This Electric Dirtbike has CLUTCH and GEARS! // 2024 Alien Rides Moto X 

I don’t think he had a TikTok bro

what is tiktok

And who are you?. What is your rank?😊

Herp derp tikta

@@17lombac damn bro you being on youtube makes you soooo much different than the people on tiktok lmao

there is still 1 thing missing, thats the best thing about dirt bikes. Its the sound. like I can't be doing 60 mph in silence I wana hear the power not just feel it. But if it was super moto maybe.

with its thin frame pipes ? wish you luck on landing

Someone already makes an eBike with gears, from China.

@@Next96300 So true, no hate for e bikes but I dont like when people say they better then normal 2t or 4t dirt bikes they aint better only faster of the line.

​@@unsmonster4024what s the difference between e super moto and e dirt bike??? 😂😅

nice bike

ive been waiting to see who was going to put gears on electric first its awsome

@@neonx8419 they are not the first that have done it

@@Rippinandfishin then WHO did?

@@neonx8419 time-et

Do all that whit brakes on, its align brakes same time👍

Nah uh

Lol right? if anything the Surron is more illegal, just slap a plate on it and your gucci

​@@EricFrazer32yh but getting a plate needs work that just is not worth it to make on every bike (ik im very late)

I wouldn’t be able buy one, with my back injury I wouldn’t be able to set it up out of the box

@@aussiegruber86 nobody asked

Why the AE86 conversion that was featured on Hoonagian got me excited cause it was electric converted but he retained the clutch and gearbox

Word bro😂😂

the whole point of a clutch is to be able to modulate power from 0 upwards. so if you can already do that with the throttle because electric motors not need to sit at a non zero idle rpm like combustion motors do (not to mention a flat torque curve unlike combustion engines where u may need to hit a certain rpm and then start feathering clutch to get necessary power to the ground), then the whole concept of a clutch becomes redundant.

Yep. Was disappointed not to see some clutch pops experimenting through the gears. Just rode it like a twist and go :(

@@Mtron1000 I don’t think you’re wrong but I think it depends on the rider and the bikes in this case as well. Your point is totally valid if one has as much throttle control as they do clutch control. Most people don’t. So the skill is transferable. I also think in trial situations you still need the extra resolution afforded in clutch control; however haven’t personally done it myself so you could be spot on. Also traction control likely eliminates some of this need :)

@@Mtron1000 Clutch is still critical for more advanced techniques. On an electric, it's not needed for casual riders. But for advanced riding, yes a clutch is still required. That's why the Electric Motion e-trials bikes still have hydraulic clutches. There is so much more fine motor control and dexterity in your index finger than in your wrist, especially when your wrist is doing triple-duty also steering and holding on. It's why whisky-throttle is such an issue with autoclutch (Rekluse) users.

@@WASemiHardEnduro The clutch also allows for getting to speed without pulling so many amps which extends the run time. If it's 1 gear and geared for 70mph, it will pull a lot of amps to get up to 75% speed, but with a clutch and multiple gears, it takes some of that load off the battery, if you use it correctly and consistently. Also, if your in a slower area where it's more technical, keeping it in the lower gear will pull less amps during that as well. Then if your somewhere where you can just cruise at 50mph, the motor won't rev so high to maintain that speed in a higher gear, which isn't nearly as impactful as the power drawn to get to that speed, but it would help also.

there ara actually no great advantages of having a clutch. the motor can pull from 0 rpm and you can't gain torque by using the clutch and revving the motor, all the torque is available without the clutch. you can't stall, so the clutch is really only here to switch gears which you should be able to quick shift without the clutch anyway the electric motor has virtually zero inertia compared to an engine with similar power output. also if you delete the gearbox suddenly the bike is lighter, more efficient and more reliable, you have more power at the wheel. no more oil changes, no more clutch or gearbox to wear. you might also be able to squeeze a bigger battery or controller. maybe tune for a bit more amps/torque so you could make up for the lack of a low gear. also 4 gears means 2 in the middle are useless and the gearbox was not designed for the bike. 2 gears could be useful if you spend a lot of time at very low speed like doing enduro or trial, but you don't want to compromise top speed or cruising the biggest advantage is for people who are used to gas bikes and don't want to relearn etc..

motos are a rounding error for the big four. If Suzuki stays in the dirtbike game, Id be surprised. The money is in frame developent and suspension. At this point any modern dirtbike can suit any rider other than those who ride top 100 ama. Basically modern dirtbikes are dead.

there are more advantages to having no clutch on an e-bike. It's not needed. Clutches on ICE make sense but on an e-bike where you can roll on the power you need without having to rev is a major advantage. The only reason I can see a clutch on an e-bike is on a trial bike. Where you need the snap is for bunny hopping from rock to rock or over logs.

@@bluettr250 Modern dirtbikes are not dead, they are overpowered even for the pro riders. They are talking about removing the 250/450 class and replacing it with a 350 4-stroke class. Which is making all the high-power electric dirtbikes obsolete from the competition. That is what happens when the Big 6 controls the AMA and wants to continue with ICE racing as it is a money pit.

@@FarmerFpv they aren’t dead today but long term, dead . When a 250 bike is 10k, dead

No

Oh that's what you ment ...

Ok but two strokes dont like the engine break so you have to pull the clutch in if you wanna own it long

@@Roax- yeah but no1 drives a 2 stroke on the street that is legal they are all 4 strokes

@@Patrick-HDyeah well I do so do at least three others I know ?

Exactly, same with riding in the same gear all the time. You want to shift and use the gears to progressively build up speed and shed it when you come into a corner or turn for ex.

I wanna buy a mini but i cant too -_-

also i think it said 29

No, he said 52%

Bro who cares

@@mr.engineear0987You did. Enough to respond. 🤣

@@twzted_synapse221 I meant I think the screen said 29 miles ik he said 52 percent

Have you got a 250?

it also has the better suspension than surron which makes it def. more appealing to enduro and dirtbike riders

There's a lot of really cool bikes creeping up in the shadows. Surron and the other similar looking bikes have dominated the market for sure, but if you start looking in the corner of the room you'd be surprised what you can find! :)

Freeride isnt any louder

@@liamhky3939 The high-pitched "whirring" from the freeride, seen on electric cycle rider's videos seems to sound significantly louder

its a comparable bike to ktm freeride since this is just a chinese copy of it.

The frame pretty much is a cookie cutter from it. Motor and battery are completely different though. Sub frame might be different too. I like mine a lot which is the admit jet armor with a 70ah battery. Good machine, but not light at all. Heavier than my 450 dirt bike.

​@ElectroBikesusa 2 months later, how are you liking the Admit Jet? I'm thinking about getting one. How heavy is it? I'm thinking about turning one into a supermoto. Think ktm wheels would fit?

@@DirtBikeNoah500 It's in the ranges of 250lbs-265lbs.+ depending on the battery size. It's hefty. It doesn't feel too bad riding it, but moving it around the garage is a pain with the battery in the bike. It would likely be a great supermoto, I just worry about the motor overheating and causing breakdowns because it is just air cooled. It gets super hot, but that's not unexpected I suppose. I kinda wish it has a single speed gear box in some ways and just was strictly controlled by electronic modes. It could be lighter and also avoid the notchy feeling shifting at lower speeds. It's good for the money and well made, but certainly not perfect. I am not certain about KTM wheels fitting on this bike, but it does seem that freeride models should be within that spec. I just can't say for certain. I believe the wheels are standard motocross size except the rear is an 18" enduro sized wheel.

doesn't look like its got much power lol he was holding full throttle with 1 hand on handlebars 🤣

Probably like 40 miles going fast.

Website said 49 miles I believe

I have the Same bike available on my website just has different graphics for $6000 with a 70ah battery

@@RzzGaming1 have you posted any videos on your channel?

@@clintlansdell9505yep but I think you get that 49 miles for high speed. Low speed you get more

Their website has limited info, I went there right away but no pictures with street tires, no max rider load and what seems to me like limited range for a 72V 60Ah power system. I'd love a deeper dive into the full features, close up pics of the welds and fit and finish, etc...

Electric motors dont engine brake 🤣

​@@mesniburek.That is literally how regen braking works though. This bike's electronics may or may not not be set up for it, but you absolutely can engine brake with an electric motor. It just works differently.

When looking at Italian "Beta" Bikes at $5,000 US Dollars more and total pieces of crap this is definitely a vastly superior machine plus no need for gasoline although interesting to see the oil in the gear box. How that system works is important to know because the Beta machine has total shit wiring so once that fails grenades the entire engine. Definitely a full sized bike but as with anything full size have to look at component wear points to determine the quality of the build plus of course the frame itself. People in the mountain biking World go crazy over just that alone and those have zero engine period let alone this type of gearing anyways. I'd still take a OneWheel over any of these let alone a folding e-bike so much more practical and fun to ride but for serious dirt trackers I can see within that niche a demand for this. As with anything I'd be waiting to see what Tesla does though that's why these prices are so low as Tesla is still so dominant and remains the price-setter for everything pure BEV.

Yeah it doesn’t make any sense that he said he wouldn’t want to ride it on the road. Maybe he just means he wouldn’t want to ride it on the road without registering it.

​@@JPTuloexactly this is actually legal and sur Ron is not

I agree, I figured this would literally be his wet dream! Power, size, quality, speed, torque and all in a street legal package to boot! Maybe the gears or foot brake scared him off since he wasn't fully comfortable with them?

@@jackfetterI think it all depends on the area you’re from. The area he lives in, eBikes don’t get hassled like in some other areas. I think his point was just that this is in no way in the real of “e-bike”. You can blast through stop signs, red lights, the laws of the road don’t apply to bicycles the same way they do to motorcycles.

Hybrid motorcycle

@@Bikejax8450basically

It has first gear for more torque

@@capitalironic Obviously, but a bigger sprocket would make it better.

Also the Admit Jet and the Nicot E-fox/Beast

Yeah but this one is street legal...

When you say bigger do you mean powerwise?