least.
@ryanau5824
@ryanau5824 21 день назад
There is a reason why safety protocols exist. They are for your safety. If you disregard them you effectively sign away your life in the event of an accident. Good job 👏
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 13 дней назад
That's the problem. They didn't have any safety protocols. No need for a full inspection prior to launch. No need to repair faulty to life support systems before launch. No need to wear diving suits when riding down in the dive compartment. They simply didn't care in the first place. Now the recent Titan sub implosion, that was pure negligence. Which, in my opinion, is even worse than ignorance.
@GuitarRyder11
@GuitarRyder11 2 дня назад
@@dhawthorne1634 Same result... a few Darwin Awards, and at least they only topped themselves, not innocents.
@Mahkwa
@Mahkwa 20 дней назад
It amazes me just how many people disregard procedures for safety - especially when the procedure is meant to save lives.
@nodidog
@nodidog 20 дней назад
Agreed! Knowing one scrubber was faulty, declaring it out loud, and then continuing anyway... It's amazing how quickly people can normalise a hostile environment, and let basic safety standards slip.
@charlesfinas3826
@charlesfinas3826 22 дня назад
The thumbnail look like the air filter Contraption that Appollo 13 crew has to make
@MADmosche
@MADmosche 22 дня назад
That’s because it is.
@cbhlde
@cbhlde 22 дня назад
Well spotted! :)
@henzoko5946
@henzoko5946 22 дня назад
The event occurred in 1973 and im guessing no pictures of the exact thing
@robertszempruch6540
@robertszempruch6540 22 дня назад
Came here to say that. That's exactly what that is
@skeetrix5577
@skeetrix5577 21 день назад
but how do you fit a round peg into a square hole again? some duct tape and the cover of the flight manual, right?
@zoozoc1
@zoozoc1 22 дня назад
I don't think the scrubber killed them. Seems like time is what killed them. They had no plan or way to survive for being at that depth for that amount of time. Also it was never clear why the men were in the diving compartment in the first place. Was there any purpose for them going down along with the 2 pilots?
@sujimayne
@sujimayne 21 день назад
The problem is the sheer incompetence of the Coast Guard. If you look into the incident more, it is just obvious that they didn't even need to go there, they were useless and repeatedly failed to get to the submersible because of their lack of organization.
@SharronNeedles
@SharronNeedles 21 день назад
Funsies
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 10 дней назад
That's essentially saying the same thing. Scrubbers don't have infinite capacity. There's only so much CO2 they can absorb. And the scrubbing ability slows with time as the active material is used up. So saying it was the scrubber or saying it was the time, is really the same thing, although saying it is the scrubber makes it sound like it was a catastrophic failure, rather than the inevitable one.
@abvmoose87
@abvmoose87 10 дней назад
@@sujimaynebut didnt the crew also fail to report to the coastguard about the one failing fan making them think tvey had more time than they actually did?
@darkwater72
@darkwater72 20 часов назад
The other guys were in a separate compartment because they were the ones going outside. They never expected to spend the entire time inside the vehicle. The other compartment was where the electronics and control equipment was.
@wolfwright7658
@wolfwright7658 21 день назад
I have watched every video of yours, and for some reason, this one felt hard to watch. From the 'eh' of overlooking the broken scrubber, to the 'suicide hook', to the many failed rescue attempts. Just heartbreaking for the two gents in the dive compartment.
@TungstenCarbideProjectile
@TungstenCarbideProjectile 22 дня назад
Two guys in the dive compartment should have done the lockout dive when they had the chance. Never pass up any chance to get out in these situations. People have a tendency to down play how bad situations are, we need to learn from these mistakes. If you are ever in a life or death situation you must recognize your few options to make it out as they arise
@jnmrn4069
@jnmrn4069 22 дня назад
It sounds like they were suffering from hypothermia, so their ability to free the Sealink from the cable would have been very difficult, especially wearing just shorts and t shirts. The partial pressure of the oxygen at 1.62 might have killed them anyway. If you are thinking of ascending to the surface, that would be out of the question. From 100 meters they would have to do a decompression ascent like the navy divers. That would be impossible without the proper diving equipment.
@boathousejoed1126
@boathousejoed1126 21 день назад
I'm confused,we're there wetsuits to perform a lockout dive? R.I.P. but they didn't show respect for task and the pilots advice to dress properly.It just seems strange to be so nonchalant. How much did this rescue cost?
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 21 день назад
Totally agree. Been in some crazy situations and had to act quick, I remember questioning myself for a minute and saying fuck it and did something I didn't think was going to work. If I didn't make the move I did then there's a good chance I wouldn't still be existing.
@Nilboggen
@Nilboggen 21 день назад
@@boathousejoed1126 Yeah as a recreational diver myself, it seems crazy that it spiraled out of control so fast at 300' depth. I would have thought there would be a technical diver or two on the support vessel who could dive down 300' and feet and untangle them with a Trimix setup. They could have been down there in like 10 minutes. Sure it would probably be many hours of deco stops depending on how long they took to untangle it and require quite a few tanks of Trimix. But with the cost of that underwater vessel you would think you would have some sort of rescue plan in place in case something went wrong.
@Pellagrah
@Pellagrah 21 день назад
I don't think they even realized they were in a life-or-death situation until it was too late to perform the lockout dive. In hindsight, they obviously should have attempted it despite the risk. They made the fatal assumption that help would arrive long before they depleted their oxygen supply, making it seem like a lockout dive was an unnecessary risk that could potentially make their situation even worse.
@b.w.22
@b.w.22 21 день назад
First impression: You’d think that a standard bit of “emergency equipment” would be some sort of simple bellows that could be fitted to the “fan” end of the scrubber and physically operated by the crew in the event of a fan failure or even a power failure. Edit: Second impression: Why aren’t there divers on the support ship? That’s so insane to me.
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 13 дней назад
Keep in mind, this is the early 1970's. We were still using diving bells and pressure suits with air lines and brass helmets. We'd only known how to safely surface from a deep dive for about 50 years and only found out how to treat decompression sickness about a decade prior. The equipment needed to perform deep dives from a surface ship was prohibitively expensive for research vessels and the air supply they had access to, to pump down there would have been toxic at those depths. That's why they had to call in military divers for the rescue attempt. The USCG and USN have a comparatively limitless budget and all of the best equipment of the time already on hand. Ideally, they would have forced anyone in the dive compartment to be ready to leave the compartment in case they needed to address some external issue on the sub, rather than letting them dive in shorts and a t-shirt. "Better to have it and not need it", type of scenario. Unfortunately, they fell on the "need it and not have it" side of that saying. On your first point, a hand cranked fan with gear reduction MIGHT have worked, but the work you'd put in to pumping bellows would increase your CO2 output more than the benefit you'd gain from increased flow through the absorption medium. It would have been more prudent to repair the redundant systems prior to launch and add a resistive heating element on the intake that would have kicked on if the temperature fell near to the minimum effective temperature.
@b.w.22
@b.w.22 12 дней назад
@@dhawthorne1634 - Well said! Thank you for such a thorough and thoughtful response. I agree with your “have it and not need it” SOP being the actual way this emergency could have been averted; having divers in the aft compartment who were ready and able to exit the vehicle to free it from the entanglement is the way. Coming from an aerospace background, I sometimes lose sight of the fact that deep-sea diving is such a recent development and a discipline whose techniques and technologies were driven by government agencies in the same was that space activity was. In so many ways, the deep ocean is a more challenging environment than space. Anyway, thanks again for your insight.
@ViroMad
@ViroMad 12 дней назад
Why not have backup oxygen candles? They were invented in 1945 so they should be good during this time period. Sure they burn super hot... but when freezing with little O2 you might like the temperature increase.
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 12 дней назад
@@ViroMad My guess is because of either cost, stowage or toxicity. They are still rather expensive today. My guess would be a military-only thing back then. They are rather bulky and require a dedicated burn chamber; which a small, deep-dive research vessel couldn't afford the space for. They are meant to be used in larger subs with lower internal pressure and a higher volume of air; which would run you into the same issue of oxygen toxicity as using the inappropriate diving gas that they had on board.
@ct1762
@ct1762 7 дней назад
@@dhawthorne1634 well said. hand cranking also increases calorie and h20 needs. the increased body temp would be a plus, but erased by the need for more h20 in short supply (ironically...being trapped in it)
@mnightfamalam1510
@mnightfamalam1510 21 день назад
Good lord, I don't think I've seen a case covered on this channel that saw so many unforeseen complications
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 21 день назад
Nope, it was one thing after next.
@darkwater72
@darkwater72 21 день назад
It's click-bait-ish to say "this CO2 scrubber killed these men". The scrubber worked exactly ss designed. The CO2 absorber material worked exactly as expected. The air temp dropped more than predicted, faster than predicted, and nobody thought of a way to warm the CO2 absorbent THAT'S what killed everyone.
@Blue4Skies1
@Blue4Skies1 16 дней назад
I see what you're saying, but the CO2 scrubber was faultily designed... or else the temp wouldn't have led it to stop scrubbing CO2. Also the fan stopping didn't help either.
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 16 дней назад
It's faulty because the scrubber doesn't have a heater in it.
@darkwater72
@darkwater72 16 дней назад
@@youtubehandlesux The lack of some sort of pre-heater not the same as "faulty". It's an unfortunate design choice with terrible consequences, but that's not the same as "broken." They just never thought of the chamber might get that cold.
@bf-696
@bf-696 9 дней назад
So an unheated CO2 scrubber killed them? How is that any different than "This CO2 scrubber killed half the crew", Karen?
@Evergreen64
@Evergreen64 21 день назад
I recognized that square scrubber. That was from Apollo 13. It was the jury rigged way they fit the LEM scrubber filters to the command modules round filter compartment.
@nickyevans83
@nickyevans83 22 дня назад
Slight issue with your thumbnail its the scrubber from Apollo 13 it did the exact opposite from what you say it saved the entire crew and enabled their return to earth safely it's one of the greatest emergency engineering improviseings in history
@shankthebat8654
@shankthebat8654 19 дней назад
Seconded, this really needs to be fixed.
@elbuggo
@elbuggo 3 дня назад
You too believe in that Hollywood thriller movie. As I recall it, they almost froze to death too. This while the space ship was exposed to direct sunlight all the time. How could it get so cold then really? Air condition was what they really needed. All kinds of nonsense in that Hollywood action thriller movie Apollo 13.
@TheOtherSteel
@TheOtherSteel 20 дней назад
This shows the difficulty of conducting rescue operations at only 100m depth. My mind flashes to a certain tourist DSV operating near the Titanic, at about 3,500m. If it had gotten stuck on the seafloor with all alive, imagine how much longer it would take to mount a rescue. I don't think the DSV's reserve oxygen would have lasted long enough. -- Deep sea construction divers have suits they can put on to preserve body warmth for as long as possible. This vessel appeared to have nothing of the sort. I'm thinking they would have found them useful.
@seadog686
@seadog686 4 дня назад
Those suits are $1.9 K alone; then there's the boots, gloves, hoses and water heater/pumps (on the surface support vessel) to consider. They probably didn't plan for that like a lot of things they obviously didn't plan for.
@jaydawg2357
@jaydawg2357 22 дня назад
Why does it always seem that "Should be a Simple Procedure" never ends up being a Simple Procedure.
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma 22 дня назад
Because of something that's best described as safety creep. The more often you do procedures, the less dangerous those procedures seem to become and therefore many people get casual with safety procedures. This trip to retrieve that fish trap should have been a breeze and it was, until the unforeseeable happened. And even then it should have been survivable, if not for the very casual disregard of procedures and safety measures, especially by the two men in the diving compartment. Had they been properly dressed and prepared to make an emergency dive if necessary, all of them would probably have survived.
@nrdesign1991
@nrdesign1991 21 день назад
That exact phrase, figuratively, hit me at work today. Changing encoder backup batteries in a Fanuc robot arm. Should take 5 minutes in theory; remove 7 easily accessible screws, pop off a cover, extract 2 battery packs, unplug, plug and slide in 2 new packs, attach cover. In practice, the cover was so stuck on to the robot that we couldnt work it loose. More than 30 minutes later with 2 people, numerous tools and a bit of violence we gave up as not to damage the robot or the cover.
@bradsanders407
@bradsanders407 21 день назад
Idiots. That's why. Either in the creation, maintaining or operating or all.
@justinrobinson9583
@justinrobinson9583 21 день назад
Complacency.
@jamesm5787
@jamesm5787 20 дней назад
Why were the divers even there, when no dive was planned?
@kurtflint64
@kurtflint64 22 дня назад
The scrubber in the thumbnail saved the entire crew. In space. Just googling oxygen scrubber and using the top return isn't so good for credibility.
@cbhlde
@cbhlde 22 дня назад
Well spotted! :)
@Will-dn9dq
@Will-dn9dq 22 дня назад
Looks like the one in Apollo 13 made from.scrap in space 😂 noticed myself from 1st glance 😂😂
@thedemolitionmuniciple
@thedemolitionmuniciple 22 дня назад
I don't need other people to decide stuff for me all the time, but should I stop watching this guy? I see comments pointing out issues on all his videos, some of the minor, some of them not, and worry that I dismiss them too quickly being stuck in a sunk cost fallacy. I have probably seen every video this guy has put out, and do not want to walk away with an incorrect assessment of any situation, much less one that has cost lives.
@MadJustin7
@MadJustin7 22 дня назад
You find a picture of a submersible CO2 scrubber then. One that you can freely use in a for profit video. It's not exactly a stock photo you can go and buy the rights to. It's good enough and at least it's a real photo and not some AI creation.
@MOcamping1212
@MOcamping1212 22 дня назад
​@@thedemolitionmunicipleim starting to wonder myself.
@davidwright5719
@davidwright5719 21 день назад
What was the point of the people going down in the dive compartment? They can’t see much and they weren’t planning to dive (indeed they declined to dive even when it could have saved their lives).
@76biggdogg
@76biggdogg 21 день назад
And all for a basket full of fish that meant absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
@lukienman
@lukienman 20 дней назад
A man showing off to his son.
@jfh667
@jfh667 21 день назад
The CO2 scrubber : But ... ive worked for days in freezing temperatures !!!!!
@RC-nq7mg
@RC-nq7mg 22 дня назад
Just wondering why the thumbnail is the lithium hydroxide canister from Apollo 13?
@Khanstant
@Khanstant 22 дня назад
Trick to get clever people to comment on the video.
@Average_Ohio_Citizen_
@Average_Ohio_Citizen_ 22 дня назад
​@@KhanstantYou win the RU-vid comment section today 😂😊
@MADmosche
@MADmosche 22 дня назад
Plus the photos of Titanic
@jerahmysmith4459
@jerahmysmith4459 22 дня назад
All of his thumbnails aren't relevant to his videos. Look through them
@martindk4417
@martindk4417 22 дня назад
I ask myself same question 🤣
@briantremblay9157
@briantremblay9157 22 дня назад
This is my New Favorite Channel, I have seen every video now, I wish I did binge watch cause now, I have to wait for new ones...
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
🤣 I'll do my best to not let you wait too long.
@briantremblay9157
@briantremblay9157 22 дня назад
@@waterlinestories The way you tell their stories, sometimes I feel claustrophobic, the cave diving stories truly give this affect!! Any loss of life is sad.
@TimothySpadano
@TimothySpadano 21 день назад
What is up with all these negative comments on a well done video? Jeez people, get a life.
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick 21 день назад
most times with episodes you do on folks stuck under water, i'm more upset at the mistakes that were made than scared or something. this event, every time the Tringa had to reposition or another setback added another hour, it just terrified me. i'm glad two of them were able to make it. many thanks as always.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 21 день назад
I think sometimes stuff goes wrong in a series in a single event, is fate saying "not today" and we should give whatever were trying to do a go another time.
@alexturnbackthearmy1907
@alexturnbackthearmy1907 18 дней назад
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Or (which is more likely) there were dozens of mistakes made over the years and never fixed. On all sides.
@joneyre4931
@joneyre4931 22 дня назад
Nice picture of the Titanic's bow matey
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
🤭
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 22 дня назад
Unsubscribed
@FreeFinca
@FreeFinca 22 дня назад
​@@artsmith103 🤣
@momchilandonov
@momchilandonov 8 дней назад
A smell of burning while underwater and with a faulty fan speaks of immediate danger! They should have mentioned the smell of burning, so the rescue team react with priority!
@SovietMOB
@SovietMOB 21 день назад
I see Waterline Stories has a new upload and I immediately grab a sweet tea and a hot meal for my own personal enjoyment for the day!! Best YT channel ever !! 🇷🇺🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇸🇷🇺
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 21 день назад
👌🏻
@erintyres3609
@erintyres3609 17 дней назад
This happened fifty years ago. The rescue equipment and methods described in the video were the best available at the time.
@jimsmith556
@jimsmith556 4 дня назад
Everything that could go wrong went wrong. The actual rescue using brute force to snap the hook and line was wonderful. Excellent coverage of this story.
@akefayamenay104
@akefayamenay104 15 дней назад
from what he says, I'd say it wasn't the CO2 scrubber that killed anyone. The broken scrubber fan was in the cockpit and they survived fine by basically pulling a bit of an apollo 13 with the scrubber media. If anything, the "passengers" died because their compartment was aluminum and got too cold for the scrubber material to work properly. They were also dressed improperly (despite being warned) and refused to attempt to exit the sub and try to remedy the problem even when their own compartment was at equal pressure for the depth and would have afforded them no extra risk by that point. We all get lax with things we've done a bunch of times, and it was this laxness by the two in the rear chamber (because they weren't planning to dive) that ultimately sealed their fate.
@patrickpierce3201
@patrickpierce3201 21 день назад
Nice I was there in Key West on the Naval base I was about 6 yrs old and remember seeing that sub on the deck of the ship. After they retrieved it from the wreck. Great video
@gordonpeden6234
@gordonpeden6234 21 день назад
Gripping narrative great explanation of a complex situation. Thank you! RIP those who lost their lives, and all who risked their lives in the rescue.
@infinitesimalperinfinitum
@infinitesimalperinfinitum 20 дней назад
It took us 60,000,000 years to get out of the ocean. STOP TRYING TO GO BACK!
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 13 дней назад
This reminded me of a Randy Feltface joke. "You know, when sharks eat people it's fucked; but it shits me how they immediately go out and kill the shark, like: 'It's gone rogue! It's gone rogue!' "No it hasn't! It's just doing what millions of years of evolution have programed it to do; fucking, swim around eating shit. "'Yeah, but... It came into our bit. This is our bit of the ocean'. "Wha? No. See that bit there, the big, fuckin' wet bit. That's it's bit. "This bit here, this dry bit, that you're standing on WITH YOUR LEGS; you're legs that have evolved to stand on the dry bit. That's you're bit. "You go into it's bit, you're going to GET bit. That's the lesson."
@Xhumed
@Xhumed 12 дней назад
Tell that to whales and dolphins, who came up on to land, went "fuck this" and got back in the ocean.
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 10 дней назад
@dhawthorne1634 No, the lesson is humans go where we please, and if an inferior species has a problem with that we’ll make them extinct. The dodo once complained we were stomping all over their island. Guess what? No more dodo. Hell, pandas are only still alive because they amuse us. So put on your top hat and do your best dance, shark-boys, or you’re next.
@dhawthorne1634
@dhawthorne1634 9 дней назад
@@zephyr8072 You are taking a quote from a standup comedy sketch WAY too seriously.
@edwardmyers8782
@edwardmyers8782 17 дней назад
Your in a submersible you smell something electrical burning you go up, period full stop straight up as quickly as you safely can
@nexaentertainment2764
@nexaentertainment2764 20 дней назад
I've heard this story at least half a dozen times on youtube to the point where I almost skipped this. Glad I didn't, you somehow added details and story telling that none of the others did. That's genuinely impressive. Like I could gripe about some other videos, especially ones someone like Brick Immortar covered (though, to be fair, his depth on a topic is incredible). I don't want that to sound back handed, this is genuinely impressive to me. Maybe it means nothing to you, but to me, I'm impressed.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 20 дней назад
Thanks, I do actually appreciate that. 👍🏻
@difdaf436
@difdaf436 21 день назад
From all the sub rescue videos I’ve watch, it always takes ages and many attempts to rescue people.. I think subs need like a weeks worth of baralime and triple redundancy fans for that system.. it always takes at least a day or 2 or 3 to finally rescue a sub…
@momchilandonov
@momchilandonov 8 дней назад
25:35 amazing that they had no spare diving bell in such a large area!
@AnythingForSouls
@AnythingForSouls 21 день назад
I love how there's a backups by design just in case because the people who built it cared enough but the operators see ones broken and decide it will be fine who needs a back up its never needed anyway and that's when you've tempted fate and your gonna regret it. If one fails what's stopping the other one failing its proof it happens don't be stupid and just get stuff fixed 99% of these diving accidents can be prevented by maintenance or if you don't feel safe just say your not doing it yeah might do your managers head in and someone else might take the risk and you lose that specific job but there's nothing they can legally do to you cant fire you or anything or if they do your better off get another place that might listen to you or you could probably file a lawsuit or rat to OSHA about it. Just take the reputation of being a pain and carry on living.
@thenorseman8964
@thenorseman8964 15 дней назад
After watching the rest of the video, I'm struck at how many times the rescue attempts were aborted when, if the initial dive was aborted in the first place, everyone could have survived.
@LemonCamel
@LemonCamel 22 дня назад
Always excited for your videos! Best channel for this type of content
@vicvinegar7671
@vicvinegar7671 21 день назад
Love the music that starts around 14:30, does a great job conveying the mood reminds me of the start of The Shining
@brunonikodemski2420
@brunonikodemski2420 18 дней назад
I myself almost killed a crew of three, while they were going into a deep dive down to 6000-feet, but had to abort at about 2000-feet. I had designed an underwater lamp/light controller, to allow dimming of 1000watt lamps, since they were too bright in many undersea applications. Unfortunately, the controller box was placed directly under an oil pressure line, which was leaking an dripping hydraulic fluid onto the box. The oil hit a couple of electrical components, reduced their heat transfer capacity, and resulted in hydraulic fluid being burned and vaporized. The crew thought they had an internal fire, donned breather masks, and emergency surfaced. Nonetheless, it took them 20+minutes to surface and get fresh air into this submersible. Had they been down at maximum depths, they probably would have run out of breathable air. The investigation cleared me, but the vehicle was rebuilt, to allow a full rise from 6000+feet, with full additional air/mix, and without heaters working, if electrical power was lost...
@Sole_Samurai
@Sole_Samurai 7 дней назад
Production value has gone up. Man is hitting us with these visual transitions. This is sick. Whole little tv show on youtube. The tragedies are unfortunate but I feel like the respect is handled well and with stances focused on getting the facts across
@ChaplainDaveSparks
@ChaplainDaveSparks 21 день назад
Great story, but also horrific. Originally, I was wondering why the rising air pressure inside couldn't just be vented to the water outside until I realized that the exterior water was under even more pressure. Too bad they can't just put an air fitting on the outside so that it could be connected to an air hose running to the surface.
@robbielime8477
@robbielime8477 22 дня назад
Great video. Very informative and well presented. Keep it up 👍
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
Thanks
@notj5712
@notj5712 17 дней назад
4:39. LOL, the classic picture of the rigged up Apollo 13 air scrubber. Edit: already noticed by others.
@craigk5452
@craigk5452 20 дней назад
All in the name of counting fish! Tragic.
@tonfleuren3536
@tonfleuren3536 21 день назад
1.6 bar partial pressure of oxygen isn't quite as dramatic as you make it sound, I know divers who regularly breathe 1.6 bar during decompression, and some even do that during the active part of a dive. That should not have prevented them from going outside to free the vessel. The fact that the gas they brought is not suitable for the depth they are diving to is frankly simply stupid. I know divers who regularly dive to 100m depth (even inside caves) using rebreathers. Sending divers on surface supply gear is also incredibly stupid. Everything that happened is a massive disregard of common sense, safety engineering and procedures, and incredibly poor planning.
@rundllx3228
@rundllx3228 11 дней назад
You can always tell who’s dead and who survived by the photos alone
@ACME_Kinetics
@ACME_Kinetics 21 день назад
Honestly I'd rather go to space in a Boeing than more than about 20m underwater. Maybe some of that is being raised in the desert, maybe some of it's just wanting for a quick death.
@runh3r0run
@runh3r0run 20 часов назад
I cannot believe how poor the rescue was from the get go. It seems like they just didn’t act well on the situation. Excellent recovery after some thought….
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 20 дней назад
It is frustrating when you consider the billions the armed forces spend yet frequently their fancy equipment doesn't work when needed. Notice how no progress was made until a commercial salvage vehicle showed up.
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ 9 дней назад
Indeed. Also, the levels of incompetence with this rescue operation is pretty staggering.
@loobielou6965
@loobielou6965 22 дня назад
Yaaaaaas week has been made 🙌 Thank you for all the hard work it must take to bring us top-notch content every week 💙
@dmacrolens
@dmacrolens 22 дня назад
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
😀 thanks
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 8 дней назад
Am I missing something? The scrubber whose fan failed was only for the pilots compartment, whose occupants survived. The divers compartment was a completely different system.
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 21 день назад
Maybe break away components would be a good idea on these.
@762Super
@762Super 21 день назад
Yay! Always glad to see a new upload!
@philbunston9663
@philbunston9663 22 дня назад
You've started adding " NOISE " in the background - Please don't .
@ZAN-THE-GOAT
@ZAN-THE-GOAT 4 дня назад
Noel Todd was on the ship when it first arrived saying it was a risking mission but hands went up by all to save fellow sea mates. No one cared about their own lives to save those men.
@floatingsystems2929
@floatingsystems2929 14 часов назад
The more expensive set being more V shaped doesn't seem like what you'd expect normally
@bearb1asting
@bearb1asting 20 дней назад
10 Atmospheres.... I can't believe they didn't want to just go for the dive. There just wasnt a way to reach them in time. It's tragic. I wonder if anyone had directly communicated the absoluteness of the math. Another excellent video. Thank you. May they rest in peace.
@thomasbell7033
@thomasbell7033 17 дней назад
"They're on the north side of the Berry." Shows bow of the Titanic. Okay, so you didn't have a photo of the bow of the Berry. Dude, we woulda let you slide on that. Enough with those Tieffintanic images, lol.
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 20 дней назад
Seems like there should be better systems for keeping people alive considering that every rescue attempt always takes an eternity longer than the air supply.
@tbas8741
@tbas8741 21 день назад
Why is one of the pics of the C02 Scrubber the pic from Apollo Space Capsule Co2 Scrubber they had to retrofit after the explosion that damaged their o2 supply. (That square box with tap on it was the fix NASA came up with and that picture is just mirror image of the picture taken in 1970's ) (Also Later the pic of large container with white liquid is from Stargate - Universe (tv series) )
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 22 дня назад
Paul you make the most exciting, yet terrifying video's. I find myself holding my breath or wondering what the hell. Love listening to your voice, hope all is well. 😉❤😉❤
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
Thanks Beverly. Yes all good. Hope you are too
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205
@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205 22 дня назад
@@waterlinestories All's good, be safe out there Paul 😉😉
@AlexForencich
@AlexForencich 14 дней назад
A lot of the stock footage/pictures in here have nothing to do with the incident in question, or even diving in general. It would be really neat to put some sort of a caption indicating what the picture is of (titanic, ISS, apollo 13 CO2 scrubber, etc.) to make it a bit easier to keep track of what's going on.
@zlm001
@zlm001 19 дней назад
The music mix was a little too loud for me compared to your voice. It's hard to hear you over the music.
@MidgetPunter
@MidgetPunter 5 дней назад
I never even heard music.
@RonGyver1337
@RonGyver1337 21 день назад
Didn't realize the Titanic wreck was off the coast of Florida.
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 22 дня назад
at first it sounded like the diving compartment had more air (like 60 vs 40h) I didn't totally understand what went wrong there, something about temp?
@user-dk8lo6fw3u
@user-dk8lo6fw3u 8 дней назад
Proceeding without a backup for a Critical (aka 'thing' that keeps you alive) system and entering a trebly hazardous area (underwater/poor visibility/wreck site) is cavalier in the extreme. If a simple off the shelf fan was replaced this entirely avoidable situation could have been averted.
@RayHikes
@RayHikes 4 часа назад
5:08 Lacking maintenance practices seem to be at the heart of many disasters, proceeding with equipment that isn't 100% functional is always rolling a dice.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 7 дней назад
Imagine designing a system that grabs hold of something, 104 metres under the sea, without having a means to release it! Imagine diving without a back-up fan! Imagine ignoring your skipper, when he advises you to wear warm clothing! Imagine having the means to save yourself but not being willing to leave the diving compartment!
@tarnyaattwell4841
@tarnyaattwell4841 16 дней назад
I love this channel. But the stories are heart breaking ❤
@alexreadsthings5677
@alexreadsthings5677 День назад
There should be a manually cranked blower as a tertiary measure
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 День назад
One thing I am not getting, is the issue is the CO2 in your exhalations, and it works worse when it is cold, right? So, you have the pellets, and you wrapped it in a shirt, why not do that and breathe directly through the bundle of pellets? That way the source of the CO2 will go directly into them, also when you inhale, the air will get a second chance to interact with the pellets before entering your body, and the heat of your body/breath will keep the pellets at a good operating temp.
@GarlTsagan
@GarlTsagan 21 день назад
bro you ought to make these embeddable
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 11 дней назад
It's like fate is actively preventing a rescue.
@christopherandersch1299
@christopherandersch1299 6 дней назад
And the fish trap was never recovered,it has disappeared.
@ouroesa
@ouroesa 14 дней назад
Wow, this highlights the incompetence I see every single day in the world around me as an adult. When younger, I thought adults were at least somewhat competent. Now, I shudder at the idea of my life being in the hands of another adult.
@Will-dn9dq
@Will-dn9dq 22 дня назад
Am i only one think well just blow out your breathe into the filter? Swing it around so air flows etc? Grab 3 hoses tape to it an everyone csn breath in nose out mouth? Seriously odd marine diving doesnt use marines thinking of improvise or dont go home Edit 15:17 he did improvise! Shirt filled w scrubber material held over a ac vent
@XtianApi
@XtianApi 11 дней назад
Jeez. The ocean wasn't even trying hard on that one. Scary.
@ristube3319
@ristube3319 4 дня назад
25:38 “People are suffocating and convulsing from lack of oxygen body spasms” Hey let’s hang out and wait for like 3 and a half hours first.
@christiandietz6341
@christiandietz6341 День назад
Lol at the photo of Titanic's bow😂
@tarwater123456
@tarwater123456 21 день назад
i really wish there wasn’t so much bad stock and obviously unrelated footage in these videos. if you don’t have footage it’s ok. and if you’re using something else as an example label it. but seeing the bow of the titanic, the diver with tanks fighting the current as you talk about how they have umbelicals was bad but then showing a clapped out ww2 submarine for the USS amberjack that was supposedly on the way to help???? did anyone review that???
@wesleyhobbs2332
@wesleyhobbs2332 7 дней назад
On a different note, this is the very reason why no one is going to Mars and back alive, CO2 scrubbers. There are many other reasons as well, but this one appears unsurmountable.
@SynchroScore
@SynchroScore 21 день назад
Why did you use the improvised scrubber made aboard Apollo 13 as your thumbnail image?
@pibyte
@pibyte 21 день назад
Because he is a RU-vidr and accuracy does not matter to his audience.
@SynchroScore
@SynchroScore 21 день назад
@@pibyte It matters to some audiences. I know a good number of RU-vidrs (myself included) who pride themselves on accuracy on their videos, to the point of voluntarily making corrections. I'm guessing that might have been the first return in a Google image search. The image has now been changed.
@hvguy
@hvguy 8 дней назад
Typical government branch is impressively under prepared for any task. It took 4 hours to secure the dive ship? The divers dropped to the wrong place TWICE! AMAZING
@dominicwaghorn6459
@dominicwaghorn6459 21 день назад
"..they needed better help, which brings us to the sponsor of todays show. Better Help,..."
@dmacrolens
@dmacrolens 22 дня назад
Thanks!!
@rainaldkoch9093
@rainaldkoch9093 4 дня назад
What about breathing out through the CO2 scrubber? Higher temperature and CO2 concentration.
@luxaly9510
@luxaly9510 7 дней назад
like with planes redundancy should be the rule... for everything critical there should be 2 ... so with the scrubbers they could have had a 2nd scrubber + replacements fans or even a hand driven fan...
@Tgspartnership
@Tgspartnership 22 дня назад
love your storytelling style
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 22 дня назад
Thanks👌🏻
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA 14 дней назад
So compancy and huburis killed them. The fan not working should have prompted a repair so you have 2 fans that way if that one failed you wouldn't be screwed. Two fan systems like this are NOT that complex if the men were able to open the panel locate the problem and even cobble together a replacement by using the scrubber material in front of the AC unit. They should have kept a few extra fans in a storage bin so they could hot swap the broken one out. Second this sub has a design flaw, there's no heater unit. They died because temps fell too low for the scrubbers to work, they should have had a small space heater or some type of heating unit onboard for this occasion lastly The divers were complacent and got themselves killed by NOT wearing their dive gear and only went in with t-shirts and shorts wtf? that was stupid. They'd be alive if they didn't do such a stupid thing because when pressed about diving they could have gotten out of the sub and used their hand tools to free the ship OR use the oxygen tanks attached to their suits to slowly surface themselves. Let this be a lesson to everyone that does a dangerous job that requires you wear PPE ALWAYS WEAR IT better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. If they brought their suits they'd be alive right now
@patrickscahillii9365
@patrickscahillii9365 6 дней назад
LIKE THEY USED TO TELL US IN THE NAVY, COMPLACENCY KILLS, SADLY IT'S TRUE IN THIS INSTANCE. THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER DECENDED WITH ONLY ONE SCRUBBER. CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILIES OF THE LOST
@abvmoose87
@abvmoose87 10 дней назад
Sighs, so the rescue equipment needed were on the other side of the continent? Great..
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