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@@nexyo118 yeah but it kinda ruined the game too because in the name of balancing they made it pointless to even choose a class essentially. However when one class is OP asf that’s pretty annoying too or to have 1 class that always beats u when you try to PvP them. Wotlk is much more balanced atleast u have a chance.
@@gg025 preg comps zug zug unless they're played at the very top level of skill, where the preg plays much closer to how holy plays. its kinda wild how different r1 pregs plays to us normal plebs
@@Tucnacicek well for example I play sub Rogue with good gear (ulduar HM weapons, 40% ARP and with trinket proc 95% ARP) and I can kill a pvp geared mage in, no joke, 2 ambushes and 1 eviscerate.. warlocks and ele shamans kill people in 2 globals, if a warrior connects to your healer he will kill it in 10 seconds if your healer is a shaman or priest and there's so many more examples of how unbalanced wotlk pvp is
i think the fact that resto druid and resto shaman are irrelevent atm really brings down variability at the higher mmr's. hopefull in s2 something changes so you dont this pala and x-class every game. the burnout is totally understandable.
Kinda frustrating how they only released x patch with low effort. People had plenty of time to grind up OP classes,read paladin, because solved meta. Not even class rebalancing
@@sdruba90 oh ur right, the nova didn't break it. Regardless, there are other points with blind break like in third game. Thats the kind of thing where it's nice to be in voice to communicate it
Funny thing how things change from one another. For me what makes arena extremely boring is fights going longer than 3-4 minutes, for example i hate 2v2 arena with healers, healers shouldn't be allowed in this shit, when i'm full BiS on my character and an 2v2 arena pops up with a healer i immediatly quit since i don't care about ratings and points... Nowadays healers in 2v2 are so meta (back in the time it was quite rare to see a healer in 2v2) that i'm actually prefering going full BG for PvP.
I really thought Wotlk was gonna be better based on the community hype... I started playing in Cataclysm so I wanted to play Wotlk as people said it was the best expansion ever... I leveled up my char to 80, did some dungeoning and Raiding, a few BGs and arenas... but sadly I got bored very quickly, I decided to give DF a chance as I hated Shadowlands and man I'm loving it... I'm having infinitely more fun in Dragonflight than I did in Wotlk.
@@user-zg5ew2bm7l I played in WotlK. I rememeber when 50% if the entire 2v2 bracket was made up by rogues and priests. It was so much mage/rogue, rogue/priest and mage/priest. Mages and rogues have been OP in this game since 2004. How many bad season for rogues can you remember? You need to get a grip if you don't realize this, lmao.
@@hansbystrom9983 Ah now it all makes sense, you're basing your statement on your exp from the original wotlk. That's fair, but this video is on classic wotlk and if you actually play it, you'll see the meta is wildly different compared to back in the day, since people are now much better at the game and strats have evolved. I've played every season so far and almost reached glad range, the ques are 50% warpal , 40% is either disc/feral, rogue/disc (or sp) and dk/pala. The remaining 10% is different comps. Now for RM specifically, there's max 1 or 2 RMs getting glad (not even r1) every season, and I face one about once in 150 games. Both rogues and mages have much better comps to play instead currently, as mages mostly play with sp (disc is kinda trash as mage lacks damage) ironforge.pro/pvp/leaderboards/EU/2 This is a live ladder for wotlk classic, feel free to check it out if you think I'm talking nonsense
Playing 2s comps that are dps+offhealer (Melee /w Caster), and playing MCH 3s comps: is fun. Playing anything else is boring (double dps 2s without an offhealer, 2s with an healer, melee cleaves, caster cleaves)
@@iN8k there's no irony in wanted an individual to do something and then they do it. You can't simply apply the back half of the definition and attempt to say it fits the definition.
The fact that you’re still harassiNg me, even though I’m correct, & you’re iNcorrectly attemptiNg to correct me, is proviNg your desper8ion to protect your ego@@MrXennon1
It says online that Hpal and Armswar are the best, but i think its farily mid at best. Tbh your comp rogue mage should beat it everytime, only chance they have against you is gross misplays from your team.
it's one of the top comps when S8 comes out, but still I tihnk casters and rogue + spriest are gigabroken too. It's a fun expansion for me tbh, everything's cool except for shammy and resto healers in 2s.
You might be playing against some of the smartest players, I mean going out and having a rogue be able to stun you when he wants would be kinda dumb right?
Indeed playing Forever-CC-Cheese comp must be boring... try playing something where you have something else to do besides doing the same 4 CC in a row... yes, this is hard, because in case you fuck it up you can pray that the enemy fucks up too or else you are done... This is basically robot-check comp... if you can repeat the same thing over and over again you win... don't be surprised that it gets boring...
защото има много класи дето могат да го супукат от бой вече :Д и не му е толкова лесно, уарлоци, паладини и дкта в арените ще са му тварежни особено като играе с мейдж, вместо да си вземе някакъв съпорт дпс, шадоупирест, друид да речем
the team that beat you 2 times that you mentioned if you played with a shadowpriest by your side it was going to be different :) mage can't cant dispel the divine shield of the pala so priest is better plus the disarm
You also run into the class design problems. Most likely if it isn’t on the top of the ladder. It’s because of balancing. There are plenty of people that play at rank 1 level. Each class has people of that skill level but the meta won’t let them compete in that meta
As someone whos peak pvp was wotlk-wod (rogue/hunter mains) I can say, perfect counter for mage rogue is hunter & enhance or another rogue. Atleast, works better than others 😂
I would play pvp even in my 180ms but if there wouldnt exists addons and macros. Make things sooo much easier for some races and for the people playing at good ms that is literally impossible to raise above 1000
5:10 And what's funny about that is if you were relying on RU-vid guides you would of thought it was gonna be tsg teams. Good thing I didn't care and still rolled my fav class a druid anyways. I do not regret it one bit.
+ warriors are at the bottom of pve dps charts atm cos of low crit and armour pen just imagine what that’s going to be like in pvp when they’re pumping in pve lol
