This is NOT a normal Smash Bros Controller 

"you're losing games because of you and not the controller it's you." First off who told you I needed honesty this morning

The notches on the controller looks like someone took a knife to it.

“There’s no right or wrong controller to use” Sideways joycons and wii motes sideways “finally my day has come”

Bob: This video is brought to you by rai- Me: OH GOD NO PLEASE NO Bob: I'm just kidding Me:Jesus

That Raid legends sponsor got me lol

This is why I love this channel. They sent you free stuff, basically sponsored the video, did everything they could to increase their sales base, and Bob is like, “yeah... no. Would recommend to almost nobody.” Classic. Thanks for the video fellas.

Hot Take: The GameCube controller is bad. Only us true gamers use the DK Bongos.

That controller cost more than the switch and smash combined. 😂

Good lord, those prices. I was feeling really sold on those controllers at first but now I'd be more tempted to just buy some precision tools and try it myself.

3:43 shes just sitting there.... Menacingly....

1:32 "The Important Button Is Right In The Middle" He's right, you can't L+R+A+Start without start.

8:42 i like your point about knowing when you need it, that's how i felt when i got my wide angle lens because i was like man i want my camera closer to my face but to still have a lot in frame... hmmmmmm guess i need a wide angleeee

Real talk though, PROS DONT USE THIS! If you go to a smash major tournament there MIGHT be 1 person there with this controller. This controller so isn't worth it for any reason. Happy playing!

the one thing in smash I've never been able to nail is short hops... learn about that y+a thing like a week ago and it has absolutely turned my game around fucking EVERYBODY up with the neutral airs.

The gamecube controller may be the best according to many but there are no decently priced adapters and the 3rd party adapters have more input lag apparently. I'm not really thrilled that I'd have to spend over 100 dollars just for the adapter and the gamecube controller.

HIM: “Who is this controller for?!” ME: “At those prices, obviously someone who smokes their crack with a monocle and fancy antique pocket watch” 😂

Shorthopping is performed by letting go of your jump button before your character leaves their jumpsquat animation. In other words, the timing is dependent on your release of the button, not how quickly you press it. So... reducing the button height might just be placebo, I don't see why it would actually help the button release faster.

For one, these are wayyyyy more useful in Melee since wavedash and shielddrop notches can make certain tech eaiser. But second, N3zModGod is who every top player goes to for modifications. Top Notch Controllers coming in at second.

I was afraid this would get demonetized when he said “stick hole.”

So pros don't really use these. I would say that 95% use a stock gamecube controller. The other 5% use a mix of pro controller and modified versions of these controllers. The notches aren't very necessary imo because they don't guide your thumb to them, you still have to hit the notch by muscle memory. And shorthopping isn't bad with a stock controller as long as you practice it. Don't use macros to short hop, not even the one where you press 2 jump buttons. It's optimal to press the least buttons possible

"you're losing games because of you and not the controller it's you." *Me letting go of me controller completely and just watching my character continuously up-smash*

I would encourage some of you younger people/newer to the scene to google your local area smash tournaments. There’s definitely a community out there wether you play melee or ultimate! Nothing beats your first irl tournament I promise you!

Con artists with those prices.

Good for melee Good for recovering with pikachu from bottom blastzone without a jump That's prolly it

02:33 That whole description reminds me of Snake geeking out over that 1911 in MGS3

Strange timing for this vid, I spent the whole day yesterday researching controllers to buy because I busted the shoulder button on my old GC controller. I was one click away from spending like $250 on a modded GC controller (at Multishine ironically enough) and at the last second decided not to instead opting to get a Japanese Import GC Smash Ultimate controller (for a still pricey $60). I've used both the Pro controller and GC during my time with Smash Ultimate and honestly both are really good. IMO the main difference between the Pro controller and GC controllers is essentially just button layout. I kept switching back and forth between trying to find what I preferred and, even though I have no legacy help from previous Smash games, like you mention in the video the button hierarchy on the GC is a very real thing. It actually helped me improve my play (although I am nowhere near tournament ready) as I felt myself getting more comfortable with the GC controller much faster than with the Pro. This isn't proof that one is better than the other, it's just an anecdotal note of my preference. The one thing this video actually did do is show me that I really want notches as I main PT as well and constantly miss my tilt angles lol PS please don't make us play on random maps, let us strike them like an actual tournament. There are plenty of third party options to help with striking maps

_"fighting games are really easy to understand"_

Coming from a Gamecube Controller modder myself. For smash ultimate one of the most useful mods to do to the controller that you did not mention, are digital triggers with a trigger plug. This converts your analog input from the trigger, to a digital button, the trigger plug gives the height in which the button activates a button press feel. Digital triggers are godlike for parrying. Hit me up @CVSmashMods on twitter, and instagram!

“this video was sponsored by raid shadow legends” Me:getting ready to skip the whole thing

The GameCube analog sticks have EIGHT CRAZY ANGLES.

Notches dont change tilt inputs in ult since the input is detected before ur stick reaches the notch. Their usefull for getting the right angle when holding in a direction like for example optimal wavedashes or Firefox in melee.

Fatality: *sad captain falcon face* 😥

Never seen this channel before. I subscribed as soon as I saw the Raid Shadow Legends bit LOL

8:20 Totally fine. I'm just starting to get obsessed in Smash and already thinking about the things all the pros do to try and learn, when it comes to peripherals, it's not about imitating them, but knowing what I'll need first.

Just buy a hand file and you can give your controller notches for less than $5.

Shared the tournament link on the Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Meta of Smash discords. I wish I could join myself but I can't. Your videos are great and your humor is on point. Look forward to seeing more of your wacky videos.

Him: This video ist sposer... Me: prepares to skip Him: gotcha there is no ad Me: Years of Academy Training wased.

This guy is a true gamer for not advertising Raid: Shadow Legends Respect!

I feel like the cutouts on the pro controller would wear out fairly quickly but idk

I feel like all the mods would be helpful for Mario sunshine speed running

Dude that background music is so good

The thing that made me laugh so hard was "if your losing match it's probably you" hahahah the realest shit Ive heard

9:46 Each time I sneeze I shoot out way more than $400, but that's not what you're talking about.

I'm by no means a competitive smash player or even a good one, but I'd rather pay for a gamecube controller face/shell with smooth analogue contact that won't wear down the sticks over time, like the dualshock 4 does.

a true smash champion plays brawl with the wii remote on it’s side because they don’t need the handicap of melee and the gamecube controller.

I was so close to skipping the sponsor once I heard "rai-"

Several hundred dollar upcharge... When I could wrap some sandpaper around a toothpick and go to town for the same result? Fuck that

"Look to make sure you're subscribed right now" damnn I'm one of those that was relying on home page

Bob:NC is probably the best falcon Marss: am I a joke to you

After the “Raid sha... just kidding there’s no sponsor” I had to pause the video to sub and like. That was great

Just wanted to say, for the Nintendo game cube controller adapter, you only need the black usb to be plugged in! So it only takes up 1 port on the switch.

GC controller is the best way to play Smash imo, although these mods are mostly unnecessary. The eight way notches are all you really need since most attacks will conform to this. And a tip for people who want to take smash a bit more seriously: start learning manual short hops and don't use the shortcuts. The shortcuts are nice for casuals, but prevent you from fast falling aerials after a short hop so it limits your options. A 'true' short hop needs a quick press-and-release on any jump button. I know some people try to quickly press jump, but it's all about releasing the button press as quickly as possible. Iirc, you got 3 frames to do a short hop so you need to press-and-release before those 3 frames are finished.

Soooo basically, this is a controller for Melee Fox mains and for people who suck at short hopping with vanilla controllers. Fair, no pun intended.

You don’t really need notches for Ultimate

The gamecube controller was designed for smash bros. also getting plugs in your l and r buttons makes it so you don't have to press down as far.

Personally since I play ZSS a lot of her special and tilts depend a lot on the direction you flick your stick... I suck at that making me either flip kick the wrong way, up b the wrong way, or plain out doing side b instead of a neautral b reverse... But that last one is more me than anything. The notches would help me but... A regular GC controller would be sufficient, taken to account I use Joy-Cons... My GC controller is on its way (finally) 😁

there is 100% science in choosing a controller, you CANNOT press B + jump on a gamecube controller for a short hop special without either rebinding the keys or using multiple fingers. there is so much science I had to comeback to this video years later

I lose matches because Nintendo online connection. Is there a mod for that?

If you use a GC controller, you should try to cap off the shoulder buttons. It basically just shortens the distance needed to press the digital switch that emulates a full press immediately

Thought Bob sold his soul for a second

I love the gamecube controller. Theres just something about it. Even with it not having all the buttons and features of modern controllers its still so good.

I wish Nintendo would improve the GameCube design and make it their standard controller!

I know I'm insanely late to this video, but PLEASE do not buy from Multishine, they are a massive scam. Their notches are especially terrible. They're more like dents. They get the values wrong for things like shield drops in melee, and C stick notches for Ultimate don't actually do anything. Additionally, everything else they offer is insanely overpriced compared to literally any other controller modder. An exmaple is if you go on their website and select an OEM JP white controller with full angle notches, cut L and R springs, and snapback capacitor, you're looking at $445, whereas that would probably be in the lower $200's from any local modder.

Trading my kids' Switch Lites for more parries. What it takes to be the best 😤😤😤

0:45 so please, no johns

I’m glad I got my GameCube controller for ultimate when it came out. Payed $30.

Short hopping isn’t a half press, it’s a 3-frame release.

Wouldnt a “normal” smash controller technically be an N64 controller?

Wow, this is cool! I've seen this video in my recommendations for a while, but I've always put off watching since (coming from the competitive Melee scene) I already knew that it was a notched controller. Knowing nothing about the game myself, it was awesome to see how modded controllers help Ultimate players.

stop, drop, fuck n fly

I just use a regular Switch Pro Controller. Seems fine to me. lol

You can also buy the Nintendo gamecube controller for $16 at gamestop

It's absurd. A controller that works for ONE game that is the price of a brand new console is a terrible investment. I'd rather buy a PS4 Pro...

OG GameCube controllers L and R buttons have analog and digital triggers so it knows how much pressure is being applied to it. Not good for smash but it’s good for everything that came out on the GameCube.

11:00 Imagine justifying spending the equivalent of a Nintendo Switch on just a controller with some spring cuts, short triggers, and knife marks in it.

The grinding sound that would happen trying to play Terry or Street Fighter characters lmao

I honestly feel like there’s quality controller design on a GC controller. The A B AND Z placement is just good for me. I also feel like a wired controller (not just for GC) is a must. Gaining a quality frame of input is a huge plus and online that number only goes up.

I’m top at my college for ultimate and while I do play competitively, this is way too expensive just for practicing an extracurricular

"When you need one, you'll know which one to get." wise words indeed

How dare you scare me with that Raid Shadow Legends AD joke.

If you didnt know, you can also press both jump buttons to perform a shorthop without throwing any attack...

Most competitive players don't use these things lel.

I respect what they do, but I've modded my gamecube controller (aside from the notches) and all it took was probably a grand total of like $20. All you really need is a $3 tri wing, and possibly a Phillips head you probably have lying around and you're set. And you can cut your own springs and button pads to your desired length. While note that I would never recommend trying to notch your own controller, every other mod that Multishine offers is either trivial to do or hardly noticable. Grab yourself a decent controller and a tri wing and you can do most of what they offer. There are some amazing tutorials (look up Zenith SSBM) that will bring you on your way to safely opening your controllers. It's just $400+ seems outrageous especially since I was able to do most of those mods on my own with little skill with electronics. And if you really need the notches, N3z does great work for half the price

A needle file set is $3.99.

This is NOT a normal gamecube controller. It is an overpriced gamecube controller that will never be a justifiable purchase! Lazytendo not only managed to botch their online for smash, but to not produce such legendary controllers for their best selling game(and make more money) is beyond me.

I'm glad I got my smash edition controller for $5 in 2017. GameStop was brilliant with there Wii clearance. 😆

This is very true for many things in life. Scene dudes spent 10k on a set golf clubs and go duff the ball into the water lmao

"It doesn't matter which controller you prefer..." Melee fans rage

$400+ for a gamecube controller with some leave-or-take mods? No

"This video is brought to you by Raid Sh-" *Immediately skips 5-10 seconds*

Since we are talking about notches, every controller should have an octagonal stickhole for the sticks rather than a circle. Whether it is a Switch Pro Controller, Dualshock controller, Xbox controller or any generic controller with analog sticks. Notches are a godsend when playing 3d platformers, reason that if possible I use my gamecube controller just for the notches, I wanna add notches to my PS4 controller if possible just for 8 directions.

day 100 of reminding people these are fake notches and they suck

this is like a person that's never picked up a guitar buying a 59 les paul and saying "wow this is pretty good"

The gamecube bulky adapter only needs the black usb connector, the grey one is vibration.

Meanwhile, I'm playing Smash with 1 sideways joy-con

Holy shit, those notches can have so many applications for so many characters

That's insanely overpriced

As soon as he said its sponsored by raid shadow legends. I pressed skip but skipped back after he said i am joking 😂😂

The gamecube controller was literally designed for smash brothers. That's why it's so perfect for it.

this is how all controllers should be made. I wanted that controller notch design since thumbsticks existed, I just never had the money to create it.