This hurts my brain... || Arturia FX Collection 2 

That's just a myth. You can run it "wet" as long as you turn it down to "dry" after the session and let it run silent for 30 minutes or so. Just make sure you do this with all your plugins at least once a month.

Always remember to warm up your daw for like 20 minutes before opening any plugins.

But if you run your mix very hot you don’t have to be worried about it at all.

You guys need to upgrade. With windows 95 none of this is necessary

Jheeze don't even suggest that lol

LMAO! For an extra $200 you can have the "Enhanced Progressive Patina" option where vintage rust pigmentation gradually changes over time to a more "warm" lustre.

Waves come to mind for that one !

Something Waves had in mind with their bloody "upgrade plan" :-(

Great idea ! Let escalate it, but keep the credit for it, they will come for you :’j

When you know your products are great, you have nothing to fear! Arturia plugins are on top league, up there with the very best

that music has so nice pokemon/nintendo vibes

Best versions of Sandstorm yet.

Exactly...this dude talks down plugins used by the big names in the industry..😂it’s funny people think he’s relevant 😂

@@ojvic7297 and yet you're here watching his videos

@@iagher I’ve seen a couple and i was waiting for someone to make this comment ..y’all listening to this dude will end up lost 😂

In his defense he's not sure how to pronounce Arturia so that's all I need to know for stopping the video lol...nothing else I wanna know 😁

Rust was a good joke once or twice but for fucks sake shut up about the look of the box and rust and screwheads. and give us your opinion in what it can do or not.

did you liked it?

@@alphashokk7998 Yes, I do. They respected the limitations of the hardware cassettes (they modeled 3 in one plugin) with the OPTION to make use of all the digital advantages. That's something I like. I love using stepped knobs, and if I need to dial it back a bit I CAN switch off the steps. But I hate when developers force me to use what they consider "modern". Stepped controls are a true decision booster. StepLESS controls however always seem to ask you "are you sure? not 0.5 dB more? or less? How's about 0.87?" Then, there's the lack of an input stage. THANK YOU Arturia!!! Wanna know why? When Soundtoys made their Sie-Q, everyone was raving about its saturation when you drove it. That was complete bullshit. The W295b was a very, very clean EQ. It was built according to ARD specifications, the national German Broadcasting. They needed a clean tool that would be reliable, not a colour palette on its own. When I measured my EQs using sine waves the first odd harmonic would peak around -72 dBFS. Of course this can vary due to different max. output levels with different interfaces. That's why that whole -18dbFS reference is actually a funny thing. It's always relative. It never relates to a "real" fixed value in the analog world. Anyway, Arturia set their first odd harmonic at around -64 dbFS at a reference level of -9dBFS (which is the required ref.level according to the German DIN nominal level of +6dBu) This seems to be quite accurate as I measured my EQs with a -18dBFS sine wave. It differs by just 1dB (after subtracting 9dB measurement difference), which is fine considering tolerances. So...thumbs up for Arturia's version. Well done. You see, they respected its clean character, unlike Soundtoys, who made it a "drive machine".

@@costinvaly1 I understand your point but you seem to misunderstand mine; If soundtoys created a unique EQ with lots of attitude and character - fine. They are great at what they do. However to model the W295b, call it Sie-Q to make clear what this is supposed to be, even try to match the look and get the knobs right...and then give it a drive control... is just wrong. If I want a saturator I'll get a saturator. If I want a Siemens Sitral, I'll expect a Sitral. Not a hybrid kind of thing. You wouldn't expect an SSL EQ to have a Pultec-style low end or a Neve 1073 to have a tube stage, so why should a Sitral feature a drive knob? You said you wouldn't remember using its treble band. And that pretty much proves me right. You reach for a saturator, not what the Sitral is famous for.

@@costinvaly1 Listen, I didn't insult Soundtoys, I said they are great at what they do...so wth is your problem? I don't have to like every plugin they make. Looks like I really offended you by not liking their Sie-Q but praising Arturia's EQ...🤔 below a video about Arturia's version. "Karen"..."lousy attitude"... Don't you find that bizarre yourself? 🤦

@@costinvaly1 I just said I don't like their Sie-Q. It's my right to not like any plugin out there. I don't have any emotions for Soundtoys. I really don't understand what's the matter with you. Anyway, lets end this pointless conversation here. Your last comment just showed me that you didn't understand the story behind my posts.

But doesn't gain compensation still makes sense in that case? Because if your parallel signal is not different in loudness from your original signal you can mix it in without getting biased by loudness differences. Or not?

exactly how i feel. It's sad this guy gets so bent out of shape over the aesthetics of a plugin. I personally really like when a plugin looks like the gear its emulating. It really helps when you're in a creative head space to quickly get into the vibe of the effect you are about to use.

Oh man, perfectly said. Fine if you make your point once and focus on "does it sound good?" ... but increasingly is about UI likes / dislikes

Weird that the creatives that work with visual stuff (you know... Like designers, illustrators, video editors etc etc) all work with software that doesn't have weird ass knobs and rust trying to look like the real thing. Guess they don't need the "inspiration". Or maybe they just move with the times. Who knows.

@@desubeats Don't they all use tools that are analogous to the traditional counterpart? We still use paint brushes in Photoshop, we still use digital pens. We still use Swatches, Canvases (with paper types and textures taken from real images), we still try to emulate water colors, acrylics etc. The whole point is that it relates to some real world analogue, which allows the creative to transfer knowledge into a digital space. I haven't said "don't use digital interfaces", I'm just saying skeuomorphic or non-digitally inspired interfaces are not necessarily a bad thing.

@@parboilrice yes, but they don't look like it! The "canvas" doesn't have paper texture etc. You don't actually see a brush when you apply it. Skeuomorphic design isn't *necessarily* a bad thing. But if the ux suffers it is. These hardware units where never designed to be used with a mouse.

From wikipedia: "Sandstorm is an instrumental by Finnish DJ and record producer Darude. It was released as the lead single from his debut studio album Before the Storm. It was initially released in Finland on 26 October 1999 by 16 Inch Records and was later re-released in many other countries in 2000. " ;)

I think the fx collection is great for sound design personally as a producer.

I solo the comp get it right then mix in the dry. Then I'll solo the saturation get it right then blend all 3. I love this on my drums. It's hella cpu heavy tho.

@@kyledege315 Might as well just do it manually with a Chain

I understand both sides growing up using Reason, a DAW drowning in skeuomorphism. I agree that good design can be inspiring and it can (and should) indirectly explain how a device works, what route for example a signal takes through a synth (from oscillator to adsr to filter etc) Great for beginning producers. It does however take up a lot of space which can hinder your productivity. To view a full effects rack in Reason I would need 2 screens to have them all visible at the same time. Ableton Live can show the same amount using maybe 1/8 of one screen. I do wonder if design can have the placebo effect of sounding ""analog"" just by looking like old junk with some screws :P

That's exactly why I hate Melda's UI

It's one of the reasons why Reaper is so good. The very plain, utilitarian visual design that seems to underplay how immensely powerful its features are.

skeuomorphic design can be helpful, but it can also be a hindrance

No screws means better resale value :)

@@KlemenKotar they should have screws with rubber washers to protect from rack rash

Agree.... digital is an amazing space right now.

Which is why every Low Pass Filter should have a T Bar to control the cut-off :)

Demo first.

It could just be useful for workflow if you want to keep your level on that bus when you are adjusting parameters frequently. Once you mix it in if you want to adjust a parameter it would be nice to be able to keep it at the same level instead of having to re-adjust the gain. IDK I still haven't gotten to that part.

Ah, I was thinking automatic gain compensation. Makeup gain is just so it doesn't get too quiet or loud so when you mix it in it's not too quiet for the faders or clipping.

- people who have dared turn a resonance knob to max with headphones on

But then no one would buy these snake oil plugins again.

I like the skeuomorphic stuff like the wood paneling and the whole rack-mount look bc I'll never have a studio full of vintage analog gear, and while these plugins are doing their best to emulate the sound, it's a nice kind of ambience to have the visual cues to go along. You can almost pretend, lol. But I fully agree, usability trumps fake screw holes and shiny encoders, no doubt. I'd rather have a simple, original visual design with the best user experience over the inverse. Hi Fabfilter.

@@Music-tg5is Arturia are so far away from snake oil. lol!

​@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 I literally have Arturia V Collection 8 and Pigments 3 both uninstalled, deactivated and deregistered from my Arturia account (in preparation of reselling them on to other users) to suggest otherwise. Arturia's V Collection are nothing compared to my complete 'u-he' plugin collection paired with Modartt Pianoteq Studio bundle. Throw in some of my other plugins like Dune 3, Phase Plant, Vital and Arturia's Pigments 3 also becomes largely redundant (inferior in both sound quality and performance to my other stuff). So for my purposes, Arturia are superfluous to requirements, and so may as well be snake oil, as they are inferior to everything else I own, more superficial style rather than substance (and that's with only 'some' of my other owned software, that I've mentioned here).

@@Music-tg5is I own all of those plugins. Still don't agree. But whatever floats your boat :D. EDIT: I was specifically referring to their FX collection though - deffo not snake oil.

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I personally disagree *in certain scenarios*. I love that fab filter is the way it is and will go for that 70% of the time, but when im just trying to liven up a sound or a whole mix without thinking about it to much I think its helpful to have some eqs with well tuned fixed frequency bands and curves to keep from overthinking it or mixin with my eyes. Still, there is a point. Like if an eq plugin truly has 20 knobs then yea, that sucks. but 3 bands and a high and low pass with knobs that arent tiny, works for me.

Yeah pretty much, but they all sound different.

the sound matters more lol

Had the exact same thought. Thing is a proper creative beast.

The GUI's look a little oily to me but the sound was always going to be up to Arturia's unbelievable standard I guess lol . But make it USABLE please!

@@kutchutozov haha yeah the rack scratches are a "nice" touch and the rack ears are totally pointless. By I can overlook these cosmetics for the sounds quality of their FX and instruments.

@@nanob0zo Agree but I'm too tight so out of my price range anyway lol.. #bargainhunter

@@kutchutozov Totally agree - i always first buy on sale and also wait for upgrade sales too.

I’ve never heard an Arturia product that I thought sounded Good

My Fabfilter lights don't cast any shadow.

NOTE: The reason I ended up with 11 of 30 was because Arturia sent them as a promo with the _AudioFuse Rev2_ - a consolation prize for paying $600 for that thing. 😑

2021 and still no auto gain

​@@iagher Arturia will never add autogain on their plugins. That company is not the kind of developer who would add a feature that could demistify their plugins appeal. Arturia is almost the definition of all surface no (or very little) substance.

@@Music-tg5is wrong. Their synth and instrument emulations from v collection sound sick. Also their hardware synths like the polybrute are absolutely insane

@@Music-tg5is Very little substance? Their Arturia synth collection is regularly used in modern Pop production.

​@@templarexemplar35 I own V Collection 8 and Pigments 3 and never use them. I prefer instead other developer's plugins like U-He's Diva/Repros/Hive/Zebra, Modartt's PianoTeq, Synapse Audio's Dune 3, Kilohearts' Phase Plant, Vital, Spire, etc. Also, Arturia's chosen DRM (Arturia Software Centre) makes their plugins far slower to both scan and load than the other synths from their competition that I mentioned. Arturia's stuff seems 'sluggish' by comparison.

Fuck scrollwheels. Make better music.

I would say that the important point of simulating analog gear is how it sounds and the interface should be streamlined for using a mouse cursor instead of your hands to physically turn knobs and flip switches. It's not hard to have stepped intervals when dragging the EQ curve, just think of moving audio clips with snap-to-grid enabled vs disabled. You can drag with the mouse just fine in both cases. Your mouse cursor movement doesn't change, the curve nodes would simply not move until you dragged far enough to reach the next step then it would "snap" to the next position. So you can have it behave just like the hardware (stepped) and have it convenient to control with a mouse cursor. Best of both worlds! 🙂

​@@Tekkerue the stepping is the minor of the problems. The fact that old eq's do not sweep linearly across frequencies, is what would make the controls wonky and weird. This hardware was not designed around a virtual interface, with a vector2 linear control in mind. It would be like driving a bike with a steering wheel that has to turn 640 degrees to steer the wheel 30 degrees, and 180 degrees to steer 20 degrees. An interface like that, would be hated way more, then not having it at all. But yes, the sound is important, but 1 to 1 control with the original hardware, is also important for many reasons, and it is part of how it sounds. Take an analog synth like the Jupiter 8000, what give it its sound is its features and limitations. If you completely redesign that, it is not a JP8000 simulation/emulation anymore. And any knowledge you have or what history you can find on the internet, of the original hardware, is no longer valid.

@@noxlupi1 But it doesn't matter where the steps are, you just drag the mouse continuously and when the next step is encountered the node snaps to the next point. Also, the "Stepped Controls" button at the bottom disables the stepped behavior and it has continuous values (just like FabFilter). It really makes no sense to not have the curve controls in this case. And I'm not saying you have to redesign it because the stepped points would be exactly the same. I'm saying make the interface easier to use with a mouse. Curve controls are simply easier/faster as you can adjust both frequency and gain at the same time with one motion (and Q with the mousewheel). If you want to get real fancy, when you grab a node to drag it, all of the available snap points for that control could show up on the display as small dots in the background so you know where you can drag it to. When you release the node, the dots go away. There are very simple ways to utilize the advantages of digital without compromising the original hardware. It's fine to replicate analog gear, but it is better when they also utilize the advantages that digital has to offer (like automatic gain compensation as another example).

@@Tekkerue i hear what you are saying, but you would not get the experience that you expect. The freq and amplitude steps are not spread out logarithmically, as you would expect with fabfilter. Also the filters are not designed to smoothly sweep between frequency steps, they just dont work that way, and that algorithm makes it possible to create very musical and transparent filters. And a stepped curve control would not make it easier, just really weird. If you want to control band and amplitude at the same time, you could just make it so, when you turn the knob, and make it possible to control the boost and q with horizontal movement and scroll wheel. It exists on other plugins out there. There are plenty of digital advantages, far more important than clicking a curve: Automation, you can have as many as you want, no wires, heat, electricity, maintenance and cleaning 😂 if I need to be fast and surgical in EQ, I would use fabfilter anyway. But if I needed to subtly balance a mix, I might use something like this.

@@noxlupi1 sure I would get the experience I expect. Here, I made a cheesy Paint doodle to illustrate what I'm talking about. LOL😅 imgur.com/lPcWdPa When you grab the midrange node the little dots could be displayed in the background to show all the available values for that control. Then the node will snap to those points as you move around. That's very simple.

What happens if you uninstall and reinstall? Does it remember your previous rust state or does it start with a fresh coat of paint? How would it detect the humility level? This would affect the rust rate. Should there be an option to repaint it and remove the rust? These things are not "trivial". Much thought must go into this groundbreaking feature as this is truly the bridge between the digital world and the analog world. 🤔😂

So you're saying the plugins actually lose quality over time ?

the spring is my favorite too.

Darude sandstorm

Jk its: veras song by victor Lundberg

@@Rami-bi9xj thank You 🙏

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