This Is The Pico 4! Is It Actually Worth It? | 2 Months Later

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This is my Pico 4 Review. I have had the PIco 4 for about 2 months now, this is the device that a lot of people really wanted to call the Quest 2 killer when it was first announced. However, is that really it? Does the device live up to the hype? & should you even consider it over the quest 2? We will talk about all that, and more in this video! I hope you enjoy it, and hopefully, it makes your decision choosing between devices, a bit easier :D
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@TheMysticle Год назад

Sorry guys. No description, driving 4 hours right now to a light show meetup. I will see you later!

@washingmachine1987 Год назад

at least spell review correctly, haha just a heads up

@DW-nf9qe Год назад

You're right, it isn't a competitor it's an OBVIOUS upgrade.

@washingmachine1987 Год назад

@@DW-nf9qe it's not an upgrade, but a good entry. if you own a quest 2 you shouldnt buy it, but its a good choice if its your first vr headset

@distinguishableusername Год назад

my pico 4 review

@constantine_posted Год назад

Vrs Quest Pro? 🤔🙏🏻

@jaysteppa Год назад

Great honest review! I love my Pico 4. After having the Meta quest for 2 years now, its refreshing to have a change. From day 1 of owning the Quest, I have struggled with the display, from god rays to binocular effect and not to forgot the uncomfortable factory issued head strap. Yes over the years Meta has had update after update making the device improve in performance and display. However, the Pico 4 hasn't had much updates yet, and I believe in time the Pico 4 will just get better and better. Straight out of the box the Pico 4 immediately impressed me, from the weight of the device and its compact design, to the beautiful lenses that has completely eliminated all the display flaws that I have with the Meta quest 2.

@MrTechcat Год назад

Same, not comparable headsets, the visual quality on the Quest 2 is way worse. Since day one it was clear Pico is superior headset in comfort and video quality.

@thenonexistinghero Год назад

@@MrTechcat The Pico 4 is pretty much the best option for PC VR for most. Other than a few enthusiasts who really need that lighthouse tracking for high-level competitive play. Quite honestly, if you have a great GPU the image quality of the Pico 4 really isn't going to show a lot of compression artifacts. For most games it'll be practically unnoticable even, unless you really pay good attention to look for them specifically. Half-Life Alyx looks better than it did on my G2 because it's far more pleasant and less straining for my eyes as well.

@MrTechcat Год назад

@@thenonexistinghero yep, wireless video quality is actually better than the Airlink. And another fun thing I have noticed switching between Quest and Pico.. I get around 30% better performance with Pico streaming, turns out facebook's spyware was stealing PC resources. I got even a full body tracking working with the iPhone and 20 euros app. Again no wires, no nothing.

@TheUniquewon Год назад

Could not agree more (with your comment, or with Mysticle's great balanced review). My only issue with my pico 4 is with virtual desktop. Using it with my dedicated router just crashes back to menu most of the time (yes it works fine when it has internet though). But this is not pico's fault, this is a "bug" in virtual desktop, which on my old Q2 always worked perfectly dedicated. Oh also VD still shows Q2 controllers in steam on pico... Over all though, Pico 4 is an awesome upgrade in almost every way for PC VR over the Q2. The only times (2) I have picked up my Q2 since getting it on prebuy were to play standalone Beat Saber, but honestly steam is better (and not device locked) anyway. As for software, this is not a pico issue, it is a meta bullying issue, don't confuse these. We really should not support any lock-in stores... buy from Steam (or Sidequest if they start supporting pico, and other headsets, as they have said, or buy as few games as possible and save for a PC and be happier).

@MrTechcat Год назад

@@TheUniquewon I'm using Xiaomi AX3000 WiFi6 router, works great with VD and Airlink on max settings.

@SkyEver1 Год назад

I am continually amazed at your editing skill! Actually, I'd love to learn how you do some of your production. Thanks for the review!

@Venoxium Год назад

As someone who typically uses PCVR through a USB-C instead of wireless, I would like the Pico4 a lot more if there was a "OculusDevTools" type thing to edit and raise the encoding bit rate. The good thing about the Quest2 is being able to put encode bit rate to 400~500mbps and it looks a LOT better.

@JesseThePotatoHunter Год назад

Can you do that with pico with virtual desktop?

@Venoxium Год назад

@@JesseThePotatoHunter You can use Virtual Desktop ofc but I don't like wireless personally. Which is why i specified "through a USB-C".

@thenonexistinghero Год назад

If you like to use PCVR wired, I have no idea why anyone would consider something lik the Quest 2 or Pico 4. And wirelessly Pico 4 does look a decent chunk better than the Quest 2 (both wired and wireless PC VR for that device), since the Pico 4 has a higher resolution and offers more clarity thanks to the pancake lenses. I dunno why you don't like wireless. I'm having no issues with it and the input delay for wired USB compared to wireless isn't anything higher for the Pico 4. Quite literally the only differences are that you can use Virtual Desktop wirelessly and that you're stuck with the inconvenience of a cable through USB along with Pico's own crap streaming software.

@legendp2011 Год назад

it would be better if they had display port. comparing usb headsets to display port I always notice input lag when doing expert+ beat saber

@quinnd1 Год назад

@@thenonexistinghero you can use VD wired. Either with usb/ethernet or tethered USB method.

@mica4977 Год назад

If AR improves to the point we can get 1080p recordings without glaring issues or visual artifacts then it would become a great tool for those who enjoy filming! That AR style presentation with text irl was awesome XD We can already do it easily with motion tracking on editing software but it's always nice to have more options particularly if they become very intuitive. Imagine being able to play with our 3D models or presenting them in our hands through AR as if they were a doll we could move and pose around. We do already have one VR style avatar animator/posing tool which is quite nice.

@endiedrache4677 6 месяцев назад

this is so mamdamladlkajdlkaldnkads

@N3CR0LICH Год назад

I have to say I like this video more then others as far as comparisons to other videos I’ve watched. I feel it has a more objective view. Other videos focus on the hardware comparison to the quest 2 as far as standalone. New user might find that useful as far standalone but someone who’s already in the quest eco system I doubt will switch due to having to invested in games. As Focus point for a pcvr gaming is spot on in my opinion.

@blizado3675 Год назад

To be objective is very hard on VR headsets, especially when it comes to wearing comfort. What for one user can be super comfy can be very uncomfy for others. For example many say the Pico 4 Gasket is fine for them, I can wear it for longer than 15 minutes because it didn't match my face very well so I need to narrow it more what rise the pressure in my face and then the gasket is to hard...

@spacedout4061 Год назад

Plus the pico has a nonexistent game library

@markhoekman35 Год назад

a great video as always. At the moment i`m using the Quest1 from work, and mostly together with my Desktop or laptop with steamVR. i`ve heared several people mention problems with the wireless connection between Pico 4 and pc. Do you have any idea if they will look into this?

@RossDanby Год назад

This is an excellent review, loved the video editing you did throughout and I am a fan of the scripted / professional look!

@Xilerate1 Год назад

mf you didnt finish it yet.

@TheUniquewon Год назад

I'm sorta 50/50 on the scripted/unscripted videos. Mysticle does a great job with all his videos, but I think I lean a little toward his unscripted stuff, he just seems like a great, honest guy, and that can be lost a little on the cutting room floor for play time. Either way, in my opinion, he is the best VR youtuber, doing either news or just having fun and chatting. He is always balanced and honest, and I think tries hard to skate that sensation line youtubers are forced to walk... He has my respect, doing a job that few of us really understand the difficulties of.

@drecksyutube Год назад

scripted yes but not correct in some points

@washingmachine1987 Год назад

my anxiety at 2:10 when he was hitting close to that wall is immeasurable

@anatolydyatlov963 10 месяцев назад

Great video. I've just purchased this headset, it'll arrive tomorrow, and you validated my decision. Thank you.

@thenonexistinghero Год назад

I went with a Pico 4 mainly for PC VR. As much as I want a proper RE4 in VR (not talking about the upcoming remake that will get mods for sure), the extra comfort of the Pico 4 along with an IPD that's actually wide enough for me (along with the pancake lenses) were a more important factor for me. It's a shame we'll probably never see the original RE4 in VR outside of the Quest. I guess maybe if the Quest 3 is a jump big enough I might get it and actually get to play it, but... that's not happening until at least late this year either at the earliest.

@Red8675309666 Год назад

I dont want to rub it in but.... that RE4 in VR is freakin amazing. ATLEAST we now have a mod to get RE7 in PCVR. How stupid was capcom for not doing that themselves? RE7 was absoulately amazing in PSVR and i cant wait to play in PCVR once i finish 4.

@thenonexistinghero Год назад

@@Red8675309666 I'm playing through RE7 on PC with the VR mod right now, but quite honestly I'm not enjoying it all that much. I'm a few hours into the game and I haven't encountered a single enemy I could kill yet. It's just hide & seek for most part (at least up till now). I'm not a fan of constantly having to run around avoiding unkillable enemies while having to check every inch of your environment. It doesn't even feel like an RE game in any way.

@Red8675309666 Год назад

@@thenonexistinghero it switches gears soon. You'll get to the point of combating everything soon. Keep at it. It's a great game

@i2ossi_367 Год назад

glad i came across this review, currently have a Rift S, was thinking of getting a Quest 2 or going triple screens as i solely play iRacing with Beat Saber now and again, so seeing you say the Pico4 would be the better option for PC gaming has made up my decision

@SjaakSchulteis Год назад

Man you have grown up. I actually liked this video. I subscribed again..... About the Pico, you didn't mention it, but the sound from the speakers of the Pico is much better than on the Quest. I play mainly PCVR with it and though I have to turn up the sound to its highest level, it is then loud enough to enjoy playing and I don't miss a headphone. I have the Quest as my fitness machine and there I like it a little louder and use my earplugs to get that loudness. I like both my headsets. The Quest really riped since its start (just like you did lol), but the Pico has so much potential and I hope they continue improving it.

@attrib Год назад

This is one of the most honest reviews I've seen about the Pico 4. As a Pico 4 owner, I fully agree of what you've said. I love my Pico 4, it's a great device and I have been using it a lot for PCVR and not so much for the standalone titles. So for anyone reading this and is looking for a headset to use mainly for PCVR: go for the Pico 4 128GB version. Don't buy the 256GB model, because I bought it and I have plenty of storage left on the headset because you only need Virtual Desktop from the Pico store to have a great PCVR experience.

@traktor321 Год назад

Can i ask you for your PC specs and does it have Netflix ?

@Pxi145 Год назад

I love the way you edited the video i clearly saw an improvement also great video !👍

@dtz1000 Год назад

Seems like a very fair review. I have heard it's better as a PCVR device from other RU-vidrs as well.

@Satsuki1000 Год назад

I think you did really well on this video! I like scripted content a lot and I didn't even notice you looking at your screen before you mentioned it. Good job!

@TroyHill442 Год назад

I love this device. I love showing it to people. Their reactions are always one of total fascination, especially with that rich 8k/60fps/180° stuff 😉

@Majorpain32677 7 месяцев назад

8 k lol you wish

@dallelama8874 Год назад

I need to mention an extra little detail, and that's the sound, I think this is a pretty big upgrade to 😊 But spot on with this video 👍

@alexseymour1242 Год назад

I still remember the stream you showed us the Pico and the car stream when there was blind spots all over the stream lol

@technologicalelite8076 Год назад

5:27 Yo, didn't know mirrors could show that you have the sabers 🤣 Edit: BRO WHAT IS THAT INTRO SONG? I have an ear worm now!

@ThePerfectRed Год назад

Just a note on the face interface, the replacement GeekVR is a great improvement.

@ryzen_inu Год назад

Thank you so much for this video. It helped me understand the main and most important differences of the Pico 4 and the Meta Quest 2. I will now make an informed purchase in the future (probably the pico 4) :)

@mr.man200 Год назад

I mean- I'm prolly buying the quest 2 bcuz the software and games is much better, and I would rather sell my data to Facebook then let a Chinese company have full colour cameras in my room and my data.

@ryzen_inu Год назад

@@mr.man200 I am planning to use it mainly as a wireless PCVR solution while nothing better hits the market. I find the IPD ajustment of the Quest 2 doesn't fit my eyes just right. Also, this is just a preference of mine, but the resolution and pancake lenses compensate for the lower 90hz refresh rate. Even being used to gaming on a 144hz monitor, I believe resolution is currently the path to choose over refresh rate.

@ravenstarfire8816 Год назад

Are you able to play Oculus games from the Oculus Rift store like you can on the quest or it it just limited to Steam games?

@fLaMePr0oF Год назад

Great fair review. It's possible to force Virtual Desktop to connect over USB using USB tethering, the performance is extremely good 😉Worth doing for anyone who doesn't have a WiFi 6 router

@SuperMegaToto Год назад

When I did that I got a blue screen (which yes, is a common problem) How did you avoid that?

@fLaMePr0oF Год назад

@@SuperMegaToto I followed this guide... *watch?v=XxxweFVNyR0* Just need to change driver Windows uses for USB tethering to avoid blue screens

@fLaMePr0oF Год назад

@@SuperMegaToto Also there's another guide on that channel for using a USB-C to Ethernet adapter then ethernet to your router, haven't tried it yet but apparently is seamless with no blue screen issues and the lowest possible network latency (as Android automatically supports and mounts USB to ethernet adapters) In his test this guy is getting 2-3 ms network latency with that method!

@rony9225 Год назад

I switched to the Pico 4 from the Quest 2 and the bigger resolution, better lenses and better comfort really makes a huge difference. It brought back my will to use VR. I don't miss 120Hz at all since my PC can't even get to that frame rate at decent graphics. You have to take into account that more pixels do hit performance, but for me it's totally worth it. PCVR works just fine (with or without VirtualDesktop). The standalone catalog does suck by a great margin, and I direly miss having VRchat in a portable device but it's about it. Apart from that I say it's worth the switch.

@ad1340yt Год назад

no beat saber or vrc so no, and the pico 4 isnt even like sick compared to the quest 2 its just like 10% better in some ways, and plus the quest 2 released like 3 or 2 years ago so I would say the pico 4 should have been ALOT better, id rather wait for the quest 3 lol

@aaronelfven Год назад

@@ad1340yt Totally agree with you, the lack of beatsaber is a big bummer. However I recently bought the pico 4 and already own the quest 2 and I can tell you that the difference between the clearity of the screens are very noticable. Plus the lenses on motors is super handy when you have diffrent people playing in turns. I honestly think it would be hard going back to the quest 2 playing pcvr after experiencing half life alyx on the pico. That said competition is always good, hoping Meta releases the quest 3 soon!

@martinnista4162 Год назад

I own both devices too and tbh for me the Pico 4 was a huge disappointment. Apart from the fact that the Quest 2 offers many (!) more games and content is king in VR, Pico Streaming doesn't work very well either. Then people have to hope for Virtual Desktop, which works well for some of them but not great for others. It was no different with the Quest (2). AirLink works better on some PC WIFI setups and Virtual Desktop on other ones. With the Pico, however, it becomes a problem because one has no longer a good choice. I think the facial interface of the Pico 4 is terrible and I hear from people everywhere that they are just waiting for VRCover to finally replace this thing. It also has such an awkward shape that the Pico 4 creates a fisheye effect for some people because the eyes are too far away from the lenses. I have that issue too. The Pico 4 headstrap is okay but there are much better 3rd party ones out there for the Quest 2, which makes it more comfortable for me than the Pico 4 one which is not interchangeable. In the end my Pico 4 is a joke for standalone VR games compared to the Quest 2, Wireless PCVR also works pretty poorly, I see everything with fisheye optics and the thing isn't very comfortable either.

@aaronelfven Год назад

@@martinnista4162 Sad to hear. As mentioned earlier I think the lack of content is a big problem for pico, which hopefully will be fixed in the future. Until then I have to agree 100% that the quest 2 is miles ahead at that front. I personally don't experience any of the problems you have with fish eye and connection issues. For me the diffrence between the two are major. I was blown away first time I played the quest 2. Playing the Pico 4 gave me the exact same feeling yet again. Being able to read all the text on screen without any blurryness is crazy. I guess I should be thankfull that it works so well for me cuz I've seen people with similar criticism as yours. All in all I hope Meta releases another gaming focused headset soon that works well for everybody!

@martinnista4162 Год назад

@@aaronelfven I'm glad that the Pico 4 exists and that there is competition now. We as customers can only benefit from this. That was the reason I bought the Pico 4 on day 1 to support it. But I was just really hoping for more. The Pico 4 is designed as a standalone VR gaming device. Many people were dissatisfied that it doesn't offer a display port and Pico replied that their Pico Neo 3 Link is primarily intended for PCVR. That makes sense and they have clearly defined the market they are targeting with the Pico 4 - standalone VR gaming. Only then do they have to measure themselves in it. How is it possible that in an established market with exclusive titles for the Quest 2 like Beat Saber, Resident Evil 4, The Climb, Robo Recall, Medal of Honor etc. Pico released a competing standalone video game console without a single game of their own? Just nothing. Why doesn't the Pico 4 has any kind of own identity? Whether it's features, UI, store just everything is pretty much an exact copy of the Quest but with less features and polish. I see no own ideas or anything new for the market. I really wish to see competition on par with Meta, but the Pico 4 feels more like a Chinese knockoff product to me right now.

@friskaprime8549 Год назад

love the video, had everything I wanted to know great job ^-^

@razzledazzlecheeseontoast9808 Год назад

Really liked how comfortable and self-assured you seemed in this one, not that you didn't before but I'm noticing more of a subtle confidence to your voice. I hope you recognise that, you should feel proud, the quality of your videos is definitely going from strength to strength. It's always nice to see how much you clearly enjoy what you're doing brother.

@ProgrammistMusic Год назад

owning a Quest 2 and Pico 3+4, i actually use the Pico 4 almost every day for PCVR only. But i am also aware of the flaws and downsides of this headset. You can see more screendoor effect on the Pico 4. The controllers need 2 instead of 1 battery and do not have a resting place for the thumb, which makes games like (table) tennis almost unplayable. The image stability of native games is not as good as on the Quest 2. Games like RESIST do stutter in horizontal movement, whereas on the Quest 2 it's butter smooth. There is some warping visible when you move your head, that can cause motion sickness, although you can get used to it if you are an experience VR gamer. The headstrap is better than the Quest 2, but you cannot mod this one to fit perfectly (yet), since it's not replacable. You cannot easily plug in a headphone due to the missing 3,5mm jack. Although the image is noticeably clearer the overall image is not very well calibrated, so you can see more light/dark areas and also the image is darker than on Quest 2. But again, you can get used to it. Nevertheles, for PCVR, especially if you can run at maximum resolution, the visuals are clearer compared to the Quest 2 and if you use Virtual Desktop with a good RTX GPU, which can handle fast and high quality HEVC Encoding you can really have a lot of fun with the Pico 4, especially for the low price.

@SjaakSchulteis Год назад

Screendoor effect on the Pico??? What? Where? When?

@ProgrammistMusic Год назад

@@SjaakSchulteis i can see pixels and the raster map on the Pico 4, whereas on the Pico 3 and also Quest 2 it's pretty much invisible. But i personally don't bother the screendoor effect on the Pico 4 that much.

@bullshitdepartment Год назад

@@ProgrammistMusic mightve gotten a lemon, i heard their QC controll is ass especially on the lenses

@ProgrammistMusic Год назад

@@bullshitdepartment yes, i heard that too. I think i was just lucky to get one that works. It's not perfect though. I wear glasses and i have quite some reflections going on, but i simply got used to it and don't see this while playing.

@bullshitdepartment Год назад

@@ProgrammistMusic i suggest trying some contacts if u can, i have terrible vision and i remembr trying VR with glasses was always a PIA until i stopped being lazy and learned how to put on contacts easily. The 1-day ones are the best bcs they are so thin u dont feel em at all.

@ristopoho824 Год назад

Weird to say, but i agree on literally everything you said. I personally use mine primarily for PCVR, but a little standalone too. Not a single bit of regret getting this instead of quest 2. But some friends who are edging towards getting a VR headset, i have recommended quest 2 instead. Just for the game catalog. You really need a somewhat powerful PC for PCVR, mine is on the edge of not being enough.

@cv3nda367 Год назад

are you using Virtual Desktop or the Streaming Assistant ? for me, SA was unusable, horrible latency and/or image quality, Ive returned my Pico 4 ... wired Quest 2 is still the best PCVR I can play right now

@ristopoho824 Год назад

@@cv3nda367 Virtual desktop. I really consider it as an essential piece, the streaming assistant needs a hecking lot of work still. So if someone asks how much pico 4 costs it really needs to have the 20€ added for the VD

@thanetworknerd Год назад

Use Performance VR Toolkit to make it run more efficiently

@ristopoho824 Год назад

@@thanetworknerd How the heck have i not heard of this before? Thank you really, i'll dig a bit more and test but it seems like people get just pretty much free performance from it. And tuning options, i like those. Thank you.

@thanetworknerd Год назад

@@ristopoho824 got you bro 👍🏻 I have a 2060 so trust, any little performance I could squeeze would be really helpful and this really changed the game for me in a whole way, some titles where I struggled to get 50FPS i achieve nearly 100FPS now. Probably the only “performance trick” that I’ve seen online that really does do numbers on your FPS and Graphics quality. My basic understanding is that this functions identically to DLSS for our graphics cards and honestly it’s great, the fidelity looks a lot better.. like if you cleaned the lens a lot more or something. Hard to describe but it’s like when your mirror is fogged from a shower and you wiped off the glass. It’s pretty easy to install to your game files as well, I suggest you look into it. Hopefully this helps! Spread the word fam

@Skeeva007 Год назад

Great review! Nicely done 🔥

@TheMysticle Год назад

Thanks Skeeva! This one was a little different and took me quite some time, so it means a lot ♥️ Even though I still managed to miss some things. Hopefully I'll get better at reviews over time.

@ThePhk5 Год назад

nice video, question if I install elite dangerous on my pc will the pico 4 run that game , I know very little about this stuff this ol` man needs your guidance, thanks phil.

@loganladue2 Год назад

Great info man. Was wondering about p4 but is it better than the o2 plus? Ignoring price obviously 😆

@FatNorthernBigot Год назад

I have the Pico 4, and I appreciate your impartial review. Virtual desktop PCVR is completely stunning with the Pico. I'll never go back to the Quest.

@Red8675309666 Год назад

you have quest 2 also? I currently own and want clearer visuals. how is FOV compared for you?

@beanslol1725 Год назад

@@Red8675309666 I notice not many cover this, I ordered a pico instead of a replacement oculus some my new oculus I got was acting weird. It’s not here yet but the fov is 105 compared to the oculus’s what 96? Fov so already a good difference there, more immersive if fov is an important factor for you

@Red8675309666 Год назад

@@beanslol1725 Thank you. Hope you enjoy

@unendingquandary Год назад

A very well balanced review. I just ordered a Pico 4 yesterday. I wanted a PCVR headset, but also wanted the option to use it stand-alone. I thought the Pico 4 looked like a great option for someone who, like me, will be using it as a hybrid VR headset. And for the price it seems hard to have much buyer's remorse. I would have liked to see 120hz to pair with the increased 8 GB of RAM over the Quest 2, but 90hz should be more than serviceable. The real question will be how the Pico storefront and developer support looks over time. If we start seeing apps like VR Chat and Beat Saber come to the system we'll know it's a true competitor to the Quest 2.

@joelcoll4034 Год назад

Unfortunately Beat Saber was bought by meta so it will not come to pico, the same thing that happens in consoles is happening in vr

@unendingquandary Год назад

@@joelcoll4034 Well the company claimed that its acquisition by Meta will not influence where it sells Beat Saber, but I could see Pico being the exception if there's going to be one. 😅

@joelcoll4034 Год назад

@@unendingquandary That's good but we already know what happened to the promises that oculis made when it was bought by Meta

@basseman4239 Год назад

had a pico 4, for about a week. for me the most important factor is that the sweetspot and clarity is way bigger. vr usually give me head ache after a while which this also seems to give me. but it´s not that bad compared to others. i believe that it´s because of the sweetspot. where the others had such small spots. mostly played with the earliest oculus headsett. where i believe that i got right spot on one eye and not the other, making it very straining. If you want to try vr this is just better overall. and primarily if you may have some issues with the eyes. in my case i have classes and my eye are not in perfect line with each other. which makes the sweetspot and clarity more important.

@blizado3675 Год назад

I noticed on the edge of the lenses on the outside some light distortions, maybe it comes from there. I hope they can fix that problem. Also the padding of the face gasket can be an issue, I can't wear it that long because it didn't match my face very good so I need to wear it a bit more narrow what rises the pressure in my face enough, that I have after 10 minutes already big fat red pressure points in my face, what I didn't had with my Reverb G2 and also not with my Pico Neo 3 Link, which is softer than on the Pico 4.

@basseman4239 Год назад

@@blizado3675 i believe that another issue with light and such is that it´s lenses. and that such stuff is not easily fixed. that is what i believe unless there exist som kind of system that use some laser or something that lights up straight att the eyes using no lenses at all. the tech is not there yet when it come to vr. when i tried pico 4 i just expected more, after i have been playing the first vr, oculus rift to this, i don´t feel like the difference really is that big, even though better sweetspot and sharper. it´s just not a huge difference. for me at least, but good enough.

@toneydeebo360 Год назад

This was an extremely well put together Review.

@Chmpy Год назад

i have a pico 4 since 1 month now and before, SteamVR was very laggy but there has been an update recently and now it works just fine don't know if it's only for Pico users or Quest 2 too

@apc3559 Год назад

strictly PCVR, have had my quest 2 since launch. pico 4 arrived from across the pond this weekend. side loaded the phone app and got virtual desktop. the headset is fantastic. the weight, resolution, lenses, and FOV improvements coming from the Q2 are immediately apparent. the superior cooling is also a big bonus. I never use 120hz on the Q2 anyway as it gets too hot and smokes batteries, so nothing lost there. but I will say that one of the first things I did was order an aftermarket facial interface. the stock one is *awful*, presses hard on my cheekbones and gives me a headache. so I may still be daily driving my Q2 until the boat arrives with the new one. otherwise I'm happy with it and look forward to raving hard!

@ChristmasLore Год назад

Please, what's the phone app, and what about watching movies/tv shows, VR tourism? Any experiences with that? 🌿

@vsappel 8 месяцев назад

I got bad lucky, my unit have wavy lenses

@bigbadboogie6842 Год назад

Have the pico 4, in Virtual desktop theres an option to connect to your Oculus...now meta... catalogue. I never bothered testing it out, but its there. For oculus/meta users wanting a better headset, that might be a deal breaker is my guess. Test it and make a video? You would be the first :) plus id love a tutorial :)

@-racingfan2014 Год назад

If Pico adds a displayport and 3.5mm jack and add 100 dollar even, it would be the killer PCVR headset offering wireless and wired.

@spacedout4061 Год назад

Except the wireless is complete dogshit

@nytrouz_original Год назад

Using a ethernet cable works greate

@thetwitchywarlock 9 месяцев назад

@@nytrouz_originalhow?

@exodous02 Год назад

What are the visuals compared to the quest pro? The both use pancake lenses, and the resolution on the Pico 4 is higher, but reading text, how is that? I was almost going to buy the quest pro just to use on VR desktop and Immersed but someone on the immersed discord said to look at the pico 4 first. 1/3 the price of the pro seems like it would make it the winner but clarity on computer work is more important to me. Plus the quest pro has eye and face tracking. Have no idea what to buy.

@blizado3675 Год назад

Fair video. Have nothing really to add. Beside maybe, that some underrate the feature to install APKs. You can use for example XBox Game Pass Ultimate to stream flat games online to your Pico 4, same with other such services. Of course you can also stream Steam Flat games to the Pico 4 without using VD. Or you use a Shadow Cloud PC for VR and Flat streaming from everywhere you have a good enough Internet connection. You can also use Android Emulators to play retro games inside Pico 4. There are a lot interesting Android apps you can easily use with the Pico 4, all thanks to the nativ support of APKs which is all much more complicated on the Quest 2. Meta blocks a lot of Android features what Pico 4 didn't block and that makes that headset even more versatile.

@yacub6597 Год назад

i am at the moment of typing this, watching on the pico 4, in the USA. I'm upgrading from the quest 1 and I love it. I have PC so I don't care about the smaller library. I found an APK for the phone app. I think the pico 4 is a great option if you have a PC because it works great with wireless PCVR.

@dylanfield7098 Год назад

I’m also probably going to upgrade from the Quest 1 to the Pico 4 sometime in the summer. I’ve already done all the research on how to get it in the U.S. and managed to download the Pico app on my iPhone so I’m optimistic. There are many free games that look pretty good too

@LeanChillen Год назад

Do you think the new quest 2 update that's said to give a 19% gpu boost is going to make a big difference between the 2?

@muskwasis1705 Год назад

I love this device and sold my MQ2. The only thing I miss is multitasking.

@andrazskusek4604 Год назад

So if I do yet own a VR headset and I plan to use it for both standalone gaming and PCVR I should get Pico 4?

@Paradigmfusion Год назад

I ordered one myself, will be ehre today, even have some prescription lenses coming today too. should be a good time :) I do wish trhere were more accessories for it though.

@vuklind_9301 Год назад

How has been your experience so far?

@Paradigmfusion Год назад

@@vuklind_9301 way better than I was expecting. Especially after I got prescription lenses for it. My only really gripe is the lack of content on the Pico market (for now) but compared to the quest 2, it’s just a better headset in my opinion. Way more comfortable better lenses. Higher FoV, higher resolution and paired with Virtual Desktop (I can’t get the Pico streaming app to work wireless) it’s just a better overall experience. Even enough to return the Quest Pro when I picked it up when it’s price dropped. After about 30 minutes, it was boxed back up and on its way back to Best Buy.

@MASTERCRAFT938 Год назад

Hello there and Merry Christmas Mysticle :D

@DevDunkStudio Год назад

I share mostly the same opinion after using both the pico 4 and quest 2 for a while! All the games I need except beat saber I own on the pico 4 right now as well

@MarceloMeireles Год назад

I wanna know about the comfort and adaptation with the glasses. You use glasses. It looks like you can comfortably use them in the VR.

@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf Год назад

To have more games to play. You can play oculus games straight from the oculus store, all you need to do is buy them though virtual desktop from the store and open them in the games tab

@publicname515 8 месяцев назад

How does this passthrough on the Pico 4 compare to the Quest 3 mixed reality? My use case is Microsoft Flight Simulator using a knee board and a keyboard. Thanks

@feather9658 Год назад

im on my 4th headset with the pico 4, the previous being the quest 2, og vive and rift cv-1. id say for pcvr the pico is better but only for those willing to put in a bit of work. im in na, and imported the headset. a major problem is that apparently some people are not having good experiences due to the lenses or the camera not coming the way it should and not looking how it should, i, fortunately, got lucky with my lenses but not the passthrough with it having a pitch black bar straight through the center of it. aside from this, through VD (virtual desktop) i have found that the pico 4 lasts slightly longer than the quest 2. issue is theres 3rd party addons to fix that and extend it waaay beyond the point of what the pico 4 can provide such as bobovr's m2 pro/plus. they made an adaptor that i custom rigged to the pico 4 to fix this however. THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR NA BUYERS is that the pico app for me was not available to download on google play, and i instead had to download an apk in order to get the app, after this the setup was fine. (you need the phone app to input a payment method to buy anything on the pico 4 store). another massive issue is the bluetooth audio for the pico 4 is awful. not quality wise, but delay wise. theres around 400ms of delay normally, and you cant plug in a usb-c to usb-c and audio port because for whatever reason, even if your headset that you are plugging in doesnt have a mic, it will try to use it, meaning in VD you have no microphone if you do it this way. this leaves you with one option pretty much, and thats bluetooth headphones to a pc. overall if you are willing to go through the pain of the setup for all of this the pico is much much better, from microphone to lenses, but definately not in comfort suprisingly as it presses too hard on the average persons middle of their forehead.

@TheUniquewon Год назад

I use an adaptor from amazon (there's lots of them) that splits the usb-c port on the pico into a usb-c (for battery) and a 3.5 inch headphone jack. Works great and is very cheap. Just search for something like USB-C to audio, there's many options. The delay is almost zero, but I think they use slightly more battery (not an issue if you get the splitter version like me and use a power bank - either way it's going to be a lot less power then bluetooth).

@vsappel 8 месяцев назад

@@TheUniquewon i have wavy lenses =(

@SwarleyU Год назад

I'm still rocking an old Samsung WindowsMR & would pick up a Pico 4 for an upgrade in a heartbeat if they would start selling it in Canada.

@purrpocalypse Год назад

What knuckle straps are you using? They don't look like the Pico ones for sale.

@ironmedsvr Год назад

Do you know if quest 3 pass through will look better? Pico 4 vs quest pro pass through, which is better? I heard quest pro has Grey spots.

@AnotherAnonymousMan Год назад

Forgot to mention that with Virtual Desktop you can literally play your quest catalogue games!

@Pjotrrr60 Год назад

Only Rift PCVR games (to clarify your post)

@Itsallgoodtogo Год назад

PICO4 is the best wireless PCVR hands down. Pancake lenses with the higher resolution make it a game changer ... Seeing 75% of your image in focus instead of like 30% with regular lenses is so understated.

@Pjotrrr60 Год назад

Agreed and the binocular overlap is better then 90% of more expensive competition.. Sold my Reverb G2 and my friend will sell his Index for it.

@tuckermyrick2609 Год назад

I sold my Varjo Aero man. This thing is way better, at a fraction of the cost.

@TheUniquewon Год назад

Yes. This is absolutely the big one, it way more than over compensates for any lack of standalone software or slightly lower tracking quality. In my opinion, unless you have NO intention of moving to better (PC)VR, EVER, the Pico is the way to go. It is absolutely worth the upgrade if you can afford it.

@Pjotrrr60 Год назад

@@tuckermyrick2609 Wow...Did not expect that, what's the main thing Pico is better?

@shtrae Год назад

Hello, im planning on buying the Pico 4 and a router for it, but i dont know what router to buy, because i dont think that paying an extra 80$ its worth it, any recomendations?

@GreenInvasion Год назад

Hi, what about the FOV? How does it compare to the Quest 2?

@TroyParry74 Год назад

I ordered the Pico 4 the other day and cancel last minute. I have a quest 2 now. My research: Pico game reviews, many people complaining that it’s not as good as the quest 2 version, many saying the quality not as high, or lacking features. Quest 2 has all the same games, plus more. Because Meta bought over gaming companies, giving them exclusive rights to the games. This alone made me choose the quest 2. The Pico 4 is much lighter and better weight distribution, longer battery. But ultimately it comes down to the games themselves.

@MrTechcat Год назад

I have upgraded from Quest 2, the difference is huge in comfort and visual quality. Upgrade in visuals alone was worth for me to upgrade. With quest only center of view is good quality, with Pico the whole view is perfect as far as eye can see, that totally changed the whole VR immersion for me. I made a video about that on my channel.

@RogerEssigArtist Год назад

Pancake lenses are amazing. Loving my Quest Pro. Once you go pancake, you do not go back.

@marphil1303 Год назад

Question: I use an Oculus GO, and I only use it to watch Netflix, RU-vid and Prime movies and series. Does it make sense to buy a Pico?

@mohammedalghamdi3737 Год назад

What happened to the Pimax Crystal coverage that you mentioned like 3 weeks ago.

@Ren3gaid Год назад

Btw., is it normal that in the view is blurry on the sides? The centre is focussed but not the surrounding (sorry if I explained it somehow difficult 😅)

@angrybeaver6667 Год назад

Very well put together review. I just bought a pico 4 to replace my aging index. can't wait to see how it compares for PCVR.

@Steadymobbin711 Год назад

Any updates?

@angrybeaver6667 Год назад

@@Steadymobbin711 I’m on vacation but the short of it is, I’m back to using the index. Pico compression is still visible and I need a wired uncompressed feed to be happy.

@Steadymobbin711 Год назад

@@angrybeaver6667 appreciate it!

@JoshAblaze Год назад

I've owned CV1, Rift s, Quest 1 and 2 and I've ended up taking long breaks from vr so I end up getting rid of my stuff or upgrading I took a year break so i sold my vr to my friend decided to come back and try the Pico 4 compared the Quest 2 I think it's a lot better as I play through PCVR and I have a gaming router I have no issues with VirtualDesktop and this is one of best Headsets I've ever owned in my opinion only issue for me is the lenses on top are a bit blurry but I dont look up often so it doesn't bother me that much but i'm really enjoying this headset so far owned it for couple weeks but will give regular updates about headset and how I'm getting on with it also downfall is I cant see anywhere to buy replacement controllers incase I break one but if I do break one and can get one through support i'll update on that! I also much prefer the Pico headgasket compared to the Oculus it doesn't leave marks or hurt my face.

@Pjotrrr60 Год назад

I have seen replacement controllers on Aliexpress some time ago...

@JoshAblaze Год назад

@@Pjotrrr60 I appreciate that! I know theres chance i'll probs break em from being my goofy self

@justanotherdave4835 Год назад

I think the most of the missing older games does not matter since you have either completed the games or will never play them not having beatsaber native sucks unless you use mods/customs songs then you are gonna go pcvr anyway. Waiting a bit longer for the ports it a bummer i agree but i am i mostly using it for pcvr and also for just a media device (watching movies/tv/youtube) is way better than the quest with the improved resolution and clarity. Also using it to simulate a giant monitor for flat screen gaming is actually nice with the improved clarity since text looks so much better and is actually legible now

@cyberboy9550 Год назад

I noticed that your WiFi network name is the same as mine: Nighthawk. What a coincidence, lol

@g43s Год назад

5:55 that sweer colored passthrough

@zaubermaus8190 Год назад

hmm, would i be able to use a game apk i pulled off the quest 2 with the adb pull command on the pico 4? maybe you can investigate since you have both headsets available?

@Pjotrrr60 Год назад

Nope, games have to be ported to Pico by the devs...

@zaubermaus8190 Год назад

@@Pjotrrr60 sadge

@Everythingbagel848 Год назад

quick question if anyone responds: could i buy the $160 5 leg things and assign two for my arms and the rest for my legs? Edit: would i still be able to play with my vr chat friends that don't have beta? also i asked this in the slime video but no-one responded

@trevorollerenshaw5267 Год назад

Anyone else noticing glare/internal reflections when looking at bright objects in VR, I read somewhere that it's normal for these type of pancake lenses? for example, if I hold one of the controllers up to my face (which is white in VR) and slowly move it from right to left, the whole lens shimmers, which I can only describe as the glare you get when a car window hasn't been cleaned properly.

@mosch9360 Год назад

Yes they seem to glow i think thats normal (whites down the picture a bit :-7)

@blrryface Год назад

After watching this video, i decided that i will probably get the Pico 4 to mainly play PCVR and do standalone every once in a while. Very useful "reviee"

@cv3nda367 Год назад

Dont ... just get Quest 2, better games, better PCVR ... I bought PICO 4 as soon as it released and tested it against Quest 2, and PICO 4s PCVR software is utter trash. They would have to update it over many weeks and months to get as good as Quests PCVR software. Alternatively, buy Virtual Desktop, its as good on PICO 4 as it is on Quest

@ChairyCrasher Год назад

@@cv3nda367 my ipd is 70-72 so it's worth it for me

@tupperdoseplastique8707 Год назад

@@cv3nda367 did you tried virtual desktop? Mine works flawlessly with it. Well the WiFi 6 room .

@nigelfitzgerald3616 Год назад

Regards PCVR . Anyone know how does this compare using Virtual Desktop to the 3 Link with the data cable ? I have a GeForce 1080 TI.

@mackychloe Год назад

I still can't get a confirmation on whether the pico 4 can run Bigscreen?? or is it fixed to their version of it??

@B.f.u.m.a.o.s_official Год назад

Hey uhhh does it feel like a valve index controller from the straps and the tracking ring?

@concernedviewer6909 Год назад

I'd say the main selling point is AR capability. Everything else is too close to choose the pico over the quest with all the dev support quest gets

@everend_xyz Год назад

I am looking for a vr set to be able to model within unreal engine 5 which one would you recommend? Guys. I am thinking even neo 3 I dont want it to cost much because I am thinking of meta autumn presentations or save for ps vr2

@mp8519 Год назад

just got off vr and this was waiting for me

@ren8848 7 месяцев назад

i got a glasses with -6 in my eye, is it still good if i buy pico 4?

@rushmore3927 Год назад

How is the quality when comparing movie viewing with the P4 and Q2? Seems the P4 should, in theory, look more clear and be better than the Q2.

@tiled_ Год назад

The Pico, for beginners, who have never owned a VR headset, I think it could be a good choice. The only problem is that it’s not available in the US, and may not ever be

@Minecraft-3699 Год назад

lets sure hope its never availible in the US

@cyanyde4950 Год назад

@@Minecraft-3699 why do you say that ? it's be a solid starter pc vr headset with a better experience than quest and will be more comfortable and lighter and probably cheaper than an index which is still crazy it's nearly $900 to this day after being out for years now.

@dylanfield7098 Год назад

@@cyanyde4950 probably because ByteDance owns it?

@8bitbunny_VR Год назад

@@cyanyde4950 seconded. i have a index, pico neo 3 link, and pico 4. heck, i even did some network monitoring on how much pico is collecting in the background to it's servers, not really in the danger zone compared to meta, which i find does more communicating to the main company than pico (buddy with their quest 2 comes over sometime at my place, hence im able to check). more choice = better. this way people can decide for themselves on what they want.

@Minecraft-3699 Год назад

@@cyanyde4950 the headset is fine, the massive national security threat that is the company that makes the headset is not.

@JadeyJ4d3y Год назад

the problem I have with this headset (and the reason why I didn’t buy it despite being available in my country) is due to the lack of an audio-out port like the quest 2 and even if i were to use it for pcvr, id have to plug my headphones into an adapter for the usb c port, which only leaves me with wireless pcvr which i dont trust to be that smooth at all

@VapeStation5 Год назад

Is there no way to connect bluetooth headphones to the Pico 4?

@repsejnil Год назад

@@VapeStation5 you can.

@TheUniquewon Год назад

I use an adaptor from amazon that has both a 3.5 inch and usb-c passthrough for battery passthrough. This should work fine with a link to computer I would imagine as well.

@JAKOB1977 Год назад

c'mon that USB-c port on the Pico4 aint it like 3.2 or USB3.1.. so you have tons of bandwith I use mine with these thundertbolt magnetic 24 pin 100watt 40gbps magnetic plugs, so can easily connect very small NVMe drives or USB thumbsticks, or docks. I even use it for thermal.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PMRX9T5-QG0.html and ofcoursse the smallest problem is cabled audio, as anybody under the sun have these 3.5mm jack to TypeC dongles that have been comming with any mobile for like 5 years. anx I can also just plug it to my 55" 4K LG OLED and I get a direct 4K60 out . For thirdparty audio I use these Qualcom sound with qualcoom loseless Aptx, and Adaptive Aptx and all that jazz + harald blåtand BT5.3.. its packing one the highest and lastest Qualcom chips called Edifier W220T was a tad over 40 USD with incl. shipping and incl. danish 25% VAT. and I do like that I can just start either spotify on the headsets or a flac android player on the headset, and get my music, while also getting the sfx from the game combined. fx ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-30gQkz8J0vk.html

@JadeyJ4d3y Год назад

@@VapeStation5 there is, except the issue is that there’s a latency thing, i asked one of the pico staff during that roadshow and they told me that

@WilliamShinal Год назад

Lately the Pico 4 has tanked to about 400 dollars and is being shipped to the US by XRshop, so instant purchase when I get the chance.

@cparoli1111 Год назад

Does it charge while playing with the pico link cable?

@Teckno77 7 месяцев назад

So does the Pico 4 need a usb -c thats connected to the GPU or is it like the quest two where it's just using it for data, I'm confused now after watching this. I have a laptop with usb c but not gpu linked

@MinhNguyen-qb4fi 5 месяцев назад

It doesn't need to be connected to the GPU

@skiroviepcvr7792 Год назад

Well, I have a Quest 2 but I think It's not too much of a difference to switch for a Pico Neo 4 because for me Quest 2 is still better because the most important for me is to see and move well on VR when I use it. I still do not have FBT but I would like to buy one that works well and is the most cheaper price possible because I am not going to use it all the time, just if I needed it.

@skiroviepcvr7792 Год назад

@@foxy-48514 Thank you, I using Midjurney (Ai) to made it. 😋

@skiroviepcvr7792 Год назад

@@foxy-48514 You have a Awesome PFP to.😮

@MakerVerse Год назад

Why my passthrough in open brush doesn't work? It is all black.

@pou5938 Год назад

How does the recline mode works? Does it allow me to play VR while laying down in bed?

@user-sz4sz4jm3q Год назад

5GHz is unstable cause I have my router downstairs ,and my pc upstairs Does wireless only work with 5GHz and doesn’t work with 2.4GHz?

@CrimsonCascade3101 Год назад

6:40 this isn't even his voice anymore. It's just a text speech of his voice

@TheMysticle Год назад

I was waiting for people to notice 😂 I changed it to AI for a few seconds to see if anyone would.

@CrimsonCascade3101 Год назад

@@TheMysticle I noticed it because I'm high as shit rn

@ReeksofChees3 Год назад

@@TheMysticle please don't have the TTS be a permanent thing. while it's easier for convenience and saves time, it's also gives me a sense of laziness and "quantity over quality," as well as sounding less genuine. Less human. it is a good experiment to see if people will notice.

@Breakdown5297 Год назад

looking at the pico 4 vs Quest 2, it almost feels like Linux vs Windows. One has better performance, and is more 'open' in that you can install whatever you want, as long as it's an APK. One is more locked-down, but better supported, with more features, and is kinda dumbed-down for the general market.

@mackychloe Год назад

So if i can get Bigscreen as an APK there's no reason why it won't run??

@Breakdown5297 Год назад

@@mackychloe I mean, it might not work if it relies on oculus services (like installing google play on an amazon fire) but the app itself should *run*

@mackychloe Год назад

@@Breakdown5297 I see. I guess time will tell. Thanks.

@TroyParry74 Год назад

Quest 2, you can install side quest. You can also play Steam VR games on it.

@rns101 Год назад

Do you have the ability to test elite dangerous on the Pico 4 ?

@TheSateef Год назад

i wish this was available when i got my quest 2, it looks great and i only play PCVR. my only concern was you didn't like the controllers so much. UPDATE, i sold my quest 2 and bought this and its awesome. I only run PCVR and it looks way better than quest. its not super comfortable facial interface but i think after market upgrades will come to fix that. controllers are just as good as quest IMHO.

@pijen Год назад

did you miss your quest 2?

@AP83 Год назад

You spelled review wrong

@mightygryffon8319 Год назад

reviee

@belindakennedy5828 Год назад

And 🤷

@bap8195 Год назад

Omg call the police😱😒

@AP83 Год назад

Nothing wrong with that. Just thought it might be helpful to point out.

@AP83 Год назад

@@bap8195 Yes, I just called LAPD. They said “this number is for emergencies only”.

@KevinMick Год назад

Did the Pico 4 come with wifi built in? I heard that it was aa add-on, is that true?

@iceshoqer Год назад

If I have a Quest 2 and only use PC VR, but I’m waiting for the Quest 3… I shouldn’t get the Pico 4 yet right?

@mackychloe Год назад

wait for the Q3. the Q2 still has plenty of life in it.

@ogwink8407 Год назад

Just wondering but isn't it disturbing when quest 2 has better tracking than this device? I just got the Pico 4 and the hand tracking is slightly better on the quest 2 tbh