Just a FYI - I made a mistake, the bike IS included with the water bottle (and strap for the bottle also), I incorrectly stated that you have to purchase it as an extra. Sorry to provide incorrect info
Do you still have to pay for delivery box aswell? Looked af getting a canyon last year and I thought it was madness they were charging £18 for the delivery box
That’s just oppositional without thought. I own this bike and buying the bottle is no big deal when up look at the spec and the fact that this is a downhill, bike park bike that has a category 5e bombproof frame. I don’t think that was explained enough in the review. It’s not a trail bike, and being a gravity bike the water bottle won’t fly out.
The water bottle is the only thing turning me off buying this beast, if only someone made some clean shroud that covers it or maybe a shroud with integrated tool kit or something.
I have that bike, it ripppps. Turns on a dime. I don't have the water bottle. I also have another e bike that is twice the price. The Canyon is just as good
I bought this bike (the Ken Roczen version) and i really like it. That water bottle is just mint. I updated the Zeb fork to 190mm for a tat more ground clearance on the BB and put some 145mm PINND cranks arms on it to prevent pedal strikes. Now this is the bike that can do it all. From 80+km XC rides to Trail/Enduro and Bikepark laps. I also own a Commencal Power Meta Trail, but i hardly touch it anymore. Rock solid bike! 💯❤
When paying this much for a bike and they then expect me to pay extra for the novelty water bottle to go with said bike, it would be enough to think screw you I'll spend my money elsewhere.
This is one of the highest spec value bikes out there. huge Performance to price ratio. The bottle isn’t that much. I don’t see how this is a big deal.
I ordered an e-bike from Canyon. Bike turned up with no keys. I asked for the keys to be sent out but they said it was not possible and the bike had to be returned with no date on a replacement bike. They then took a couple of months to return my money. Customer service was terrible. I would never order from them again.
There are so many stories like this that keep me from buying their bikes. A normal bike with fewer parts, like a gravel bike I could get behind, I don't need much support and can do everything myself. But an e-bike? No way.
@@greggory448 Seal heads have all been changed to the latest one as I haven't had a problem since on my 2023 X2 and cures aeration as that was my main problem with the 2023.
The 801 is no match for the Bosch and that's why they already have a newer motor coming than the 801. Sadly they are all incompatible with each other as you'd expect. The newer motor coming apparently has more over run etc.
Love the bike - HATE the water bottle. Adding weight that high up is insane. Plus I carry 2 litres on a long ride out (in a back pack bladder) so I would have to carry a stupid empty bottle just to fill an ugly hole. Sole reason I wouldn't consider buying the bike.
The bike weighs 26 KG, a 600g water bottle (2.3% of the total weight) makes practically zero difference. I rode one at a Canyon Demo day last year (Windhall) and it was absolutely awesome. This thing would eat the Mega Avalanche for breakfast !
I'm pretty sure there isn't another ebike out there that could compete with the torque:on 8s components for the price. Maybe the YT Decoy, but I'd love to hear what bike you consider better
I don’t like the shimano motor the water bottle is not intergrated very well and plenty of nicer bikes out there. I would not waste my money also bike is U.G.L.Y. Rob you make great videos but this bike is a no go .
If only there was someway to access water without a bottle from the cage? Maybe something that goes on the back or even hip...and then has like a hose to use like a straw? Naaaah, that's crazy thinking. Better to over engineer a cutout space in the frame with a fancy bottle at the worst spot for CG high and forward and add another 600 g....genius!😉🍻 Otherwise, looks good, long travel and big battery!👌
That water bottle design is just unacceptable......we all have different opinions on things but that design is beyond ugly. It's like someone trying really hard to earn worst looking bike award.
Why not bosch motor? All shimano motors are shit. Ha HaHa😂 rob i was buying the trek rail 9.8 xt 2022 becuse of you. There are not copetitors for this bike and motor. I use to have many problems with this bike, untill i start working and fixing them by m y self. Now its riding flowless. I just dont understand people who buy all the wanabe E biks.🎉❤😂
They really polarized their customer base with a frame designed around a non standard water bottle. Ride without it and the ugly, empty compartment is staring you in your face the whole ride. Ride with it empty and it’s probably rattling the whole time. Some folks prefer to have the weight on their bodies rather than the bike. As other commenters have pointed, it’s the main reason I won’t consider buying this And it’s just plain ugly. The water bottle is the cyber truck of water bottles 😂
I love mine. I have this same exact bike and it is great from XC to bike park. I am a season pass hold at a ski lift bike park and this rides like a DH bike. This is like a mini YT Tues and the rear end looks like it too. $4800 US no tax no shipping for Black Friday sale
This is a great bike. I have one myself. Excellent review Rob, you touch on the points that I have also experienced. I changed the saddle and replaced the pedal arms with Pinnd shorter pedal arms. It is now an awesome piece of kit I know the water bottle is a bit marmite but it works really well 👍
everyone hating on the water bottle and not the fact someone is riding an emtb 🤣 makes a change. the bike is awesome i love my torque:ON CF9! the water bottle is a bonus in my opinion. drill through the sides of the bottle mount and you can add a strap if choose to, have tools/innertubes/spares instead as there is quite a large gap to fill👌
Super cool bike and tech... except that water bottle unfortunately is a miss. Try replacing it in a few years when not available, top weight, and noisy.
I have this Canyon and another e bikes. My other bike was twice as much as the canyon. My Canyon is 51lbs with the 700 series battery. I made several modifications, rims,155 cranks, and thin pedals to help with strikes. It turns on a dime. Hate on the bike because of the water bottle set up, but give it a ride if you can.
strive vs torque on, 801 vs CX coming soon? Also, I just saw a video from another channel that compared the over-run of the two (only in turbo on the 801), and lots of comments today saying shimano just released an app update that allows tuning the over-run. EDIT.. your vid also just dropped: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oB8UANzzG7g.html I would love to see more info and comparison; I'm a current analog strive owner and looking to go electric this year. Thanks!
they say both are similar power except 801 cadence is more reactive to your pedal style whatever that means,,,,i have a cannondale with bosch cx motor and turbo mode it nice...powers up hills no problem...the only issue is my bike is heavy 57lb...im looking to buy lighter ebike 40lbish with same power...maybe neuron...or cannondale Sl.....
Note to Canyon “ spend you time on 1 The absolute shit paint quality and 2 YOUR ABSOLUTE DISGRACEFUL CUSTOMER SERVICE. BTW even when you have addressed this I still wouldn’t buy a Canyon…ever !
Rob, if you think that water bottle looks cool, then I suspect Canyon have "influenced" you in some way. It's the one thing that completely ruins this bike.
just to give everyone who doesn't ride an Ebike a good idea of the real world range on a 900wh battery on the canyon spectral ON with the new ep801....i'm about 225 with all my bike gear on, i did just under 21 miles, 3310 elevation gain, and had about 20% left on the battery. I ran it in boost on the service roads and trail on the descents. I find i like eco or trail even on the downs. sometimes you run into flatter connecting trails before going back down, or even small punchy climbs, and having the motor on, just makes it that much faster and easier.
Raving about a bottle holder hole in a very basic 2 wheeled wehicle frame (even a dirtbike is more complex) in the age of space rockets and AI... sry, but so ridiculous. The MTB crowd are bit simple, aren't they? :) I know this is an advertisment of course...
To each their own. And while I kinda like this bike, I noticed from many of your videos that you and I definitely have different preferences in what makes a good e-bike. I’m not a fan of huge burly tanks for bikes. Much prefer the lightweight SL versions. I’ve noticed you really like the powerful and burly bruisers with as much power as possible. I also dislike the overrun that you say you like ! Definitely want my bikes to feel like regular bikes as much as possible. Light , playful and poppy. For everything else I’ll ride a motocross bike, and I think a lot of moto guys might agree. We already have motocross bikes so for us we want a bicycle to be a bicycle. I think the Orbea Wild strikes a good balance of power and nimbleness (for a full power bike ). But again. To each their own !
Not a fan of that bottle or the space for it in the top tube. Much prefer being able to use a regular bottle and store it further down the bike on the down tube, like on my Orbea Wild. Perfectly engineered.
The frame design simply doesn't have the space for a normal water bottle so let's move on from the proprietary bottle LOL. Never heard water bottle a thousand times before FFS
I bought the ebike 3 weeks ago and motor rattles like crazy i hate that , paid 8k for bike and it starts rattling like chinese toy after 100km... all bolts tight..
I am on the fence between this and one of the Haibike allmtn 7 upwards range, first e-bike potentially for living and travelling around the english lake district, any preferences or recommendations?
That's gotta be the dumbest place for the battery. You have to turn the f-ing bike upside down?! Yeah, it's better than fully integrated battery which isn't replaceable, but every other solution is way better that I have seen. And you need the battery to be easily removable if you need to store your bicycle outside in the cold/winter period as temps below 5C are bad for the battery (easily happens during the night near or after the winter).
Looks like a great bike... but the very aspect that they've focused the whole design around, is the very thing completely putting me off...and you can't opt out of it.
Competitor for the 'Ugliest bike 2024" . Proprietary water bottles lol. No good for little me at 167c (5" 6"). Can't honestly think of a positive, except maybe the motor.
@@UKMitchy it's 24.7 with 900wh and pedals, so 23.7 with the 720...it's not heavy, it's not super light but it ain't heavy, you can drive what you want but it's not an heavy bike for what it does and have
they could easily raised the Top Tube given the length of the seat mast,then a standard bottle would have fitted in the frame, the bottle they have is ugly and an extra cost. headset routing looks neat but is hell to live with. Yeah Nah pass.....
I like the agressive styling but thats about where i lose interest. #1 the water bottle is dumb! its not where you want weight and you have to buy the water bottle seperate! The bike also looks terrible with out it. #2 It still has a cassette get a pinion gearbox on that thing.
hmm not sure about the water bottle, i hate plastic water bottles they give the plasticy taste to the water. If there would be a possibilty to mount a range extender battery instead that would work for me.
Cool idea with the water bottle, but mad to think it’s not included with the bike as it’s a cheap item and the bike looks silly without it. Also can manufacturers please move away from the shimano motor, they can’t be repaired ( by shimano or 3rd party repair shops ) - no spares available, expensive to replace and always on a long lead time. Plus they like to have software issues. I personally avoid any bike if it has a shimano motor for the above reasons.
I really wanted to buy this bike in Ken roczen coloring. But that ugly waterbottle was big dealbreaker for me. Went with gen 4 rail instead. Happy with the buy
Cool bike, and I actually like the water bottle. But matched against other bikes, such as Haibike Nduro, Scott Ransom Eride, and dare, I say dengfu E82, this bike just doesn't sell me. Personally. The Canyon doesn't exactly capture what LT emtbs are about. The Canyon seems built heavily specifically for DH/park.
I own this bike and nice review. The motor is less important than what this bike is designed for which is gravity, bike park, and downhill. I ride downhill a lot and never hit the bottom bracket and for jumps the lower BB height makes this bike one of the best jumpers on the market, so raising the BB would ruin the bikes intended use. I think you could’ve explained more on what the bikes purpose is vs talking about the motor. People that buy a bike just for the motor really aren’t looking at the whole picture because all the motors are pretty good out there and you need to ask yourself does the frame / spec if the bike fit your needs and your riding style. This bike fits mine needs perfectly because I like gravity flow trails downhill. It will do technical climbs just fine, but that is not its intended use. you take the fire road up or the easy trail and then you bomb down with confidence due to that low center of gravity.
Press brief from canyon -> Rob, please downplay bosch, please up play Shimano EP8 and cable XT gears - avoid talking about how perfect Specialized is, how great AXS is and dont mention that their product is sold out because of it.
Hi Rob, another great bike review, thanks for that 🙏 My question is: I have the Norco Range Vlt C2 enduro e-bike with the Shimano EP8. Can I actually upgrade this bike to the EP801 motor w the new software upgrade with the overrun? (Are the motor mounts the same?) Or is there a chance to upgrade the software on the EP 8 to have the overrun there? Many thanks for your answer 🙏😉Keep up your great work. Gratitude 🙏
Its a pass, there r some better choices with larger capacity batterys and less weight then on that Canyon... not to mention that weird hole mid frame after u loose the bottle😆
The motor and bottle are a deal breaker. Bosch or Pinion MGU and belt drive would be great, and get rid of the bottle. I wear a pack and would never use that bottle. It’s too much weight up high and in front.
