Exactly! This is who and what Luke was meant to be. Kathleen Kennedy turned Luke from the kind and selfless Jedi everyone knew and loved into a crazy, depressed, brooding, indecisive, murderer! The real Luke could change hearts and minds by living by example. Disney Luke was utterly insufferable!
Later in this scene when Luke asks Del to let him keep a device they found, Del says "Why should I let you have it?" (because his mission was to destroy a cache of artifacts) and Luke replies, "Because I asked."
By the time Rey met him, he was an old man in exile who, toz his knowledge, had failed everyone, including himself. And when he went to strike down Ben in that moment, Luke was frightened of the idea of failing. He wasn't perfect. But yeah the sequels do kinda suck.
@@podrakhalvati Vader was the chosen one, though severely damaged, he was still a powerhouse of the force, he didn’t disconnect himself from the force either like Luke did. Sooooo
Imagine being Del in this scene, meeting a literal legend and myth in the flesh, someone who used to terrify you, and finding out you were lied to this whole time. I'd switch sides too
Lies does not mean the opposite is true. Luke did massacre millions…. That were aboard the deathstar. His terrorist group, known as the rebellion, destabilized the peaceful core systems. To topple one man and save the galaxy. Its all a matter of perspective.
@Storm Aurora Technically true, but the millions killed on the Death Star I don't feel bad for. Everyone there knew what the station was for, and after Alderaan was destroyed I don't have sympathy for that. I do have some sympathy for the other core systems, as several of them were peaceful, if over taxed.
Well everyone on the Death Star that could’ve known got blown up soon after so they didn’t have too long to be scared of him 😂 Edit: I get it holy shit, “Well escape pods etc etc.” I wasn’t even being serious damn. You will not be the first person to tell me that I’m wrong so you can just stop already. Also, how tf is somebody in the hangar gonna know what went down in the Throne Room, they probably don’t give a shit anyway, they’re just trying to leave before they explode.
Well, no one really knew Darth Vader in the empire, which was on purpose. Also, no one knew about the Sith, so Palpatine was just an average emperor for any of them, and even he wasn't that well-known.
@@trainknut I'm a purist and Anakin is never not the chosen one at any given time since he completed the prophecy when he irreparably damaged Palpatine's connection **to the force, ending the Sith.
@@Rampagelil "tragedy strike that changed his perception of the world or something. " Oh and PLEASE enlighten me as to what this HORRIFIC event could have been? Do you perhaps mean the scene where Luke almost murdered a sleeping child because he was having a nightmare? The changes they made to Luke were dogshit bro, stop simping over Disneys dogass movies.
@@Rampagelil "Tried to kill his nephew because he had a bad vision" Is not good writing. It takes Luke out of character in order to contrive a scenario. That's dumb.
@@zzodysseuszz no bc according to the sequels the prophecy was fulfilled by the untrained chick who suddenly knew how to use a lightsaber not once did anyone call anakin the chosen one except for obi wan when they were fighting qui gon said he might be and mace said literally the same thing qui gon did never actually confirming it anakin was a slave until he was taken by the Jedi he relished in the power he now had and so it was easy for palpatine to seduce him with the dark side offering even more power. In reality luke was the chosen one bc he defeated palpatine and redeemed his father without anakin having children with padme palpatine would never have been defeated
“You're telling me the man who destroyed the Jedi Order is secretly one of them?” “No. I'm telling you that as a boy on Coruscant you were frightened of the wrong thing.”
THE Luke Skywalker, the one and only. Poor Mark Hamil man, I feel so bad for him and his character being drug through the mud and turned into something so twisted and lost. This is the Luke we should have gotten. It's nice to see someone remember who the character of Luke Skywalker actually is.
Except Luke will either help them if they’re defenseless and in peril like Del here or he’ll lament having had to fight them (like how he says “I’m sorry” after killing Stormtroopers in the gameplay before this or “I don’t want to kill you!” and “You gave me no choice!” in multiplayer). But those who don’t know his empathetic nature (a polar opposite to what his father had become) only know that he’ll go to any length to fight for the Rebellion, defeat the Empire, and defend his friends, with no regard for his own life in the process, so standing between him and either of those things is very unwise. Of course, there’s also the fact that this takes place after the Emperor and Darth Vader were killed. Del doesn’t know that it wasn’t Luke who killed them, so he has every reason to be uneasy here. That’s what I really admire about this scene. He quickly realizes that Luke Skywalker isn’t the big, bad villain Imperial propaganda paints him to be. Instead, he’s a friend to those with goodness in their hearts.
The guy walked in a room handcuffed by Vader to meet the emperor palpatine and he was the only one who came out alive Them being scared of this guy is the most normal reaction you can have😂😂😂😂
@@def3ndr887 more like being the literal child of a being which was basically created by the force to become the chosen one and that child inheriting the sheer amount of power from said being(Anakin)
@@def3ndr887 what plot armor ? first time he takes the shot at Deathstar he misses then gets roflstomped by an animal and almost freezes to death then gets his ass handed to him by his father and his arm cut off then gets electroshock therapy from Palpatine and has to be save by his father ... for a main character he gets tossed around quite a bit in "his story"
@@JoyfulUniter And what happens when you understand them, and fundamentally oppose them because their ideology is nothing but hatred, such as the nazis?
@@cadkls Someone with nothing but hatred is a story trope that's not actually real, you're dealing with real people, they're exactly you, and that's the point... when you can see that war stops being a viable option quite logically.
Yes, this is Luke. He saw a person the needed help and he helped. Luke is the man that looked at the most evil person in the galaxy and saw that there was good in him.
Luke in ROTJ: _Sees the good in his father, a genocidal murderer who terrorized the galaxy for +20 years_ Luke in TLJ: _Attempts to kill his nephew because of a nightmare_
@@blue1133 a nightmare that came true when he destroyed an entire system full of planets in one movie, and then destroyed another in the last movie with access to a fleet that could decimate the galaxy
@@joefog964 correction. A nightmare that only became true because of Luke’s own stupidity in trying to kill his own nephew because of a dream. His fear gave reality to the dream he had. Ben would’ve become a powerful Jedi if not because of Luke’s weakness. That’s why people hate the sequels. They say it’s bullshit crappy writing which i agree the movies could’ve been way better but i think it’s more of the plot and how the movies basically disrespected the endings to every movie in the prequel and original series that makes people hate it. Just the disrespect it showed to it’s elders. We know Ben deep down always wanted to be a Jedi but fell to the sith do to his uncle that’s why he was never a Sith Lord because he never truly wanted to be a Sith Lord no matter how much he tried to cut ties with the light side of the force even by killing his own father he was always drawn back to it and in the end he gave his life to preserve the light side of the force for Rey. That’s why imo he would’ve been 10x stronger a Jedi than he was as a Sith. Jedi was where he belonged. Sith was his place only because of others actions, not his own
It's called character progression. Luke changed to become more cynical after his order fell. It's pretty simple writing that explores his character in interesting ways.
@@jellyjohn7881 we don’t need all our fan favorite heroes becoming sad and lonely losers hiding in exile. Especially when they end up like that over stupid reasons. I.E. “oh no he had a bad dream better kill him in his sleep!”
Imagine being an Imperial seeing Luke after Endor. People didn't know what happened in the throne room, all they knew was that luke was captured, taken to the emperor by Darth Vader and then only Luke left the room
It's actually worse than that. He was captured and taken to the throne room. Then he leaves dragging Vader's seemingly dead body to a ship with no emperor. Really makes him look evil if you sided with them.
@@morbiuslover6686 true however they had just lost Palpatine and Vader. The rebellion just took Coruscant and destroyed the death star. The empire was beaten and broken as the next highest power were the moffs and they were each greedy for power and tried to leave. So each one took a fraction of the empire and tried to fight the rebellion themselves calling them the true empire. That's why the empire lost to the rebellion. It wasn't until Thrawn that the empire was truly reunited and led to be a threat again, well except for when Palpatine force possessed his own clone bodies but that's another story.
@@wookieninja8794 he had a ways to go to the throne room so he was dragging Vader's body for awhile. he def passed a bunch of troopers and officers who probably escaped seeing that. I think the Empire found out that Luke was the one who blew up the first Death Star so Luke is #1 on Empire's list of most feared
This entire level legitimately made me feel like a kid again, watching Star Wars for the very first time. That’s something none of the sequels ever managed to do.
I basically just used the force to defend myself and did attck the trooper directly. The force should be used for knowledge and defense, never for attack.
“why’d you help me?” “bc you asked.” that response was so simple yet so perfect. Luke was the true embodiment of what a jedi should be, and it’s a shame we never got see his adventures as a seasoned jedi.
@@TheTaintedWisdom He forgot a comma and some context. It's been awhile since I played through BF2 but I remember that Luke said something to Del that he thought meant that Luke wanted him to join so he said "What, to join the Rebellion?" And Luke said "No, to be better".
It’s truly hilarious how TLJ got Luke’s character completely and utterly wrong, but every time Luke has appeared in the other media (video games, shows etc) they absolutely nail his character’s strength, compassion, and wisdom
Passionate fans making content understands who Luke is. I’m sure EA had lots of Star Wars fans involved in the making of these games… but Kathleen Kennedy and her Sequel crew wanted to make their own vision, even if it contradicts what Star Wars is… who Luke is… who Anakin was. It’s no surprise that other storytellers get right what Disney got wrong.
@@bradpoc2791 the saber choreography was cool. Luke himself was just weird. He comes in doesn’t introduce himself and we know it’s not because his reputation proceeds him because Djin doesn’t know who he is. He doesnt seem the least bit curious as to how these people ended up in this situation he just takes Grogu and leaves with giving his own name, asking Djin for his, or telling Djin where he can find him in future. It’s honestly a shallow underdeveloped cameo.
The way he helps other no matter who they are is what hope really is. I love how he looked back with a genuine smile. Knowing that Del is a very conflicted person. But has a good heart. This is Luke Skywalker.
Del: Why would the Emperor have a door that could only be opened with the force? Are you telling me the man who destroyed the jedi was secretly one of them? Luke: I'm saying that as a boy on Corsaunt, you were frightened by the wrong thing.
I find it to be charming that Luke didn’t straight up explain to Del that Palpatine was a Sith Lord… he instead lets Del come to his own conclusions based on small hints and Luke’s own actions. Luke was a guide rather than some overseer who had to correct Del for everything he was worth. Too bad the Sequels ruined what an amazing teacher Luke could have been by completely ignoring his actual personality and giving me trauma that undid the good ending Lucas intended in Episode 6.
You only play as Luke for one mission, but that single mission cracks del’s entire viewpoint on the empire wide open, or rather, his viewpoint on the Jedi to an extent, and it’s great
Wise, Calm, Sage, yet Powerful. Like his entrance in Return of the Jedi, his Triumph at the end, his rescue of Grogu in the Mandalorian, and to an extent, his teachings in the Book of Boba Fett.
@Justahuman sorry for a second i read wrong i i thought you said that this game came before disney bought star wars which wouldn't make any sense. But they still ruined his character
You should never meet your heroes in real life then. Sometimes life gives you the finger and you reluctantly have to clean up a mess you created. And most of us die as so called coward. You can't guarantee you will be at your best until the end. Sorry Luke wasn't the Mary Sue you always wanted to grow up to be. You do what's best for the story, not what's best for the fandom.
We met a character who failed, and as a result was left broken. He's a real person who makes mistakes. Do you consider Yoda a coward because he hid away, or Anakin a coward because he didn't stand up to Sideous? Frankly, it would've been boring if the Luke we saw in the sequels was like a younger Luke, instead we got to explore his character in a new way.
@@jellyjohn7881 Yoda failed to kill Sidious, Kenobi failed to kill Vader (twice technically) and both decided to exile themselves. Which kinda had to be shoehorned in to fit the OT but it works well enough. That doesn’t mean we need all our heroes to fail and exile themselves to make them more human that’s just lazy writing
This is my favorite Luke, he seems to change in everything, but in this one he seems to acknowledge that there all people and should be treated like ghat
When i played this game the first time a few years ago, the way they portrayed Luke nearly brought me to tears. It was perfect. Too bad we didnt get this kind of Luke on the big screen.
The thing that truly baffles me about this scene and its depiction of Luke is that this came out a month before the last Jedi. For all intents and purposes, this was Disney's stance on his character and it's what everyone was expecting in the movie.
And the fact that he walked out of the throne room carrying (maybe dragging I forgot) the Emperors Executioner in his arms (seemingly dead) Which would terrify people 10x more lol
That's the thing about Luke is he didn't care which side you were on if you ask for help he was willing to lend a hand. That's what made Luke the best Jedi That Ever Walked the face of the universe.
i love luke in jedi outcast and academy. legends is so good. I really like luke in this scene as well. one of the few times the new stuff portrayed him well.
Most citizens of the empire does, this is the dude that was the last person both the emperor and Vader (The two most terrifying individuals in the galaxy) fought before they were both announced dead, this is the dude that was credited for the destruction of the 1st death star And on top of that there were still many jedi remnants after order 66 that did some pretty abominable things So to have this jedi, who was so resilient that he survived the purge and all the years of the empire and still defeat the two most dangerous people in the empire along with their greatest superweapon while also hearing about all the terrible things the jedi supposedly did would make any imperial trooper crap themselves at the sight of Luke
Crazy how mirrored to WW2 it is. It’s like when the Nazis burned down the reichstag and blamed it on the communists which got loads of backing from the public and killed the communists in support. Then proceeded to spread stories against the Jews
this is the best depiction of luke post disney acquisition and gave me false hope they were gonna continue with this. whoever wrote this scene and dialogue was a fan for sure
Amazes me the thought they put into this story, actually felt so believable and inspired when Del and Iden swapped from the Empire to the Rebellion. This scene always stuck with me because of the way Del seemed to actually fear Luke. Adds a lot to the power and influence the Empire held, they changed the past entirely.
Lucasfilm writers don’t write the games, that’s why. The people who wrote the scripts for BF2 and Fallen Order are actual Star Wars fans that want to do it justice. That’s why the characters in both games, new and legacy, were excellently written. Cal Kestis was so good that he’s now in my top 3 Star Wars characters
@@d.bowenz Exactly, like how no one believes white people were originally alien creations. Whites control the history books and common religious books such as the bible.
@@speedfreakfrank 🤣alien creations. Okay. I'll humor you and give you that. But to say whites control the history books and religious texts is hilariously wrong. The ones that do control those things might be lighter skinned, but they would never consider themselves white or any other color for that matter. They consider themselves to be a separate race entirely from all of us who have only 33 vertebrae. That's why they call us the Goy and call themselves "God's chosen".
@@speedfreakfrank hahaha. gotta love the "look into it" line. hell, I've used it many times myself. you might think there's more to it, but when you've really '"looked into it" and have overloaded your brain with so much occult knowledge, conspiracy theories, and hidden history as I have, you'll eventually come back to the simplest conclusion. it's called Occom's Razor for a reason. the small hat wearing "juice" are pulling the 'mind strings' of humanity (or at least following the orders of some hidden puppet master). pure and simple. for what reason? who knows? but I do know "Nature Bats Last", so we "goyim" have that to look forward to. have fun with your journey of knowledge. I'm sure you'll eventually realize that the Devil is in the details, and the details only serve to trap your game-loving mind into beLIEfs that only lead you away from the truth.
i like how wholesome luke is and how he makes everyone feel safe by him just being there, he’s a gentle sweet but strong guy which is something this world can lack
This is the real Luke Skywalker! He was not only extremely powerful in the Force but also had an exceptionally kind heart when it came to helping others in need be it even his sworn enemy!
The thing is to Luke, the Rebellion still wasnt the best. To be the best option, is to abandoned the idea and need for war entirely and be at peace in the universe. Even with someone whos ideals are not your own. The rebellion will go to war still over those ideals.
I always found this scene funny, Del days “Is that what you used to murder my men?” Referring to his lightsaber, and Luke says “They didn’t give me a chance they attacked first” but when you play as Luke slaughtering his men, you literally ambush and murder 2 stormtroopers that were just chatting. 😂
It always irked me that they literally force you to kill every single stormtrooper to get into the cave. They will not surrender and you can't just force your way into the cave. Kinda detracts from the cutscenes imo.
Imagine the bogeyman walks in on you in the most vulnerable possible moment. The creature who as good as killed God. And instead of terrible, he is quiet, and gentle, and kind.
There’s something about a guy who is extremely powerful but also kind… It’s bewildering and scary. Because you understand that he could take anything he wanted but has the self-control not to. That is such a rare quality that it’s almost frightening.
"Why did you help me?" "Cuz you asked" That line exchange alone showed a lot more understanding and respect for the character than the sequels ever did.
THIS IS WHO LUKE IS. He was someone who would risk his life doing stuff like this because he always saw the good in people. Even when faced with Darth Vader, he tried to look into the tiniest bit of good that was in him, unlike the Luke Skywalker where he casually wanted to kill his brother in laws son just because he saw the smallest bit of evil.
It’s so sad that we never saw THIS Luke on screen. When even Mark Hamil is deceived of how they portrayed him on the sequels, that’s the sign of a botched job. Good job on the writers of BF on that one
This was the single greatest moment of character development between two people on screen in a video game. We saw who Luke really was, and so did Del. And that changed him for life.
