This CONSPIRACY CHANGED the College Football Landscape... (The Boise State vs TCU Fiesta Bowl) 

Kellen Moore is from my hometown and those years he started dor Boise State was some of the most electric years in CFB history. It was a damn shame what the NCAA was doing to these "smaller" schools that showed that they could hang with the big dogs every year. Boise State had some of the most dominant years ever and they were still weren't taking seriously in the rankings

It's not just a conspiracy, it's fact.

What always got me during that season was ESPN was singing TCU’s praises for being (correctly so) an amazing team. During conference championship week, ESPN was even suggesting that if Nebraska beat Texas, then TCU could play in the BCS championship because that’s how good they were. Then when Boise State beat TCU, ESPN turned around and said “wow you barely beat a mountain west team, how do you expect to play with the big boys?”

The BCS cabal was self-evident in 2009. When the Orange Bowl passed on TCU and chose 9-4 Va. Tech, leaving the undefeated Horned Frogs, with wins over Clemson, Virginia, and Utah (which had defeated 'Bama in the 2008 Sugar Bowl) for the Fiesta's second selection to take on Fiesta's first pick, Boise, it was unquestionable that the fix was in. Plainly the powers were worried that both TCU and Boise would defeat AQ teams and utterly expose the myth of AQ superiority over the best of the mid-majors.

Damn, I've been saying this for years! My dad and I watched the BCS Bowl Game selection show and said to him before any of the bowl games announced, "If they have TCU vs Boise there's serious white collar bullshit going on behind the scenes". My dad hated my cynicism but was in total agreement.

Looking back, those TCU, Boise, and Utah teams all could've won a national championship if they weren't saddled with the G5 moniker. From 2008-2010, at least one of those teams should've gotten a chance, because all of them would've been capable of doing so.

Bcs died the day Kellen Moore took a knee against Georgia in Atlanta.

The Frogs and the Broncos could have run with anyone in the country those days. There was probably and effort to minimize the schools. But you can’t minimize the excitement that was…. The play on the field was just too great.

FBS football is such a weird sport. P5 conferences just hate giving G5 a chance simply because their big brands and big money. I always confused by those people who refused bigger playoffs, they thought the games would be blowouts, and G5 shouldn't be in the conversation with P5. In my opinion, if we have FCS playoff system in FBS, in the long term, recruiting will be much different and give chances for G5 to build their brands because those new playoff spots. As a neutral fan, I really wish to see more more faces.

I’m a UF alum and I wanted Florida to play Boise State or TCU. It was such bullshit that they matched up TCU and Boise State in the same bowl game.

I would love to see an SEC team play a game in November or December in Laramie, Boise , Provo, Fort Collins or Reno.

As a boise state fan, this infuriated everyone in idaho

I’ll tell you what, those Mountain West and WAC conference games were FUN back in the day. Utah, Boise State, TCU, and Hawaii all made BCS appearances within a few year span. Part of me wishes they would’ve all come together instead of going their separate ways and (some) joining P5 conferences.

It started when Boise St. beat Oklahoma & it was made worse when Utah upset Alabama. Alot of powerful people lost alot of money. Every since that happened the establishment made sure it wasn't going to happen again.

Boise state has offered every major school a home and home and 99% of them won't play Boise state. They'll play all them division 2 teams but don't want anything to do with Boise. Just too bad they had to get rid of the small schools entirely with paying players now. It's a shame because Boise state will always be dominate in any division they play.

I always thought that one second given to Texas helped form some cracks in the Big XII

I still have that first droid in a drawer somewhere… the slide keyboard was kinda cool back then

Living here in Boise and growing up during their rise, even though I’m a USC Trojans fan all the way, the urge to have them or TCU (somewhat of rivals) play a big boy school was always an itch but it was just a big risk for the big school to take. The what ifs of sports!

Can't wait to see how things develop this season with a 12 team playoff!

When you say that SEC schools go through a tough SEC schedule, are you referring to their 8 game conference schedule or their schedule that include creme puffs/sisters of the poor?

this video is further proof that NCAA basketball tourney to superior to the NCAA FB bowl system...in BB, you'd get to see a 30-1 team from a "lower" conference get its shot at a 29-5 P5 school..on paper, the P5 should dominate, but on the hardwood, the game could go either way

It's not a conspiracy it's a fact

BCS was a huge fraud the mysterious and all knowing "Computer" was a bunch of dudes in a back room trying to figure out what championship matchup would attract the most the most money. The playoff is the same, it's not about deciding who the best team is, it's all about cash.

Odd fun fact,Boise and TCU where part of my dream schools( ECU and Texas tech also) that I wanted to play ball at. Got a 3rd string offer from Boise and Kick off team for Texas tech,in the end didnt go with either an went to culinary school. Allot of info for no reason but cool to see both programs in a video

I Remember that Year Vividly. It was Very Disappointing but was Inevitable.

That blue field captured me as a fan as a kid, but Kellen Moore kept me a fan, also awesome he ended up going to my favorite NFL team

I think what really bugged me about this wasn't just the #4TCU vs #6BSU as much as we just watch this game the year before when they were #11 and #9 and played each other. As fans we wanted to see if they can hang with the big boys for a game and never got that chance. Or was the NCAA still scared of what BSU did to Oklahoma in 06 who everyone thought was the best team that year and didn't want it to happen twice in one year this time around.

I was so thrilled to see Boise State beat TCU!! Kellen is still a hero in Boise.. as he should be. Go Broncos!!!! 😁💙🧡🐴🏈

May we never forget Kellen Moore, no Division I quarterback will ever approach 50 career wins

it was less about The Teams And Their Ranking and more About The TV Ratings

there was 1 second left on the clock in the texas gm its clear as day like what...

I'll never knock a team for a weak schedule. The players and coaches don't decide who they play. Beat all opponents, get a shot at a title.

Both of these teams would have gotten boat raced by Florida that year

There was absolutely a conspiracy, those 2 teams were scaring the powers that be all year. They knew both teams had a real shot of showing up anyone in the country and watching the Fiesta bowl vs the national title game they were right. The Fiesta bowl was the real national title game, both teams could have beaten Texas or Bama

Playing devils advocate. TCU has only had 3 10+ win seasons since joining the Big 12 so yeah it’s very plausible they never deserved a chance to play for the BCS title. A lot of 7 and 6 win seasons since 2012

wheres the sound

If you could go back and add the 4 team playoff to these years…. Things would be interesting

2011 Sugarbowl Virginia Tech vs. Michigan. IT WAS A CATCH!!!

Also let’s not forget Sugar in 2011 picking middling Michigan and a Virginia Tech team who had gotten creamed in ACC championship over a Kellen Moore led team. Sugar was half empty and would’ve been full with Boise against anyone else. What an idiotic business decision.

It's funny that Cincinnati would be the blocker in this scenario as they were essentially on the outside too.

Good video! I would advise that you work on adding new variations to your inflections. Every sentence has the exact same shape that makes it somewhat difficult to listen to and takes some attention away from your actual points. You wouldn't need to force a change too hard; just don't end each sentence with the same up and down voice pattern. Hope that advice is welcome and you keep up the good work! :~)

I’m a longhorn fan I got so drunk off 75cent keystones during the title game

Imagine if we had the playoff back then. 🤣

The NCAA will always make sure that the big schools will never be left out.

i think boise state back then would have annihilated texas, but omg we cant have a non qual in the national championship, and we never saw what we should have

Does anyone ever wonder if Boise state would have made the natty that 2010 season? If I’m not mistaken I believe it was Alabama v Notre dame that year. I feel like it would be hard to deny them after all those undefeated seasons in a row a a couple fiesta bowls

Everybody know TCU got screwed in back to back years. Fun Fact TCU was named Natl Champs in 2010 even though Auburn won.

And due to this. TCU and Boise State have never been the same since. Be on one of the top squads in the country but I’m in Boise so I fall hard in the draft due to it. Sad seeing boring football played by the SEC week after week when the small schools that played on innovation are being sapped by bigger programs. Went from a constant thrill ride better than any sport to less of an entertaining product than minor league baseball

Not talked about enough is how Boise was only two years removed from their victory over Oklahoma in the fiesta bowl, which is seen as among one of the greatest football games played at any level. They proved that they can stand up to the big dogs. Most would agree that the 2009 squad was far better than the 2007 squad.

Nebraska got so fucked over, there never should have been any time remaining let alone review it

I'm not a fan of either team, On Wisconsin! Pardon me, that happens from time to time. I remember at the time thinking that BSU, definitely got screwed out of a national title, opportunity. Their season averages were as good, and actually in a lot of categories BSU had better numbers than alabama. Albeit against "lesser opponents", but we had 2 really good undefeated teams that should have faced off. Keep in mind that BSU outscored, gave up less yards, out threw, threw less interceptions, had more first downs and punted less than alabama. It definitely would have been a fun game to watch. But my money would have been on the winningest qb in college football history and the Broncos to take it.

The BCS absolutely kept non-automatic qualifying conference teams down. There is a whole litany of them during the run of the BCS and it is even worse now. Western Michigan went undefeated in '16 and didn't get into the playoff despite being one of only two undefeated teams in 1-A that year. Central Florida still claims a National Title for their undefeated 2017 season when they weren't selected as one of the four playoff participants, despite being the only undefeated Division 1-A team at the end of that regular season, and then their 2018 squad was denied *again* after an undefeated regular season. Two undefeated regular seasons in a row and they couldn't even sniff an invite to the playoff. I wish there wasn't so much money at stake so that the non-P5 teams would be more willing to just not play the P5 squads. Maybe set up their own season and tournament or something. I hate it.

despite auburn being in the SEC they suffered from this too the year they had cadillac williams, ronnie brown, and jason cambell. Top 3 offense and defense but they put oklahoma in ahead of them and they got smoked by USC because they didnt belong there

Don't forget the 2012 season in which Notre Dame was the media darling all year, despite escaping two close calls to inferior teams, just to get mopped all over the field by Bama in the championship. If you want to know just how shady the rankings are, look no further than the yearly circle jerk around Notre Dame.

Yeah this game was the beginning of the end for the BCS, everyone hated them even more after this

Bosie State is STILL ballin out

My favorite college football conspiracy is how these schools managed to sell their students’ likenesses to EA games and others for decades while also criminalizing said players receiving a single dollar for their work lmao

I'm tired of hearing about this mid majors would never be able to play a power 5 schedule. Everyone seems to forget the fact that if the mid majors (Boise, UCF, ect ) played in the power 5 they would have more access to power 5 players. Right now they are pulling 2-3 star athletes. Just being in the power 5 opens up their recruiting tremendously, thus improving their roster, thus making them even more competitive, thus making them able to play with the "big boys".

I know for a fact that Boise State would’ve beaten most of the SEC teams

Yes, there was a conspiracy to prevent non auto qualifiers from playing qualifiers. Why? Aside from a Hawaii/Georgia BCS bowl game, the non auto Qualifiers won every time. The BCS school presidents that are running their mouths are the same guys that have never been a school president of a non BCS school. Why aren't we hearing from the guys who've been at both, such as Bernie Machen? That guy was at both Utah and Florida. He hired Urban Meyer for the head coaching job at both schools.

Not really a conspiracy per say, but more of a “what if” situation that revolves around Rich Rodriguez’s career. What if he went to Alabama when offered the job. Alabama would not have had the success it has had since Nick Saban was their coach. Another what if is what if rich Rodriguez won that game against Pitt and stayed at wvu. At the time wvu got 5 star Noel Devine and was set to get Terrelle Pryor the next season. Terrelle Pryor in wvu’s offense would have continued Pat White’s success.

This video just shows that there should be a minimum 16 team maximum 24 team playoff

Me personally I feel that with NIL and the Transfer portal you will have G5 Schools With money like for example SMU & UTSA use that money they have😂 and use it On NIL to bro g in players

Interesting though. My other comment was comment number 500 and only one single comment is showing. Someone didn’t get the responses they expected…

TCU has been robbed of 2 playoff opportunities, and they could have definitely won it all in 2014

It's just Power 5 elitism at its finest

Chris Petersen had Boise St right as well as Washington

Not gonna lie, as a Canadian who likes sports but doesn't follow US college football, I have absolutely no idea what is going on here

Yes! It is the same way that Utah got screwed the previous year. I once sat down and mapped out all the bowl games with all the conferences... You could totally create a winner takes all tournament using the existing bowl games to decide the national championship. It has stuck in the big conference's craw ever since BYU was awarded the National championship in 1984. In their defence they either defeated every other major contender or beat the team that beat the other contenders that particular year and finished as the only undefeated team. But they were an inferior team from an inferior conference and therefore didn't deserve it and the powers-that-be set out to make sure it would never happen again. So every time an upstart small-school dares lift up its head... slap! Behind-the-scene manipulation.

Good video however TCU did not “upset” Wyoming in the 2011 as TCU was favored.

What a lot of people don’t realize is that had Texas lost, Texas or Florida would have likely played in the title anyway. This happened in 2003, when OU got blown out in the Big 12 title game, and still came out as the BCS number 1. The computers always favor the bigger conferences. Also, what the video really glosses over is that the Big East was still around which is why Cincy got an automatic bid. The Big East was really trending down after the defection of Miami, Florida St, and Boston College. Talks of them losing their automatic bid were already in the works and when five more schools left in the coming years, it was a done deal. Not many people thought that highly of Cincy and them playing Florida was not much different than TCU or Boise playing Florida. Having said that, I believe both TCU and Boise would have played Florida better, but doubt either could beat them with it being Tebow’s last game. And yes, it was really stupid to have TCU and Boise play each other, but I don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theory. I think the Fiesta Bowl picked the best teams for the best matchup and the Rose Bowl’s Big Ten/PAC 10 history limited the options. Unfortunately, it didn’t line up with what we the fans wanted and thus we’ll never know if they’d have upset an Ohio State, Oregon or Iowa.

Records and win loss does not mean anything lest you play top 20 teams 3 4 times a yr

Those late 2010 Boise teams NEVER getting a shot at a title is baffling to me. They were good. Hell they beat ou with a statue of liberty one of the best David Goliath moments ever. They should claim at least one title same as ucf did after 2 straight undefeated seasons. Bcs failed the little guy. Also imagine an undefeated power 5 team in Utah not playing for a title.

They will get it straight 2024… Top 12 Teams…

I just hate the “weekly gauntlet” argument. Every SEC team gets a free fcs game once year, plays teams like Vanderbilt (and one other really bad team, depending on the year) and only has 8 conference games.

Florida was going to boat race any team in that bowl game

It sounds like it pains this guy to talk.

The SEC should have scheduled Boise State in non-con to test the theory.

It was a conspiracy!!!

TCU fan here absolutely true at one point Kirk Herbstreit Findlay just straight up said TCU just did Not have enough fans.even now in the Big XII look they just robed it taking UT & OU so they can once again put up that argument. Same teams every year has been booring as a National Championship game Alabama is making college football as booring as F1 Lewis Hamilton& Michael Schumacher 7 year championships in that sport that is a decade & a half two winners most of the time next 30 years. I mean SEC is the National Champions most of the time. I really think the US is the land of opportunity where the underdog can get ahead and today the rich get richer and larger schools have pushed out TCU the smaller schools just reflects the authoritarian society we have become made college football less appealing now too.

Being a Boise State my whole life and going to these games, I felt this was the golden age of college football. Now the sport has become so much more bland that it's just SEC dominated every year. The only teams that make the CFP are usually Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and if you're lucky maybe Ohio State makes it. I'd even be happy just to see USC in the top 5 again. With the southeast dominance, every year of this sport is so predictable. Not as fun as it used to be.

How could these smaller schools ever show they belong if they don’t get the opportunity? Well scheduling strong OOC opponents for one. But they never did that. That’s why they didn’t beling

I have always said the west (in general) has some of the most innovative football I have seen. I wish that eastern teams should play western teams more often. It causes a stale product, when there is no diversity in scheduling.

Fucn fact: the QB of the Nevada team that beat Boise State was Colin Kaepernick 😯

As seperate to the information of this video, I would like someone to explain to me why Texas made the national championship over TCU. Now selection for the BCS in 2009 came from 66% weight ranking of human polls of the AP, Coaches and Harris Polls and 33% BCS computer polls. I understand that there would be some variability on the computer based polling to a certain degree but statistically Texas clearly made the selection over TCU. The problem is I don’t see any reason why they were. In terms of performance on the season, TCU beat both ranked opponents by a larger margin of victory and averaged a larger margin of victory on the season than UT. On offense was ranked #5 in total offense by SRS, #3 in total offense by SP+ and by the NCAA Offensive Production they ranked #4. On defense they ranked #1 in the country across SP+ and SRS. Now for everyone favorite comparison of P5 and G5 teams - SOS. At face value TCU should get the nod as per the BCS rankings they beat more and higher ranked opponents than Texas: TCU: beat #12 BYU 38-7, #18 Utah 55-28 and #20 Clemson 14-10. Texas: beat #13 Nebraska 13-12, #19 Oklahoma State 41-14 But very often the number of ranked wins and what ranked team you beat has historically not mattered for G5 teams, so let’s look at how SOS was actually calculated at the time. Per the BCS SOS was measured by “determining the cumulative won/loss records of the team's opponents and the cumulative won/loss records of the teams' opponents' opponents. The formula shall be weighted two-third (66 2/3%) for the opponent's record and one-third (33 1/3%) for the opponents' opponents record.” Now I actually went through and did the full scale calculation for both Texas and TCU and this is what I found: Texas - opponents records: 87-78 - Opp-opp records: 1117-958 - 0.348 + 0.183 = 0.531 TCU - opponents records: 80-69 - Opp-opp records:1036-799 - 0.354 + 0.184 = 0.538 So even statistically speaking TCU had a superior SOS than Texas. So how is it that a team with a greater margin of victory, better defense, better SOS and only ranked 1 spot behind Texas on offense, somehow got ranked two spots behind Texas by the BCS?

Cincinnati was not in a Power 5 so if TCU or Boise had beaten Cincy it wouldn't have mattered

Money controls people

what's more corrupt, DC or college football?

Most Power 5 schools don't want playoffs. They want to keep the big bowls for themselves because it means more money for their schools and conferences. Personally I thought BCS was a joke from the beginning, and have been pushing for 16 teams. This would provide the same number of rounds as the FCS playoffs, but include more teams. All FBS conference champions would receive an automatic bid, and the remaining spots would be wild cards. Let them play on the field to decide who the best team is, giving all FBS conferences a chance.

Thankfully we have a playoff now that allowed Cincinnati to get the ass whooping these teams wanted.

It was definitely a conspiracy. If you allow both of them to play better teams as they say and they both win, how would the major conferences counter that. I remember i was pissed when this happened and to this day still upset about it. I have learned over the years it's all about $ so I don't get upset anymore. People laugh when I tell them it's all a setup then they see it comes true and be like 🤔 I think you maybe right lol.

They ruined college football because of it

Favorite college conspiracy is kirk ferentz coaching iowa for 30 years then giving his son who has preformed worse than any coach at his position in a power 5 conference the head coaching job when he is done leaving iowa being coached by the same family for 50+ years. Can you tell me another school in a power 5 that has had a coach for that long without winning 🤔

U want a conspiracy? The great 3 blind referee debacle of O5. Oklahoma at Oregon. Do that video

I hated the BCS system, and think that the two round "play-off" is more or less the same thing -- unfair systems where 40% of the teams have no prayer of even sniffing the championship game even if the run the table. But in all fairness, you could maybe argue that this is just a system that's closer to rendition that we see in other country's sports leagues, and not like the play-off oriented systems that we're used to here. FIFA uses a lot of rendition for their non-American club leagues: different leagues exists in given countries, ranked by quality/competitiveness. You move up and down based on performance. Arguably, if you're a mid-major, your job isn't to compete for a national title, its to impress the Power conferences so that you can move into one to compete for a national title potentially. Its a deviation from what we're used to, but not necessarily quite as unheard of or unfair as you would think.

You may not remember, but Florida beat Cincinnati really bad…2010 in the bowl…51-24

Why? Because they could. Smart? No. They didn't think it would be so obvious. Boise earned the opportunity.

The BCS was rigged so the major conferences got all the money. The president of the BCS was the president of the SEC and the AD of one of the SEC programs. When BSU not only beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, but also held the best running back in the nation to less than 100 yards shocked everyone.

Still not as upsetting as 2014...

I don't think you're giving enough to the bowl presidents. They know to make money for their bowl they have to have teams that people want to see. All of this is negotiations based on revenue. Money makes this happen, not hate or love for schools.