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This is CRAZY & NOTHING like it!! 2023 Imagine 25BHE Travel Trailer by Grand Design RV 

Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV
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NEW MODEL!! Grand Design Imagine XLS 25BHE Travel Trailer
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I've NEVER Seen something like this before!! Grand Design has once again come out with an extremely original model offering a true private quad-bunkhouse complete with rear cargo loading door UNDER 30 FEET in total length!! This model also offers surpringly good living, kitchen, & seating space with a crafty front murphy bed design, plenty of seating, and camp-side window coverage!
Weights & Measures:
Height 10' 10"
Length 29' 11"
Width 8'
Ceiling 6'6"
Hitch 823
Empty 6,356
Cargo 1,039
Max 7,395
Fresh 43
Grey 45
Black 37
Bed 60x80"
2 Bunks 36x70"
Other 2 30x70"
Shower 27x36"
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00:00 RV Overview
02:18 Stepping Inside
06:22 Bathroom
09:05 Bunkhouse
08:48 Details & Storage
12:08 Road Mode
14:31 Exterior
21:00 Roof
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@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum Год назад
Josh, thanks for bringing us this content. I love what grand design is doing here. I love that they’re trying to create opportunities for families with smaller vehicles. The hitch weight is too much for me personally but I bet this is going to be really popular among larger SUVs and half ton trucks.
@commonsenseguy8189
@commonsenseguy8189 Год назад
FINALLY!!! Thank You... I am making this the best couples camper for full timers. I plan on removing the two smaller bunks on the kitchen side and replacing with a residential stackable LG Thin IQ direct drive washer/dryer near the sliding door, and desk / office space next to it. I would still keep the larger two bunks for extra sleeping during travel so as to not have to retract the slide. The 1/2 ton tow vehicle will either be the F150 Hybrid with 7.2 kw on board 30 amp bed outlet that uses the trucks fuel tank and inverter generator, or if the Ram REV XR ever goes on sale in 2025/6... Before seeing this model, I was set on the Jayco Feather 21MML as it is the same floorplan and you can use the bed with slide in... but its only 26' and no bunks for extra storage or laundry area... I was looking into removing its pantry and one dinette bench to make space for the stackable residential washer dryer, but found the entry door is only 24" wide...Geez... I would have to disassemble the washer/dryer and reassemble inside... just a lot of work...
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
My pleasure! Took me long enough to finally get my hands on one!
@pennylynch4471
@pennylynch4471 Год назад
2023 is being a very interesting market with all these new floor plans and the amenities the trailers have. The water controls would be better in the kitchen. 1st, that's where you'll need hot water the most, and it stops a kid from messing with it behind closed doors. And speaking of the kitchen, this is a good one. Even with the larger stove you still have a little counter space. I love that the bunk room has windows on the sides and the rear. I can't remember if it has a fan, but even not it will still give nice air flow. (although with young boys a fan would be a +!) It's nice that it's under 30', it sure doesn't seem like it. Until you get to the Murphy bed. But a small discomfort for as much + stuff it has. A back cargo door is a big + too.
@32johnw
@32johnw 9 месяцев назад
That slide stopping the Murphy bed is a deal breaker. Need sleeping options for the quick stop over.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 9 месяцев назад
I get it. Necessary to keep the length under 30ft but if it doesn’t work.. it doesn’t work
@skykeg4978
@skykeg4978 Год назад
Wow!!!!! I really like this one a lot. There are so many positive features. This floor plan is incredibly versatile and if I wasn`t so happy with the type I have, I would zero in on this one.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
TY for watching!
@nascardeano
@nascardeano Год назад
With all the compact stuff it reminds me of a glorified glamping tent..lol..If a family just wants a place to sleep then this camper is great
@COMMANDER-ONE
@COMMANDER-ONE Год назад
Wow, grand design just knows how to build a nice camper! :) Thank you for all your hard work! I speak for myself, but I believe all your viewers as well, we appreciate you!!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I appreciate your daily visits and positivity so much :)
@FloridaDad
@FloridaDad 10 месяцев назад
We have 4 kids and tow with a Navigator L, so this is exactly what we need! It may be a little on the heavy side, but technically it's 1200lbs less than what we're rated at (8600lbs), so it should be fine. I know the camping groups on FB warn against towing on the higher end, so I wish we could test before buying. Great review as always!
@stevez340
@stevez340 Год назад
Love those huge drawers in the bunkroom with the quality drawer slides👍
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
👍🏻
@spencerdaines8847
@spencerdaines8847 Год назад
Thanks for finally reviewing! We love this and are planning on getting one
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
My pleasure! I hope you love it :)
@spencerdaines8847
@spencerdaines8847 10 месяцев назад
We bought one and love it so far! But I was shocked to learn that GD is already discontinuing this after only 1 model year. I don’t get it!
@SinisterMD
@SinisterMD Год назад
That looks like a great option for having several kids. Would like for the bedroom to be more private up front but with privacy comes length so I think a good compromise.
@monzon529
@monzon529 Год назад
This is very nice i love to seeing it with quad bunks
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Thank you for watching. Hope you enjoy it.
@lindasocwell9149
@lindasocwell9149 Год назад
Love this!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
She's a fun kind of different!
@jordanh4127
@jordanh4127 Год назад
Been eye balling this floor plan for almost 1 year now. I love it! We have 5 kids and this would be perfect. Only issue is a truck only fits 6.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
glad to finally get some footage of her!
@stevez340
@stevez340 Год назад
Absolutely amazing to see a manufacturer listen to their customers and give them multiple comfortable seating areas👍the decades old uncomfortable dinette only floorplan can only be justified by claiming that we all want to be outside anyway even when it’s raining😂
@ctsnider88
@ctsnider88 Год назад
This unit is almost amazing. The bathroom is a cause for pause. I am a max solar person also. Thanks Nerd
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
My pleasure!
@ArmyHulk
@ArmyHulk Год назад
This is the exact model I've been looking for and needed. Sold!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I hope you enjoy the footage
@Kristian_Saile
@Kristian_Saile Год назад
I have come to learn through various campers that private bedrooms are never private enough😂, so I don’t think that’s a huge concern. This is a pretty brilliant layout, even Keith decent pantry space, packs a lot fur being sub 30!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
😂
@briancurtis8418
@briancurtis8418 Год назад
For the hitch weight, you will more than likely need a 3/4 ton if you load the pass through and bring your kids in the truck too, so they might as well have given the extra 3 feet and made a better front bedroom or fold down the bed with slide closed.
@chadi7173
@chadi7173 Год назад
Thinking the same. Needs a master bedroom AND a bunkroom AND a tv at proper viewing angle, and take my money.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Fair. TY
@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum Год назад
but then it would be more than 30 feet. if I had a current model year Ford Expedition Max or a Toyota Land Crusier this would be perfect for our family of five. Between payload and length both SUVs could haul this. What I can't safely haul with those are what you guys are describing.
@commonsenseguy8189
@commonsenseguy8189 Год назад
@@chadi7173 The TV mount can easily be replaced for a multi swing mount from Amazon... One that lowers as well as extends out and left/right is what I would use.
@shariR14
@shariR14 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Josh it's nice
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 9 месяцев назад
Glad you like it
@markramirez8480
@markramirez8480 Год назад
Bought one last month. It is an absolutely amazing and well designed travel trailer. I’m able to tow it with my 22 Chevy Silverado 3.0L DuraMax with no issues.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Awesome! TY for sharing. I always like hearing towing input
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
are you still loving it? we are very seriously considering it but bummed GD doesn't make it anymore
@jeffreyfederico9931
@jeffreyfederico9931 Год назад
My future caper I love this setup
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Awesome! Hope you enjoyed our video :)
@Loveinlife1980
@Loveinlife1980 Год назад
Absolutely love this layout under 30 feet! However, the hitch weight is a deal killer
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
It is a bit hefty that way for sure
@jonnantau9354
@jonnantau9354 Год назад
Great floor plan.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Thx Jon :)
@justinprince9507
@justinprince9507 Год назад
Agreed Josh….this could be one of those first that a lot of others duplicate. Only other bunkhouse I know that is close to that length is the NT 24dbs and that’s 30’ 11” and only has one set of double bunks. Definitely a killer living and entertainment area.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
yeah private bunks under 30ft is pretty crazy cool
@danabump8200
@danabump8200 Год назад
I really like this one !!! 😊
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Glad you like it!
@threeftr3349
@threeftr3349 Год назад
👍 Very nice!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
TY
@JandAReview1
@JandAReview1 Год назад
Smoking Hot!! We love to see the door at the back for loading stuff! Thanks Josh!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
My pleasure
@mynameisnotbubby
@mynameisnotbubby Год назад
Hey Josh i love your enthusiasm ! You crack me up! This layout is awesome! My only wish is if the could change the steps to solid type that flip up. I just worry about 7 people running in and out those current steps won't last. Thanks for all the hard work!!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Staple steps could be added onto this if you want it
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
agreed, not sure why it doesn't have the solid steps
@carltuckerson7718
@carltuckerson7718 Год назад
If I didn't get snipped last week, we'd've needed one of these double decker bunkhouses. These Grand Designs are so cool. And we could cram our bikes through that mini back door.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
🤣
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
✂✂
@bryana1942
@bryana1942 Год назад
Very cool. I don't need a quad bunk, would rather have double bunks, but not sure how that would work with the cargo door. Btu I love the seating in the living room. That's some awesome seating for under 30'!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Yeah she's a weird one but I like it!
@royflores4766
@royflores4766 Год назад
Nice Unicorn Uncle J! Woof!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
TY TY
@taconoc1180
@taconoc1180 Год назад
I was excited until I saw the hitch weight. That isnt even 1/2 towable IMO. Most 1/2 tons have around 1500lbs of payload. At 900lbs with hitch and propane, that doesnt even leave enough room for 4 normal humans much less any extra cargo.
@leveragecomics5067
@leveragecomics5067 10 месяцев назад
Would a Toyota tundra word wit this
@taconoc1180
@taconoc1180 10 месяцев назад
@@leveragecomics5067 I'm not sure the payload of a Tundra. Sorry.
@AdamLock3
@AdamLock3 7 месяцев назад
@@leveragecomics5067probably not. Tundra payload is one of the lowest of 1/2 tons. Around 1,550 pounds
@FloridaDad
@FloridaDad 9 месяцев назад
I just bought this on Friday, really thanks to this video as I didn't know that it existed. It's really great and a big improvement over our Winnebago Micro Minnie 2306!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching though this model sadly been retired already :(
@FloridaDad
@FloridaDad 8 месяцев назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd Wow, really?!? Yay, resale value? lol The issue that I have and that others may have had is that the tongue weight is right at what my Navigator can handle, and honestly I'm sure that I'm over. The Grand Design Facebook groups roasted me for even considering it. So this trailer was created for a family of 6, but not a tow vehicle that can carry all 6 of us. :\
@rosemarydoran9907
@rosemarydoran9907 Год назад
Great for a family or an outdoor person/couple with kayaks and bikes. Please add power towers in the kitchen for easier/safer cooking with appliances.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Smart. Ty
@InTheMoodForBudgeting
@InTheMoodForBudgeting 8 месяцев назад
I really love this layout... Not sure my truck should pull this well though... unless we took out two of the bunks in the back. Not sure how much of a difference that would make. Thanks for this video!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 8 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@diverm2371
@diverm2371 Год назад
Nice design, Josh. Now knock 5 feet off And make it a couples camper.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
You mean this one? m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e7DEbtbxKvQ.html
@charwilliams8280
@charwilliams8280 5 месяцев назад
Wish they had at least 2 kitchen drawers. Not a fan of the wasted counter space. But it will do.
@OrngRubberDucky
@OrngRubberDucky Год назад
Thoughts come to mind: 1) Why wouldn't they build out/ extend the kitchen cabinets so you don't get a toe stubber? (the sink overhangs). 2) I could see the sleep areas swapped. IE the big bed in the private back and they could put bunks in the front (like models that don't seem to be available anymore, haha. They had rear king slide outs. Jayco/Forest River I believe) 3) Would you really be able to get a kayak in the rear with the slide closed and the kitchen taking up so much of the door? Fun fact that helicopter is a B.A.F: 'Big Ass Fan', we spec'd them for work.
@fasteddie617
@fasteddie617 11 месяцев назад
Super cool floor plan Josh! Tough on the ol' payload though.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 месяцев назад
Yeah…
@gaemlinsidoharthi
@gaemlinsidoharthi Год назад
11:03 With so many beds in there, if you have to lie on the dinette bed, you probably have so many people around that you’re not going to sleep anyway because of all the snoring and toilet trips. Probably comfortable enough for a night or two though.
@EbonKim
@EbonKim Год назад
Definitely something my family would consider. Would love one without the bottom bunks and height-adjustable top bunks. Would basically make it a toy hauler, then, though. 😅
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Yeah but... that's a cool idea..
@johnminichielli8957
@johnminichielli8957 Год назад
That would make a great extended couples camper. I would turn the bunkhouse into a walk-in closet by adding clothes hanging racks on each side and I'd have the added benefit of being able to store my bicycles while traveling.
@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum Год назад
Wouldn't a toy hauler be better starting point? 🤔
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
It’s interesting how many folks have looked at this one and seen opportunities for a couples models
@charwilliams8280
@charwilliams8280 5 месяцев назад
Josh, I love your content and style I have watched you for a few years and there have been some fantastic units, but this one struck me differently. I will be a single traveler who needs room for a few occasional guests. I have been looking for a TH, nothing quite fit. But this one seems to check the boxes. I'm going to see if I can find one close by to visit. If not, I will travel. And I want to see if I'd be able to get you some kind of recognition and/or compensation. I think I've found my new home. Thank you again!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 5 месяцев назад
Wow ty for all the kind words! I would mention this model was quickly retired only about a year after it was released so finding one may prove difficult
@jonathanverda5120
@jonathanverda5120 Год назад
Love this trail. Recently sold my Image XLS 23 BHE. It also had a kitchen slide. We had real issues with the pump under the sink meant to help force the water against gravity to the grey tank. Almost every trip out the pump would stop working and flood the kitchen. We replaced the unit and it still was an issue so we sold it. I am hoping there have been improvements since our 2020. This is Grand Design so I am guessing there are improvements.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I've heard goofy stuff about that sink pump thing from several people. I don't know if this RV uses the same thing or if that's unique only to 23BHE
@jonathanverda5120
@jonathanverda5120 Год назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd in your video I caught a quick glance of it under the sink. I could see the white box and hose.
@NickCharles
@NickCharles 10 месяцев назад
I really, really like this floorplan. Not for the four bunks, but because I can likely rip one side of those bunks out and throw an office in the back, while still having sleeping space for guests/kids, as well as plenty of seating space in the main living area thanks to the folding bed. This to me looks like an amazingly versatile space for multi-function use. I just wish it had an appropriate amount of cargo capacity given it supposedly sleeps 8. 1,000 lbs is just not even close to being enough. They need to beef up those axles and i-beams, and whatever else they need to make this usable for a family. Bump it up to the full Imagine line if necessary - half tons aren't going to be able to carry all the people with the trailer regardless, so it's silly to restrict the GVWR
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 месяцев назад
Completely agree on the cargo. I think this model might already be retired. I wonder if it would’ve done better if it had a little more capacity
@NickCharles
@NickCharles 10 месяцев назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd such a shame. Hopefully they give it another try with a proper cargo capacity some day.
@tamararamsey5447
@tamararamsey5447 Год назад
Oh, to have an office in the bunk room!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
You're not the first to suggest it
@damonyeary
@damonyeary Год назад
Josh, how hard would it be to remove the right-side bunks? Could put a desk for home school and maybe more storage.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I’m not sure which direction you mean by right but generally speaking, it shouldn’t be extremely difficult
@astrodb4487
@astrodb4487 Год назад
I like the layout. I love that the bunks are in a "room" Love the rear cargo door. Big fans should be standard. Cargo weight is beyond lame. Sleeps 8 but only 1100 pounds? Tanks are small as well. Challenging for even a weekend.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Fair points. TY !
@awhsum1
@awhsum1 Год назад
I would like to see something to hide the queen bed when not in use. Another possibility would be to have the bottom two bunks fold up or be removable for travel storage if you may not need all four beds. Overall a great idea and concept.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Ty!
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
i agree i love how Ember and a few other manufacturers actually hide the top of the murphy bed when up. not sure why everyone doesn't do that!
@nataliejobecker9247
@nataliejobecker9247 Год назад
My first thought is that with the slide closed you can't fit in kayaks. I would love the option of no campside bunk and in its place a full outside camp kitchen. On the other bunk side, I would like a desk option. We are active empty nesters with no kids traveling with us.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
A few others mentioned something similar
@miragehailstorm5381
@miragehailstorm5381 11 месяцев назад
We love this camper and its at the top of our list (And your walk thrus are the best on youtube!) but no one mentions the bunk weight limits in any of the videos we've watched. I've searched the online manuals and websites with no luck. The only thing I see is on customer forums where owners answer other owners (meaning the info isn't necessarily reliable).
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 месяцев назад
I try to find bunk rating stickers in the units and announce if I see them
@donchaput8278
@donchaput8278 Год назад
Another great win by Grand Design. This sure nails it on bringing all the kids in a small package. As forward as they are, I really hope they start making flex bunk areas. I like the use of space with the people it handles. Lol, 2023 and we still don't have everything with USB-C. Glad grand design is transitioning over. When I see a camper with all USB-A plugs it feels really dated already.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I see the industry slowly starting to change over
@sewistnotsewer
@sewistnotsewer Год назад
I was thinking how great that bunkhouse would be if one side could be a desk or couch.
@slamboy66
@slamboy66 Год назад
That trailer needs 5k axles . ⚖⚖⚖
@MsYalford
@MsYalford Год назад
Josh,instead of the Murphy bed,can a trifold sofa be put there instead.. that would allow for the bed to be accessible since it pushed up against the front wall. Also ,does this come with auto level. ? And can you add the swing arm on the back hitch to put the grill on instead of having it in front of the drawer?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
No swaption for that as it turns out
@Grim-Wolf
@Grim-Wolf Год назад
2023 Coachmen RV Apex Ultra-Lite 243FKS. Thoughts and review soon?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I’ve been trying to get a hold of one for a while. It looks like a good lightweight budget friendly option for that kind of floor plan.
@jasonclark3724
@jasonclark3724 Год назад
Really wanting to hear anyone's experience with "Primetime Tracer 25BHS". Looking forward to hearing from you too crazy Josh. What is your opinion? Going to look at one tomorrow. Might come back with it. Love to hear back soon.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I’ve never been in that one - yet anyway
@jasonclark3724
@jasonclark3724 Год назад
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV would love to see you do a video on it eventually. We definitely value your opinion. Thanks for everything you do.
@situationaladventures
@situationaladventures Год назад
Interesting floor plan! Really want to see what their Momentum 22 MAV looks like but no vids on it anywhere! Only see 27 MAV vids so far.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I JUST got vids on both but have a backlog of stuff to get out. Give me some time. MAV vids coming soon!
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs Год назад
Just a thought ... ditch the Murphy bed for a fixed U dinette, and then in the bunknroom, lose the 2 lower bunks for an east/west master bed, and then leave the foldable upper bunks in place for children ... 🤔🤔
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs Год назад
It would be super cool to also have a legit slide out camp kitchen with all the features including domestic fridge/freezer under the master bed
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs Год назад
A reverse toy hauler loading door would be super cool on the back of this rig. A built in awning and the ability to let fresh air in while we slept! How cool?!
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs
@MobbinDeep-pq5rs Год назад
Or why not a normal loading door with patio access? Like when will someone build a non toy hauler with a patio? This would be perfect!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I like it!!
@grantsdad98
@grantsdad98 Год назад
No Schwintek! Yay!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Lot of brands seem to be moving away from them
@twill8210
@twill8210 Год назад
Wow. Shut up and take my money !!! 😂grand design is coming out with some really good products this year. Now I can’t choose which model I like better
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I love their originality!
@MojaveMuse
@MojaveMuse 7 месяцев назад
am I in the right train of thought thinking the hanging down red/blue lines you could run a standalone laundry sink or outdoor shower kind of deal?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 7 месяцев назад
Those are low points or bypass drains - not sure they're intended or could work as described
@craigogden3654
@craigogden3654 Год назад
It's brilliant, as someone with 3 kids it seems all the smaller bunkhouses only sleep 2.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Yeah unless you double kids up in bunks but as a parent I get why you wouldn’t want to do that a lot
@michiganprospector8209
@michiganprospector8209 Год назад
Nice idea but nit beefy enoug. Tiny tanks tiny cargo capacity. Ought to be able to handle 3 day weekend off grid. More fresh gray black water capacity. Solar/generator?
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart Год назад
This straight-pull packs long features in a short package. There are some real advantages to a closable bunk room if you can only have one or the other. I love the smokeout cabinetry panels. It really ties in the TV package nicely. It is unfortunate the front bed is not travel accessible. I might actually prefer the extra 6 inches of frame to make it work, but should not be a deal-breaker for someone concerned more about staying under 30 ft. Overall it's a Grand Design. You can only Imagine the memories to be made. What?? Today is NOT National Corny-Pun Day?? Dang.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Wait... CORNY?! lol
@user-ii1yo9zq6j
@user-ii1yo9zq6j Год назад
Hey Josh, this is an awesome TT. Are there any other manufacturers doing anything like this? I truly am a Jayco man myself! Also I would love to see some videos of smaller fifth wheel toy haulers.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
With the private quad bunk? No. This is truly a unicorn. The Jay Feather 21MML has the same living room and murphy bed. Other things like the Freedom Express 29SE have the quad bunk. But this stands apart with that living room AND bunks under 30ft.
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
we love the Jayco white hawk 25MBH layout but when we went to look at it we were super unimpressed by the workmanship and corners cut in manufacturing. seemed like there was no QC :( whats been your experience with the Jayco build and things holding up over time?
@mikeholczer
@mikeholczer Год назад
Would like to see floor plans with a bunk room like this and no “main” bed.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Interesting Ty
@matthartlage889
@matthartlage889 Год назад
It’s nice. But if it had a bedroom up front, it’d be great!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Plenty of them like that out there thankfully!
@SaltyDog69
@SaltyDog69 Год назад
I don’t like bendy beds for the main bed. At least they’re getting outside the box because, I’ve only seen the bunk room like that in a 5th wheel.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Quad bunks used to be so common but camp kitchens kinda made them disappear. Here's another example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tw4Mda6EUZQ.html
@robertaviles8451
@robertaviles8451 Год назад
2:16 "It's a unicorn. I... There's nothing else like it!" Me: like the "Last Unicorn" ? 🎶 I'm alive! I'm aliiive! 🎶 (👍if you know what I mean, Uncle Josh!)
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I won't even lie.. I had to google that one
@daniel.a.cooper
@daniel.a.cooper 10 месяцев назад
Love the floorplan. But the hitch weight is too much for our Expedition El. Looks like the 247BH is the sweet spot for our family of 6.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 месяцев назад
247 is a Great model though!
@daniel.a.cooper
@daniel.a.cooper 10 месяцев назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd agreed!
@johnkinard9758
@johnkinard9758 Год назад
I can see my wife and I using the bunk room as our main bedroom and not even needing the Murphy bed just that couch.. We wouldn't even need the top bunks but instead have maybe a cabinet or shelving.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
You know.. you really could just use it like a twin bed camper...
@johnkinard9758
@johnkinard9758 Год назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd yessir my thoughts exactly!
@Cowboy47
@Cowboy47 Год назад
# NerdHerd 🎉 ❤ 🎉 ❤
@DailyDriver.
@DailyDriver. Год назад
I’d like this if the bunks and the main bed swapped places. I wanna closed room for me and my wife and the kids can have fold away beds. The rest is pretty cook
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
That sounds kinda like this... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z1Arjw5xB7M.html
@erinkrizo2059
@erinkrizo2059 Год назад
It looks like both sides of the dinette have utility items underneath and thus no storage, correct?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I'm not sure if they're fully occupied or not and do not like to venture guesses. Someone at one of our stores may be able to dive into that a little further for you
@Bandgazebo
@Bandgazebo 11 месяцев назад
Eliminate the small dinette and the couch and instead make the front bed a giant U dinette and then you can get a quad bunkhouse with enough seating, but in 25 feet
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 месяцев назад
Interesting idea
@christophercraig9611
@christophercraig9611 Год назад
Very few 1/2 ton trucks could handle the tongue weight of this trailer and have the family in the tow vehicle. Otherwise I really like this floor plan.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
It's a good point. I didn't pay attention to that it seems
@nickhensley9904
@nickhensley9904 10 месяцев назад
we actually saw this model locally. the payload capacity was not what i expected for the things its bringinged to the table. I reached out to grand design to see if they could increase it but they didnt respond with really any options for that. any thoughts on this?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 месяцев назад
It’s a bit of a moot point at this stage, since the model is being retired
@nickhensley9904
@nickhensley9904 10 месяцев назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd that’s sad. A good model in my book. But they do move on.
@pikespeakcogrl47
@pikespeakcogrl47 8 месяцев назад
Josh, this camper has been discontinued. If there is one for sale and someone buys it.. how does that affect resale later... Is it bad to buy a discontinued model? Why would they discontinue so soon after introducing this model to the market?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 8 месяцев назад
I’ve never seen any data one way or the other on resale for retired models Good question but I’ve never seen much of a correlation
@nanadebbiehyman
@nanadebbiehyman Год назад
Wish it had more cargo weight. Unfortunately that takes it out of the running for us.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Fair enough. Ty
@oldengineer1519
@oldengineer1519 Год назад
It looks like a 22MLE with a bunkhouse added on the end. Then you say it in the video. 🤦‍♂ By the way we brought ours home yesterday. It is the access to the bed kitchen and bathroom was one of the things that made the 22MLE our choice. I'm not sure what causes the loss of the bed with the Murphy bed. What I noticed on ours is it came in about 200 lbs heavier than the listed dry weight and about 100 lbs heavier on the tongue when the non-optional options package weights are added in. It looks like they went to a rack and pinion slide. I wish ours had come with that. It might be due to the sink being in the slide too. I was thinking a bit more of looking like a vampire which would fix your occasionally getting caught in the mirror. Edit: For the hot water controls I like where they are. They are close to the kitchen and bath since they are used for both areas.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
LOL :) I take it you type out a sort of "stream of consciousness" method. I often do the same when writing.
@oldengineer1519
@oldengineer1519 Год назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd Maybe more like a stream of unconsciousness but yes I tend comment with the flow of the video.
@steampipe1
@steampipe1 Год назад
Josh- you are the best! Do you have a direct email that I may send you a ( involved) question? Thanks Pat
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Apologies I’m not available for direct consultation right now, but our teams should be able to assist you
@kevincrumley9316
@kevincrumley9316 Год назад
Because it has a tank-less water heater, does that mean the heat source is supplied soley from LP gas?
@commonsenseguy8189
@commonsenseguy8189 Год назад
Tankless means its continous hot water from LP... instead of the 6 gallon tanks that empty and leave you with cold water until they recover...
@dadams1837
@dadams1837 10 месяцев назад
,You would not want a kid (bunk house model) messing with the controls before showering. But at the same time, what stops the person outside of the bathroom from changing the temp?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 месяцев назад
My grandfather would say “a belt.”
@laura7053
@laura7053 Год назад
🎉#NerdHerd.....
@alaguerre6362
@alaguerre6362 Год назад
This is amazing, but these companies keep killing us with their hitch weights.
@philsonnenberg6092
@philsonnenberg6092 Год назад
Just saw that, 825 hitch weight, just makes this not doable for me. Even my Titan HD with towing that too close for me. Even using a weight distribution unit it still puts it over 700.
@joelfarris
@joelfarris Год назад
What do you mean? I don't even have a dually, and my trucks hitch is rated for 1500 pounds.
@alaguerre6362
@alaguerre6362 Год назад
@@joelfarris You have a truck with a bed. We have a 7 passenger SUV. We max out at a 770 hitch weight.
@metamorphicorder
@metamorphicorder Год назад
That bunk house is begging for swaptions to make this thing slap for a childless or one child couple. Thats a halfton small toy hauler to be sure. The bottom bunks could come out and many things could go in there and still keep the top bunks. In fact it might be a good idea to swap in one of those toy hauler bunks/benches in instead of twins. This converts it totally to a toy hauler/bunk house. This could also be a large walk in closet or pantry or an office. Many things.
@commonsenseguy8189
@commonsenseguy8189 Год назад
Small toys... as the door is only 24" tall...
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Do you have a common so you’re really seem to suggest that
@metamorphicorder
@metamorphicorder Год назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd not sure i understood your comment sir.
@JustPlainDan
@JustPlainDan Год назад
I love love love this layout. Perfect for my family, except for that darn rear door! I really don't need the mini toy hauler option. Hopefully another manufacturer (cough...Jayco) comes out with a similar design sans rear door. Or maybe a delete option? I'd also move the entry door and make the front queen sideways and not a murphy bed (think sub-20-foot bunkhouse trailers). You lose seats but I'm OK with that.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Those door are super popular right now. I know they’re not for everyone but a lot of folks love them May I ask what you dislike about them?
@JustPlainDan
@JustPlainDan Год назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd you jokingly touched on it in the video: my kids have a tendency to be sneaky ;). How difficult would it be to make not having the door optional? Like a $300 option to delete the door. We see this in the car world.
@JustPlainDan
@JustPlainDan Год назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd Honestly, I can probably live with the door. The change I'd actually make (if I had the magic wand and one wish) is to take the front queen bedroom orientation from the Aim 16ML and apply it here. As nice as the extra two seats are, the reality is they'd rarely get used in practice. Swinging the bed up and down is a pain once you add sheets or sleeping bags, pillows, and the like.
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
@@JustPlainDan i think about that too with teenagers coming down the pipe and i wonder if there's something you can put on the outside to lock it from the outside. im sure we aren't the only ones who have thought of this!
@user-hm8oz1wx4j
@user-hm8oz1wx4j Год назад
The floorplan is great for larger families, however the 1039 lbs capacity limits it for smaller families :( People can overload the camper but not a safe option!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
It’s a fair point to consider
@user-hm8oz1wx4j
@user-hm8oz1wx4j 6 месяцев назад
If they upgraded the axle and tires for more weight capacity, I think this could be a winner for my family. I would even sleep in bunks with thicker mattresses
@user-dw3oe7my4m
@user-dw3oe7my4m Год назад
Josh, why does it seem everyone is going with Murphy beds?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Trying new things. Reducing total length reduces weight/cost very quickly. It's an attractive proposition Having 2-3 murphy models in your lineup is a good idea I think. But that's about it. Vast majority of RVs still use a fixed bed and I don't foresee that changing
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
lots of versatility for families! we personally love a murphy option because it gives more seating during the day and doesn't sacrifice length. we live in the PNW with lots of mountain camping navigating around huge pine trees so staying under 30 feet is a huge selling point for us.
@Mark300win
@Mark300win 3 месяца назад
Why did they discontinue this great design!??
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 3 месяца назад
As it turns out she just didn’t prove overly popular which kinda shocked me
@jimbrown2485
@jimbrown2485 10 месяцев назад
Josh do they make a fifth wheel with two masters basically two King beds with toilets in each room? I've only seen that Alliance but one of the beds is a queen? Tell me it's not so that they don't have a fifth wheel with two king master bedroom suites with toilets? Tell me they're going to be making 1 coming soon the theaters near you LOL thank you big J sorry for the😮 humor😊😅😂🎉
@maryjanegibson7743
@maryjanegibson7743 Год назад
This might not be the best place for this but I don't know of any better way of putting this info out. Always be aware of the children at the campsites near you. Almost all the time, they are going to be fine, but keep in mind that camping is a great way to keep an abducted kid away from home for an extended period. I'm not suggesting spying on anyone, but stay smart and aware of kids in unusual situations. If there is some cause for concern, you can quietly ask the campground manager to initiate a discreet well-being check on a family. Chances are good that all is well, but sometimes it is an alert stranger who saves a nasty situation from happening.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
I'm always shocked at how un-attended so many kids are in a VARIETY of situations. I dunno.. maybe I'm paranoid but if we're in public I'm not letting my daughter out of the sight of either myself or my wife.
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
all controls should be in the same spot, hidden behind the cabinet door! :)
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 месяцев назад
👍🏻👍🏻
@taryncuen6239
@taryncuen6239 11 месяцев назад
@@JoshtheRVNerd do you happen to know why they discontinued this model? thanks!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 11 месяцев назад
@@taryncuen6239 lacking sales is the only reason they would
@nicholascioffi559
@nicholascioffi559 10 месяцев назад
Why does nobody else do this?? If the front bed is private, you lose your living space when the kids go to bed. This is fantastic. I hope it catches on!!
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd 10 месяцев назад
I had high hopes but it doesn’t look like this concept is going to take off. Sadly so. From what I understand this is already being retired due to lack of popularity :(
@bobmiscavage4282
@bobmiscavage4282 Год назад
Nice camper, but not for me. Like the pedestal on the dinette table. Wish Grand Design still made the TT with the rear dinette under 30’ and two exit doors. If they had I would have bought one. Nice video Josh.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Is that kind of like the cougar 25rds?
@trzam400
@trzam400 Год назад
Josh is so happy I think he peed a little
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
…maybe What of it?
@RobRodriguez-nq1iv
@RobRodriguez-nq1iv 5 месяцев назад
Roof leaking on first trip, probably has leaked for the past year. @GDRVTV customer service is no use. Need to take it in for service wait time 2 months. Now I need to cancel upcoming trips so the unit can sit at the dealer uncovered and take in more water. What a mess and horrible experience . Purchased 12/30/23 First trip 01/26/24
@jebkramer1263
@jebkramer1263 Год назад
Only one set of bunks-turned sideways, cut even more length.
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Couple folks offered a similar idea. It's an interesting though!
@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum Год назад
+1 hopefully that trims some hitch weight too
@deadshot2667
@deadshot2667 Год назад
Can the queen be swapped out with a better bed?
@JoshtheRVNerd
@JoshtheRVNerd Год назад
Provided I can fold up, yes. Murphy beds are tricky that way.
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