This is Why ESRB Ratings are actually Meaningless 

Is it because you technically showed the hot coffee mod In the original video

@rocketSloth Honestly I think that we need to go away from an age based rating system and more towards a descriptive system. Everyone is different at any age depending on maturity level. When I was like 10 I would play shooter games and war outside with my friends no problem never had the problem of understanding the seriousness of death. But then there are adults nowadays when I hear them talk about their shooter games I think they still shouldn’t be allowed. I think descriptive would be good. For example a parent might be fine with violence, blood, gore and nudity but puts a hard line on gambling. So if the parent could just look on the back and identify what is in the game it would be much better

No wonder I'm having Deja Vu

And thank *you* for reminding me how bad _WWF WAR ZONE_ is lmao Also the EDGE article you quoted or referenced or whatever? Yeah...the guy’s last name is Yee, and they were saying that he berated (as in yelled at them, basically) the ESRB over TES IV having its rating revised. Thanks for the laugh though.

I did also wonder if I have already watched this, lol

if it were my kids im turning there console content standards setting to ( pg ) rating that will fix that shert up faster than a wipper snapper next minute mum can u take setting off well im out with the boys next min babe can i have the code for the xbox ( pg ) i want to play cod my response is beatch u dnt play video games and the kids have asked u to lie for them put that lil shert on hun 1min later yes dad hey lil shert im come home and blacken that azz boy no cod no halo got it play teletubbies the game great education ( hangs up ) 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👀🤣

it's a must

LMAO

@@modernmarksmnhell no, I’m playing it the volume up

My parents wouldn't let me get it till I was 17, not much they could do when I was at a friends house though. I also let my cousins play it when they were ~10, but they weren't allowed to get guns, only drive around.

which is how we got a pokemon game with the same age rating as persona 3 edit: please stop liking this it keeps flooding my notifications

Fake money doesn't drive the industry now does it.

​Actually, Peak Entertainment Casinos has been rated Adults Only because of real gambling. And it's the only AO-rated game without violent or sexual content.

😂😂😂

E10 is still kinda useless since its a 3 year range until Teenage, i feel a 7+ rating would be more useful since it could be identical to this situation while offering more use

@@KurapikaStan yeah but it's the "and 99 cents" of videogame ratings. Is there much of a difference between a high end E10 and low end Teen (such as Shadow the Hedgehog and Smash Bros)? No, but for some parents they have the "I wouldn't buy it for $20, but it's only $10, plus $9, and 99 cents" phenomenon of "I wouldn't buy my 8 year old a game that's for teenagers, but since this game is for everyone like Mario but for 10 and up it's ok."

​@@KurapikaStan That would be worse since it would just be 1 year over E

@@AkameGaKillfan777 i get it, but i was kinda basing it off of TV ratings and how theirs a clear difference between Micky Mouse and Power Rangers but its not big enough to warrant a Teen rating so 7+ ratings are used often And also the E rating being technically 6+ as stated by the ESRB is kinda dumb since i feel their are a lot of kids and parents who see games in the E rating as for them/their children

@@KurapikaStan It's no dumber than PEGI which has a two year gap of 16 - 18.

The government didn't make the ESRB, they didn't make any of the ratings organizations.

Derp

The ESRB is not run by the government.

@@frux9392 okay I guess?

Just tells you the parent doesn't care they just want them out of the way

I just think they’re easily lobbied and spineless

The mods that got the rating changed only enabled stuff that was already in the original game.

@@FatherTime89 Yet it was still a mod that shouldn't be accsessible without specifically downloading it. I think the ESRB just doesn't quite understand how modding works.

@@FatherTime89 but it was hidden away with no way to access it without mods ALOT of kids games have pretty harsh language in their code, but I don't think anyone would think spongebob battle for bikini bottom should be M-rated

​​@@FatherTime89we gonna raise skyrim's rating over 'killable children'? The base game even put loot tables in for them.

And then they'll bitch and moan that it's exposing their child to violence

@@MASTEROFEVIL Tbh it's just some parents acting like karens who are sadly a pretty vocal minority, I really hope they don't end up becoming the vocal majority, especially how lately the internet and gaming and censorship is going to shits lately... just look at skullgirls for example it got censored so much YEARS later despite being completely fine, I hate censorship, i hate denuvo, I FUCKING HATE THE WORLD, PEOPLE SHOULD BURN AND DIE.

​@@MASTEROFEVILor they don't care

When I worked at Gamestop, the only thing parents cared about was whether it had gay shit or not. They didn't care about violence or even naked women. The only shit they didn't want their kids seeing was gay shit.

@@MASTEROFEVIL No i don't thinks so. I started to believe this whole rating stuff is only to generate some jobs to people that otherwise wouldn't have a job. Bad language and drug usage in a video game is nothing compared to bad language and drug usage in real life let say in a school nowadays. In some schools it's easier to get some weed then a sandwich in the bufe yet a lot of people blame GTA because of it, even tho it's not even remotely close. First we should need to keep public places in order. Like schools, pubs, parks etc. For example the first "fck you" i heard was in kindergarden... not in a video game really.

The gaming industry would flip their shit

@@MASTEROFEVIL i dont see any problem with that

@@blikthepro972 Me neither

@ZaHandle no, that would make the homeless people famous and ruin their already ruined lives further

The fact that the esrb deadass went "nah lootboxes are totally fine" is baffling. How incompetent can you get?

My mom is the strict one, I’m 11, almost 12, I am extremely mature, I read books and play games like black hawk down, red platoon, halo, etc, the other day I asked her if I could play titanfall 2, she said no because “I don’t know about people shooting people” even though I am clearly mature enough to play it

@@RandomPersoneditzThat’s weird that she won’t let you play it, especially because Halo also has people shooting people.

@@legometaworld2728 exactly

But see that's what I still don't get. Violence is a-okay but sexual content is not? I mean most people have seen a naked body, no?

​@@legometaworld2728 Aliens, not people

And then you just called your friend and said "Hey Dad, can you tell GameStop I can buy this?"

@@Peelster1 no, i actually did call my dad and he didn't care whatsoever and allowed it 😂

Dont give esrb ideas

you could have sue them nowadays for discrimination XD... like they are selling sigarettes or whiskey

​@@NobileFanfiltrthey actually still want a parents permission if you're under 17

"German Beyblades" LOL

Thank you so much I was like "what the heck is he saying"

It seems any discussion about censorship made for RU-vid is bound to strike something of that nature.

Ww2 history:wait im suppose to do WHAT

@@TheChestnut21dude should learn how to pronounce the term “hakenkreuz”; it means “hooked cross” in German, and it’s the official term the language uses for that symbol.

I myself would call it FMV FNAF, but yeah I can't unsee it either

More like fnaf is a 2014 Night trap. I was back in 8th grade when fnaf first came out. Those were my exact thoughts "its night trap, but at a chuckee cheese"

lol ya, in the Game Grumps playthrough of FNAF, Dan has the game explained to him, and once he gets it he’s like “oh so it’s Night Trap?” i thought that was hilarious, especially given how at the time fnaf came out, it was lauded as being so unique. i mean it still was, compared to the games coming out at the time, but it’s funny that night trap did it 20 years prior lol

We have warnings for these in my country (though I haven't seen it in a while, maybe was phased out, or it's just that I don't get physical copies anymore). It seems so obvious and far clearer, it seems like common sense to do this everywhere

yes.

Pegi works like that There is number on front but also those tags but on back at least in poland

THIS. Also, they should put gameplay difficulty and reading level labels on them too, as these are also factors that parents should consider (especially for younger kids), that aren't currently considered in ESRB ratings.

I think that's why ESRB didn't really use hard age ratings as the primary marketing. Yeah, we generally recognize Teen as "13+" but it's just marketed as "Teen" and it's up to the parent or purchaser to interpret the actually appropriateness of the content for the intended audience. I think in the video it was on the back of a PEGI case, but the language-agnostic iconography used to further describe the rating I think are a lot more useful information than the overall ratings score. And in my mind, a perfect rating system would take a couple of categories, e.g. Violence, Language and Interpersonal Relations, and rate each of those on some scale. Violence for instance could have a scale like 0 - no violence at all 1 - mild cartoon violence 2 - cartoon violence 3 - semi-realistic violence (no blood) 4 - semi-realistic violence (non-realistic blood e.g. obscured, not red, or alien blood) 5 - realistic violence (with blood) 6 - realistic violence (blood and mild gore) 7 - extreme gore and violence The scale could change, those were just some categories I could think of off the top of my head. Then you would have easy indicators right on the box why a game is rated what it is. I know that different parents have different tolerances for different categories of "explicit content" Some might say most violence is okay, but don't want to hear the game swear and don't want any scantily dressed characters, so that parent's tolerance for the Violence category would be relatively high, while tolerance for the Language and Nudity categories would be quite low. Under the current system, at least in the ERSB, these "content descriptors" are very vague, and it seems like some games get rated higher than others despite having the same set of content descriptors. It's often not really a question between the two after you play both games, but sitting on a store shelf or on an online storefront there's not really much of identifiable difference past the final rating score. @@Laz3rCat95 yes, that's a good point. Especially for parents of younger children, graphic content is not the only factor when selecting a game for a child, a mild mannered but very difficult game may not be appropriate for a younger gamer that frankly isn't very good at playing games yet, not because the game has inappropriate content, but because at this time they'll probably not have fun playing. Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2 for GameCube was like that for me. It was Star Wars, I was huge into Star Wars as a kid. But it wasn't until years later that I could go back to RS2 and actually understand the game and be able to play it at all, and it sat on my shelf for a very long time as just a "cool Star Wars game that's too hard to play."

Yeah, the censoring of M rated games will never not be stupid for me, what's even the point of the ESRB if their contributions are ignored?

my parents look up the information, this lead to me not being able to play Twilight princes for a while but really it just made it more exiting to play so I didn't mind it much.

I never was allowed to get a game unless my parents gave me the go ahead. They’d watch play through a, read reviews etc. I wasn’t allowed to get a game such as RDR 2 until I was 18

@@MrFantom_ yeah, honestly to me the more restrictive a parent is, the more loving they are as they try to protect their children. And yes I know there are exceptions.

@@SquarePancakes Yeah, I was still allowed to play some M rated games. It just depended on the content. I played old call of duties on the PlayStation 2 etc. lol

I really do think this is the single biggest issue in the whole thing. Most people older than millennials(and even a lot of millennials tbf) don't really "get" what games are, and instead of bothering to do their job as a parent, they'd rather just look for someone else to give them a very simple easy to digest answer(which often means a wrong answer). It doesn't help that I honestly wonder if anyone who works at the ESRB/PEGI/etc are actually like... you know, gamers? people who enjoy and play video games in their spare time? It kinda just feels like it's a bunch of older businessmen who only kinda understand what a videogame is,

@@jamesbailey6257ratings are bs

kids by no means should never ever be playing cod or halo or anything to do with adult themed scenarios thats at a age were kids are still trying to understand the world around them cod n halo get a ( MA ) by my rating system splatoon would be suitable for kids that gets a ( G ) rating from me

@@NeoMoonSevin lmfao

@@NeoMoonSevin well uh, i have bad news for you for half of everyones childhoods

​@@NeoMoonSevinsarcasm is a dying art

​@@NeoMoonSevin i have VERY bad news for you lil bro...

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That's hilarious

Agreed 💯

​@@NFSBeast2365Why am I finding you everywhere?

Exactly I’ve been playing MK and GTA since I was 7 and Ive never tried to do a fatality on someone spine or rob a bank. I think sometimes parents just overreact when they see their child play something like gta or MK

Agreed. Sure, I read Warrior cats, but I won't assassinate the president or try to kill someone with dogs!

I hate how media such as video games and television shows are used as a scapegoat for when someone is doing a shitty job as a parent

There DS remake old a old game Called Devilish that got T rating fot that reason and the same kind of scene and its in first few seconds of gameplay though its only blood in entire game yet rest of world game got a 3+ all Ages rating.

When they released the rating they said it was because of the "circumstances of some of the cases". I think they were refering to how *MINOR SPOILERS* a 12 year old kid is involved in one of the cases and there's a scene where they're covered in blood. I think that's what raised the rating.

Not only that, but the courtroom bombing might’ve played a role in the m rating because fear of terrorist attacks, especially bombers, was still high in America

@@stardustsdd and if I remember correctly, the way the blood gets on her is pretty dang gruesome. I don't think it's entirely justified as an M rated game, but it makes a lot more sense than some other ratings I've seen.

Ah there it is, was looking for it, was wondering why he did not mention it at all.

Any nudity should be 18+, my opinion.

@@detective2221 The legal age of consent here is 16, so that just seems silly to me.

​@@detective2221 rq what's your opinion on art galleries

I had copies of the earlier Assassin's Creed games that had a BBFC 15 rating on the box. Good thing, too, since my parents wouldn't have let me play them if they were 18 rated.

@@stevenbobbybills Yes! I was thinking of the original AC I had the same thing lol in Gamestation they had a PEGI version and a BBFC one on the same shelf

I mean, it's up to the parents. If they don't care, that's also fine. My parents checked what games I played, but they never stopped me from playing games just because of the rating. They didn't let me play games that gave me nightmares, but I got nightmares from stupidest stuff, not from what you'd expect. I was playing GTA:VC when I was 4 years old no problem, didn't have any issues with that whatsoever. But some cheap quest game for teenage girls scared me for some reason, lol. Kids are weird.

Same, I wish people would stop hating on parents for not understanding things like this

Nah I'm sorry but it's a parents job to know what they're kid is doing and what they're consuming. Parents need to take responsibility and learn about their kids entertainment

​​@@ForOne814i had a nightmare after a game that was "teaching" me english (english is my second language). I have no idea how old i was. Dog shit game tho. How was i supposed to know any of those words when i just started going to school? (this is just my guess when it happened) I really hope that my mother believed that i had a nightmare because i deleted that game that morning/day. Character was probably some witch.

thinking about that time 15 year old me walked out of the gamestop with my mom while holding the mass effect trilogy I was so glad she didn’t see the rating on the box

I don't see any problem with people playing games out of there range, the video games cause violence debate is debunked, and most games with high age ratings simply use it to make better stories or more realistic and or stylized combat. My parents don't care what games I play, and I consider them the farthest thing from bad parents. Playing mature games has even helped me grow as a person, and think about more complex things. If I were to only watch and play things made for me I would probably be half the person I am now.

I think it's a reach to call the ESRB corrupt for their ratings. If you're talking about the Chinese OGEC, there's a lot more corrupt parts of the chinese government than their VG ratings board lol.

I never look up ratings when buying games for myself or for my kids. They're useless. Instead I just research whats in the game or I know the devs and their approach to making games so I know exactly what to expect. It's nice to have extra information, and I'm always on board with that. Like having just a content descriptor with no rating. Perfect. Just tell me what's in it, nothing more. I'll figure it out myself after that. But a "rating"? Yeah no thanks. No one gets to decide when my kid is ready to handle a topic. I'll decide that. Some topics they're overly infantilizing on, others they're far too provocative and aggressive with exposure. And beside each kid is different and they process things at different rates. Sometimes a topic becomes too heavy for them when it wasn't before, because now they understand something new about the world, and so you can regulate that thing in their life until they've developed the capacity for handling it again. (People forget that rubber banding is a thing that happens in psychological development as well which...how the heck does the ESRB account for that? like...they can't). Anyway, it's my job, not theirs. The end.

@@IHitTheWater I have no idea how old you are, but I'm gonna guess if you're this articulate, you're probably fine with almost everything out there.

@@vulpinemachine Agreed. A truly responsible parent would educate themselves on the product beforehand. Of course kids can always sneak and get it but that's not on the parent now. It's good to see other people with similar mindsets on this.

They needed a distinction between "allowed to purchase and play with the permission of a parent or legal guardian" and "not allowed to purchase and play at all", and it would seem silly (or, at least, sillier) to have two rating corresponding to the exact same age. It's the same reason the MPA has both R (17+ unless with parent or adult guardian) and NC-17 (18+ exclusively).

they should make M 16+ instead bc the content really isn't that bad

the Adults only rating basically only exists so that ESRB can say to people "there's p*rn or extreme gore in this game". It's literally just it, and the system makes no f****** sense! GTA San Andreas literally went from +17 to +18 just due to hot coffee (which wasn't even available normally, you had to mod the damn thing for it to work). Torture, Murder, Strong Language, Racial Slurs, Drug use, all where in the game and it was only rated 17+, the moment someone found out that CJ could have s*x while being fully clothed they decide to change the rating

Essentially, 18+ was, for all intensive purposes, there to say "I only exist because the government can't ban me."

@pedrolantyer The "hot coffee" incident is seriously unbelievable to me. How did they raise such a fuss about a scene where two FULLY CLOTHED PEOPLE dry hump each other, that WASN'T EVEN ACCESSIBLE IN THE GAME TO BEGIN WITH and needed the game to be modified to be seen? If these people see a kid scribbling crude drawings on a book he bought do they demand that book be banned as well?

Though some violent games like Hatred and a rare copy of Manhunt 2 are AO

It's funny especially since most teens by 17 have seen or experienced way more sexual things irl or online

The best way reason I think one act is wrong or morally black and white, while the other thing is not as clear-cut or very morally grey

What is the natural act?

@@thebignachoim sacred what yall saying i swear ima loose my crap if yall are trying to normalize that thing

Though I would modify your system just a little bit, I do think a number system rather than a letter or age system could be better. Instead of 7 being unrated I think the symbol of RP or UR would be fine since 7 could imply that this game is some fucked up shit when in actuality it's a Mario game that just hasn't received a number yet. You make it a 0 then a similar problem happens in reverse.

I think it makes sense to keep the old esrb rating system up to e 10 or so, and then once you hit Teen, just stick the tags they already have on the rating label as plain old content warnings. Age of Calamity is teen because you kill a lot of bokoblins in a really large scale, while BotW and ToTK are e10+ because it's smaller scale, even though BotW's got more content warnings on the label. Just toss a T+ rating or something on it with the content labels and it sends the message: "If you don't want your kid playing a gory game, don't play this. If you're ok with them playing a more sexual game, then play this." There are also filtering systems for PCs and whole networks that can filter by content tags, and this would allow for more integration with that while preventing the dumb outrage going on in some states like Utah and Texas as well as the UK and other countries where they want to require picture ID to access certain content, and it would help the people of those states realize there are better solutions already widely available.

"low PG-13" you mean PG??

​@@snozer6966 use a question mark for unrated instead of number.

5 and 6 are the real standouts here. Those are some warnings applicable even to adults.

Not

I had that but with a film, Christmas 2001 I got Bridget Jones Diary on DVD (I feel so old typing that) but my mum said I was allowed it as I was almost 15 (it’s rated 15 which means no-under 15, I had seen it in the cinema but she didn’t know that) cos my birthday is 10 days after Christmas. Glad she didn’t know I’d watched The Exorcist when I was 12, though the rating of that film here is a whole other can of worms.

Halo games should have been rerated as Teen, but I think Microsoft paid the ESRB to make it M rated so their console would look hardcore.

@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 honestly would not surprise me

@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 I played the Master Chief Collection on my Series X and I find nothing M about it. Guess they want to make Xbox more adult than Sony's PS2 and even more man than the "childish" Nintendo GameCube. You just hit the nail in the head!

I think maybe because of the body horror of the flood, all games with the flood in them are rated M

@@Daynger_Fox - Curiously, ODST and Reach are M, but have no Flood; and Halo Wars has Flood but it's T.

Australia is whacky with game ratings. Didn't your government ban Mortal Kombat? Like come on, Australia of all the places

God of War Ascension was the first R18 game

The MCC holds an MA15+ rating because Reach is Included.

@@Wakapat_YT Halo C.E and 2 are MA15+ as well

@@SmileyAI69 Cheers, I always wondered what game was the first

To be completely fair. They do have a notice on the box that states that there is in-game purchases with random mechanics. They're not unwilling to hide them, but the fact that they completely backtrack on one of the core motivations to label a game as Ao because daddy EA wants to start gambling addictions as young as possible is kind of ridiculous. I think it's kind of ridiculous that the most offensive, actually harmful, and greediest mechanics introduced in gaming could have all been avoided by making real-money loot boxes an instant Ao. And for those who don't know, it was mentioned briefly in the video itself, but essentially every retailer in the US has gone in together on a ban of the sale of Ao rated games, so the only places you'd be able to find a _properly_ rated FIFA game is in the shady adult video store somehow still in business.

You seriously think that just because a kid wants to kill people in a game they aren't being raised well? Come on, we proved years ago that just because a kid wants violence in a game doesn't mean they are a psychopath with no sense in real life.

​@@combineshowcases I never said anything about kids being psychopaths because they weren't raised well, now you're just putting words in my mouth. It’s all about instilling proper values/morals in your children and teaching what’s reality and what’s fantasy at the end of the day. Blaming any form of media for individual actions is just ridiculous.

Retail man, I get it

Am sure that Kid must have played it somehow

@@mongstyt9946 every kid has a friend who has them

i kinda feel bad for the kid thats gotta be too much for just 1 kid to handle

I mean, I'd do the same if some asshole tried to stop me from playing games I like. Thank God my parents were always adequate and bought be good games even when I was a kid. Original MW2 and CS:S made my childhood what it was, among other games.

And the very same game in it's uncensored form was given 16+ by PEGI and sold everywhere in Europe (strict Germany included).

I think it's because they are more interactive

​@@SwiftSwelterthat's their actual reason, yeah

Australia was special, because they didn't hand out their 18+ rating for games. So the strictest rating for games was 15+. As they deemed "violent games" not suitable for a 15+ rating, they were basically banned. They changed it in 2013 to allow the R 18+ rating which allows most stuff except most sexual stuff.

The game levels are documented for the PS3. It's in every single game manual, describing the level of intensity and adult content a game has, although it's still somewhat vague.

@awii.neocities Interesting but I haven’t been able to find these in the manuals, where are they usually?

@@legometaworld2728 Second page if I remember correctly.

I know this isn't your point but it's so crazy how far out of their way people go to just avoid typing "they" lol, like no one says "he/she" or"him/her" irl, they just say "they". I I guess it's the physical act of typing it/seeing it written that makes people go "oh no, that's a gay word, I can't use that!" but it really is silly.

​@@jamesbailey6257actually most formal documents and parental advisories actively avoid using they, as he/she sounds much more appropiate for that style of writing. I do agree that avoiding they is silly though.

@@infinitespace2520 No they don’t. They has been the correct way of referring to an unidentified gender since the 14th century, any English teacher will tell you they is the correct way of writing it as “he/she” is clunky and strange. I’m sure you can find some very outdated formal writing places that prefer that but formal writing, mainly for science, is not normal prose. Just write they.

@@infinitespace2520 also, most conventions are actively working on changing the holdouts that have this stance, since, again, it’d incorrect. They has been the correct way of stating a singular unknown gender for centuries now.

@@jamesbailey6257 Didn't have to write a paragraph bud, I said I agreed with you that it is silly, and you're getting really close to making me disagree out of spite. Plus your comments are completely unrelated to the OP.

I'd say yes to loot boxes purchased by micro transactions (vs dlc)

Agreed. I was pretty confused back in the OG Xbox days when I seen that Oddworld Strangers Wrath had a lower ESRB rating than Halo 2.

They said it was because blood did not disapear or stayed on walls was the reason for a M in Europe most the series rated 16+ though.

My thoughts exactly.

Yep probably some copyright issue in the first video

Yeah it’s a repost

@invokedbyred That sounds *almost* like Promise's first verse or something. 🇦🇺🎸🎹

Halo 4's M rating was probably because of that cutscene where the scientists disintegrate

@@s0n4r89 oh yeah, good point.

In Australia, Halo 1, 2 and Reach where MA15 (Basically M for you), while 3 and 4 actually got M (Basically T for you). No clue why but think it might be due to more blood splatters from humans in 1 and 2 which isn't as present in 3/4, and the assassinations in Reach at times being brutal with audio that someone probably mistook for bones crushing

Germany forced the developers to turn the pedestrians into animals

Ong lmao, I've played so much doom, GTA, and basically every call of duty game

Game ratings Shmame ratings

I just bought Doom Eternal for my 12 year old brother😅

@@Superluminal_30000 good man

Ill list for yall gta 3 gta vice city gta san andreas gta V (finished the game) doom call of duty (one) call of duty united offensive call of duty modern warfare 2 call of duty black ops 2 watch dogs south park the stick of truth south park the fractured but whole and many more

All of them in Europe was rated Pegi12 but the first one rated by Pegi was 7+ then rest was 12+ same with Kingdom Hearts series.

Smash Bros ratings make no sense. The only ways Melee and Brawl are more violent than 64 are because of better hardware and graphics, and still not by that much. But for some reason Smash 4 and Ultimate are E10 rated even though they have the same level of violence and certain "suggestive" themes? You've got to be kidding me.

The E10 rating literally did not exist when Melee released.

depends what u mean your question can lead down many roads be specific

Thats why age only makes no sense. Content descriptors are better

We dont care

One year of age for millions in earning potential just sounds so ridiculous when you lay it out on paper.

Yep, that's what pisses me off so much about ratings systems. Why should artists being censored and stifled, and adults should be forced to consume media differently, because some random couple don't want to parent the child they had. It isn't fair, and don't come up with the "PROTECTING THE KIDS!!" bullshit like that's something you actually care about now. I'm sorry but these systems just shouldn't exist, do your job as a parent and read about something before you buy it for your kid, if you don't think it's good for them don't buy it. Crazy how simple that is

@@jamesbailey6257the ratings should exist, (content descriptors is a nice start) but they shouldn’t change as if kids are the most important thing to worry about for games more suited to adult audiences

i'm not sure dual destinies being rated m was the self harm thing because one of the cases in spirit of justice also involves self harm and that still got rated t

Which ones?

Mw2 gears 2 gears 3 mw4 halo 3 halo 2

Idk if it was just my local GameStop, but they had a little screen at the counter next to the ds games where you could look up information like what games were in-stock, a game's rating, and sometimes there'd be a sort of demo video about the game. Although, stuff like that was totally discontinued because that's all stuff you could just look up now

Republic Commando is pretty dope though

its weird halo a game with star wars level violence got an m rating while republic commando a literal star wars game with violence got a t

@@NOTABOT2KChannI don’t think it’s just your local GameStop. I’ve heard of those before and they used to be very common.

Technically she shouldnt have let you get it though

It seems like the people who are making the rule about video games. Don’t have the mental capacity to understand the difference between reality and not.

They already do that. The ratings help easy categorization. Same with movie ratings.

What about USK/FSK 18?

Either way the ACB sucks ass. For some reason Australia bans a shit ton of games no matter what, and any game with drugs in it immediately gets an R18. Also I feel like most R18 ratings here are because the games they rated are known for gore, or because it was just introduced and they felt way more trigger happy with the R18 ratings then they do now.

@@awii.neocities I'd rather the ACB be there and function as it does rather than media classification being a confusing free for all like it is in America. That being said, we really need to reform classification standards and save RC for actually illegal material.

Bro we know u lying

​@@PoisonIvory088exactly nobody remembers playing a video game at 3 yrs old especially if it's 25+ years ago😂

3 years old playing Wolfenstein 3D and remembering it, wild 😂

@@ibeast2959 lemme guess, they also remember working out as a 3 year old

@PoisonIvory088 LOL that would be awesome. Unfortunately my other memories from 3 are way more dull than that, like trying to pour milk on my cereal for the first time and over filling it, or losing my green plastic helicopter toy underneath the oven and not being able to reach it. All of them are just a few random seconds of life that have stayed with me for whatever reason, thankfully they're positive memories

why is it that when it comes to video games, governments turn into nanny states?

Yee has a yee-yee-ass haircut :p

You know, the guy who campaigned against video game violence, who turned out to be an _arms trafficker_

Lmao how did he manage to read it that way?

I agree

Americans can't read.