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343 Industries Raises Customization Pricing. 

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@jacksonjohnson8415
@jacksonjohnson8415 11 месяцев назад
There’s a lawsuit against Walmart right now for marking up sales prices to be previous non-discounted prices in order to deceive customers. The exact way 343 is doing it.
@panchohalo2158
@panchohalo2158 11 месяцев назад
Huh, that's funny. A store I used to work at did the exact thing but with some clearance items.
@ethancannoy
@ethancannoy 11 месяцев назад
Yep! According to the FTC, products can only display a price comparison (e.g. sale) if the original price was broadly available to the public for an extended period of time. Walmart is trying to get away with marking up prices in one remote store for a year so they can say it’s “on sale” every where else. 343 here is just straight up illegally comparing price. You can’t use a future higher price to claim a discount exists. They could say “but it now before the price increases” though.
@hersh511
@hersh511 11 месяцев назад
That’s what I was thinking. It’s literally illegal to do that.
@SavageSenzu
@SavageSenzu 11 месяцев назад
Amazon does it as well. Especially for Black Friday and prime day.
@Carpediem357
@Carpediem357 11 месяцев назад
@@ethancannoy except that only applies to third party meaning if it was Walmart owned IPs them hiking up prices more than the discount or orignal is perfectly legal but if it's say Apple watches at Walmart being $400 and the new discount price or sale price is $600 then yes it's illegal but because 343 themsleves are in charge of the shop not a independant third party company it is perfectly legal in the FTC laws
@17Haru17
@17Haru17 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate you calling out the obvious corporate lies. Fixing customization items that didn’t work does not entitle Microsoft to raise the prices even more.
@bradriggan
@bradriggan 11 месяцев назад
Respectfully, you are not entitled to decide what Microsoft charges. It’s not your game. If you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. That is how capitalism works.
@jessejive117
@jessejive117 11 месяцев назад
First of all that’s not a lie. Second, they can charge whatever they want for anything outside of somehting life saving and there’s such a massive power dynamic such as life saving medicine and you needing to buy it and willing to spend whatever. It’s cosmetics dude. You have an entire massive multiplayer game that’s free to play. Games 20 years ago didn’t even have cosmetics for the most part lol they’re fun to unlock and I wish they were all in game and we could just pay $60. At the same time video games are still the same price they were about 15 or 20 years ago but the budgets are like 10 times higher. People ignore all the extra they get from video games without paying extra and then they focus on what they are losing..
@jessejive117
@jessejive117 11 месяцев назад
@@bradrigganexactly. But most of these people are actually Marxist. Not communist but they think like communist.
@spartanvenom5388
@spartanvenom5388 11 месяцев назад
It’s like if Hasbro charged more for a Transformer simply because they decided to NOT paint over the eyes of a head with light piping.
@burddog0792
@burddog0792 11 месяцев назад
Except everything worked fine, and now they are adding value to it. A skin which was originally advertised and sold for one core will now work on all cores, increasing its value. I know all you people love playing victim, but that's how it works.
@joeverkill9086
@joeverkill9086 11 месяцев назад
Halo community: We want cross-core! 343: We hear you. (Monkey's paw curls)
@joerowland2625
@joerowland2625 11 месяцев назад
The halo Infinite store is controlled by Microsoft Not 343 343 are good as shown by Season 5 which was amazing
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 11 месяцев назад
@@joerowland2625 Everything halo is controlled by microsoft not 343
@Ronin-42
@Ronin-42 11 месяцев назад
xD this made me chuckle
@JeffHikari
@JeffHikari 11 месяцев назад
I remember playing Armored Core, going into the paint menu, seeing all the freedom you have for your color scheme and decals, and just laughing thinking about how much modern games would charge for the 'privilege" of freely customizing a color scheme with RGB sliders..
@drewkehoe1805
@drewkehoe1805 11 месяцев назад
Bless fromsoft
@RuSsHeR1
@RuSsHeR1 11 месяцев назад
Single player game vs live service game. Apples and oranges.
@Manofwar701
@Manofwar701 11 месяцев назад
​@@RuSsHeR1Doesn't matter. Especially with how bad this game has been handled.
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 11 месяцев назад
Praise the Fromsoft!
@JamesTDG
@JamesTDG 11 месяцев назад
Rushher, you definitely never played Halo Reach when it came out. We saw MP customization in the campaign, and we unlocked cosmetics purely from hard work. The customization was epic and felt rewarding.
@Zeta1127
@Zeta1127 11 месяцев назад
The prices of cosmetics are out of hand at this point. One bundle shouldn't cost a third of the campaign and as much as a battle pass or more. There are several things I would love to get from the shop, but I cannot justify these prices.
@avis21X
@avis21X 11 месяцев назад
EXACTLY! You know shit is shady when bundles cost more than the Battle Pass 😬
@sylxeria
@sylxeria 11 месяцев назад
I remember these 'Dragon Guns' in... Valorant was it? Set was like a hundred something. Yeah, custom models and unique reloading animations, but goodness.
@arcadius3257
@arcadius3257 11 месяцев назад
Then stop buying this shit. Its easy to whine like entitled brats but the players are the reason why these things exist in the first place, criticism is worthless when players will still buy this shit anyway.
@dylangaletti395
@dylangaletti395 11 месяцев назад
Diablo 4 is just as bad with their cosmetic prices and battle passes and that isn't even a free game. This shit is 100% out of hand. There is no excuse for a cosmetic bundle to cost about a quarter of what gets paid for the game, I don't care if it's a free game either. No cosmetic on planet earth should cost 20+ dollars. Cosmetics have no business costing more than 5 dollars.
@arcadius3257
@arcadius3257 11 месяцев назад
@@dylangaletti395 They cost that much because you donuts keep buying them. Whining isnt going to change shit, not buying it will.
@theconfidentchicken3414
@theconfidentchicken3414 11 месяцев назад
343 really is missing a huge opportunity with the individual item purchase, where they could have it be that the bundles are part of the sale, for example say you want a helmet, you could buy it for 200 credits without the rest of the bundle, but if the rest of the bundle interests you, that 200 credit helmet now costs 100 credits in the bundle
@maxmikester8185
@maxmikester8185 11 месяцев назад
Problem is the Microsoft wants to make sure people are spending huge amounts of money, and individual purchases would incentivize smaller purchases which hurts the people up top, and said people up top will pull a bungie and lay off people.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica 11 месяцев назад
EA did this with Apex. The change in purchases was minimal. It’s a nice idea on paper, one I personally like, but it’s never going to happen.
@Dylan-xx2tk
@Dylan-xx2tk 11 месяцев назад
@@maxmikester8185I dunno, I think that's sort of irrelevant considering 343 has already been hit with layoffs after layoffs. So it's less of MS "pulling a Bungie" and more... MS just being MS.
@sergioacevedo2254
@sergioacevedo2254 11 месяцев назад
Miss the old days of Halo 3 giving you armour for certain in-game achievements as opposed to pulling out your wallet or from repetitively grinding matches like in Reach.
@G0DKILLER_
@G0DKILLER_ 11 месяцев назад
I think the grind in reach was a bit much, but it did feel super rewarding
@jlb9577
@jlb9577 11 месяцев назад
Literally had this same conversation with my pals tonight. I miss those days. Even Reach as grindy as it was, if you put the time in you could unlock stuff.
@Blanktester685
@Blanktester685 11 месяцев назад
reach was barley a grind lol ive nearly unlocked everything within 6 months lol, some of halo 3 armor wasn't even obtainable by 90% of the player base until odst.
@revan5293
@revan5293 11 месяцев назад
I miss halo 3 and reach customization.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi 10 месяцев назад
@@Connor8609 Or, or, hear me out, we pay 60-80 bucks to get the whole game, a couple years of free updates, and then a couple years of support until a new title, like we used to before this bullshit
@brokenlegend1179
@brokenlegend1179 11 месяцев назад
Bro fixing an issue that was a core component shouldn't justify raising prices, thank you for doing this 🙏
@novaleader7305
@novaleader7305 11 месяцев назад
I'll be happy when I'm not top 3 for 20 matches doing all the objectives and still loosing
@akshatghoshal6098
@akshatghoshal6098 11 месяцев назад
same they need to fix the matchmaking. Last season I was top 1 in my team for 7 games in succesion for ranked. Still lost more than half. At first I thought it was bad luck but they pair u with bad players if your doing good
@novaleader7305
@novaleader7305 11 месяцев назад
@@akshatghoshal6098 I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it, I really don't want to be that guy that calls my teammates shit, but god damm half my matches this season are just so unfun
@makotoyuki9498
@makotoyuki9498 11 месяцев назад
⁠@@novaleader7305SBMM is to blame for that, it practically says that you can carry the team and matches you into unfair matches. Basically you are set to lose and keep losing until it throws you a bone and you can win a few.
@jfreed5040
@jfreed5040 11 месяцев назад
My win rate went from 47% last season to 18% this season and I’m not playing any differently. I’m taking some time away from the game, it’s too frustrating.
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu 11 месяцев назад
Unless you're working a challenge based on wins, being a high performer on a losing team is actually better. SBMM punishes you for winning. Performing well on overall ass teams is ideal for career rank progression.
@blizzardgaming7070
@blizzardgaming7070 11 месяцев назад
Not to mention how all the flood armour is paywalled except for a single chest attachment for a single core which was certainly only added so people can't say "All of it is paywalled." They have done this (not quite to the same extent) for EVERY SINGLE EVENT.
@Alpha_Runaway
@Alpha_Runaway 11 месяцев назад
The kit at the end of the pass in all honesty if they are hellbent on giving ONE free flood item away, the kit should have been the free part. Just the chest piece sucks. My little brother is a strictly free to play player and he’s been happy all season 4, when he saw the flood he was excited and now he’s disappointed. Really sucks
@mrpancake8889
@mrpancake8889 11 месяцев назад
I mean I get where you are coming from but you get two sets of flood armor from the battle pass, it’s really not that terrible. The shop sucks though.
@pandorin2348
@pandorin2348 11 месяцев назад
@@mrpancake8889yea. For a no lives.
@mrpancake8889
@mrpancake8889 11 месяцев назад
@@pandorin2348 what
@blizzardgaming7070
@blizzardgaming7070 11 месяцев назад
@@pandorin2348 what are you trying to say?
@josh_lv4268
@josh_lv4268 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for always covering this kind of stuff, Minty. Raising the price is just silly! Especially for older bundles.
@babylonbombs5273
@babylonbombs5273 11 месяцев назад
@Mint Blitz you really know whats going on in the halo community I like that 👍
@zenlis1291
@zenlis1291 11 месяцев назад
knowing the growing disease "free2shop syndrome" within AAA companies, 343 would probably just eventually let you buy individual gear, but increase the price of everything to at least 1000. making the bundles themselves around 5-6 thousand in game currency.
@joerowland2625
@joerowland2625 11 месяцев назад
The halo Infinite store is controlled by Microsoft Not 343 343 are good as shown by Season 5 which was amazing
@trashjash
@trashjash 11 месяцев назад
​@@joerowland2625 You're a little too quick to trust. Someone's gonna take advantage of you if after a decade of them behaving badly, then suddenly they behave good for a couple weeks makes you think they're entirely reformed and changed for the better. I'm happy with Season 5 so far, besides the MTX shop being terrible more than usual, but 343i has a little while longer to go to show they've actually reformed to give Halo fans what we want rather than a twisted version of what they interpret as Halo. Besides, these prices are determined by 343i's financial team, and 343 pulled the trigger on implementing them in the store. I don't care if Phil Spencer himself demanded these prices, at the end of the day 343 implemented them to our detriment.
@elliottb7009
@elliottb7009 11 месяцев назад
you know they will make the price 100 currency units short of the bundle so you will need to buy the next tier bundle. " 1000 currency - $10, 2000 currency $20 . armour cost 1100.
@Poliswag7
@Poliswag7 11 месяцев назад
I never planned on buying anything from the shop because why would I spend my hard earned money on digital cosmetics, but this is still egregious.
@Cognitoman
@Cognitoman 11 месяцев назад
Same I’m still wearing default armor, it’s boring because I wanna earn it
@SixPickles6644
@SixPickles6644 11 месяцев назад
I payed like 10 dollars toward the battle passes, and it gives me plenty of cosmetics, no need to buy the bundles
@ArteriusSaren
@ArteriusSaren 11 месяцев назад
​@@SixPickles6644same thing, but it's common practice at least CoD and Halo return you investment, while R6 doesn't.
@JamesTDG
@JamesTDG 11 месяцев назад
EXACTLY! I was excited to be able to create the ultimate version of my spartan post-launch, but it just turned me off being unable to have basic cosmetics like he EOD for free. I want to be able to not HAVE to pay a dime to get any cosmetic. Krunker figured it out long ago, so why TF can't they do that here?!
@jessejive117
@jessejive117 11 месяцев назад
That’s a egregious to you, huh 😂 you guys need to get out in the real world or study just a little history. Ohhhh. What a human rights violation? The digital cosmetics for a video game price increased some lol
@hughjanus7379
@hughjanus7379 11 месяцев назад
Isn't it illegal to sell an item and list it as "on sale" when it's actually the same price it was before? 343 is pretty much asking for a class-action lawsuit if that's true.
@TheWehzy
@TheWehzy 11 месяцев назад
Yes, its 100% illegal in EU. They're awful humans and scammers.
@16BitKamek
@16BitKamek 11 месяцев назад
They already don't allow refunds, especially if you accidentally buy something. Epic was sued for so much money for that reason for Fortnite
@Carpediem357
@Carpediem357 11 месяцев назад
if it were third party in charge of the shop yes but not if 343 are in charge of the shop
@joerowland2625
@joerowland2625 11 месяцев назад
​@@Carpediem357The halo Infinite store is controlled by Microsoft Not 343 343 are good as shown by Season 5 which was amazing
@Carpediem357
@Carpediem357 11 месяцев назад
@@joerowland2625 it's controlled by 343i not MS. It doesn't matter if 343 have done good rn this is on them not MS. The store is 343s thus it's 343s fault let's not defend 343 for the Ls they've taken this season
@THETEXASMEATMAN
@THETEXASMEATMAN 11 месяцев назад
I’ve only ever bought the Anubis set from the shop. It’s one of my favorite armor sets. But damn 10-20 bucks for armor is stupid.
@DivineHellas
@DivineHellas 11 месяцев назад
A true Egyptian
@realdwarf-hp5pd
@realdwarf-hp5pd 10 месяцев назад
"This thing is dumb, yet I am part of the reason that this thing exists"
@robertadams1558
@robertadams1558 11 месяцев назад
Halo needs an in game currency to buy all items in the shop
@Hashy84
@Hashy84 11 месяцев назад
YES!
@illuviumgamer
@illuviumgamer 11 месяцев назад
Like credits that you can buy and use for items/battle pass? 👀
@Glacial_floofs
@Glacial_floofs 11 месяцев назад
like reach and/or 5 lots of people will probably hate that I brought up 5. but c'mon! after two matches of husky raid, you could get enough points for a silver pack
@Huntist7
@Huntist7 11 месяцев назад
Like halo reach
@Solotocius
@Solotocius 11 месяцев назад
Yeah but then what would be the game's source of income? It's F2P after all.
@Sierra2S9
@Sierra2S9 11 месяцев назад
I swear to god it's like every time they do enough good shit to get me to start playing again, they immediatly do something scummy to make me stop.
@airsoos
@airsoos 11 месяцев назад
This isn't the first time they tried to increase the prices as well. I remember when everybody (rightfully) made a big stink about armour being sold for over 2000+ credits so they dropped the price for most sets for most sets, then a couple months later they tried raising by a couple hundred credits to basically test if the community is willing to pay that much. Vote with your wallets and keep talking about this because nothing is gonna change if we don't say anything
@thunderslug1066
@thunderslug1066 11 месяцев назад
At least that was releasing new, more expensive bundles, this is retroactive price hikes!
@jessejive117
@jessejive117 11 месяцев назад
Yea. Vote with your wallet. If it’s too expensive don’t buy it. Y’all don’t need it.
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu 11 месяцев назад
And incidentally, that goes for the upcoming Mk5 kit too. One, the whole 'kits" concept is a bad value proposition. If I want to mix the helmet, shoulders and chest of mk5 with the utility, wrist and knees of something else, that should be an option. Snot being able to do that significantly detracts from how valuable I find the content for sale. Two, given the interest in this item, they're likely to try selling it for at least as much, if not more, than the flood kit that's up this week for 2200. If I see this thing priced any higher than 1500, I'm skipping it.
@_The_Specter_
@_The_Specter_ 11 месяцев назад
tbh i dont really care about cosmetics, but i wish 343 would lower the price down as well. or, at the very least, add more stuff into the bundles to make it worth the price
@doootuz
@doootuz 11 месяцев назад
This is probably a micro$oft decision
@RokushoTheRavager
@RokushoTheRavager 11 месяцев назад
As if that makes a difference. You're still getting screwed, doesn't really matter whose actually screwing you.
@Halofan9233
@Halofan9233 11 месяцев назад
I think they should 110% make it so people can buy singular pieces to build their perfect spartan. I found myself in this situation a couple of times where I wanted a specific armor coating or a specific helmet but I had to buy a whole bundle to get it and everything is way too overpriced. For example I saw a weapon coating for 850 credits. A SINGULAR WEAPON COATING.
@pologd9175
@pologd9175 11 месяцев назад
Mint you've hit the nail on the head with the bundle split. Since cross core I've found a fair few items I'd like to buy but when opened up in the store been put off by having to pay 2200 for a whole bundle when I just want an armour colour! I'd have probably bought near on 2500 worth of individual items if they'd split them up 500 each, but as it stands I've currently spent 0. Also really irritating there are still some previous season items that can't be bought. At least two I would pay for if they were available!
@psykology9299
@psykology9299 11 месяцев назад
If 343 wants to raise their revenue they should price their store at a more attractive cost. Increasing the prices just drives more people away from buying cosmetics
@Kyle_Schaff
@Kyle_Schaff 11 месяцев назад
You don’t have the backend numbers to support your argument. F2p games tend to get supported primarily by whales who drop hundreds+ each
@psykology9299
@psykology9299 11 месяцев назад
@Kyle_Schaff whats better? 10 people buying your 30 dollar armour kit or 2000 people buying your 1 dollar armour kit?
@Kyle_Schaff
@Kyle_Schaff 11 месяцев назад
@@psykology9299 I’ll repeat myself. We do not have the backend data to say these things. The corpo suits behind these decisions are literally *only* good for finding ways to squeeze as much money out of the product as they can. It’s the sole reason for their employment and astronomical salary. If they have determined that high prices makes the corpo more money even if they sell fewer items overall, they’ll do it in a heartbeat because they’re machine people with spreadsheet thinking. You arrogantly doubt their calculations because you know better about the game and community, but that hardly plays any role in the kind of math they engage in As Mint said, tons of these customizations are actually selling. I remember the $20 (can’t remember exact price) shiny gold paint that was outrageous at the time and Mint made a video about it, but I saw everyone wearing it. Now, at least a few people every game wear the $20+ infection bundle stuff. It’s seemingly working, so they have no incentive to not keep making it worse for us-especially as the game itself gets better and attracts more players This kind of thinking has consumed those at the top of modern gaming and is a *major* contributing factor to how the hobby has developed into the predatory mess it is today. As long as the money keeps flowing, there is no way they’ll doubt their decisions
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi 10 месяцев назад
@@psykology9299 Unfortunately, that's likely not how it works
@gamecubeslayer
@gamecubeslayer 11 месяцев назад
I’ve said this before on Twitter but credits should be part of the weekly ultimate reward So even if they were to do reruns of items it would still incentivize players who already have those items to still play for some credits even it’s only like 50 it’d be better than nothing And slowly but surely people could buy things they actually wanted in the shop Of course this method would work better if 343 allowed us to buy individual items but sadly I don’t see that ever happening
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
You're right, but that is in the past unfortunately. We used to earn stuff as part of the game, it used to be reasonably priced, it used to be fair. Call of Duty and Halo have both become hellish whale fishing systems hiding behind a game. Things need to change.
@Bagginsess
@Bagginsess 11 месяцев назад
@@Buglin_Burger7878but a lot of f2p games allow ungodly grinds for cosmetics that you can purchase.
@colejones8471
@colejones8471 11 месяцев назад
Everyone knows, the price of a framed painting goes up based on how many walls in your house there are
@murkadelic422
@murkadelic422 11 месяцев назад
I said this in Season 3. They could make all individual pieces a category: helmets, shoulders, chests, etc. Make a base price per rarity of the item (actually giving the rarity system a purpose), and have an event/special category for things that are timed or for new seasons. Make your money through volume instead of price.
@CptainMajor
@CptainMajor 11 месяцев назад
they would make everything legendary and make youvpay 10$ for a helmet..
@murkadelic422
@murkadelic422 11 месяцев назад
@pooldead9231 but if they were smart, they could profit tenfold what they are now. $2 for basic pieces, $3 for rare, $5-6 for legendary. The sheer number of individual pieces is insane and giving the entire populace the option to specifically choose for each core, they'd make a shit ton more vs selling whole bundles for 30-40 bucks
@CptainMajor
@CptainMajor 11 месяцев назад
@@murkadelic422 and then tjey would make everything on legendary raritu.. rarity that have 0 sense here becauqe rarity is for looting games. here its just made up. ugly stuff is common but sexy stuff is legendary. thats why the base helmet for mk7 its bot the actual mk7 helmet but the cavallo.. cause mk7 was too good to be the base helmet for them..
@murkadelic422
@murkadelic422 11 месяцев назад
@@CptainMajor that's the "if they're smart" part of my first comment, my guy.
@CptainMajor
@CptainMajor 11 месяцев назад
@@murkadelic422 yeah but you know they are not 🤣
@ZenkaiGoose
@ZenkaiGoose 11 месяцев назад
Just don't buy it? If no one buys it, the price will decrease, no? It's actually more impactful in a F2P game if you don't buy.
@ShadowsOfReach
@ShadowsOfReach 11 месяцев назад
I get an itching sensation MS is behind this and are holding 343's arm behind their back. Would explain why -this time- they actually replied
@HoodRed69
@HoodRed69 11 месяцев назад
It's both of them obviously stop making excuses for developers they are in on it too
@RokushoTheRavager
@RokushoTheRavager 11 месяцев назад
Doesn't honestly matter whose fault it is when it's the completely on-brand for every big AAA Multi-player game. Considering every big game is monetized to hell and back, I don't rightly give a damn who the culprit is, I'm just fuking tired of it and completely apathetic at this point. I won't just not spend money in the shop, I simply just won't participate or play the game at all because it doesn't deserve my time, when the companies clearly don't value my time or my loyalty.
@private1177
@private1177 11 месяцев назад
id love to get the transgressor armor. it looks dope. but 20€ for a single armor. not gonna happen. 10 would be ok. but not 20. you can get a decently good indie game for this. nah. also yeah would love to buy single pieces from bundles for like 2€ per piece
@Psychoh90
@Psychoh90 11 месяцев назад
I would also add that given the state of Halo population, 343 should think twice before comparing themselves with Fortnite/apex and so on. A few thousand compared with I believe 5millions of Fortnite. You should do everything you can to get more people into the game feel welcomed. And don’t let me start with SBMM. It’s a free to play, it is not going well (better than before, way better). Keep up the excellent work in the past 9months, don’t mess it up. You still have not won anything but a few thousand players.
@Parsons360
@Parsons360 11 месяцев назад
I could swear that whole 'Sale' price thing is borderline illegal? I am pretty sure there are current lawsuits regarding this.
@elliottb7009
@elliottb7009 11 месяцев назад
correction. in aus you cannot sell an item " on sale or special price" if the price is not a sale or special price. there may be a grey area if a bundle is 2000 but sale 1200 with every other non sale item 1200.
@woodsgump
@woodsgump 11 месяцев назад
I totally agree with you 100% Remy, we should be able to earn in-game credits besides the BattlePass. Follow what Fortnite does with its currency and how they utilize their shops. I wish it was more user friendly instead of predatory standards. I’m just saving a lot of Microsoft Rewards Points for the Halo CE armor kit on November 7.
@woodsgump
@woodsgump 11 месяцев назад
I also advocate for individual purchases instead of bundling that one item people want with other nonsensical purchases.
@steve_jedi2511
@steve_jedi2511 11 месяцев назад
Fortnite is horrilbe, this kills one of the best games, UNERAL.
@WilliamStrickland-h9y
@WilliamStrickland-h9y 11 месяцев назад
That means the Jorge flood set should be like $10 at most. Because the only thing you can change is the color and visor.
@ravenguard0098
@ravenguard0098 11 месяцев назад
343 moment right there two steps forward one step back especially when it comes to monetization.
@easygoinowen4304
@easygoinowen4304 11 месяцев назад
Such a shame. I think this isn't a 343 problem - but i microsoft problem. One where the compromises have been pushed as far as they'll go... and without it, its dead. You'd like to think that Microsoft would bail this game out now and let it grow rather than keep giving it time frames that are unmanageable or anti-consumer
@finalhourgaming3094
@finalhourgaming3094 11 месяцев назад
What's really funny about this is the fact that I was actually about to start buying items from the shop to support it going in the right direction. Then, they do this. That's hilarious, and I won't be giving them anything. Too bad, I know they need to make money to keep it going, but Infinite is only at the state it should have been at release. Severely disappointing to see this greed.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
The shop you were about to support is much more predatory then things used to be years ago. With people echoing the same as you did but some buying into it. Do not support these shops even if they move in the right direction. If you did support the shop all it does is tell them "We can push to make things worse for the players and if they fight back we can fix it and still get their money." Keep this in mind, the fixes are to make it so we are more willing to tolerate the bad. Then the next game can be worse in these aspects. As someone who has observed the cycle for at least 10 years I want to warn you, do not let them trick you.
@odinulveson9101
@odinulveson9101 11 месяцев назад
Freedom... anarchy to customize costs. 343 were idiots not having deeper and in-game earnable armor part pools for each core. Colors should be free butcto pay for material look/ patterns could cost. Oh and we want Campaign DLC??? No way now since M$ can use fans whining about cross core parts as a crowbar to have 343 delegate most rwsources towards MP, mostly shop 😉 so thanks to the dimwits not seeing the obvious play. Cant argue with the converted
@miguelvina7188
@miguelvina7188 11 месяцев назад
I only buy what is necessary tbh haha. I dont spend much on micro transactions, but Im so dismayed that they had to do that! The game is doing great!
@RokushoTheRavager
@RokushoTheRavager 11 месяцев назад
When I first started playing Infinite when it shadow dropped unexpectedly, I fully intended to purchase the Battle Pass, which I only do with a very select few games, and then I saw what was in it and said "yea, this shit ain't worth spending $10", and after seeing everything 343 have done since, they'll be lucky if ever spend even so much as a single cent. Hell it's already been a year or a year and a half since I last played, and these dumb bastards haven't learned shit. I hope this company gets liquidated at some point, they can't do anything right.
@CliffDiverBOA
@CliffDiverBOA 11 месяцев назад
We seriously need more protections for players from greedy corporate schemes like this. It's gotten ridiculous at this point.
@DivinusPrime
@DivinusPrime 11 месяцев назад
Mark my words, within the next decade or so. We will see a worldwide gaming crash because of the endless greed from these companies.
@RokushoTheRavager
@RokushoTheRavager 11 месяцев назад
The freaking players literally allow this to happen. Everyone and their grandmother bitched about the shop till they released those God forsaken cat ears and everyone went and bought them. The community allowed this to happen because it has no fuking backbone, so the community gets what it deserves. Bitching constantly about the shop amounts to nothing if all these morons keep buying shit from it 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Zod_JB
@Zod_JB 11 месяцев назад
They are making this shop so much more difficult than it needs to be. Whoever is in charge of how the items are sold in the shop, really sucks at their job. I’m not even talking about the prices. They really need to start selling individual items. They need to price the bundles so that it’s cheaper to buy all the items together in a bundle but then individually the items would be a bit more expensive per item. Then the bundles would serve the purpose of actually being a money saving option.
@burddog0792
@burddog0792 11 месяцев назад
Actually they are analyzing hard data and maximizing revenue, you know what a business does. Everything is the way it is to maximize revenue. People on the internet than the economic and financial employees at Microsoft.
@J.C136
@J.C136 11 месяцев назад
I can’t imagine being a 343 dev, working in what has to be an unstable work environment if the constant firings/contract expirations/people quiting, & working your best to make the game what it should’ve been on launch. & then everytime you start getting positive community PR an executive comes in and forces an L for the sake of money
@IronElephantProductions
@IronElephantProductions 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate you acknowledging their improvements for cross core and transparency while distinguishing the how they are taking advantage of players. Good level headed response 👍 cheers
@NotSteev
@NotSteev 11 месяцев назад
I find it ironic that if they reduced the prices instead, more people would purchase their bs and they would probably make a bigger profit. Like give us the option to buy the one thing we want instead of bundles and reduce the prices to be fair and people will buy. Treat the customer well and he will treat your business well.
@jacoballison8237
@jacoballison8237 11 месяцев назад
Good video, really good points. Also, incredible transition at 4:15
@Aftershck
@Aftershck 11 месяцев назад
Microtransactions are horrid in 2023 because they’re no longer micro but usually the same price as actually playable dlc
@MEGAbrandon281
@MEGAbrandon281 11 месяцев назад
I really do think Microsoft is applying the pressure onto 343 to do this
@HoodRed69
@HoodRed69 11 месяцев назад
Congrats you can repeat the same rhetoric he said in the video. It's both of them not just Microsoft this half-assed blame gets Halo nowhere.
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu 11 месяцев назад
Of course they are ... But does it actually matter?
@HoodRed69
@HoodRed69 11 месяцев назад
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu yes Phil thinks he can get away with letting the main franchise fail by firing the heads of 343 in a halfassed effort to make up for the soulless games for the last decade. If we gain traction on fire 343 and fire phil spencer he will listen as he did then. Not.Good.Enough.
@eeeeyuke
@eeeeyuke 11 месяцев назад
I could care care less what my character looks like, especially in an FPS with outlines.
@jacksonjohnson8415
@jacksonjohnson8415 11 месяцев назад
So with their logic, if there ends up being 20 cores, they would have the right to charge $50 for bundle? Because of multi-use? Logic doesn’t hold up…
@skip2mylizzle
@skip2mylizzle 11 месяцев назад
Dude I know you've said your ping is high, but seeing how long after you shoot and then the guy dies is nuts
@MintBlitz
@MintBlitz 11 месяцев назад
Aussie life
@rashira9610
@rashira9610 11 месяцев назад
Ultimately the blame falls on players. It's easy to point the finger at the corporations for being exploitative, and fuck them for treating players this way, but at the end of the day, the only reason they are acting like this is because gamers in general enabled them to do so. So many people thought "Oh this is harmless, it;s just cosmetics and its only a little bit of money so it;s okay because everyone gets free games!" and bough into this trashy trend that now gaming as a whole is almost completely ruined by this trashy trend. The corporations may be pushing this nonsense, but gamers are still at fault for so enthusiastically slurping it up, blinded by the word "FFREE!" while completely forgetting the saying "There is no such thing as a FREE lunch" Everything has a price, and the price of everyone in their mom being able to play games has been the soul being sucked out of the medium and sacrificed for lazy profit and the exploitation of children, as well as weak willed and mentally challenged adults. Good job gamers. You really made this hobby great! Should have stuck to piracy if you wanted free games.
@wayne4714
@wayne4714 11 месяцев назад
Just when you thought they couldn’t get scummier, they do!
@setriaphtfk208
@setriaphtfk208 11 месяцев назад
We need to push a flat out micro- no, macrotransaction boycott
@brandonlt6434
@brandonlt6434 11 месяцев назад
Following halo news is like riding a rollercoaster. One day its fixed the next its on fire, like an abusive ex...
@toothy_efoa
@toothy_efoa 11 месяцев назад
I guarantee that more people will buy things from the shop if you could by pieces separately
@FabuBrik
@FabuBrik 11 месяцев назад
I can see it now. Season 7 releases with the ability to purchase individual items. And prices increase by 20% as a result. 343i responds with "you wanted this".
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu
@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu 11 месяцев назад
I mean, if I want, say, one thing in a bundle of nine items, a 20% premium over one-ninth the bundle price would be a total W. I'd be fine with single items at 500-700 in most cases.
@a.ben1137
@a.ben1137 11 месяцев назад
The thing that bother me a lot that 343 never give 1 or 2 free credit for people who don’t want to put real money to the game like me. Some cosmetic from free tier and weekly challenge is still not enough to those cool stuff from battle pass and shop.
@goobot1
@goobot1 11 месяцев назад
Just staying all you have to spend is 10$ for the battle pass and then you can earn it back for the next one. 10$ for every battle pass in the game is pretty good
@a.ben1137
@a.ben1137 11 месяцев назад
@@goobot1 nope I won’t pay my money just for a cosmetic in games while I can use 10$ anything in ours life than that.
@goobot1
@goobot1 11 месяцев назад
@@a.ben1137 10$ ain’t much, I understand not wanting to spend money on those things but it ain’t really much for what you’re getting
@a.ben1137
@a.ben1137 11 месяцев назад
@@Connor8609 fine I rather pay game pass to get full experience of true halo not free and microtransaction
@MountainWo1f
@MountainWo1f 11 месяцев назад
I decided a long time ago that I wasn't gonna buy anything from the shop again. Especially after I was disiponted with my last purchase.
@flattedfifth447
@flattedfifth447 11 месяцев назад
if we want as much content as possible as fast as possible without layoffs... They shop needs to be like this. and no, buying for single items for a dollar at the time does not work. 10 people spending a dollar a week versus 2 ppl spending 20 dollars a week.
@megaman37456
@megaman37456 11 месяцев назад
They 100% do NOT need shops like this. that's why F2P is always a scam. ALWAYS. Nintendo manages to pull this off without microtransactions, Hell Sonic manages to pull this off without microtransactions. Sorry these shops have no justifiable reason to exist in ANY AAA game.
@tharetsku
@tharetsku 11 месяцев назад
I haven't spent a penny on the game and I sure as hell won't be starting now If I could buy just the stuff I want, without too much of a hassle, and for a reasonable price I definitely would dish out a few euro.
@DulceDul217
@DulceDul217 11 месяцев назад
The funny thing is... If they actually did it this way, they would sell a lot more 🙃
@iLegionaire3755
@iLegionaire3755 11 месяцев назад
If 343 Industries unlocks full Cross Core Customization by Season 6 or Season 7, and allows players to purchase any individual pieces they want, removes Armor Kits and unlocks the coatings and armor within those kits to every core, AND REMOVES ALL MENTION OF VAULTED ITEMS GARBAGE, they will make ten times the profits.
@FyterianTV
@FyterianTV 11 месяцев назад
oh, another person who thinks 6-of-a-thing should cost the same & has the same value as 1-of-a-thing…. 🙄
@iLegionaire3755
@iLegionaire3755 11 месяцев назад
The worst news is that the Mark V CE Armor Kit will be at least $60.00 to $70.00 or more, and yes I will be buying it. And I won't be the only one. There's still food in front of us but we don't want to eat it, but we force it down anyways, choking back the bile and disgust. We have become the tools of everything we ever hated... What a backhanded, backstabbing move by 343 Industries, raising their bottom line by adding a feature that was supposed to be in the game from Day 1. Not a massive update of new content, but content that was locked in the code upon release literally on diabolical purpose, just to sell you Cadet Blue six different manipulative times! Bungie cared about great video games. 343 Industries cares about money. Now both studios ONLY care about the money, not the fact that OG Bungie once defined the industry standards, with legendary interactive entertainment experiences.
@YOitsBA
@YOitsBA 11 месяцев назад
There's no way they make more money in bundles. There's been dozens of times I've wanted to buy an individual armor piece only to see it in an 1,800-2,200 bundle and just decided not to buy anything. Where I'd probably have spent that much by now if I could buy individual pieces for 100-300 credits.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
Sure you might have spent 2000 by now if it was cheaper, but all it takes is 1 person buying this 2000 bundle to offset you. The more expensive they are the fewer they need to make the same profit. If what you said is true, then 2$ skins sets would've still been a thing. Most of the time they are 20$ unfortunately.
@YOitsBA
@YOitsBA 11 месяцев назад
@@Buglin_Burger7878 I'm simply saying I can't be the only one. Yeah some people are paying these prices but those same people and more would buy if they were cheaper. I feel that would equate to more profit.
@Lucaspocus
@Lucaspocus 11 месяцев назад
Saying something is on sale, for 20% off, when the price hasn't changed, because they're going to INCREASE the price in the future, is deceptive and illegal. Report that to the FTC.
@vintovka9337
@vintovka9337 11 месяцев назад
Ironically 343 and microsoft would earn MORE money if everything in the shop was cheaper! Its a digital product, there's no supply and demand, just how much you want to shell out for some pixels. Items being more expensive doesn't make them more "Unique", it just means most people won't buy it because it isn't worth that much to them.
@jrums96
@jrums96 11 месяцев назад
Hey Mint! I posted this comment on the last video but seeing as this deals with the issue of shop pricing directly i thought I'd post it again: With the Mk. 5 core coming out in the shop I just wanted to out my 2 cents in and ask that you DON'T buy it. The store prices are insane and going up simply because 343i added a feature into the game that should have been there from the start with cross-core. As such a prominent member of the halo community if you refused to spend money in the shop I think that would really send a message to 343i with these rediculous prices. Just food for thought, thanks for all you do for the community. Huge fan.
@disgruntleddude6105
@disgruntleddude6105 11 месяцев назад
343i are a bit like cats. Just when you think you've managed to get them to stop pissing in the house, you come home to the smell of cat piss. I was about to check this game out at long last after hearing about Arbiter and The Flood making a return but now I hear they're raising prices and actively gaslighting the fanbase about why they're doing it? We have reached a point where the company must choose between pleasing the customer (correct choice) and pleasing the out-of-touch rich idiot shareholders (incorrect choice).
@obsius1355
@obsius1355 11 месяцев назад
F2P games are the worst. Halo and Destiny should have never ever become F2P. I glad how poorly halo infinite is doing because these companies have to realize that excessive monetization is unacceptable. Most people don’t even care anymore which is terrible
@Quillian
@Quillian 11 месяцев назад
Most likley its Miceosoft pushing 343 to be doing this, with the way the game is going now I cant see the devs being happy with these prices as well
@paddywickstead1122
@paddywickstead1122 11 месяцев назад
I’d buy more if there was single piece items for a reasonable price. I only just bought my first small bundle and coating recently. First time I’ve bought micro transactions since black ops 2 camos that sold for about $2 each
@arcadius3257
@arcadius3257 11 месяцев назад
1. Who cares? Multiplayer is F2P and cosmetics are optional. 2. Instead of whining about it why not speak with your wallet and just don't buy them? if the prices aren't reasonable and if the sentiment is reflected by the playerbase and they also don't buy them then the prices will drop on their own. The only reason shit like this exists is because players whine like entitled brats but then buy this shit anyway making their complaints worthless.
@JoshSimpson
@JoshSimpson 11 месяцев назад
343's specific team members especially on the business side is most likely to be behind the culprit with greedy attitudes. Their hands will be chewed up by the community, so don't tempt to fuck the community over this critical conjunction here.
@matthewwebb7921
@matthewwebb7921 11 месяцев назад
I totally agree. You can't raise the price for fixing something that should never have been broken to change in the first place. Cross core does not warrant a raise in process for the shop. Just bad move by 343
@Frosthowl93
@Frosthowl93 11 месяцев назад
The prices are so high its a turnoff in itself. I want the George set. I want buy the big bundle. Cotemplating the fifty dollar credot bundle option for either makes me reconsider.
@LegendaryGoetz
@LegendaryGoetz 11 месяцев назад
I logged on to check out the whole new season. I was shocked at those prices! I’m even more shocked to see people are actually buying them.
@DivinusPrime
@DivinusPrime 11 месяцев назад
If they raise the prices up again to $50 -$60, then this live service game won't be around much longer.
@LegendaryGoetz
@LegendaryGoetz 11 месяцев назад
@@DivinusPrime i bought this game. So when people call it “free” i scoff… its an $80 game here in Canada. I payed for the first season, and after a month or two of the game that was it to me. 343 is on the ups with where the game sat last year. However these store prices will continue to cripple us, and eventually them.
@GrayMatter337
@GrayMatter337 11 месяцев назад
was literally almost tempted to buy some flood armour. Havent played in months. Took one look at store prices and uninstalled again. Shits embarrassing. Fuck this store with a game stapled to it, it can rot in my library
@mynamejacob8678
@mynamejacob8678 11 месяцев назад
The game isn’t at its full potential when anywhere outside of US you just time out, it may be the matchmaking not finding people or not enough people but either way it’s embarrassing for them.
@BluVic02
@BluVic02 11 месяцев назад
I feel that anyone with proof of campaign purchase should get a 20% discount in the shop and on passes imo. I spent $60 on a campaign with 1/3 amount of content it was supposed to have
@harrycake9407
@harrycake9407 11 месяцев назад
Crazy people are willing to pay half the price of a decent game just for a coluur and some armour, these people have lost theur original vision of money. Spending ut online is just the same as spending it in person dont be deceived these prices are absolutely huge for something that isnt even real and foesnt even add anything to the experience, this is nft level rubbish but a fool and their money is soon parted especially when manipulative marketing is at play.
@redfield7389
@redfield7389 11 месяцев назад
"Sorry guys... the core system we added in, even though you never wanted it,has caused us to raise the prices as it means we have to work like...a little more to get an armor piece on different cores!"
@doesmoes
@doesmoes 11 месяцев назад
I applaud you for calling them out on their BS reason. But honestly, the shop has been bad from the start and it rarely -if ever- has anything interesting, so I don't bother with opening that tab anymore anyway
@toxicmasculinity7870
@toxicmasculinity7870 11 месяцев назад
On a side note to all of this heresy: who else was distracted by Mints fantastic gameplay in the background? O_o
@Isaacreeper
@Isaacreeper 11 месяцев назад
They would have been better off had they said it went up cuz "inflation"
@gizmo366
@gizmo366 11 месяцев назад
It won't be because of the financial crisis because I saw news that Microsoft was eliminating the free game pass for employees who are not related to gaming or Microsoft gaming. also due to the post pandemic
@wordlesslfiddling
@wordlesslfiddling 11 месяцев назад
Thats not halo infinite only or biggest problem Its still barley playable i dont care how much content they add if they cant make the game not desync for 2 seconds i cant tell you the last time i went a whole life without desync nevermind multiple lives or a whole game
@loganvanwingerden3653
@loganvanwingerden3653 11 месяцев назад
I didn’t mind the price increase at first but you saying it should’ve already been like that since launch you do have a point that they should not be entitled to raise prices they’ll still draw in a shit ton of revenue with low prices as long as they’re good cosmetics
@sanchezs7614
@sanchezs7614 11 месяцев назад
343 charging the consumers for their mistakes 😂
@wabbaflocky2616
@wabbaflocky2616 11 месяцев назад
It’s so funny they manage to do steps forward and then proceed to make 2 steps back for each good choice
@IIoyd
@IIoyd 11 месяцев назад
you are a god send for speaking out, thankyou for this and always giving the absolute best feedback.
@gizmoz
@gizmoz 11 месяцев назад
Well I will never buy anything if I was you guys
@Lucaspocus
@Lucaspocus 11 месяцев назад
Everyone keeps saying its microsoft, but TBH, we've seen 343 make a million bad decisions since they took over, through H4, H5, Infinite, MCC, the TV show, and the Anniversary games. Washing their hands of the shop prices/direction with no proof is IMO unwarranted. This is 343's game, 343's shop, and 343's employee who's incharge of micro transactions, until evidence proves otherwise.
@joerowland2625
@joerowland2625 11 месяцев назад
Are you stupid ? The halo TV show was made by Paramount studios not 343 Halo CE Anniversary was made by Blue Studios and Certain Affinity not 343 Everyone loved halo 2 Anniversary 343 are a new company now There have entire leadership And that's been the case since Season 4 of halo Infinite And Season 5 was amazing
@LoonaIMP666
@LoonaIMP666 11 месяцев назад
Says halo infinite shop is worse but still buys the armor in the shop ur weapon skin says so
@aerodynamicmilk
@aerodynamicmilk 11 месяцев назад
yo shoutout to that transition at 4:15 that was smooth af
@RageHelios
@RageHelios 11 месяцев назад
I was finally able to achieve my dream spartan with the cross core helmets. I wont be buying anything in the shop until they make pieces individually purchasable.
@swirlymuffin6932
@swirlymuffin6932 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, Mint!!! You being there for the community, means a lot!!!
@FuckinGaming
@FuckinGaming 11 месяцев назад
I WOULD SPEND SO MUCH MONEY IF I COULD BUY A SINGLE FRICKIN PIECE OF ARMOR IN THE SHOP
@FuckinGaming
@FuckinGaming 11 месяцев назад
By that I actually just mean buying one thing from a bundle separately. All the flood stuff is so cool, but I'm not trying to spend $22 for a set of items I won't ever use.
@FadedMaple07
@FadedMaple07 11 месяцев назад
Agreed, There's a few pieces of armor and coatings that I honestly would buy if it wasn't in $20 bundles.
@jessejive117
@jessejive117 11 месяцев назад
@@FuckinGaming I’ve been defending 343 in the comment section because everything everyone else is saying is stupid. But you’re exactly right. You’ll make more money that way. I’d be willing to spend $50 on five things I liked and $49 on one thing I like that came with another four things I did not care for. I’m not sure why they’re doing it this way. I guess they think they’ll make more money but they won’t. I think they think that people will like the armor so much they will be willing to pay all that money for one thing they like and they are justifying it by throwing in some things most people don’t care for. Which is fine I don’t think it’s immoral or evil or should be illegal. They are doing anything to take advantage of people hurt people and it’s not things that even matter it’s video game cosmetics. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s going to make the most money. Even if they just severely lower the price of the bundle people would still be willing to spend more money to get five things and they would less money to get one thing that’s over priced. People won’t pay for things that they don’t think are worth it.
@FuckinGaming
@FuckinGaming 11 месяцев назад
@@jessejive117 I'm pretty bad with restraining myself when it comes to spending money, and I'm very susceptible to FOMO. So to me it says something when even I draw the line at $20+ to get a single coating for the one armor core I use.
@DivinusPrime
@DivinusPrime 11 месяцев назад
​@jessejive117 This will eventually lead to another video game crash, within the next few years.
@darkspark5854
@darkspark5854 11 месяцев назад
2:53 I feel like an idiot. I bought this cuz I thought it was on sale
@RAMZAVFX
@RAMZAVFX 11 месяцев назад
That was a nice translocator transition at 4:15
@ShoddyLegion
@ShoddyLegion 11 месяцев назад
Just remeber Sketch is a messenger not the guy who tells them to do shit.
@FallenTerrarian
@FallenTerrarian 11 месяцев назад
The first Flood Bundle was actually pretty well priced! The but new one was just a Kit💀 for 28 dollars
@KOOLEE88
@KOOLEE88 11 месяцев назад
the selfish in me says everyone who missed it would just miss out.
@epicdude3659
@epicdude3659 11 месяцев назад
343i awhile ago: alright, we'll lower the prices 343i now: we making that shit cost more again, here's some bullshit lies corporate is forcing us to say
@joerowland2625
@joerowland2625 11 месяцев назад
The halo Infinite store is controlled by Microsoft Not 343 343 are good as shown by Season 5 which was amazing 😎
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