@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI Starship prototypes have flown. The superheavy booster has static fired. Crew Dragon is one of three human rated orbital spacecraft in the world. Falcon 9 is the most sucessful launch system in the world. The only reusable orbital first stage. There is a tunnel system growing under Las Vegas. Tesla is the first, possibly still the only, electric car company in the worls operating at a profit. Twitter is removing its biased sensorship. The last New Shepherd launch failed. Anazon employees still have to relieve themselves in bottles at their workstations. Where are the engines for ULA's Vulcan? If Blue Origin had delivered as promised Vulcan would be flying. Where is New Glenn? It was promised years ago. Who underdelivers?
@@lilililililililililililili430 BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA they're only a decade behind on the engines let alone any flight hardware for new glenn. saying bezo over delivers is a joke right?
@@thomasackerman5399 please do explain how that disproves my point. BO has technically been around longer than SpaceX but where BO has only managed to build a glorified carnival ride. spaceX is a world leader in the industry.
Competition isn't just good for the new space race, its essential. Mr.Bezos could have just sat on his cash and no one would have thought less of him. I am genuinely thankful he has elected to contribute in this way. I wish Blue Origin nothing but success in the coming years and decades. All I can ask for is more, more, more!
@@illwind56 Two test engines have finally been delivered, massively late, and not even at the same time. The trajectory is atrocious, and many engines were supposed to have been delivered by now. The question remains.
@@matthewpeck4016 Oh no! Matthew is angry for others who didn't get their engines on time! How many did you buy Matthew? BO didnt make Matthews expectation!
The BE-4 has turned out to be an excellent engine. As I am typing this Vulcan Centaur has completed it's maiden flight successfully using these engines with no major issues relating to the BE-4 at all. Good job to everyone at Blue Origin the BE-4 has done the job as expected. 😎👍
Woulda been nice to get some isp and twr numbers. Not like we've been spoiled by SpaceX/Rocketlab in that regard, the old guard like Rocketdyne and Energomash also give those figures.
SpaceX Raptor will be more efficient since its full flow staged combustion cycle. Its twin turbines can also run cooler (and with less wear) without sacrificing efficiency. Suprised Blue origin hasn't tried to do full flow staged engine.
@@5893MrWilson They are different for gods sakes. Whatever efficiency Raptor has is in the low single digit percetages if not lower Just because Raptor CAN run cooler doesnt mean it WILL run cooler. Raptor is smaller and uses more effort to get to the same place where the BE-4 is designed to run easy
@@purona2500 the first thing to break on most rocket engines is the turbine inside the turbo pumps. Because full flow runs one turbine oxi rich and the other fuel rich and combines them at the end there is no effeciency cost to running them richer and therefore cooler. Cooler turbines means lower likelihood of cracking and engine failure. There are other aspects of rocket engines but the full flow turbo configuration seems like a no brainer to me. Maybe it's harder to engineer but you get both higher effeciency and higher reliability
i think the merlin is the most reliable engine or the rs 25. this engine will have to do over 300 flawless launches/fireing to even get close. good luck to them.
An engineer who knows how to sell. I think that being able to speak to managers who might not be as technically savvy as an engineer is one important aspect, but being able to understand the technology well enough to speak to the engineers who work at your customers company is equally if not more important in order to gain credibility with them, and to have the client's engineers explain and discuss in further detail with other key members at their company...
I "hear the rumble and feel the energy" multiples times pretty much every day of the tests SpaceX run 17 miles away from my house in Central Texas. Muliple tests, almost every day, on multiple engine families. That's production. What's holding BO back?
@@dmurray2978 I'd rather call it good aerospace engineering doing things right the first time. You are not within the aerospace busines, are you? SpaceX fans normally are not.
@@blameyourself4489 no, that's traditional aerospace: failure-avoidance resulting in blown budgets, blown time-frames, and underperforming products. SpaceX are failure-embracers, and are creating innovative products at a pace the traditional industry can't dream of.
@@matthewpeck4016 They're still years behind schedule. No one's immune to it and word has it there's increasing problems with Starship and Raptor 2, which is why the "FAA Conspiracy" shyte is being pushed by the SpaceX fans.
@@markhorton3994 That's not true. The core hasn't been ready until about six months ago, at the earliest. The Centaur V only just got delivered a couple months ago (the testing for it finished up about the same time), and the interstage also only got delivered last month. Peregrine is still in final testing and may not be ready by the end of March, like they need it to be.
@@sunlaser6587 Yes. You obviously never followed the extreme testing done on the per-qualification and qualification engines. One engine, PQE-900 was started 36 times and accumulated over 5000 seconds of firing time on the stands.
that engine is 4 years late Bezos has been doing sub orbital joyrides and this engine was supposed to be in Decatur two years ago. ULA is threatening to cancel their contract just like when they canceled Project Omega. If that engine is not in Decatur by the end of the year or the 14th of January, the deal is off, and ULA and NASA will have to find another contractor for Starliner. Blue Origin needs to deliver Jeff Bezos has cut too many corners and is years behind Elon, NASA, The Russians, and ULA. ULA needs that engine if they are going to launch Starliner and Dreamchaser it supplies the power for the Vulcan first stage and that rocket is going nowhere unless Bezos delivers instead of giving joyrides on his Shepherd spacecraft. Joyrides do not pay the bills! NASA will cancel his contracts and FAA will pull his license in January if that engine is not in Decatur Alabama at Marshal Space Center. The Vulcan needs it engines Atlas has one flight to go, and we need Blue Origin to deliver or Astro Sunny will never make it to space and will have to ask Elon for a ride. We will not let that happen. Blue Origin GET THAT ENGINE TO DECATUR NOW! I'm only going to say this once no more joyrides you deliver that engine.
@@geomodelrailroader New Shepard isn't, like, stealing BE4 engines. And rides aboard it *do* help pay the bills. ULA has their first delivery already lol.
They have been doing test fires of these engines (currently the 3, I believe) near where I live - to make sure the stand can handle the 4 engine. I don't think this video will ever be able to depict how powerful and loud these engines are. It's incredible. I'm at least a couple of miles away and can feel it in my chest when I'm outside. I love it.
That’s nice and all but you’re late space X Knew all about the problems and issues that a oxygen/methane engine brings to the table they are 100 steps ahead of you guys this is nothing impressive , besides SpaceX pumps out I think it was 7 Raptor 2 engines a week and how many do you guys produce like 1 or 2 in how long?
@@matthewpeck4016 I'll believe it when I see it. It's not that I don't think it's technically viable, I just don't have much faith in Boeing/Lockheed signing off on the dev costs. I think Blue will figure out landing New Glenn pretty quickly though, and it uses 7 engines to Vulcan's 2, so *most* BE-4s will still end up being reused.
If SpaceX didn't exist, Blue Orgin would be the darling of the space community. Re-used sub orbital rocket, new Rockets, new engines, moon lander... But SpaceX does exist... Come on BO you guys have some cool shit, looking forward to it, Go Team Space!!!
SpaceX is programmed for failure. What they do now is nothing special and is done since decades, more the USA paying a hell lot of money for it, because they don't want to pay Russia. But the Mars plans are just ridiculous. Maybe in some decades, maybe earlier, depending on how AI and alike developes plus robotics, but what Space X is promising is a complete farce.
Hope for success, plan and engineer for everything else, learn from what goes wrong and build better. Hoping Blue Origin has done a lot of this with BE-4 and New Glenn, both for the opportunities they represent, and the competition being spurred on and bringing the costs of spaceflight down to where much smaller budgeted customers can make use of the future possibilities.
It's not really copying SpaceX. The idea of a liquid methane powered rocket has been bouncing around since the 60s and 70s, with the first large one being built in 2007 by XCOR, about 9 years before the Raptor.
@@andie_pants seems to be a whole lot easy for spaceX. BO has been around longer yet only operates a glorified carnival ride whereas spaceX is a world leader in the industry.
@@markhorton3994 Not true at all. The Centaur V was only finished testing and qualified a couple months ago and the flight stage delivered to the factory to be shipped with the core stage less than a month ago.
@@Mister_Durden Everything about Vulcan is designed around LNG- LOX, fueling equipment, valves seals, size of tanks even the control programs are optimized for that fuel and oxidizer. Raptors use Methane-LOX similar but not the same. Changing to Raptors would require re-doing years of design work and starting manufacturing over. Not practical.
I want blue origin to speed up for a very specific reason. It's not about having any preference between musk and besos. It's about being tired being surrounded by people who think only musk wants to send 10000 satellites in LEO. Elon was just the first one ready to start. Jeff also wants to do it, and also started already, but everyone accuses Elon because ... Only Elon communicates about it, and he is the only one actually sending 240+ sats per month. People don't understand that Jeff has exactly the same intentions, and *will* do the same when he is ready.
@@paulsto6516 some say that blue origins rocket may be ready before starship. It may not suffice ... Elon beated concurrent for ISS, the moon, and communication constellation ... For good or for bad :/ I want to see concurrent coming around.
New Glenn can't be compared to the starship. It's competing with the f9 and falcon heavy. (Even the falcon heavy can carry about 20,000 more kgs to leo)
@@JigilJigil It's also competing with the falcon heavy, which can carry 60,000 kg to Leo. Starship can carry upwards of 100kg to Leo, more than double the capacity of new glenn.
