This felt like an oldschool episode to me. Here's a product being misleading, here's why, and here are options in a similar price range that are objectively better. Simple but effective, love it.
The box plots at 9:25 are really great, but it would be awesome if you showed them all side by side at the same time so that they are easier to compare.
Look up "violin plots", you'll never want to go back to a boxplot again. Gives you all the same info as a boxplot but also additional information about the distribution of the actual datapoints.
For us GTAO players, while flying a helicopter, the optimum control layout is WASD for engine power up and down and tail power up and down and also 8456 on the numpad for rotor tilt. Add in tab to scroll through weapons and space to use them and you could actually be pressing 10 keys at once just to fly a helicopter... in GTA. A simple way yo see how many keys your keyboard SHOULD rollover is to look at your drivers, the USB keyboard driver can only support up to 10 keys per instance, but many keyboards actually connect to your pc 3 or 4 times, you will literally have 4 parallel keyboards in your device manager, and that exists only to allow more simultaneous key presses. And yes, some keyboards do allow 40 keys at once. Which all pale next to old school ps/2 keyboards which can actually have every single key pressed at once. And old games like Mech Warrior 3 actually needed it.
Having multiple keys being pressed at once is actually important for genres that require multi-button inputs, such as fighting games (which isn’t anywhere near as hellish as trying to play DMC on a keyboard, an example pointed out the video). Speaking of which, keyboard switches are actually becoming quite popular with leveless controllers. It’s because of those kinds of controllers that SOCD (simultaneous opposing cardinal directions) has become a hot topic in the FGC. Although another pet peeve of mine that carried over for this keyboard is the fact that the cable is hard-wired to the PCB. It’s a nuisance that’s also pretty commonplace with arcade sticks, so stick manufacturers really need to just do detachable USB-C ports across the board like most keyboard makers already do these days.
Uhh, i think its important for more than just fighting games In fact, i believe that N-key rollover should be the only standard, and everything under it should be left to the dustbin of history.
@@nemtudom5074 Implementing NKRO is more expensive. If the intended customers aren't ever going to need more than 6KRO, keeping prices down by omitting NKRO can be a good thing. As long as the company doesn't lie about it...
@@TheUnlocked While technicly true, its an abysmally small cost. Its just a bunch of extra traces and resistors, maybe a slightly more expensive controller that can handle N-key rollover. It shouldnt increase the price by more than a couple dollars (unless the manufacturer is using it as an excuse to inflate the price of the keyboard) I really dont think this argument holds water. Technicly you're right, but its inconsequential. For a 10$ membrane keyboard, sure. For a mechanical keyboard, nahh. Even the affordable redragon keyboards have n-key rollover. it doesnt matter in end cost.
i actually almost bought this keyboard thinking it is a "mechanical keyboard", back when i didnt know anything about mechanical keyboard. Thank god i found another mehcanical keyboard at that pricepoint and its a real mechanical keyboard
Never knew about key rollover before. Found an online test and was pleased to see my G610 Brown got up to at least 26, making me believe it's probably just NKRO since I ran out of ways to press keys lol.
Why would HP bother going to the trouble of building 90% of a mechanical switch and then leaving out the leaf springs at the last moment? You've saved literal pennies worth of stamped metal only to completely ruin their product. A keyboard designed by accountants and not engineers. Sad.
As someone who logged over a 100 hours on a membrane keyboard in DMC3 when it first came out on PC, this is the last place where i'd expect to get called out like that. Good job writers.
Several years ago I worked for a major university's IT department. These HP keyboards would last 3-6 months at most before they wore out and were basically a mushy mess. Terrible quality control right to the point of the plastic parts rubbing and squeaking on each other they had so much play in them.
@@xeon39688 No, that was the keyboard that came with the PC. We bought a LOT of those SFF HP PCs, which were excellent for normal office use. But the included keyboard went from good, lasts for 3 years or so to 1 year then finally junk because we have to include something. The cost-cutting was blatantly obvious on everything aside from the PC itself. The same with their monitors - the panel was fine, but the bezels, stands, and even supplied cables all went from beefy and solid to barely adequate. Lenovo (same parent company) had this happen as well with their laptops which used to be overbuilt tanks almost like old Thinkpads to flimsy garbage.
@@Billy_The_Frog 100%. Optical technically isn't mechanical actuation, but it feels sooo smooth and consistent. Let's not pretend this was anything other than a cost-cutting lie.
If I can give a bit of feedback about the graphs, like the one at 2:49, I feel layout of the graph could be improved by putting the name of the hardware (Havid KB487L) in the middle and placing the axis labels under it with a bit smaller font to help guide the eyes a bit (for example, giving a subtitle "force(grams) ↑ vs displacement(mm) →"). You can still put the labels next to the graph as well, but a I would make those a bit smaller as to not draw that much attention to them. Currently my eyes need to move quite a lot to find what I'm actually looking at. Also same for the labels "press" and "release": I feel they should be quite a bit smaller as they now the first things that draw the attention of the viewer. But those are my own two cents on it.
You can put a new ink cartridge in your HP printer, go flip the circuit breaker on and off 5 times over the course of 24 hours, and the HP printer’s ink head “maintenance” that runs each time the printer loses power and regains it will completely drain your cartridge without printing a single page. It’s borderline criminal.
Consumer grade HP products are generally garbage, but their enterprise grade stuff is actually pretty decent and easy to work with. I would be happy for one in a business, but I would never have one in my house.
Misinformation is the name of the game in the tech industry. I’m glad that we have people like Linus who don’t fall victim to the standard of business practices. Finally someone willing to expose them. Keep up the great work LMG❤️
Literally any tech shop you go to and ask for some tech product recommendation 99% of the time the sales guy has 0 clue of their products and just recommends the products that have high price
Labs is starting to show itself. I was sceptical about lab's, but fuck me that data is sexy and I now don't think I could buy a keyboard without it. Labs will be a behemoth.
I worked for HP tech support for 3 years. I had the best stats in my call center, so I was allowed to attend an actual meeting with HP big wigs discussing the future of their company. I told them to get into gaming products. this was back in 2004 or 5. they told me that was an awful idea. then months later they decided to do it. but they were so overpriced. they literally just took their consumer PC, added a stick of ram, a semi-good video card and added 1k to the cost. consumers weren't buying it. HP upper management is soooo out of touch
I'm sure you were the first and only person to ever suggest HP get involved in gaming. With the margins of the personal computer business, gaming is historically always a bad idea. Compaq knew this. HP knew this. The combined company sure knows it. There will be new generations of executives that wil learn for themselves and then know gaming personal computers is a money pit that will never work at large scale.
They arrived late to the party with the HyperX acquisition. And yes, HP upper management is still way out of touch, both in PCs and Printing. Source: also work for them.
HP companies' profit from all aspects of Israel's apartheid. Their role is similar to Polaroid's complicity with South Africa during apartheid. ATROCIOUS. DO NOT BUY HP.
The argument about "I only have 4 fingers and a thumb why would I need more then 6 buttons pressed at once" is irrelevant since they they claimed it's 10 and it doesn't do that which doesn't matter how much you need it's still false advertising
you know what would be sick? if LTT push’s the industry towards actually making great products that aren’t misleading by calling them out every time through the Lab.
And LTT is going to be rolling in the cash, LTT is going to have a line in everything tech that they tested and designed. That screw driver and backpack got them that lab.
This item was available in India and was the same price as other local mechanical keyboards (cosmic byte). Just because it was a product from a reputable brand, it sold more even with lower ratings and bad reviews. The reviews were fun to read though :)
@@AMANSINGH-yr5yg he was saying "this product" (so i'm assuming he meant the HP keyboard)... as compared to similar local keyboards like the cosmicbyte. if you compared the cosmic byte vs the hp, and went for the hp... then you fell for the scam.
The cosmicbyte is mechanical. Poorly built and has a really bad looking legend but it's still mechanical. I've replaced this with another HP, GK320. pulled a couple keycaps off before purchase, it is a genuine blue switch mechanical. Very loud though😂
For anyone buying mechanical keyboard in India, cosmic bytes are cheap yes but not really a good option, there are better options like rk84 but are more expensive. Pls avoid cosmic byte so that you won't have to throw it away in a year or 2.
I just tested the key rollover on my $34 Velocifire and I couldn't find a limit other than not being able to press both shift, ctrl, or alt keys at the same time. Plus it uses real mechanical switches. Just saying.
i sell computer products, 10% of that piece of shit stops working around 3-6 months - you got lucky, but be careful.. next time, if you can choose a "good brand"
@@j1tapper I doubt it's a stroke of luck when there are so many people that swear by Redragon's durability. Most of their mice suck badly, admittedly.
I like the inclusion and styling of the graphs from the lab data but I think it would be easier to parse if they showed the tests for different products at the same time. Graphs are great for showing comparisons between data. I could barely understand the latency graphs until you showed the latency graphs for the other two keyboards.
Don't you mean the displacement graphs? There is only one latency graph. The displacement graph is a measure of "pressure required" vs how far the key is pressed. For a linear switch the force required should be the same no matter how far the key is pressed. A curbed line suggests that the further you press the key the harder it becomes to press.
@@GentleWruzzPuppet They're box plots. The box is the first to third quartile and the top and bottom lines are the range. It took me forever to figure out as well because they're formatted so badly.
Doing like a full suite of Redragon product reviews would probably do the biggest favor to most consumers. I took the K552 pill recently and it's been an amazing keyboard so far, although I'm saying it as someone who's been living and breathing rubberdomes all my life.
I have the K556. Amazing keyboard. Aluminum top. Feels solid. Has num pad. Amazing back light. Brown switches (comes in red variant too) and you can switch to the type you like. I'm enjoying it alot
I have the K618 at work and love it. Plan to get another for home use. It may not be quite as good as the Logitech G915 but at 1/3 the price, it's a no brainer for me.
I have used membrane keyboard for 15 years, and when i finally decided to try out a mechanical one, sadly i ended up with this one. It was on sale, i got it really cheap, but something just felt off about it when i first used it, and now i know why. A month later spacebar died... thankfully i got my money back. I added a bit more and got logitech g413 which felt miles better. Its good linus is spreading awareness about it so people don't get scammed like i did, i actually thought i had a mechanical keyboard... i fell for it...
It’s crazy to see how far LTT has gone in terms of keyboard reviews, now that the lab is here. Compared to the GSkill cherry red keyboard review from a few years ago the production and testing quality have gone so far
I daily drove a Razer Ornata hybrid mech keyboard for years until it quite literally broke. I love the tactile sound and feel of a mech board, but that Ornata had the feel I liked, quick typing, and it wasn't deafeningly loud. Definitely my favorite hybrid keyboard I've used from a regular store bought brand.
I'm curious how much hp actually saved, if anything, by not using a standard mx style switch. I imagine the pcb and some cheaper switches from the likes of Greetech or Otemu couldn't be much more than a membrane pcb and a custom "switch" to make it look mechanical.
@@GuyGamer1 even when its only 5$ per keyboard its still worth it for them because they will sell at least a few thousand so like 5$ x 9321 keyboards = 46000$ extra profit for the rich CEO so he can use his private jet when he's flying to Paris to eat breakfast.
Had a k551 with blue switches for a few years, it held up pretty well but the cookies were fixed so I recently upgraded to a k580 with browns. Love it so far. Preference is absolutely right.
My friend got one of these, I honestly thought it was mechanical when he showed me over the phone, felt it once and could tell, sure was a shame that hp was being this sneaky
@@bobmarley2140 he doesn't really care that much considering he keeps his desktop backwards with the cables facing out and uses a super bad Logitech mouse from 10 years ago and it's a wireless one. New Logitech wires mice are like 5 bucks
@@chrisbarnard3946 Is a 10 year old functioning Logitech mouse even possible? Mine always broke right after their 2 years warranty period ended. The plastic mold would usually wear out, there where it touches the internal switch. Causing missed or double clicks at times. Have been using a Razer Atheris for the past 2 years, it's great besides requiring new batteries every three months...
@@timmy7201 idk it's pretty wild. I can feel the latency when I use it. He also likes turn based strategy games so they don't exactly need precise movements
I'm glad to see all of the data the lab can gather, I am also very thankful your team is making this happen. Thank you for giving solid data and great reviews all these years.
I ought this exact Havit keyboard a couple of months ago. And, I was honestly very impressed. Yes, it has flaws and shortcomings, but for the price I paid (35-40$ CAD), It's miles better than some more expensive mechanical keyboards I've tried that were between 70-90$. Plus, it fits my whole rig's color scheme of orange and black I do still believe that, building your own mechanical keyboard is much better and a great project that doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg
wow... this one hits close to home. I also bought this keyboard and returned it in a heartbeat after experiencing how bad it was... Ended up getting the G512 Carbon.
@@luis_lantano The thing is it isn't even that cheap. It's essentially a $5 keyboard pretending to be a $50 keyboard, but of course it's HP and as usual they are scamming customers just like they did with my laptop, HP is really a shit company
@@luis_lantano The problem is that it isn't a mechanical keyboard, and you would be better off buying a membrane at a cheaper price and saving up for something better. Of course you thought it was a good price but that was only because of HP's false advertising.
@@triadwarfare Nah. GX Brown (the only one left in the store), but thank you for that explanation. My brother has another keyboard (not the same one) and it does double click a lot. Now I know a possible cause.
I chose the Logitech G413 for my dad, because the brown tactile mechanical switches are PERFECT with their high required actuating force for my dad’s Parkinson’s hands (people with Parkinson’s tend to get tics in their hands where their hands constantly flap around). He can bang on that keyboard till the cows come home, and it will take that punishment and more! And that also means he doesn’t have to worry so much about mis-typing stuff, as the higher resistance means he can press harder to press the keys down, so he doesn’t have to worry about a stray hand flap bashing a wrong key as often.
thank you for shouting out the rhythm gamers!! back in the day on garbo keyboards, i thought i was just bad at mania games- surprised to learn it was likely (mostly) rollover! thanks for the interesting and informative video as always!
Unpopular opinion, I actually enjoy Apples new Magic Keyboard. Yes it is overpriced, and no I’m not an Apple simp, I just genuinely enjoy typing on it compared to most other keyboards I’ve tried, then again it may be because I’ve been typing on apple most of my life, but even after trying a plethora of different keyboards I just enjoy the combination of, light, thin, and the use of good quality materials, that and Touch ID is really useful, I can securely log in and out with one button.
Like 10 years ago I got my first mechanical, a CM Storm. The switches were soldered, and that caused one of the keys to blow out the substrate. Was able to solder a wire across the previously connected pins and it's been working flawlessly since. Instantly made me a mechanical keyboard fan for life.
I've had multiple devastator sets, and I very briefly had a storm. Great gear for the price, and if I return to being a daytime person I'll most likely get a storm again.
"hybrid-mechanical" keyboards are just a scam made by big tech to mark up cheap keyboards as "gamer". Most of the time they use the same PCB boards the office keyboards and slap some fake switches and LEDs on top. Straight up marketing BS that's nearly false advertising.
The force graph claim is interesting. Even linear switches can have a curved force curve because some switches uses a progressive or even a dual stage spring that have harder bottom outs the further you go.
@@stclaws9580 linear simply means that there is no perceptible tactile "bump" when pressing down on the switch. the only other two switch types are tactile (with the bump) and clicky (with an audible click).
@@stclaws9580 yeah I agree with what Elmo said. It’s simply a tactility term. It’s not to characterize the springs behavior. If you try different premium switches in the custom world you will feel a difference when comparing these types of springs
yep that was my first "mechanical" keyboard. Returned it the day after. I remember it actually blocked the spacebar when you held two directional keys at the same time (WASD not arrows) which meant you couldn't jump while moving diagonally in games all thanks to it's amazing anti-ghosting feature!
Damn, i dont remember that i ever suffering keyboard ghosting issues in any game i ever played even on integrated keyboard on cheap non gaming laptop i used to have long time a go, what an overpriced piece of 💩
Honestly, sometimes it is hard to wrap your head around how HP does business. Their office / work line-up is generally good, but their budget and gaming lines are just failures. The only reason I wouldn't call it trash is because Dell and Acer exist.
6:54 Thats because X-key rollover (excluding N-key), is based on zones, and hitting many in one zone will disable the rest while still allowing keys outside that zone. Worse yet, the zone layouts are not standardised, and whatever the manufacturer decided on
To elaborate on zones a bit, they are statistically derived based on workflow... But what workflow? Who knows. Chances are it's not gaming, and whether it is something you actually do, unless this machine is sitting in an office you likely multitask. Good luck when you find a program you use a lot is particularly affected. For the handful of zone layouts actually informed by game input, they appear to have bodged that on top of an existing zone based design, losing any real benefits. N-key solves all of this, and there really is no excuse at this point as the cost difference in mass production would be hard to even calculate with any confidence.
i honestly won the mechanical keyboard jackpot, bought a dirty razer blackwidow chroma call of duty, i also got a glorious model o and a neewer mic. FOR ONLY 27$
I was recently in the market for a cheap mech keyboard, and this was being promoted on Amazon. I look for reviews, and surprisingly I couldn't find any review of it from the usual cheap keeb review channels, so finally went with the redragon. After seeing this video, glad I did!
Are you in India? I wanted to specifically find this keyboard just to see a listing for it. I specifically had to go to HP India and Amazon India just to see it online. Its from the Pavilion gaming line, something we don't get in North America. Here we only get Omen or Victus (part of Omen).
@@matthewjbauer1990 hey, yes I'm referring to Indian Amazon here. Interesting! Pavillion isn't considered "gaming" here too, it's usually the go-to laptop range for first year college students - cheap and from a known brand
Having experienced many, many HP keyboards throughout my office life, I think I have a solution. Governments just need to come together and agree HP shouldn't be allowed to call anything "gaming" anymore. They clearly can't be trusted with the word.
I could have told you it was fake without even finishing the video. Usually when HP makes a genuinely decent keyboard, it's typically sold under their OMEN division.
I would like to add, the LTC nimbleback is also a great option. It is completely hot swappable, and around the 50 dollar mark... It's full mechanical, and feels and sounds great. I have been daily driving mine for a little over a year, and i am in love with it. If I decide i dont like the sound of the switches, i just swap them out for something else. I currently run mine with a set of silver speed switches. It sounds great, and the key presses are responsive.
And me rocking my Microsoft Sidewinder X4 keyboard. It's missing a foot and the W is flaking off. But it's silent and has a red backlight so I'm happy.
The Razer Ornata Chroma is a "Hybrid Mechanical" that works very similar. It's a mechanical top with membrane under. I tried it out a couple years ago when looking for keyboards, and it sounded like an interesting notion. After feeling the mechanical part's switch engage occurs, you still have to press down even further for it to contact the membrane. It has an awkwardly delayed response because of this. Typing is extremely annoying because there is a visual lag from how it actuates. Gaming is near impossible because the travel distance is deceiving with that click to finally pressing the membrane difference. 1/10 do not recommend. Only giving it the one because it was funny to see other people try to use it and notice something was off. Replaced it with something else.
@@CoolJosh3k I have had relatively decent experiences with all of my Razer products and that includes the Blade. However, I do still remember that camera debacle.
I do think actually conceptually the Ornata is worse. It has no mechanical bits beyond the keycap having a nub that hits against a clicker that generates minimal, if any, tactility. The clicker really is just there to make noise, to give the illusion of being mechanical, that's all, the Ornatas are just rubber dome keyboards. Also, some mechanicals can use a membrane and there have been slider over dome (like Topre) and spring over membrane deaigns (like Oki switches, or even buckling springs) that did work and were still able to actuate part-way. The problem is bizarrely HP tried to mash the two together and thought they needed a dome that shouldn't been there, by having the red linear slider directly plunge into the dome instead of directly onto the membrane, making it a mushy and crappy experience. Then again spring/slider over membrane sucks for linears too due to the need to bottom out unless done intelligently. Even buckling springs only had a flipper that then hit the membrane rather than being directly over a membrane, and Topre is capactive to be able to actuate part way and has no membrane.
@@bbking006 Apparently some of their products are okay, but way too many that die young due to cheap internal parts. It is the kind of company that relies on marketing instead of product quality.
@@CoolJosh3k Absolutely. I had to replace the bulging battery on a $4000 machine thrice in 3 years and also made 2 fan replacements. No attention or caring paid to details.
Thank you for your work advocating for consumers! Tech feels like one of those places, where companies feel they can get away with lying because so many consumers lack the knowledge. It's amazing to see an account with such wide reach calling them out.
super interesting to see this video against that "Sh!t manufacturers say" on the mem-chanical keyboard with luke. hadn't thought about it but having so many more people in the office gives you so many more people to do the side-by-side comparison than just having luke come in vlog-style.
I have a Tecware Phantom L TKL which has the slightly better Outemu low-profile browns than the equivalent Havit keyboard with low-profile Kailh switches. Best buy for a $30 tactile 👌
@@handlemonium Honestly, the fact that you can get a decent mechanical keyboard for so low is just shocking to me. There's absolutely no reason for membrane keyboards to even exist at this point.
@@nemtudom5074 Yep and full-size Keychron C2 tactiles are going for $60-$80. My guess as to why membranes still exist is profit cuz it almost definitely costs only $10-$15 to make them but Big Tech can dish em' out en-masse for $20-$30 a pop. Sure I guess the "90% of people don't care enough about keyboard feel" argument still stands, but why reduce your bottom line when you can rake in 35-45% via membranes in profit instead of only 20-30%?
I actually really like the Razer Ornata ("mecha-mechanical") ((caveat: for the price)). It's outdated, and there's better in its price range now, but a few years ago it was a good product. Razer's annoying software notwithstanding...
Oh, a belated thank you to the LTT community regarding mechanical keyboards. This was where I learned that Outemu switches had smaller pins, and where I could find a compatible switch alternative (Akko) for my board. I'm using Akko "Sponge" alternatives to the brown switches in a K556-RK, and it has been fantastic.
Bought a 122-key IBM Model M keyboard years ago and it's been my main keyboard ever since. Buckling springs are glorious to use and it's such a massive keyboard. I absolutely love it.
I have two, one at home and one at work. I've gotten a lot of comments about it at work, my keyboard is older than a lot of the people I work with! And it's such a big, solid thing in a pinch it can be used as a blunt object!
I have one given to me by my dad when he worked for IBM as a repair tech. I have some spares, but I still use the same "M" one. The PS/2 port fully supports N-key rollover, so online games where you can literally be pressing 5 keys at once for an instant when running diag and need to jump and/or change weapon.
Well these lies ain't really a surprise, the keyboard's box and marketing photos shows that it should have ATL-keys next to spacebar, and it doesn't even have those!
Linus, I'm an old guy who when I first found your channel years ago, I was like "this guy got this part wrong!" Here we are years later and now your schooling me. I never knew the term "key rollover"! Finally I know the name of what used to grind my butt playing quake or doom on particularly bad keyboards in the 90s. Thank you. Channel has come a long way.
I made a mechanical keyboard from the scratch using cherry browns, a teensyduino 2.0 and 3D printed everything else. I also had to program the code that runs on the Arduino myself. My design has a 6 key roll over, fully programable, RGB lights and you can even code your keyboard to do complicated mouse and keyboard actions with a press of a button. The whole thing costed me just under $50. It is the size of an envelope, has 58 keys and have been running flawlessly for the past 4 years. So I am proud to say I make better mechanical keyboards than HP!
Love the stats. Consider using violin plots instead of boxplots. Same principle, but it's a superior method of conveying all the same data plus some additional underlying information about the actual distribution of the raw data itself.
Just wanted to say, great work to the Linus team. I believe you guys are improving and innovating your content and that goes great lengths to help responsibly-educate anyone who’s exposed to your content. Caught myself writing few pages length of what I mean, but just know, I appreciate how well-written and responsible the channel is. Good job everybody at Linus. This is important work. 🙏🏽
I was building my PC a few months ago and almost bought this keyboard. Good thing I've decided to read some reviews and ended up getting a pretty decent hybrid keyboard from Cougar for the same price
It has a mechanical actuation and a membrane, as the marketing said. I wouldn't say lies, just misleading because it is not mechanical in the way costumers would expect.
Hey LTT, You were talking about Rollover in the rhythm game scene which reminded me of a very annoying fact a lot of us face, NKRO is actually bad for precisely timed inputs due to limitations in the USB-protocol causing us to prefer 6 or even 4 KRO. It's hard to find good mechanical keyboards that meet this requirement. It might make an interesting video to analyze the delays the different kinds of rollover introduce, it'd go wild in the rhythm game community if you guys did a video!
I literally bought this keyboard at a thrift shop for $4 and thought I found an amazing deal only to get it home and realize it's not mech. honestly, if there were pressure differential offset springs... tactile release to bottom out, it might be serviceable
I actually loved my Mecha-Membrane Razer Ornata. I’ve given up MX Brown, Gatheron Red and Gatheron Silver keyboards for it. But the way it’s mecha-membrane is that it had the actual metal push bar, I don’t really know how to call it properly but it was guiding the key. So it had the resistance profile similar to Blue keys, without being super noisy, had much lower profile and was not kinda swallowing down on press (I actually don’t mind rubber mushiness if done properly). It’s a bad keyboard overall but the concept made sense. This case with a spring I’m not sure it makes any sense.
Loved this video. I agree with other comments about the value of calling companies out on their BS. On another note, I'm suprised the venerable Model M did not show face in this episode! No harm done. I was waiting for it though. :D
oh yeeeess! i bought this keyboard like two years ago, with the intention to mod it and solder on some other switches. imagine my disappointment when i took it apart and i saw rubber domes under what looked like just basic clone red switches. 😂
Membrane keyboards fill an important gap that mechanical keyboards can't, and I think it's important to highlight the actual reasons why you'd choose one. First the membrane helps protect against spills, having less functional components makes them more reliable (not less), they are often a lot easier to clean, they are a lot quieter (important for the workplace) and they tend to be cheap. I use a Corsair K55 membrane keyboard and it's brilliant for what it does. I'd never game on it, but for coding it's the perfect compromise.
