This Historian has NEW Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus 

I'm not a scholar on this, but I've heard the argument before - that the fact that Jesus followers were invigorated to preach the gospel AFTER Christ was crucified HAD to be dependent upon the resurrection. Otherwise the disciples would have disbanded and probably hidden for fear of further persecution. Peter et al were transformed and gave the rest of their lives to spreading the good news. Hearing this video really "fleshed out" the argument with the details of what occurred and when it occurred. Thank you so much!

Crazy thing here: every Saturday I go to my favorite coffee shop and dive into the word. I was praying on my way to the coffee shop this morning and asking that the Lord would give me the opportunity to increase my faith. This video popped up on RU-vid, and I’ve been studying this all day. Such amazing stuff. I am on such a spiritual high right now because this is so compelling!!

43:21 ''Behold your Mother'' not ''take care of my mother'' ''receive her'' or else, ''Look at her she *IS* your mother'' straight up and clear as light, thank you Lord Jesus for that gift of Mercy

This was one of the shortest hours of my life. Gary is so engaging, energetic (80 hours a week?? He has four times the energy I have), and deeply knowledgeable. He speaks on the five basic facts for Jesus and the elaborations so often, yet is always so excited about it. I have learned so much from him over the years. May God continue to bless this guy, and for goodness sake, give him a little time off now and then to enjoy the wonders of creation he so often enthusiastically speaks about.

I did a master thesis on the creed of 1 Cor. 15:3-7 because I've been inspired by a chapter Dr. Habermas wrote on that topic ("Tracing Jesus’ Resurrection to Its Earliest Eyewitness Accounts" in God is Good, God is Great). This approach to the New Testament was so refreshing and rarely talked upon in Church that in 2017, I decided to start a doctoral thesis on 1 Cor. 8:6 (another early tradition) to understand more clearly the quick origin of the high Christology of the primitive Church. I'm finishing the thesis this month. I actually stop writting to listen to this video because it's so related. What scholars say about primitive traditions (also called prepauline traditions) is fascinating. Martin Hengel wrote that "more theological developement happened in the first 20 years of Christian history than in the 7 century that followed". Larry Hurtado says it's like a big bang, a rapid and intense production of theological materials in the earliest stage of Christianity. It would have been nice to hear Gary explain the methodology to delineate a primitive tradition (introduction formula, multiple attestations, structure, repetitions, so on) and how we can establish how early it is. It was very interesting to me see his thesis about how Jesus's resurrection was the key factor to bring about the early traditions (or creeds) and how it was also related to Jesus's sayings that was misunderstood during his life. Thanks to both of you !

Thanks for sharing this International Christian Apologetic Historian Treasure, Dr. Gary Habermas!! Dr. Habermas, God bless you, and thank you for your work. I met you briefly at a UCLA Christian apologetic conference or meeting in the early 2000s. You were as pleasant, easy-going, honest, and profound as you appear hear, 20 years later. I was volunteer apologist with Reasons To Believe for over 20 years. If I can volunteer any time or services for your grand project, I would be honored to participate. It is amazing that your courtesy and friendship with atheist scholars, living and dead (this German fellow Kurt L.) seems to have transformed into an open invitation to formalize and collate your studies, and you produce new profound Evidences for the Heart of Christian Theology, the Resurrection of Yeshua/Jesus, in accord with Scriptural prophecy, and confirming our trust with great historic documentation, scholarly reasoning and analyses. How can it be that there have been no other such major contributors to the core work of Gospel research, support, apologetics, history? I suppose God picked the right guy! 8-D

Great Vid -Habermas is a pleasure to hear - even hearing Thessalonians was written 18yrs after Jesus - makes things a lot clearer.

I have had the pleasure of taking several courses with Dr. Habermas at the Ph.D. level at Liberty University. He is amazing! Great teacher and researcher! He's also a good man! He is a great guy and really explains things in exciting ways. Our discussions in classes are stimulating. His work is important and certainly demonstrates the trustworthiness of Scripture, the historicity of the Christian truth claims, and is able to dismantle the challenges leveled against Christianity. Dr. Habermas is someone I tremendously respect. His work is very helpful to Christians. If more Christians would take seriously Scriptures' command that we should be ready to give reasons/answers (apologia) for our faith then they would read and study Dr. Habermas' work. He doesn't just give the evidences, he explains why they are reliable, and uses only the data that the skeptical scholars permit. From that view he answers the critics with their own evidence and they have to admit their refusal to accept where the evidence takes them because of their commitment to skepticism over facts and evidence. Brilliant! I believe his "Minimal Facts" argument is the strongest argument for Christianity ( and all its teachings) that presently exists.

The Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Boom !!! Exactly. Great study. Thanks Gary. Thanks Cameron.

All I can say is....this was amazing!!...my heart was burning as he broke it all down. Thank you so much for this brother's!!

Paul meets Jesus in a most emphatic way! Talk about getting his attention! Some people get hung up on Paul, and I say thank Jesus for Paul! Thank you for the insight on James which I didn’t know. It was time well spent and appreciated!!!

thank you Cameron for having such a distinguish guest and provides tools to ground our faith on sound information.

Gary thank you so much. This helps bring the gospels to life and puts me right there with people trying to come to terms with what just happened after the resurrection. They had no choice but to preach the gospel. Amen

Fantastic exegesis, this has been very encouraging listening to Gary Habermas with such enthusiasm after all these years of loving Jesus. This will take some going over the scriptures to place these subtle connections (so like our heavenly father's style) and put them a repeatable manner. thank you, Cameron, for this pod cast.

Thanks to both of you for your ministry. Outstanding clarification of information.in front of our eyes for 2000 years.

I love the disappointment in Cameron's face when he is asked what he thinks

How important is the Resurrection? Paramount!!! Thank you for your hard work and study!!!

Wow - your guest historical researcher has been doing 80 hour weeks for years, clarifying historical docs and bringing out the truth of Christ's resurrection - very interesting and helpful. Enjoy your podcasts

Most amazing time in the world. Not when computers were invented. Not cellphones. Not going to the moon. But the day the son of God walked the earth. Although most did not know it until later how blessed they were to meet with Him. Wow. Wish I could time travel to then. Would be the first place i would go to. Jesus would probably recognise you immediately and maybe... speak to you. Amazing that the "Us" in Genesis already spoke of Christ and that God is not just one part, but more.

As a rising historian and a Christian, I really need to meet with Dr Habermas.

This is really powerful information! Thank you Dr. Habermas and thank you Cameron for sharing it!

"The person who rejects Christ may choose to say I do not accept him, they may not choose to say there was not enough evidence", Simon Greenleaf.

What a blessing you both were.

Amazing info..... proof after proof ..... i really wish this was like 5 hours long and I would still watch it.... so good

Where’s your evidence that Paul ever existed? Where’s your evidence that Paul “met” Jesus or anyone else?

Dr. Habermas is brilliant. His minimum facts argument is eye opening!

Even more cogent analysis of the earliest sources by G Habermas! I am eagerly awaiting the book(s)!

Amazing, I have never put it altogether like this, but WOW, it totally works!! A Christian forty-five years and Bible College Graduate, yet I don't ever remember these truths being brought together so eloquently; simply Amazing!!!

Excellent interview. Dr. Habermas has done such excellent work in pointing out the truth of the resurrection. This new work/line of argumentation is of the same excellent quality. God bless his work for our Lord.

Never considered these truths in the way it was explained. Thanks.

This is a powerful episode, thank you.

I’m delivering a paper on this topic for my bachelors degree in April. Thanks for the canon fodder dr. Habermas.

When one knows the risen Jesus, it is no longer academic. When one experiences the LORD, it is no longer academic. This is why this evidence for how it all came to be is so, so powerful. Paul and James came to know Jesus as LORD. Hallelujah!

Luke 16 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Habermas is LEGENDARY

“My Lord and My God!”, Thomas said. Then Jesus told him,”You believe because you have seen me. But blessed are those who haven’t seen me and believe anyway.”-John 20: 28 & 29.

Thank you, Cameron and Dr Habermas! Grateful for the work you do! Going to share this on my blog for friends and family… this is incredibly important!

Great work and I’m excited to read your work Dr. Habermas

People do not come back from being dead. The definition of death includes the finality of death. To be dead, means that you are not coming back. Anything else is not death, it's something else.

We have no first hand accounts of any of the apostles...only the Bible. And, logically, you can't use the Bible to prove the Bible. That's called circular logic/reasoning. Trust me, I wish there was more evidence here, but there simply isn't at the moment. In fact, for a vast amount of saints, we don't have any credible accounts, unbiased accounts, or first hand accounts. It is wild when you really look into it. It blew my mind how much Christianity claims so much with so little. It has shaken my faith, sadly.

Just found your channel. Subscribed immediately. Very much got excited learning about the early creeds being shot out of the resurrection cannon. Great visual. New way for my brain to grasp the spread of the "gospel" after the resurrection. Brought to life how this probably occurred and it strengthened my already strong belief in our faith the Jesus is LORD!!! All caps :) Wow

Dr. Habermas had me on the edge of my seat! I love how he unpacked these 5 main points of the new evidence. I could’ve even listened to him even longer.

Love this. I never have a great answer to give people who doubt the resurrection.

Great Great AMAZING. Wow! Shalom blessings

At 35.50ff Habermas says over and over what sounds like 'eedi, death resurrection' 'eedi, death resurrection'. To help those like me who could not hear this clearly it is 'DEITY, Death, Resurrection', ie 'Son of God, Death, Resurrection'. Simple once you get it. It was driving me nuts till I did! Great talk and many thanks to Dr Habermas and Cameron.

Very thought provoking thanks

I do appreciate the works that you do. I understood what you were saying very quickly because I have a very small knowledge and interest on these deep thinking. I loved it and learned new perspective on what I have already believed. Thank you for doing what most Christians could not because of their poor background of history and focused. I will pass this on and pray the Lord will continue bless you with details about his glorious earthly history, and them that hears you. Amen.

I loved the info! It blessed me dearly😊🙏🏼Thank you for the video. God bless you with all things Pertaining to Life and godliness. Shalom 🙏🏼

The Shroud of Turin is evidence enough for me. Love Dr. Habermas' work.

I loved this! Thanks for the program.

When Jesus says he's "coming on the clouds" he is calling himself God because God was described as coming on the clouds in the OT.

Watched the whole video. Great points thanks.

This doesn't sound like evidence of the Resurrection to me. It sounds like evidence that the early Christians believed in the resurrection. Love this interview

Seems like Cameron was looking for a quick bullet point answer. Dr H needed to craft this info in order to present it in a coherent way. Good vid 👍🏻

Good questioning, Cameron. I got the impression that you, like me, eventually gave up on understanding what he was trying to communicate about *homologia*. But you gave it a great shot.

SPEAKING FROM ONE IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS....YOUR STUDIES VERY BENEFICIAL TO TESTIMONIES OF JESUS IS THE CHRIST THANK YOU FROM AN ELDER IN THE CHURCH OF JESUS. CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS

This is so good! I was so captivated the whole hour. I didn’t want it to end! God bless you guys for what you do.

You’ll either be justified or condemned by the works of the cross of Christ, when you stand before a Holy God.

Very interesting. Thank you. Just makes me want to do more extensive digging of my own.

If He was raised from the dead then He has authority over death itself. It is no harder for modern people to accept than it was for the early witnesses. Thomas had to place his finger in the nail scars and his hand into the spear-pierced side to believe.

Hi Cameron, Please make a video about the Smithsonian saying this: " After the death of Jesus of Nazareth, his followers fled. Tradition tells us that James went to Spain" I think they might've missed an important detail between those two pieces of information!

I’m not familiar with you or your channel, but thank you for bringing Dr. Habermas to us and allowing him to talk without lots of interruptions. I really appreciated the power of the truth that Dr. Habermas brought to us - not just intellectually powerful but Spiritually powerful as well. 1 Corinthians 2:14

Wow. That was actually pretty ground breaking.

Dr. Habermas, your points are stunning. Christianity is not an evolutionary development, it's a transformational reality. The difference is significant. The historical power that blasted a solitary life from the backwaters of the eastern Mediterranean to the center-stage of global reality 2000 years later was launched by an uncommon explosion, with no equal in history. The Messianic Gospel arrived full-blown and functioning at Resurrection, not iterated in prominence through religious hi-jinks and creative thinking.

Just amazing! Wonderful! Common sense!! Of course they had a high Christology!! The impartation of the Holy Spirit! They were on fire!!!

Love this. Christology had to have been HIGH to have such an impact. And the resurrection is the BEST explanation. It was eschatology and practical messianic theology that took time to get there.

Thanks gentleman! This was great info! Keep up the awesome content!

There is no new evidence of a resurrection. Only new people rehashing the same scripture. The best time for God to stage a resurrection is now with so many recording devices available.

Thank you LORD

I am taking a Masters level apologetics class on Miracles and Dr. Habermas literally wrote the bookS on this topic. If a christian isn’t aware of the issues that make up the arguments for/against miracles, specifically the resurrection of Jesus, he can get shut down very quickly.

My 1st creed is & was, Jesus Loves Me this i know, for the Bible tells me so… And other, He Lives He Lives Christ Jesus Lives today. Learned these things at & before the age of 5… i am so thankful having all of these other ways to explain, that my early creeds are true, because some say “child’s play”… So thank you for new ways to share & explain… But i know that i know no matter what men may say, He Lives Christ Jesus Lives today. Also He will also return & it getting closer to that time & i think that is why The Good Doctor work 80 hrs around the clock, because he hope it will bring so many & so many more to Christ Jesus & that touches my very soul, So Thank You Sir. May God The Father Bless & Keep You in His Prefect Love & Care, this and more i do pray in Christ a Jesus Amen & Amen📖🎚🙏🏼

YES it is exactly true the “creeds” were oral formulas to remember the message received from a teacher, and that is exactly a widespread mode of pedagogy in that era of Judaisms before the Talmud (Mishna in Hebrew, Gemara in Aramaic, and I’m sure exponents of Judaism would say that’s evidence of the antiquity of the “oral law” over the Aramaic speaking Early Christian Era, but that’s separate to what I’m saying); the Mishna was written-down oral Hebrew material elaborated from Pharisees and their traditions more or less. I think it is VERY likely Paul as Saul heard and new these Apostolic formulas, because they were teachings in a very familiar mode to his traditions. It would to my mind be essential to read his citations of these formulas and creeds as if they were “mishnaic”; look for Hebrew and Aramaic structure to them and see what else might be gleaned. There is Jewish material regarding a pre-existing Messiah etc; some of these concepts were not necessarily so alien to Jews of the time.

I think it is evident in Acts 1:14-35 that High Christology was already being preached by the Apostles. Jesus had promised that the Holy Spirit would come to the Apostles and “ will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. “ (John 14:26) and here we have Peter preaching this on the street immediately after the Holy Spirit came on Pentecost! In this speech he quotes the Psalms as pointing at Jesus as Messiah and Lord ( Lord sitting on the throne of God). That is 40 days after the Resurrection. Acts ends abruptly with Paul’s arrival in Rome which is 60 AD and there is no event after 60AD mentioned. Most scholars believe it was written between 63-70AD, from eye witnesses testimony.

Blessed are those who does not see but believe in him

Gary is one of my favs

Still waiting for the evidence , let me know when you have it thanks

Wow, so good, thank you guys, that was amazing

In all honesty, I was kind of lost throughout most of this, and I don't ordinarily find myself lost with discussions of this sort. I really tried to follow it. I have a very high opinion of Gary Habermas, his work was a huge asset in my initial journey accepting Christ, but this time around, it felt like there was never a solid grounding of a topic from the start that could help the listener to even know what he was talking about. Thanks for having him on Cameron, and thanks for trying to get us some clarity (it was obvious that you were trying, and seemed that perhaps you were also a bit confused as well as to what he was talking about).

hard to sparse out but when its understood - Hallelujah

Habermas has a talent and calling for creating atheists by spectacularly misrepresenting historical evidence. As an atheist, I thank you Gary 👍

I love it thank you!!!

I was hoping this would be something I could share with no -Christians but 45 minutes in I’m ready to tear out my hair. Maybe you could try again to present this where Cameron talks less and Gary has his thoughts organized.

Vary informative, thank you for your time

The bible is all the evidence I need for the ressurection of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

I agree that the resurrection is the most important piece of the gospel. However the catalyst for the canon fire was the day of Pentecost and the Holy Spirit opening there minds to know and remember all that Jesus and said about himself to the Apostles and believers.

After seeing Dr Bart Ehrman's response to this, it's scary how much Dr Habermas, who is from what I understand a Christian historian well versed in this topic (one of the most fundamental topics of Christianity) , can misunderstand or misrepresent about the views of one of his contemporary interlocutors on that topic. After that, how are we supposed to take Dr Habermas seriously on that topic/ on his statements about all the other people involved that are too dead to correct him (Paul, the gospels authors...) ? (Sry for bad English, non-native speaker here)

This is excellent 👍👍 God bless

I really enjoyed this .

I really appreciate what he said ... basically that if the creeds are in these books of the bible then they were created earlier and so the Christian church had already had these doctrines clear .. not needing explanation. But it took forever for Dr. Habermas to get to the point

New Evidence ? What does he have? A photo or old tape recording of Peter preaching ?

Thank you. Will watch again to take it all in.

At first I couldn't quite get my head around what was any different to what we already know mainly because I am just beginning to understand, but now I it get it ,the Gospel exploded into the world, rather than gaining momentum the momentum was right there at the beginning, what makes this clear to me is James sudden conversion on seeing the risen jesus, the brother who had stubornily refused to believe Jesus's divinity during his life on earth. What blows my mind its all there in plain sight as Gary brilliantly explains this

Gary should be everyone grandfather for a day, and teach them this message. He's a great spirit and one of your best interviews "Cam" and Cameron you never fail to put out some amazingly awesome content.

500 eyewitness JESUS taught HIS Apostles for 40 days HE breathed on them THE HOLY SPIRIT HE Promised The POWER JUST 10 days after HIS ASCENSION THE DAY OF PENTECOST 🔥 No Gap from the gospel to Acts all totally accounted for! Everything was written before The Temple dissolved in 70 ad Anything after must be taken with very high discernment as Jesus warning that false teachers and prophets would raise up afterwards!!! This led to Gnosticism and going backwards to Sinai covenant which led to Many diverse vain imaginations of futurism including Roman Catholicism Islam. More recently Millerite’s and white SDA JW’s Mormonism Armstrongism

I don't understand why apologists stress Jesus resurrection so much. In more than 25 years of doing counter-apologetics, I've never seen any Christian make an even slightly reasonable case that anything in the bible "applies to us today". So it doesn't matter if everything in the bible is true. The passing of 2,000 years places the burden of proof squarely on the Christian to show that any of this stuff that was originally intended to inform the contemporaries of the apostles, still "applies to us today". And given how furiously Christians disagree amongst themselves as to what exactly in the bible "applies to us today" (reconstructionsists, dispensationalists, etc) we skeptics are reasonable to conclude that the bible's messages on such things are fatally ambiguous. You cannot reasonably expect anybody to accurately understand fatally ambiguous statements. How could you escape this criticism? Merely insist that all Christians who disagree with your interpretation of the bible are not sincere toward God, since if they had been sincere, God would never have allowed them to be misled? LOL, that's a very prideful thing for an imperfect sinner who doesn't even claim to possess infallible teaching authority. Skeptics do not become accountable to the Christian message until the day some Christian can show not only that it "applies to us today" (given how the NT never expresses or implies intent to apply audience 2,000 years into the future) , but that the meaning of the message is reasonably clear. With all of the Protestants disagreeing with each other so much on what biblical passages mean, it will be a cold day in hell before any Christian "demonstrates" that the basic gospel message is reasonably clear.

When does the first volume of Gary’s magnum opus come out? This is brilliant!

Wow GARY really works hard on this the creeds,thanks I'm a believer.

QUESTIONS: 1. Were the books of the NEW Testament already established before the Council of Nicea? If you think so, then why were any other Councils held? Such as the Council of Carthage and the Council of Constantinople. We don't that much about Theology from, say, 70 AD til about..?...140 AD ? How did Paul become so dominant in the New Testament when he wasn't even "one of the 12"? 2. WHO wrote "the DIDACHE" ? When? Where? 3. Why don't we know who wrote Genesis? The Hindu VEDAS are said to possibly be the oldest religion/scriptures on earth. Why don't we know who wrote them, either? Think of it. The 2 oldest religions and no one knows. Do they? 4. Abraham left the town of UR. He went "to a land that I shall show you" apparently according to God. But-- what was wrong with UR in the first place and what do know about UR? 5. Many people have left strict churches. Jesus said: "for my Yoke is easy and my burden is light". HOW? and what does that mean? The members who quit often felt it was very hard, not easy. But to encourage anyone to go to a hyper-grace church so they can feel less guilt seems like a very BAD answer. Can you clarify any of this? 6. Near-Death experiences. Be suspect of these. The stories, and what people say happened to them, appears to get more varied and wilder by he decade. But there's more. For all the hundreds of testimonies we have, it's odd that when one goes through the "dark "tunnel" and then meets up with a "being of Light" that we have NO ONE who bothered to ASK: 1. Who are YOU? Are you Jesus? (no one asks. The "light" could lie, but still)... 2. Is Jesus "above" you? Who do YOU serve? Do YOU love Jesus? (No one asks). What is your Name? (no one asks). 3. Where are we, in this otherwise dark "tunnel"? Why can't I see any of my Relatives here? 4. If I decide to stay here and not "go back", what happens then? Where will I go from being with you now in this otherwise dark place? If people are judged by the same True God with consistent standards, why do the testimonies keep getting more varied? 5. Why won't Christians more directly engage and confront and disprove the skeptics who write books against the Christian Faith? The Bible wants you to "be ready always" to give an answer for your Faith. It also mentions "able to convince the gain-sayer". But Christian apologists AVOID, instead of disprove. This is embaressing for them and they may say to me: How do you know they haven't? Have you read every apologetics book? No, I haven't. BUT--- tell me then, --WHERE ARE the books that counter-argue, REFUTE or DISPROVE: 1. Bertrand Russel's "Why I Am Not a Christian" ? or-- 2. Dan Barker's book "Losing Faith in Faith"? (i think this book has now been re-named "Godless")..?? 3. Robert M. Price's book: "the Case AGAINST the Case for Christ" . Tell me. Name the books. Instead, what happens is, that is all avoided. The Christians are silent. Then, we are introduced to a "new" apologist. He/she doesn't doesn't show how the skeptic was wrong, either. It's as if they're hoping nobody will notice. Want more proof? Keep reading-- Years ago, JOSH McDowell wrote: "Evidence That Demands a Verdict". Then, Jeffrey Jay Lowder writes against it, and tries to pick it apart. But McDowell didn't (as far as I know) write any book to disprove Lowder. Why Not?? The Audience and public will likely think that Lowder "won" due to avoidance and silence! And more people leave the Church. (Later, it is said McDowell UPDATED his book and dealt with some of this. But it took a long time and I feel "the damage had already been done".) AND THEN....some years later....Lee Strobel arrives on the scene. His books are popular. But Robert M. Price writes: "the Case AGAINST the Case for Christ". Does Strobel write any book showing how Price is wrong? Again, No. And again more folks leave the Church. The whole cycle has now repeated itself. So THEN what happens? Along comes some "new" Apologist J Wallace, writing a new book saying how Christianity is all true, all over again. But does HE disprove Robert M. Price, either? No. Its more avoidance and - again - the whole cycle keeps repeating itself. We still need answers, to those skeptics. If it can be honestly done. Can it be done? Why isn't it? 6. Churches Today -- think of this. There must be at least 75, or more, topics or things that a preacher could preach about, from the Bible! But-- what on earth would churches today possibly do if the book of Romans wasn't in the Bible or Ephesians chapter 2 and harping about: "for by Grace are ye saved".... that may be true, but its nearly all I hear anymore. Does your Church have ANYTHING else to preach on besides yet-another-endless-sermon on: "love" "grace" or "GOD has plan for your Life!" Over and over and over and over and over. Its bad enough that churches are leaving because members have unanswered questions. Now, when they keep hearing the same 2 or 3 messages, they also leave cuz they're bored silly. 7. Where was ADAM buried? and Eve? 8. AFTER the Tower of Babel, people scattered. But earlier, as it was still being built, were there already people in Egypt at that time? If yes, where did they come from? 9. "If all of your questions were answered, would you become a Christian and follow Jesus?" Quite a few people today may say: No. Why ? There could be several reasons: They may not believe in an endless Hell. Christian: "but don't you want to go to Heaven?" Skeptic: "and do what? Sing praises to "the Boss" all day? How boring." Christian: "You sound kinda rebellious" Skeptic: "Not really. I don't want any religion to motivate me by fear, i.e. avoiding Hell, and yet, there is nothing "positive" enough that I would bother to want it. Heaven sounds boring. Can you tell me why getting-closer-to-God is a kewl thing? Again, who will counter-argue the skeptics? Someone will say that you cant write a book for EVERY SINGLE skeptic....but Christians COULD take, say, the THREE Top-selling Skeptic books in the last 5 years, and refute them. But they wont even do that. Have they? Name the books. Why cant they do that much? The public needs answers.

I found this episode puzzling. I was waiting for the "new evidence" mentioned in the title but I didn't hear anything I didn't already know except for this "Gospel to the Hebrews". Is it his packaging of these 5 points into one book that is new?

The most difficult truth the apostles wrestled with, Jesus is God. As monotheistic Jews, it really really takes something super super miraculous to call a fellow human being God. Mind you, they were not Greeks, with Zeus, Artemis, etc.