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In Warframe you can survive WITHOUT Health or Shields! And in this Guide, I am going to show you exactly how this silly Tactic works and why it might even be BETTER than the commen Health- or Shield Tanking.
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@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Fun Quiz: How often did I say "Damage Reduction" in this video?
@LukaGuinot-ye9wl
@LukaGuinot-ye9wl 4 месяца назад
many time
@therealsushi423
@therealsushi423 4 месяца назад
like at least once
@oswaldocelot6243
@oswaldocelot6243 4 месяца назад
69
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Can't say you're wrong xD
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
1, 2, 3, ... many :D
@Tricsterfull
@Tricsterfull 4 месяца назад
Energy Tanks are all gangsta until Ancient Disruptor shows up
@tomj819
@tomj819 4 месяца назад
Sadly, this. Dumbest mob in the game right now by a mile.
@Tyler_J_Cook
@Tyler_J_Cook 4 месяца назад
@@tomj819 They've been in the game for like a decade now. Shouldn't be a problem brodie.
@tomj819
@tomj819 4 месяца назад
@@Tyler_J_Cook well they aren't; that doesn't change the fact that one blind ranged hit taking you from 900 energy to zero because it scales with damage as enemies level is a bad design. Under level 300 it's a non-issue but above that it completely removes the viability of a number of builds, to the point where people flat out avoid infested tiles.
@SeventhSeraphS12
@SeventhSeraphS12 4 месяца назад
i kid you not i got smacked once and lost all 180 of my energy
@The_Ragequit_Cannon
@The_Ragequit_Cannon 4 месяца назад
@@tomj819 Infested aren't the only ones that have disruptor units
@swollenapocrypha
@swollenapocrypha 4 месяца назад
infested disruptors who can reduce your energy to 0 from multiple hundred in one hit would REALLY like to discuss the efficacy of this strategy with you
@VogeGandire
@VogeGandire 4 месяца назад
Harrow works really well with this kind of setup, because Harrow's 3 can generate energy so much faster than enemies can deplete it.
@Arronode
@Arronode 4 месяца назад
Gauss with his [2] ability is amazing for this strat. It's a form of damage reduction that replenishes energy, meaning the enemy bullets will just heal you.
@sorenagernakk8432
@sorenagernakk8432 4 месяца назад
Ah yes, another reason energy draining eximus enemies are the bane of every player.
@lucasribas4664
@lucasribas4664 4 месяца назад
yOU CaNT kILL Me, iM THiNking VErY FasT
@hamodabimbo
@hamodabimbo 4 месяца назад
Lavos and Hildryn mains be like: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.
@jjmah7
@jjmah7 4 месяца назад
You try that new Lavos mod? He’s straight up op now lol love it
@hamodabimbo
@hamodabimbo 4 месяца назад
@@jjmah7I watched Kengineer’s video on the augment and fell in love with Lavos. Very strong augment hands down.
@anixprophet1966
@anixprophet1966 2 месяца назад
They also recently added that arcane that increases your energy based on how much armor you have
@RBRSC
@RBRSC 4 месяца назад
Ancient Disruptor has entered the chat. "Nothing personal kid" Also you might really want an Arcane Nullifier (or other status immunity) before you try this in Murmur or Coprus Railjack/Juno where regular enemies do magnet stuff to you.
@andrewoconnell90
@andrewoconnell90 4 месяца назад
I thought people was using this method for ages and I discovered it about a month ago. All I got off other people is "how did you manage to cheat?". I tried to tell them how it works but they just could not get it. This video helps loads. Maybe it's a visual thing that's needed to help. Great job.
@esperfire3779
@esperfire3779 4 месяца назад
What's funny is way, WAY back in the old days of Warframe, Quick Thinking was a very common mod because player armor sucked. Nowadays, it's mostly forgotten because most frames have better options.
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the nice feedback ❤️ Yeah People online sometimes get really salty. One guy reported me for being dragged out of the extraction zone by a Grineer Scorpion which then reset the 1 min extraction counter xD
@DeputyFish
@DeputyFish 4 месяца назад
@@esperfire3779 it was popular because QT worked with rage causing an endless loop of you gaining energy from tanking while also being immortal because you gain energy from tanking. this isnt very good anymore. since you have to dedicate so much to it. meaning you lack everything. while stilling getting one shot from big hits like bombards
@xaendark
@xaendark 4 месяца назад
just never go against infected with this, they have units that can insta drain your energy with one hit
@derekspringer6448
@derekspringer6448 4 месяца назад
Man I hate it on the rare occasion that I hold energy on infested missions like a heroin addict holds a job. It seems I can usually kill fast enough to be fine, but there are times where I'm just like WHAT CAN I DO!? I think its levels with tight spaces and lots of corners. Just can't see then kill em fast enough to get em before you have absolutely zero energy. I'm thinking specifically of levels that the hive game mode is played on, I think always, if not then usually. I definitely wouldn't trust this method on an infested level. Unless I had that one arcane that blocks magnetic damage equipped, I think its magnetic that does it anyway...
@xaendark
@xaendark 4 месяца назад
@@derekspringer6448 sadly, the arcane doesn't prevent the energy drain, just the proc that would also make you lose energy. Well, that's unless they've changed it since I've last tested it.
@mateuszreszka3033
@mateuszreszka3033 4 месяца назад
All nice and good, untill Corrupted Bombard one shoots your whole energy with one shot and you didn't even manage to generate enough stacks for adaptation, also any deep archimedia or any in game energy debuffs just make this useless
@Fedico7000
@Fedico7000 4 месяца назад
real
@slof69
@slof69 3 месяца назад
​quick thinking is too outdating but man was it good back then
@thegamingmax2397
@thegamingmax2397 4 месяца назад
"Energy, son! It hardens in response to fatal damage!"
@maxygbr
@maxygbr 3 месяца назад
Man i remember back then when there was way less mods and no shield gate, Quick Thinking was THE KING for survivability, pair that to any energize that had no cooldown, grace and rage, and you were set
@comet.x
@comet.x 4 месяца назад
Vazurin users running around with a grey healthbar:
@lonesamurai1755
@lonesamurai1755 4 месяца назад
try to put rage mod to it where if you take damage to your health it will turn into energy i bet that would be great
@tomj819
@tomj819 4 месяца назад
It doesn't really work because the 40% efficiency on it doesn't provide value. Even if you have passive health regen the mod slot it takes is too expensive. Assume you have around 400 health, getting taken from max to min only nets you 160 energy, which at best is about 15% more survivability.
@annhoc
@annhoc 4 месяца назад
You need heal or regen for that actually work. Cause you need to lose HP to trigger rage. If you sitting at 2HP then it won't work.
@GrandArmyGaming01
@GrandArmyGaming01 4 месяца назад
This video is basically 'How many ways can Blacky break Warframe'
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 4 месяца назад
Nothing Broken as far as I can Tell. 🤔
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Haha one could certainly say that xD But guess what, I ain' done yet xD
@GrandArmyGaming01
@GrandArmyGaming01 4 месяца назад
@@MHBlacky_ENG I'm scared to click on the next video
@NathanTruby
@NathanTruby 4 месяца назад
Three problems with this strategy: Ancient Disruptors exist Energy Leech Eximus exists Magnetic damage as a whole exists
@theurbanreanimator7244
@theurbanreanimator7244 4 месяца назад
Oh naur, if only i had a way to regenerate energy so fast it makes those completely obsolete- oh right equilibrium
@NathanTruby
@NathanTruby 4 месяца назад
@theurbanreanimator7244 Oh naur, there's no more health or energy orbs, I'm fucking dead
@clgr1323
@clgr1323 4 месяца назад
Arcane nullifier. problem solved
@NathanTruby
@NathanTruby 4 месяца назад
@@clgr1323 ancient disruptors still steal your energy, plus now you're down an arcane slot
@VertietRyper
@VertietRyper 4 месяца назад
Yeah this was a known strat for some squishy frames in early game, when paired with Rage. It sharply falls off in effectiveness when energy becomes an issue. It'll work on some frames like Garuda, still, but it's heavily niche because it didn't work 7 years ago for the exact same reasons it won't really work in the new research archemedia missions (the 400+ ones)
@theghost8914
@theghost8914 3 месяца назад
energy tank nidus is the funniest thing in the game. massive health added with grace and rage means that even if they somehow beat everything else they now have to beat the energy bar that regens to full on every hit and has more effective health then the health bar ever did.
@1Sirisacudo
@1Sirisacudo 4 месяца назад
Its a good way to tank but remember 1 thing, it has a limit. when the monsters start getting insane lvl and dmg the every single hit is going to be a hit kill so ur energy is gonna drop instantly then u die. to be able to tank lvl cap enemies u must use cheese strategies like invulnerability, shield gate or even shield recharge... keep that in mind
@borisshnitkov7600
@borisshnitkov7600 4 месяца назад
Garuda with Gloom (replace 2) is so good with this, since her 3 lets her sacrifice health for energy. It's such a fun build on her, you don't even need to use operator at all with how good her self-sustain is
@lavantant2731
@lavantant2731 4 месяца назад
as an old school trinity main (and no longer a trinity player because of how badly they screwed her in every possible way) i knew the instant i saw the 2 HP that it was gonna just be a QT build, but its def more viable these days than it used to be, due to all the ways we can get energy
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Haha yeah, I totally didn't know QT was a thing a long time ago... Was before I got serious about the game xD But it's nice to see some old strats being revived again^^
@tenalpoen
@tenalpoen 4 месяца назад
Probably worth noting that nobody should ever attempt energy tanking without arcane nullifier, or general status protection.
@coffeesorcerer6980
@coffeesorcerer6980 4 месяца назад
See, Nyx has been doing this for years, and I can tell you two things about energy tanking. 1, a very high level enemy will one shot you. 2, Ancient Disruptor.
@notoriously_unedited
@notoriously_unedited 4 месяца назад
Yep, stops being viable at around levels 500~1000, the damage you receive from enemies on those levels starts to get ridiculous
@jidhindharanm.p9351
@jidhindharanm.p9351 4 месяца назад
​@@notoriously_uneditedwhy do u even want to fight those lvls?
@Dabestbro.
@Dabestbro. 4 месяца назад
@@jidhindharanm.p9351 circuit, long SP runs, deep archimedea
@shaderunner7.0
@shaderunner7.0 4 месяца назад
4 hours straight cracking Relics in Omnia Alchemy, enemies start hitting lvl 4-6k, pretty good time
@omurice3612
@omurice3612 4 месяца назад
Nyx when built up can easily AFK level cap content in her 4 since her drain is per 1000 damage, scales off duration and efficiency, and scales off armor and DR. I'll watch my damage absorption tick by the millions and my energy barely moves. Nyx also can't be targeted by energy drain moves while in her 4. Energy drain monsters in deep archimedea, ancient disrupters, magnetic procs, none of it can hit her to drain energy. I use her as my comfy frame to just mindlessly farm levelcap. Undoubtedly the comfiest weapon platform right next to Yareli.
@MorfsPrower
@MorfsPrower 3 месяца назад
I remember our guild's core tactician would make builds for us, he put me onto the invulnerability Trinity build before they completely removed it. Energy tanking was one of his core designs. Quick Thinking has carried me for years. If you have a way to quick cycle energy, you are quite literally invulnerable.
@thatguyzerg
@thatguyzerg 4 месяца назад
I've read dumb in the notification and dumb I act sometimes, I need to know today's tomfoolery
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Hahahaha wish you much fun then :D
@thatguyzerg
@thatguyzerg 4 месяца назад
@@MHBlacky_ENG thanks and good loot🤝
@Screwypone
@Screwypone 4 месяца назад
Ah yes. Harrow's invulnerability now has invulnerability on top of it
@Triikouu
@Triikouu 3 месяца назад
"Look what they need to mimic a *fraction* of our power." -nezha mains
@Bagheera2
@Bagheera2 4 месяца назад
Son basically they removed the stagger from quick thinking. That used to stagger you.
@Orange_Tree_
@Orange_Tree_ 4 месяца назад
Everything new is well forgotten old, eh? In my times we used to pair it with Rage and later Hunter's Adrenaline, together with Rejuvenation (the only consistent widely available health regen option back then) to literally afk timed missions. Also, gotta call you out for a clickbait on that thumb, dude. QT still leaves you with two hps. The only frame that actually survives with zero health and shields, to my knowledge at least, is Couch Potato Oberon.
@somnioid
@somnioid 4 месяца назад
Hey I just wanted to say, I have used a similar build to this on Valkyr for years and wanted to point out the biggest weakness of the build since it wasn't mentioned. Ancient Disruptors, especially on steel path difficulty can nuke over 700 energy in one hit ignoring all forms of damage resist, and they magnetic proc you if you don't have the arcane for immunity to it. I would not highly recommend using these builds in say a steel path dark sector survival for resource farming. I love the video and I love these kinds of builds in general, but as with most things, they have their limits.
@nikobaston8089
@nikobaston8089 4 месяца назад
so what you're saying is my 99% DR Rage Hirudo Nidus can become even more unkillable?
@MedoKojiZiviOvde
@MedoKojiZiviOvde 4 месяца назад
You forgot to talk about energy nexus and energy syphon.
@Bagheera2
@Bagheera2 4 месяца назад
Hunter adrenaline
@The_radiance_from_hk
@The_radiance_from_hk 4 месяца назад
Imagine gauss with this build, with kinetic plating which on itself gives pretty good damage reduction WHILE supplying you with energy so the more damage you take the more energy you gain and the more energy you have the longer you can survive using this with adaptation to gain even more reduction from same type damage which would be good while fighting big hordes of enemies in steelpath it could also be pushed even further with redline to increase damage reduction
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Hahaha yes, Gauss really goes brrrr with this one :D
@Jay-xt5sx
@Jay-xt5sx 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I do this and it is insane, I also subsume Parasitic Armor onto him as you won't be needing his shields and it can give an insane amount of armor, put the two health to energy and drain energy to reduce damage mod on, as well as shield mods and he is one of the most tanky frames
@Riasiru
@Riasiru 4 месяца назад
This is why I run this on my Oberon. His health regen is absolutely absurd under all that damage mitigation. Rage to regain energy on lost health just creates a feedback loop where they have to do an absurd amount of damage to overcome the healing AND the energy that dealing with that healing provides. Oberon can give armor and health regen to his entire team. Combine this with Rage and energy tanking and even a Loki becomes so tanky that they can stand in front of a level 100 corrupted heavy gunner and they won't do enough sustained DPS to kill them.
@S4BRETOOTH
@S4BRETOOTH 4 месяца назад
I'm not gonna lie, after years of staying away, this video makes me wanna install Warframe again and try this method on my beloved Mag. Great job!!
@solusaldrain
@solusaldrain 4 месяца назад
Leech exilus has entered the chat.
@LegenDaeryl
@LegenDaeryl 4 месяца назад
Okay... I'm a couple of heavily over engineered margaritas in while watching this. But, I'm 100% on board with this. I took a 6 year hiatus from the game, and apparently, my new way of thinking upon returning fits very well with your video. You've given me a shortcut. And, well, thank you. This video earned my subscription. Great job. P.S. I really hope this makes sense. The alcohol is definitely hard to work through.
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Man, I'm currently on vacation... There are Beach Bars... I do understand xDDD But jokes aside, I'm happy you liked the vid so much ❤️ Welcome to the Crew :D
@LegenDaeryl
@LegenDaeryl 4 месяца назад
@@MHBlacky_ENG enjoy the time off!
@ArcVaranus
@ArcVaranus 4 месяца назад
I remember when Rage/Quick Thinking was one of the most popular survivability methods in the game, before self-healing and shield gating were all that widespread. I honestly thought it had dropped off in relevance, but seeing these experiments is giving me a lot of thought for my own builds. Nice work!
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Thank you ❤️ I didn't know actually that this was a thing in the past :O
@tomj819
@tomj819 4 месяца назад
I may be wrong, but I think back then the number on Rage was much higher (like 120%) and it was changed to nerf the effect of stacking them. Now that there are more sources of DR and health regen it's probably a lot stronger than it was even say a year ago. I'm sure you can do something hilarious with Citrine using her passive, Gloom lifesteal, Arcane Blessing, Rage, Hunter Adrenaline and Quick Thinking. I'm just not convinced it would end up being actually good lol.
@tenalpoen
@tenalpoen 4 месяца назад
Before Wukong got reworked, his old defiance ability automatically used energy to restore health upon taking fatal damage. it was possible to make him basically unkillable with those mods.
@mitza1416
@mitza1416 4 месяца назад
i'm really happy others think shield gating is terrifiedly stressful
@troffmad
@troffmad 4 месяца назад
yep, that's a relief, won't be nerfed
@redfiveish
@redfiveish 3 месяца назад
i remember abusing the rage/quick thinking interaction back in the day before they fixed it. good times
@darjockulhominum4556
@darjockulhominum4556 4 месяца назад
Seems very viable on Nezha; since they have a damage reduction skill that also negates status effects that would reduce energy
@Cteklo7
@Cteklo7 4 месяца назад
dead from magnet status effect... again
@MiquShiro
@MiquShiro 4 месяца назад
There was an oberon build that basically took his concept and made you immortal as long as you had energy or didnt step into a nullifier bubble, basically his 3 gives you a constant health regen so you take rage or adrenaline to sustain your energy and the rest was just max strength, it was funny but quite weak because you did nothing but tank
@RavlinWasTaken
@RavlinWasTaken 4 месяца назад
Seeing quick thinking on youtube builds its like being back in 2018
@TheDarkFable
@TheDarkFable 4 месяца назад
Hmm mayhap a equilibrium Atlas would work well with this. Without health and shield mods you could maybe squeeze in path of statues, ore gaze and rubble heap. So build up to over 1400 rubble, then go to town punching. Each punch is free if over 1400 rubble, the punches are making petrify paths, and smashing petrified enemies drops more hp and energy orbs.
@purpledeep7767
@purpledeep7767 4 месяца назад
I'm curious, how does this whole system works with mods like Rage or hunter's adrenaline? If you keep eternally taking damage, won't that mean you'll also regenerate all your energy, meaning you literally can't die (Unless level cap or something) ?
@MineMeUp10
@MineMeUp10 4 месяца назад
I don't think you could manage that unless you found a way to return 100% of the damage you take as energy. Those mods put together don't add up to 100% last I played, but it's been a while. Could technically be considered a further layer of damage reduction though.
@kitsuneprincess4637
@kitsuneprincess4637 4 месяца назад
Rage and Hunter Adrenaline only trigger off of health (and overguard granted by another frame), not "energy health", unfortunately.
@MineMeUp10
@MineMeUp10 4 месяца назад
@@kitsuneprincess4637 When quick thinking negates damage and drains energy, it doesn't count as taking damage then? I suppose that makes sense, but feels kind of lame.
@remnas512
@remnas512 4 месяца назад
the combo of quick thinking + rage actually used to work way back in the early days of warframe and effectively made you immortal, they nerfed it way back in 2013.
@Luzaku_kiss
@Luzaku_kiss 4 месяца назад
Who would've thought that using your energy bar as your health bar would result in you having billions of health?
@hardwareHobbit
@hardwareHobbit 4 месяца назад
coming from an other mmo where you only live on health and reduction and just getting deeper into warframe this video was a real game changer in survivability, love the option of a third resource for tanking. also thanks for the in depth explanation
@zerker279
@zerker279 4 месяца назад
Be sure to keep on your toes guys, if you take a big enough hit it will instantly down you to conserve remaining energy. Those blitz eximus can be deadly
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 4 месяца назад
Some people interpret this as *Quick Thinking* being Bugged.... I feel bad for them.
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Oh boi, Blitz Eximus... The stuff of my 10kHP-Inaros-one-hit-nightmares :O
@nicolaspeigne1429
@nicolaspeigne1429 4 месяца назад
Gauss seems op with that build because of his 2nd skill, damage reduction that also gives you energy... when you take damage
@U_n_d_e_r_s_c_o_r_e_n
@U_n_d_e_r_s_c_o_r_e_n 4 месяца назад
Level 9999: im gonna end this mans career
@KhristianBolano
@KhristianBolano 4 месяца назад
Shield Gating hardly requires mod investment outside of Brief Respite and slightly weaker generalist Augur mods. You might need Catalyzing Shields but that's not an harsh requirement. Energy Tanking is basically an evolution of Health tanking and it requires more hard mod taxes and opportunity costs, so this is completely fine
@emperor_prime2011
@emperor_prime2011 4 месяца назад
Shouldn't Rage and Hunter:Adrenaline work pretty good with this? I haven't used energy tanking in quite a while, so I'm not sure 100% sure. But if it works, it's a no brainer.
@LiShuBen
@LiShuBen 4 месяца назад
Just tried it, it works.
@watanleidende5179
@watanleidende5179 4 месяца назад
As long as you have health rage and hunter adrenaline will work. If your health is drained your energy won't be recharged by that mods. But if you have some constant health regen abilities, then it's all good, i suppose. You can try wisp with that setup to see how far you can take it. I will try tomorrow and see for myself
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Tbh, I didn't test these two myself when I read on the Wiki that Energy damage doesn't count as Health DMG and therefore doesn't trigger them. Should this be untrue then the Wiki is wrong xD
@watanleidende5179
@watanleidende5179 4 месяца назад
@@MHBlacky_ENG i think it doesn't count, though, as i suggested, heath regen like with wisp may help with that setup.
@jacksonbrookes6209
@jacksonbrookes6209 4 месяца назад
89 views in 2 minutes, mr beast could never
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Well, he can other stuff :P
@spauy
@spauy 4 месяца назад
@@MHBlacky_ENGMHBlacky can explode things too. In Warframe
@IRHrok
@IRHrok 4 месяца назад
Is this the reverse of the “bro fell off” joke?
@colby8104
@colby8104 4 месяца назад
​@@IRHrokpeople just making dumb sh*t up now
@The_Ragequit_Cannon
@The_Ragequit_Cannon 4 месяца назад
Botter
@m3tal.
@m3tal. 4 месяца назад
This gonna get nerfed TOMORROW ☠️
@ulyssesthedm
@ulyssesthedm 4 месяца назад
Only for the enemies
@m3tal.
@m3tal. 4 месяца назад
@@ulyssesthedm Enemies can energy tank?
@TheDarkanianRebellion
@TheDarkanianRebellion 4 месяца назад
​@@m3tal. Yeah they can it's specifically those annoying flying drones that cast shield on enemies
@m3tal.
@m3tal. 4 месяца назад
@@TheDarkanianRebellion I didn't know they could do that
@amphal4467
@amphal4467 3 месяца назад
@@TheDarkanianRebellion thats not energy tanking lmao
@sibiris8474
@sibiris8474 4 месяца назад
Bro really unlocked blood magic in warframe.
@esperfire3779
@esperfire3779 4 месяца назад
This is fun for the memes, but limited mod slots and potentially using up your Helminth slot just to do it usually means your build suffers elsewhere, usually in damage output. With Steel Path content becoming more and more prevalent, I wouldn't really recommend going all-in on a QT build seriously.
@B1GF4TS1
@B1GF4TS1 4 месяца назад
I’ve finally got to my first incarnon. To me it’s amazing lol. Love ur content it’s helped me A LOT.
@expepem189xl3
@expepem189xl3 3 месяца назад
Well considering using operator... Isnt there straight up invul on jump throw from one of schools? I usually used it on nidus for quicker kills on steel survive, but wouldn't it be best?
@futur3wo1fxbox94
@futur3wo1fxbox94 3 месяца назад
Vazarin has the invuln on void dash
@expepem189xl3
@expepem189xl3 3 месяца назад
@@futur3wo1fxbox94 Thanks, always forgeting my school.
@killercore007
@killercore007 2 месяца назад
The problem is that it only lasts about 3-4 seconds so you have to constantly loop it, which can really cut into dps, and we know how dellusional people can be when it comes to "farming efficiency".
@kyojindesu8167
@kyojindesu8167 4 месяца назад
welp. time to upgrade my wisp.
@hehexd2896
@hehexd2896 2 месяца назад
4:30 the video starts
@Jeremus717
@Jeremus717 4 месяца назад
The tricks you show on this channel always blow my mind. Keep it coming my friend!
@LordDragon96
@LordDragon96 4 месяца назад
This can be further amplified with an arcane grace and hunters adrenaline/ rage. Quick thinking keeps you at 2 health while its triggered but any frame could get around this when procing arcane grace for that sweet health regen which gets turned into energy straight away for hunter adreanaline since your shields are depleted most of the time. For the hardcore all in players you can subsume parasitic armor to not have shields at all and just be like an inaros on any frame you don't really intend to properly forma just for EDA.
@Okaazkul
@Okaazkul 4 месяца назад
You can also do this combo with Oberon's Renewal and other heal over time abilities, instead of using Arcane Grace.
@LordDragon96
@LordDragon96 4 месяца назад
@@Okaazkul if you read the end of the comment I specifically said for EDA, most of the frames don't have healing abilites. Oberons base sp tanking build is a well known one for over 1 year now and it works well for the first 5-10minutes.
@tomj819
@tomj819 4 месяца назад
If you really wanna go crazy, use Nourish which scales Hunter Adrenaline and Rage conversion, and swap Arcane Grace for Molt Reconstruct. This with Augur mods gives you the all-important shield gate refresh that stops you getting flat out 1-tapped whilst also allowing health to fully regen you energy and energy to fully regen your health.
@tomj819
@tomj819 4 месяца назад
Okay now you have me wondering; if I use Parasitic Armor and a Dante specter, can I get energy from Overguard on any frame....?
@LordDragon96
@LordDragon96 4 месяца назад
@@tomj819 no, energy replanisment from hunters adrenaline with overguard up works only for nidus and inaros, it wasn't implemented as a general thing for everything
@skylershuman7705
@skylershuman7705 4 месяца назад
How do you "free up a mod slot" by using a different mod? I don't use Quick Thinking on any builds but Nekros Despoil. In fact, on something like my Trinity EV build (max range and strength, min duration) where I have 0 survivability mods at all, slotting in quick thinking would hurt the build. It's also not at all useful on frames like Revenant or Rhino that are innately tanky. This only seems useful on a frame that wants or has great energy economy, has great abilities at ~100% dur, rng, str & eff, has room for a helminth slot in those abilities, and is really squishy. I'm having a hard time thinking of frames where that's the case (Nekros kind of, Limbo, maybe Xaku). It's a super cool mechanic, and I appreciate all the effort you put into making the video! Keep up the good work!
@SivaExperiment
@SivaExperiment 4 месяца назад
Stynax would be great for this. And maybe Oberon too. I wonder how well hunter adrenaline works for this???
@slof69
@slof69 3 месяца назад
og chroma quick thinking rage grace tanking 4 digit level enemies and having a multiplicative damage buff i loved it
@kotlolish
@kotlolish 4 месяца назад
Inaros, low health, maximum energy, hunters discipline, health regen + equilbirium = good luck. Heck since now the purple energy drain and magnetic is off the table.. you can keep using scarab armor to just ignore that too. So immune to statuses, immune to dieing and it can spread armor strip now... yea it just lacks damage.
@lGhostWolfel
@lGhostWolfel 4 месяца назад
At that point just play voruna, can do every status in the game at max stacks in two attacks plus makes every enemy drop one or more health orbs every melee kill or energy orbs for headshot kills, slap on equilibrium and every single kill gives you a burst of energy back, not to mention if things get too heated you have invis which grants extra crit damage/chance and mobility to get you out for a bit while you recover and total status immunity on top of it with her passive, helminth eclipse on her and there you go, armor strip, high damage, high survivability, even high mobility.
@kotlolish
@kotlolish 4 месяца назад
@@lGhostWolfel Yep I do that too :P you forgot to add combat discipline so you can focus on JUST MELEE.
@lGhostWolfel
@lGhostWolfel 4 месяца назад
@@kotlolish I was just mostly focusing on what voruna's kit already had
@michelbernardotillwitz7489
@michelbernardotillwitz7489 4 месяца назад
Congrats mate, that's a really different and efficient way to be immortal in warframe, never seen any RU-vidr using this Idea before, incredible video
@WildHawk41
@WildHawk41 4 месяца назад
I'm assuming running Hunter Adrenaline or Rage wont work here since you aren't actually taking HP damage just sitting at 2HP? How does that work? I don't use those mods often.
@sketch2002
@sketch2002 4 месяца назад
I am not sure if you'll get energy back from the damage to your energy, probably not, but you'll still pull in some health orbs and other forms of healing that will get quickly removed and converted back into energy, so it can still be helpful. If you include Equilibrium then you'd get both health and energy from either orb source which would then give even more energy as the health was removed.
@WildHawk41
@WildHawk41 4 месяца назад
@@sketch2002 Sound cool in theory, but we're talking using a lot of Mod slots to make this work, almost a full build to just not die this way.
@sketch2002
@sketch2002 4 месяца назад
@WildHawk41 right. This is basically an immortal frame that relies on melee or guns.
@honestmistake8167
@honestmistake8167 4 месяца назад
It is also good to use this on a frame that doesn’t need energy to sustain their abilities. for example, Gyre with her Cathode Current augment could make her even stronger with energy tanking, as all you need to do is cast her 3 and 4 and then get a ton of kills. the electricity procs will make it harder for enemies to hit her, which makes her take less damage. slap PSF on her so she doesn’t stagger and you’ve got yourself an invincible Gyre.
@coleshovel8432
@coleshovel8432 4 месяца назад
I haven’t seen a quick thinking build in ages. Nice
@vectorlua8081
@vectorlua8081 4 месяца назад
You could use Voruna to get 100% Heavy Attack Efficiency, then using Life Strike to max your HP, and top it off with Hunter Adrenaline + optional Rage
@rikudo282
@rikudo282 4 месяца назад
Enemy factions: WHY WONT YOU DIE!? Me: Nano machines son 😏
@crisschan2463
@crisschan2463 4 месяца назад
i have this build last year when i got the free sevagoth energy tanking via parasitic armor, adaptation, max armor mod, archon shards for armor/energy turning on gloom and let me regen energy via enemy's damage, and i heal back the health cia lifesteal i use parasitic armor to get rid of the shield entirely so i can start taking damage directly from health (would be great if combat discipline works with hunter adrenaline/rage)
@amodock7606
@amodock7606 4 месяца назад
I use energy tanking with Hubter Adrenaline on my Eclipse Oberon with 5 Blue Tauforged Shards and Prime Flow and adaptation so I can simply ignore most damage while doing cracking relics in survival
@AnthanKrufix
@AnthanKrufix 4 месяца назад
There! He said it! HE SAID IT! I knew it was good. I use it to turn Warframes which have no business being tanky into tanky powerhouses with just 2 mod slots.. But nobody else was saying it until now.
@TheUmbralWolf
@TheUmbralWolf 4 месяца назад
Hmmmm, i might be able to revive my chroma with this info
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Haha maybe yes 😉
@brattybrawlers
@brattybrawlers 4 месяца назад
So glad to see this method got a buff since I last tried it. It used to stagger you when it hit your energy, so the moment you lost your health you would basically just be frozen in place until you ran out of energy.
@sm000thX
@sm000thX 4 месяца назад
Fun fact; years ago this was meta.
@Fengreki
@Fengreki 4 месяца назад
Fun fact: Styanax can effectively utilize all forms of tanking, however the build will be janky, with a total of 2 required mods and a required subsume: Quick Thinking for energy tanking, Intrepid Stand for Overguard Tanking, and Parasitic Armor for Health Tanking, which obviously means part of the build has to focus to some degree on shields, thus Shield Tanking. Dante CAN do it too, technically, but no way near as effective, since Styanax can get super high shields, giving a better lean for Parasitic Armor. And yes, I will ALWAYS find ways to make atleast 1 build on ANY decently high shield capable frame. So far I have a Chroma, Rhino, Protea, and Hildryn PA build, and will get to Styanax soon. And yes, the PA Hildryn is as weird and janky to play as you can imagine, but 30k armor is nice when you just wanna daka daka for a bit.
@fraya9
@fraya9 3 месяца назад
Everyone thinks Styanax for over shield but what about his scaling energy regen for energy tanking? I seem to remember that getting real stupid real fast.
@hobbit5556
@hobbit5556 4 месяца назад
Nooooo! Someone discovered my little trick and exposed it to the world.
@NathanTruby
@NathanTruby 4 месяца назад
The neat little trick that's existed since Quick Thinking+Trinity existed, yes
@hobbit5556
@hobbit5556 4 месяца назад
@@NathanTruby as far as I am aware, not many people valued or knew much about energy tanking.
@VertietRyper
@VertietRyper 4 месяца назад
​​@@hobbit5556because it's increasingly less useful in higher tiers of content unless it's on a frame like Trinity and Garuda and Trinity is basically dead while Garuda can survive fine without it. I'm not saying you're wrong to run it, it's just not that useful in modes where you look down and see 100+ energy disappear due to a nearby enemy, or an enemy type that can for some reason have the ability to deal multi-mil damage
@hobbit5556
@hobbit5556 4 месяца назад
@@VertietRyper well, I do not dwell on high endurance runs, so it doesn’t really matter much to me. But yeah, it can go down fast if the enemy level is a little bit high… or if you’re just bad at positioning yourself. Still, shield gating is superior, but energy shielding is still very fun and underrated for the most part.
@VertietRyper
@VertietRyper 4 месяца назад
@@hobbit5556 I don't do high endurance runs, I'm saying this build is generally useless in the higher content they keep adding solely between the damage output and energy leech stuff (eximus, modifiers, etc) and there's such a point that making a build this tanky actually counteracts your effectiveness in completing missions.
@Harwer2
@Harwer2 4 месяца назад
I was using it in the past, but now there are energy leeches and ancient distruptor on steal path can drain all your energy with one hit. With good energy maintaining it's fine defense option, but it's really hold you back from using skills. For normal missions it's really cool, but for steel path it's dont work too well, especially against infested
@mobilehacker1
@mobilehacker1 4 месяца назад
No Yareli? She has 90 percent just from Merulina, 90 from Adaptation, 75 from eclipse, add Archon Shards for energy regen and she's basically unkillable.
@VertietRyper
@VertietRyper 4 месяца назад
Arcane Pulse has a funny interaction with Equilibrium's conversion mechanic so any Warframe that drops health orbs is effectively infinite energy. I made a rather functional Nekros build based off this interaction, but it was was Nezha that I found this out on originally, who has a similar 90% paired with Adaptation's 90% plus benefitting from high armor which is 80% rn.
@DeputyFish
@DeputyFish 4 месяца назад
@@VertietRyper The extra health from Arcane Pulse is not considered as being from a health orb, and thus will not affect EquinoxIcon272 Equinox's passive or Mod TT 20px Equilibrium.
@Estus1999
@Estus1999 4 месяца назад
I've tried making this build before, I didn't realize the DR effected it. That's awesome
@ItsameDesire
@ItsameDesire 4 месяца назад
Oh, I remember this build from few years ago. Did they fix Ballistas oneshotting you through QT after 2 hours into kuva survival?
@thunderknight24
@thunderknight24 3 месяца назад
I know its not quite the same, but I have something similar to this on my Wisp. Quick thinking, Adaptation, Umbral Power and Armor, Carnis Carapace, Hunter Adrenaline, Archon Intensify, and Flow Prime, if I remember my build correctly. Use the healthy flower to get great hp and regen, let everyone bang on your health to give tons of energy, let the resistances of adaptation and the armor stack, regen keeps you topped, and if anything hits you hard enough you just don't die.
@xardaray3495
@xardaray3495 3 месяца назад
Wisp has midair invisivility and with the electrosock and healing flowers post of the time you dont even get attacked
@MrKalidascopeEyes
@MrKalidascopeEyes 4 месяца назад
Doing this with a basic trinity was how we got her 4 nurfed back in the day.
@MHBlacky_ENG
@MHBlacky_ENG 4 месяца назад
Then we should keep her in the box for now xD
@sonofabishop1412
@sonofabishop1412 4 месяца назад
Sometimes I look at my quick thinking and mods and think, "man, remember when everyone used that," really think it's been forgotten in lieu of some decent build potential
@charliedulol
@charliedulol 4 месяца назад
as a lavos main. i think i have to dislike this.
@Jaesais
@Jaesais 4 месяца назад
So energy tanking +Nourish = immortality . I completely forgot about this, thanks for the reminder! I remember they added a stagger to [Quick thinking], so I stopped using it, but now I might have to check it out again. 🧐
@Mallchad
@Mallchad 4 месяца назад
until an enemy randomly hits you for 40,000 EHP that it
@slof69
@slof69 3 месяца назад
it works for an hour into sp or so without having to care too much
@Avabees
@Avabees 4 месяца назад
Oh man i used to do this in all my builds. Good times. Forgotten older sister to health tanking
@kyleo8688
@kyleo8688 4 месяца назад
Such a big help in understanding the game. I hope other Tenno find this video early in their journey.
@lordpantero3739
@lordpantero3739 4 месяца назад
It didn’t take long for a new death gate to surface
@seag7432
@seag7432 2 месяца назад
Two questions: 1) How would the Rage mod affect this? 2) What build is he using on Xcal that lets him hit a million dmg?
@diabolo9446
@diabolo9446 2 месяца назад
Rage convert on health damages, not on energy one, also, it does convert for the damage you receive, since you have a lot to reduce it, you will not convert that much
@CephalonBread
@CephalonBread 4 месяца назад
not sure how effective it is, but hunter adrenaline/rage with quick thinking is funny because you gain EHP by losing EHP
@Kitava.
@Kitava. 4 месяца назад
I have been using this with Yareli for a long time, I'm an absolute unkillable jellyfish and carry a lot of people on Elite Archimedea with it. Now hoping this doesn't get nerfed cuz Merulina DR plus energy tanking is insane
@HadouGun
@HadouGun 4 месяца назад
What about Wukong? you won't be able to use his passive anymore.
@Cteklo7
@Cteklo7 4 месяца назад
dont play wukong then XD
@ImPhen0n
@ImPhen0n 4 месяца назад
QT will only activate once all other death prevention effects are used up.
@Tirreger
@Tirreger 4 месяца назад
I remember the Nova + Quick Thinking days.. good times
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