This is Why Lobotomy is the Worst Surgery in History 

So in short, the same as most antipsychotics but rather than* using biochemical stimulation to emulate unnatural brain activity, physical damage was used instead.

True man . It's true even todate capitalists dont want emotional humans they want vegetables

@@funjoyknowledge3304 there is nothing about capitalisme, just about not making people suffer uselessly. A psycho will hurt himself if not other people, is he is sleeping with medication its better for everyone, until we find a real way to heal them.

@@funjoyknowledge3304 so do communists.

Basically similar to taking a baseball bat to someone's head until they aren't moving anymore. Kinda not medical in the least lmao

Agreed. I mean look at the Kennedy's, they did that to one of their own.

@@reidecember5372 A person could see what happened to them as karma - at least karma for Joe Kennedy anyways, that prick was evil incarnate, at least the British royal family just hid their embarrassments from sight like poor Prince John rather than labotomising them.

It was pretty bad, someone in your family could just not like you, or get mad at you for anything and they could have you locked up in a mental institution (mainly father, mother, husband, or even a brother) No one tested you to make sure you actually needed any treatment at all, never mind being institutionalized for the rest of your life. A husband could just be tired of his wife and have her put away with a few lies no one bothered to verify.

whats more disgusting is how the intellectual arrogance of the psychologists and doctors enabled this kind of monstrosity... but then they were also many of the same people who created the ideas that would go on to inspire the nazi final solution...

@@andrewhinson4323 The people who pushed for lobotomies weren't actually experts in the field. They were showmens. They were NOT intellectuals. Not like what you're complaining about.

It was not the parents decision, it was solely the father's. Joseph Kennedy did it behind his wife's back, the poor woman found out what happened to her daughter when it was to late. :(

@@zwischenburkaundbikini2418Oh please, while I agree that most end up being completely changed, it's also mostly truth that most of the lobotomies ended with the women never recalling their past lives. So, it's most likely that Rose Kennedy didn't remember any of her siblings or her father. There's a lot of weird happenings in that family and honestly, in some ways, maybe that's the Kennedy curse start when he chose to sacrifice her for the family's sake. Hmm. Never thought about it like that before. While they were all chasing politics, she was locked up and forgotten about in that family. And maybe it's true that she never truly even remembered her family.

Ohh man!! I really used to admire the Kennedy family. My Mom told me about how she cried a lot after hearing of the death of former President J.F.K. via her transistor radio. Gee, I wonder if she has any idea what any male members of the Kennedy family were truly like, behind their closed doors...?

@@zwischenburkaundbikini2418thats actually been proven to not be true, she signed the paperwork and was there when it happened

True! JFK Had a doctor fallow him every where he went giving him hourly Injections of Cortisol. JFK also took high doses of ADDERALL Because he needed stabilized Moods. He was an ADDISON'S DISEASE Patient . JFK Allmost Got America Nuked by the Russion brocade off the coast of Florida.

what

@@BruhLordRBLXBruh.

@@BruhLordRBLX useless reaction to a heavy personal story

that last line is so true.

Utterly heartbreaking

Bro me too that shit looks scary and they didn’t deserve that man I mean Howard lost his mother it could make you sad and get angry sometimes he just needed people or friends and Rosemary aw man 😢

It maybe banned in the US but it's not everywhere.

An icepick to the brain? I would hardly call this a "surgery". I'm just going to call it an "assault". Yes I feel bad for all those who were the victim of this legalized assault in america.

Well it was good for the really mentally ill people

Not banned, just highly regulated now. It's ab actual procedure used in some extreme cases of epilepsy. Also used for certain types of tumor removal.

There's a lot of stuff coming out therapy wise for epilepsy, this may sound taboo but there's research showing low dose psilocybin (low enough where there's no trip) has been used successfully in treating epilepsy.

Has cbd ever helped

Stay safe brother 😘

@@calebmeyerrr9937 Never have tried.... Fortunately, I have been 'cured' with the new prescription meds. 🙂

The government would be respected if they respected the wishes of humanity !

Its the death of that person in every way but the body. Much worse than murder because you not only kill what that person was but also make a caricature of them. Crazy to think that this was legal, nothing of this was done to the benefit the patient. I fascinates people because its so evil.

By the way anti-depressants do the same thing in a way wich is why they are so controversial

yes it is possibly one of the worst things you can do to someone, but if you look at the abrahamic religions you can see how the savages justified it to themselves. the biblical 'good' end, heaven, leaves you a shell of the person you once were and they consider that to be a good thing.

@@comyuse9103 justified what to themselves? and how does believing in heaven leave a shell of yourself?

@@JediWebSurf heaven is literally about leaving everything that makes you you so you can worship an unjust god for eternity. you desires? your free will? they literally cannot exist in heaven, otherwise sin would be there and you would want to do something better with your time.

instead of a lobotomy, we give them twitter and starring roles on television and movies.

why has it come a long way and why is it different or good

​@@poopyanalbumholetf do you mean, man?

So would most teenage girls and then the unhappy wives would get it once hubby had enough.

@@renees1021 A TUNA CASSEROLE? THAT'S IT

Honestly considering how "weird" I was seen as, I wouldnt be surprised if i got lobotomized had the procedure not been banned.

same. scary as hell

@@triliner254 Is this Joe Biden..?

What's bad is it's still not much better in some places

In one facility, their computers went down, and I was denied medication as were Everyone else on the unit. I was there voluntarily but I had a seizure,which as frightening because I knew it was coming. They finally overrode the system to give me medication, but for hours all evening and until the next morning it was bad. People became violent and were restrained when they normally would be given their meds! In second s the place went from 2019 to 1950.

School phobia? Didn’t know there was such a thing until now. I’ve read about it and I’m pretty convinced I’ve had it before. There was a period in my life, where I was faking being sick (not always but I’ve done it way too often). I probably did it like once a week at least, ESPECIALLY on days where I had PE. Now I have been diagnosed with social anxiety and generalized anxiety, so the whole school thing might’ve been one of the reasons as to why I developed those disorders. They never treated me like that though… I just get anti-depressant’s for my anxiety and I’ll be going to a special school where they know how to handle kids with anxiety, adhd, autism, Etc. It disturbs me to know that some people get treated like prisoners bc of something like that… Hope your doing good now though.

Whats school phobia? I think everyone hates school

@@NightinGal89 It's an extreme aversion to going to school.

I don't condone hurting your elders or disrespecting them in any way, but a lot of those who "took" their other half or their sibling or a child, namely a daughter, to get a lobotomy deserved a kick in the nuts. And more.

She is in peace now.

that's messed up

Joe Kennedy was a sociopath like many of his descendants...

@@barneyronnie back then anybody with money or clout tried to hide anybody in their family that was less than 100% perfect

He is surely burning in hell right now, or at least I hope so.

Wow.. Thats awful.. So sorry for Rosemary

I think they were conscious. I don’t think all were anesthetized or asleep..

@@sallymj8957 you are not put to sleep electricity is run through you for a few min. then they do the proceedure. Its in humane. I had quite a number of shock treatments when i was young its horrible and even today alot of my past memory is gone. These old methods should never be repeated and the man got the pulitzer prize for this should be ashamed as well as the people who voted for him to receive it. They are going over it as they now realize this was inhumane and hopefully he looses his standing. The mental health folks back in the day did this for money and recognition not for the health of another. Today im doing quite well, away from the family that i thought loved me but in the end didnt. My heart and love goes out to these young people whom went through this.. The Kennedys were an aweful family .and i often wonder do we really pay for the sins of our fathers. For every young girl whom has had this done my heart loves you and im a grown woman now and i would never want this for anyone. Thanks for reading. Im using my hubbies computer :)

its a horrid thing to happen to someone

I don't understand how someone could or would be conscious for that. I imagine that they would be screaming in pain and definitely trying to leave

@@palestar828 of course they were but ... Honestly I don't think these people were doctors at all just truly sick people hurting others

Was he in a vegetative state immediately after the lobotomy?

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I read it was because the father was late and she wanted him there for the birth . Either way, so crazy

You are correct. Joe Kennedy expected perfectionism in his children and since Rosemary was less than perfect (in his eyes), he wanted to put her away and hide her forever. So very sad. However, Rosemary had her lobotomy in 1941 and JFK was not elected into any public office until after WW2.

So sad she was a victim since during birth

@@kaymuldoon3575 Thank you for correcting me. I must've read the article wrong, then. It's a sad case either way. 🫂

I read that some of her siblings (don't recall who) stopped talking to the dad for good; they were so upset over what he did to their sister : (....he cursed the family

would you mind sharing how the book is called?

@@VaivaPaula95 its called "My Lobotomy"

@@snekki8153 thank you!

all of this is there in the video lol.

@@VaivaPaula95 no problem

So you’re telling his personal story in a RU-vid comment?

@@Seatonni didn't tell you much about his personal story.... for instance no identifying details, apart from he had a club foot and was in a mental facility. And he was quite. I don't think that this intrudes on anyone's privacy. If you know the person from the mental hospital, can you tell us more?

Obama got the Nobel peace prize while destabilizing the entire middle east, Libya, Syria, Egypt which lead to the formation of ISIS and ISIL, dropping so many bombs the US ran out, started a proxy war with Russia in Syria, Bombed a doctors without borders hospital in Africa... and so many more horrible things.

Amen

Right!...Henry Kissinger... Yassir Arafat... hmmmm some murders on the list

Let's all root for Jack Vale, inventor of The Pooter!!!

It just tells you that the biggest positive impact on the world are made by assholes that you would murder if you knew them personally.

Imagine if we still did this for the women that are WAY more out of control than the men. Bring back the lobotomy!

Good point. A truly disgusting practice, nothing more than torture.

That women tend to be more emotional?

@@krispynachos9980 misogyny but ight man whatever u wanna think

Women are cursed with irrationality. So it makes sense for them to take the nails to their skulls.

But today they mutilate a 12 year old who says he/she wants to change gender. This is an age where they can't even decide which pajamas to wear to bed or what shoes to wear to school. Years from now there will be documentaries about the barbaric practices hoisted upon today's children.

Technically, they haven't been banned. They're just not done anymore. I do think there's still a non surgical option now.

Nowadays unruly kids get drugged instead of lobotomies.

@catherine birch aahh yes, nothing better to control your children, that methamphetamine and opium

@@diegoolivares1081 Things haven't changed since I was a kid. When I was a teenager they used Largactyle and other tranquilizers to shut kids up.

yes because parents are forcing "the shot" on their kids right now.

Scarily enough, I think those are the same parents who would object to a belt at all costs for disciplining their kids but wouldn't give this lobotomy a second thought to help with whatever troubles they were having with their kids

It truly is amazing!! ♥️

It's horrible, but actually not that interesting. The brains of children are extremely resilient to damage, due to being able to reroute and re-network the connections through other means (i.e. neuroplasticity). You can see this clearly in the cases of corpus callosotomy in severe, refractory epilepsy. They sever the two hemispheres. In children, the procedure results in almost no ill effects, but in adults, it is extremely detrimental to neurological function. This is also patent in cases of agenesis of the cerebellum; the kids learn some other way to balance and such, but in adults, they'll never walk again.

Imagine how intelligent he would be if he hadn't had this barbaric surgery.

Do u know the name of his book?

What’s the name of the book

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Drooling over herself

That's an overly dramatised version of events.

Yea he’s telling the truth^^

She was probably austistic, which they couldn't understand and as for her family, their over weaning ambition lead to other tragedies.

They forced multiple lobotomy’s on her and her health declined more and more

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that's why I think Aliens forced it onto people with potential to change the world for the better. will make the invasion of 2056 much more difficult for them.

@@robertjensen1048 this is a really gross thing to say.

@@s0urpatchkiddo Only because you haven't thought it out as much as I have.

@@robertjensen1048 no, you’re just a deplorable human being for saying this. you’re not edgy or cool for saying controversial and offensive things. not only was lobotomy unethical, it was horrifically dangerous too. there’s no way this method could’ve ever been precise enough to do it’s intended purpose 100% of the time, and it wasn’t. almost no one who’s had one survived it as well as this man. notice how i’m saying WELL despite it damaging his ability of speech. he’s one of the BEST case scenarios. my advice for you is to go outside, touch some grass, and maybe talk to some people.

Well if the doctor's were given lobotomies. Then there would be no one to give the lobotomies. Except the person giving the lobotomies to the doctor's. Which by itself, the person giving the doctor's a lobotomy would be equivalent to the doctor's giving people lobotomies. It's an endless cycle, you see?

real shit. i feel so sad when i think about those put through this

So do the Elites who are running this country. They're the real nut cases and so was the Dr. Who created this monstrous act..

@@janetduncan87 Exactly!!

It's called self control

Well said. They think we're different because of ignorance... How silly of them.

In some cases people with epilepsy and autism cannot be treated the same way as 'normal/healthy' people, is as simple as that. Also, we joke about everything nowadays, from the silliest things to the most terrible happenings in history, another thing is that we actually mean it. Edit: Also, how much more 'well' do you want to be treated? Modern western countries have tons of laws against discrimination, specified research fields for autism and multiple disorders, (sometimes) forcing a certain way of building the streets so people with wheelchairs can go up... Please explain me.

@@gamermosley7803 yes the laws exist, but they are anything but enforced. also i have autism, and i am a normal, healthy, even fairly fit person. so uh.

@@Celatra By normal/healthy i meant, "perfectly healthy", which is pretty much the requirements for jobs like various branches of the army, police, firefighters... and to some extent construction sites and factories, so again, just as what happens with not only autism but literally any condition, not everyone can and should be treated equally in every aspect of life. Also good for you, I have seen other people with autism that struggle to do the slightest of things, so as what happens with many health conditions, it all depends on the severity/grade of it. And about the law, dont know where you live, but at least here in Spain, laws against discrimination (specially women...) are really damn strict, it just so happens most people who claim to be 'harassed' by employers dont really have the confidence to take the cases to court due to them knowing that is not really harasment but simply, not enough skill level for the job.

@@gamermosley7803 bro. women here get touched and asked questions about pregnancy at their jobs and they get insulted and otherwise sexually harrassed aswell. most people who fall into ASD have no issues with the jobs you mentioned.

Fire in the hole

Fire in the hole

I fired into the hole

fire in my ole

Fire in the hole

no way

Pulling up to Lobotomy

Yep

True

Why

The frontal lobe is the most important part of the brain. It makes you, you. Emotion, personality, thinking everything about you. It not be done.

Oh yes. It didn't actually go much into detail about the after effects of it. Some actually did turn more violent and deranged.

Not so much the corner of your eye as above your eye, breaking the orbital bone to access the cranial vault.

have you seen what doctors are willing to do for money? just look at those freaks that change their whole bodies to look like reptiles, devils, barbie, cartoon characters etc...

@@julcaos Those body modifications are safe procedures, though. And the people undergoing those procedures have fully chosen to do so. It's in no way comparable to a lobotomy.

@@laura121684 understood and I agree, they are different. But my point was mainly on the extremes procedures doctors will do for money.

@@julcaos That's fair. I will absolutely agree with you on that point.

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The scary part is ECT is still practiced to this day.

That’s actually kind of cool to remember everything you’ve forgotten. It sucks that includes the trauma of war… But I still wouldn’t do electric shock therapy!

Yeah it really is crazy they still do ECT today. I can't believe it to be honest.

@@P3rmissionD3ni3d to be fair it’s (as far as I know) only used as a absolute last resort for various forms depression and done with controlled nodes

@@P3rmissionD3ni3d Indeed it is. My dear aunt had ECT done. She took her life in 2012. She was a wonderfully sweet, kind, generous, thoughtful person. Her birthday is tomorrow and I miss her terribly. Anyway, there is no way to know now whether it hurt or helped her. My personal feeling, though, is that it was not a good thing, but it will be an unanswerable question forever. I just worry for anyone who is subject to these procedures, whether voluntary or forced. Wishing everyone well and all the best. ♥️

Thank goodness times have changed! And strong willed little girls, grow up to be highly successful...I bought my daughter a shirt that says "I'm not bossy...I have leadership skills!" ❤

@@jenniechurch5337 I love that! 💪

only girls got lobotomies?

@@asrr62 it's but one aspect that as a woman, makes me feel ill. As a queer person I am horrified at what they did to gay people but I don't need to mention every group in a single comment.

@@isadore7221 women treat children the way men treated women.

What the father did to rosemary is inexcusable. He wanted her out of the way period.

damn

My greataunt Maria had a lobotomy as a teen back in the 1910s. She was the first girl in a family of 9 children. As a very young child of about 5 she did hard difficult work that her mother should have been doing. By 8 she was given full responsibility of running the household. No running water, no electricity, no diapers, no store to buy groceries...and all done in the burning smothering South Texas heat. The boys didn't have to help her bc she was a female and that's what females did. Her mother spent her time in a darkened room in the back of the house popping out babies (fvck you Florencia). When she reached puberty, Maria's hormones kicked in and she started to question her lot. She was promptly institutionalized at South Presa where she further traumatized by the staff and lobotomized when she questioned authority. My mother would visit her and described her as sweet and that she loved bananas. My mother's cousin stated Maria died of a broken heart, insinuating she died bc her love wasn't reciprocated by a crush. No, Maria died in an insane asylum bc her pos parents and the attitudes of the misogynist society of the time. RIP Aunt Maria. You are not forgotten and your story has already been told to my granddaughter.

@@cynthiakeller5954 how horrible! This is the saddest and scariest thing that could happen to innocent young woman.

@@biljam972 TY! Aunt Maria's family tried to brush her under the rug but my mom and her mouth told the truth. Mom was stunning and would not be ignored. Aunt Maria is having the last laugh!

@@cynthiakeller5954 society is horrible to women! Truth should be told.

His name was phineas gage

He also died very young tho

@@kv5917 How

@@dizzysosilly because he had most of his brains blown out of his head, he died of a seizure

I heard this from last pod cast on the left

How was he after lobotomy?

That’s so disturbing. I don’t even see any good reason to do a lobotomy if he didn’t have any problems. Like, assuming it was the best operation money could buy, what was it even fixing in his case? That’s so strange. I’m not religious, but if he was, I hope he’s in heaven - not lobotomized - and in peace.

I hope the dad pays in the next life . Evil

Horrific. Poor guy.

I used to research quite abit on lobotomy, Many claimed that the patients simply loses their personality from a lack of temperament. They can talk, but can't socialise. Some would say that what's left is a soulless empty walking shell. I imagine most people back in the day weren't fully educated in the actual effects of lobotomy. But even today, some said that anti-psychotic drugs can cause people to become such zombified persons. But at least the effects are not from a permanent physical damage.

They still do some of those things nowadays.

If certain people had there way. Such barbaric procedures likely would return. This is why its important that society, medication, and human welfare advances. Lobotomy is a relic of a era where conservative views (not political please don't) and social values were more important than understanding and developing ways of actually helping people.

The saddest irony is exactly this. They were physically damaging and diminishing the functionality of the brain structures arguably most responsible for people 'behaving' themselves! Planning, decision making, hindsight, forethought e.t.c. All decimated by some quack with an ice-pick and a hammer.

@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Hate to tell you this, (yes, you made it political..I so totally will), but conservative views have nothing to do with lobotomization, and everything to do with radical thinking and moral morass (something heuristically controlled by the Democrat Agenda), and the de-humanization of people. Hell, they haven't changed their game in all these years...just the field its played on. Go through history and you'll see that it is NOT conservative viewpoints that think they can decide what's best for others...its the leftist, communist, totalitarian, egotists that plague the democratic party that are replete with human atrocities...continuing unto this day. Conservative views actually support the Rights of INDIVIDUALS! Wake up, already. smh

@@shelleythompson-brock6412 You missed the point of what i meant by conservative views. The US was much different then. Conservative views is more of the social views of the US at the time. Democrats and Republicans pretty much had the same mindset in those eras. especially when it came to the views of how a person was to function in society.

What about his father who stood by and let it happen?

@@glumberty1 Well what do you think? Equally as bad. Goes without saying.

Like anything, goes mainstream and is abused. I think some surgeries today are the same. Delia Morris

"Thatguy" Medicine and surgery has had that kind of origin. It used to be common practice in ancient times .

And awarded the Noble Prize! What a wonderful world hey.

@@obscurelyvague "it used to be common practice in ancient times." That's what that crazy quack believed as well. The fact is no one knows and its all speculation. None of us were living then, but judging by the ancient architecture alone they were far more sophisticated and knowledgeable than us.

I think that was the problem. It might have been a good procedure if was looked into and taken care of very carefully but this guy decided to make it into a business without knowing what he was doing.

this is sick. the fact that people have holes in their head that nobody consented for. we talk ahout consent for sex but this isnt main stream knowledge?

@@ashton-jr6uu not like sex consent was truly out there in these times either tho

Thats a shame and the scary thing is there were many more that happened to.

@@SonicSegatheHedgeHog there are also other forms of malpractice like that today... my father who is a congestive heart failure patient hit the floor several months ago... his blood pressure had fallen to 40/25 ... he had a blank look in his eye i was sure he died before my eyes... my mom rushed into the room i did the sternum rub and she did cpr... he woke up very combatitive but was back enough where we were able to contact the ambliance and they game and took him to a local hospital with a poor reputation... at that ER unit without permission and notification of my mom and myself, they put my father on DNR... pretty sick considering what he was there for... you trust that they will help you and you trust they will save your loved one... but sometimes the only thing saving them is a miracle... Malpractice is a big deal and can cost us our loved ones if we are not side by side with them through everything. this is why its such tragedy that they limit who can see a loved one in ER.

​@@acrock21ambulance

This!!

@@NayaRuth Hey Naya, don't be so ruth-less. 💀

​@@phillipproussier3723 😎

If you think about what people at the time (and some still today) know about consciousness, you have to view their actions from a different angle (at least a little bit). If your view is being influenced by your religious convictions, you may come to the conclusion that your mind is an unaltered "spirit", that is not bound to your body. (free will and all that). Thus you may come to the wrong conclusion, that if someone behaves differently, there must be something wrong with his brain. The mental leap to that pathology being fixable isn't all that huge.

@@yuzuki_seo5209

Shoulda tried to meet her again. See it's not the stories that aggravate me so much as the lack of attention. If someone actually tried to talk to them maybe they'd actually open up about how they felt.

@@zaynes5094alot of them can’t talk, they are barley alive.

Idk about that many of them probably did have some sort of psychological disorder considering allot of people do, but your right this was wrong, probably one of the biggest things it did was provide some sort of alteration in behavior that acted like a placebo to convince family members that they were “cured” and the family then started treat them differently and that changed the whole dynamic of the relationship.

I can. Her parents were very big on image.

It's even more pathetic when we think of JFK being shot years later. A human being turned into a vegetable for nothing.

Well, the Kennedy's aren't exactly decent people. This doesn't surprise me.

That’s why they’re cursed

And what happened to him

There was a railroad worker by name of Phineas Gage who survived having a tamping rod go in through His cheek bone and out the top of His scull. They have quite a few videos about Him on RU-vid.

For the people receiving them, it most definitely was a scary torture technique.

because it is. they probably got some of these torture techniques from the nazi's.

@@metatron333ascension Lobotomy is a bit older than nazism, and is honestly more of an example of how abuse ran rampant in mental health spheres. There is a lot of horror stories about asylums for good reason. If anything, Nazis got there ideas from looking there.

It is I leaned about it in pshe and I swear I don’t know why they would do that

That sounds terribly sick and sad

@@souldancersbyjennifer it WAS sick and sad ...big Joe had no soul whatsoever .

Lobotomies were performed with the patient unconscious... so I'm pretty sure that's a rumor, but it's absolutely horrible what happened to her either way.

In the video it says they were shocked unconscious 🤔

@@livewire2759 Many lobotomies that were preform weren’t really done by a ‘professional’. Not everyone was unconscious while this was preformed.

Joe Biden was lobotomized, right?

That is a scary thought

No your not wrong

I know I would be, for sure, 100%. Like, without a doubt. I’m trans, bi, I have ADHD, severe anxiety, depression, and am just weird overall. Very thankful that this is now illegal, just makes my skin crawl thinking about being born in a different time.

💀 (all of us after the lobotomy)

It really is. Turning people into zombie like beings. Is just disturbing.

Like getting electroshocked against your own will? Oh or these little shots they give you so you stay calm? Still happens to this day... “we just want to help“ ... sure...

@@playlistchannel23 Think from an outside perspective, you'll understand the reason. (and it's not a good reason) What you'll get is actually common misconception in medicine, like treating insulin independent diabetes with insulin secretagogues, drugs' group that will eventually make a patient insulin dependent after destroying their pancreas. Another example is treating a chronic severe stress patient with antihypertensives as if their hypertension isn't psychological, in this case the patient's gets hardly managed if at all.

@@modrribaz1691 make damaging brains thru electroshocks great again, or what? Think from the perspective of someone getting beaten up in the asylum, defending himself and because he did that gets electroshocked. Great help indeed.

@@playlistchannel23 Okay, so I think I need to clarify my previous statement. In other words: "What you're going through as an individual doesn't matter, it's what they observe that matters for them. For example, a core medical treatment for type II diabetes actually makes it worse on the long run and when treating hypertension they don't put chronic psychological troubles into perspective. Lots of them think 'normal blood glucose in diabetic patient and normal blood pressure in a hypertensive patient' is always good because their perspective is not holistic even if they think it is" Do I sound like someone who's supporting the current conventional mindset of the medical field? Or were you someone who want to think other people are always going against them?

I’m glad that she was able to live a more normal life after that, good for her

One of the lucky ones?

Well thats a good ending 👍

@@LatIenws yikes

Wow. Like a movie....Maybe treating the seizures would have been a better result.

山上水也。

hey Kay, i hope you find peace with your past and present and i am sending you lots of love and strength your way. My heart feels very heavy for you, though i do not know you, you didn’t deserve what you went through and that you’re loved. May god bless you for the rest of your years and that you find your forever home and have mental, physical, and spiritual comfort 💕

@@333gyal thank you Ceci!

I'm sorry you went through that Just a reminder that not everyone with BPD is like that. A lot of people with BPD actually tend to be very kind and compassionate and shouldn't be bunched in with the toxic bunch.

@@cof... I would have to disagree with you on that borderline personality when you look in the books they're in the same category with sociopaths and psychopaths I think people are using borderline personality all of a sudden it's become a popular throw out thing but no they are very dangerous and very sick people everybody just starts to use these psychological names like everybody says I have bipolar bipolar this and bipolar that that's b******* we used to call bipolar manic depressive and my boyfriend is a psychologist my ex-boyfriend and he told me way back in the 70s that there are actually very few designated mental illnesses manic depressive is one of them now everybody wants to get on the bandwagon for this or that people should stop doing that.

That sounds so sad. I wish you the best, lots of love ❤️❤️❤️

i’m so sorry to hear about this, e.c.t especially back in those days was horrible and torturous. although i’m really glad you didn’t have to endure this horrible “surgery”.

"Everything you say can and will be used against you" seems to apply with doctors as well as with the police.

I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm glad you narrowly avoided lobotomies, and I hope you're having a good day today.

God loves you and sent His only begotten son to die on the cross for our sins so we can be reborn and find peace.

@@angelbb8195 bro this is not the time and place for this

Independent reviewer? And which asylum was your grandfather at?

In a nutshell...

Your forgot papa. As a mother of a child who was diagnosed with autism in the mid 90’s I hit the library to research everything I could find to help my child. All the books available at the time were written in the 50’s and 60’s. All ascribed this condition to cold sterile mothers. Mommy dearest. Remember women were looked down upon in that time period and it couldn’t possibly been a man held responsible. So rethink that one will you.

@@donnaroberts9119 stfu. Women were just as guilty of this as men. Try taking some fucking accountability for once, and not make this a man vs woman thing. Grow tf up

@@donnaroberts9119 huh??

@@26das_it_mane Relax. She didn't get the joke and thought you were attacking the whole female kind.

How could this slipped in their mind at 2010s?? Why? How's your condition now? I used be normal, then my entrepreneur family business exploded in Scale, we moved a lot. I was homeschooled and ignored to point of not befriended neighbor kid, because we always moving. So i Got acompanied by bad nanny, she looved to shove and kick me every time. It made me even less talkative Tl;dr they noticed me being "shy and different" instead soon-ex-mom put me on "vacation" in a completely different city "in fancy daycare to help me socializing again" without my dad knowing it.. (you get where this lead to eh? Another time for that) till my busy dad got notified i wasn't at home anymore and he visits me couple month later and realized the f*ck place does she puts me into? it's filled by kids with mentally disabled that can't talk with me... great(socialize and fancy my ass i was eating less there) that horrific events made me ultra shy like not even able posting a comment like this till 8 years ago.. now at 21 I've got slight improvement but not much... You ever experienced being perceived as arrogant before? I got plenty and whelp, surprise surprise contacts for personal friend? it's literally empty just my biz associates (that is also already pre arranged by -parents- dad) 😅

@@MaseraSteve I actually have been called arrogant by my dad, one of my teachers, and two people who are no longer my close friends. As you can guess, I have no friends now, unless you count my brother's friend that comes over to see my cat lol. They thought that because I couldn't talk openly to strangers that I must have thought I was better than them. Ironically, I suffered with horrible self esteem, way worse than I have today. My current self esteem isn't great, but I don't let people manipulate me and I can say "no" to their face. It's been very difficult to get to where I am today, I still find myself struggling with the fear of being judged or people viewing me as a shit person when I am not. Therapy helped, but it can only get you so far if you aren't willing to change and grow. How is your condition? I assume "ex-mom" means your parents are divorced? Mine got legally divorced last year, but they haven't been on good terms for most of their 30 year marriage. You and I are close in age. I'll be 21 in two months. How have you been handling things?

@@supernapper01 yes, they are divorced “ ” Ironically They thought i was better than them, i suffered with horrible self esteem ” ” that is why i wanted to ask you that. I received that comments once in a while as kid.. yet all i did was staring slightly at the same time my heart beats fast, definitely panicked.. it made me studied human behavior, but the funny thing is what written about "arrogant people" is that they loved to admire themselves, rub anything they felt superior in your face verbally. Yet non of it described me at all.. i used to reject every chance when asked "want me to take picture of yourself?" At vacation even. How am i now? Thanks for asking too! Definitely a little more talkative, i can glance at their eye level, less stutter (reverts if intimidating) one of my method to improve self esteem is just looking clean (losing weight, ironed nice colored shirt, practice soliloquy in mirror and fitting haircuts) hence 8 years later now i can comment to you ! i also can talk to guy twice my age now but, it's a really shallow connection. Yet my father used to always bring me to observe he socialize with biz associates everytime, maybe lack of getting respect is the play here.. As for peer my age in person? Oh, sh*t! panic attack always come! It's intimidating! dunno where to met or respond with, because I can't connect much, still being disconnected with their world or trends obviously made me an alien. But doesn't stop me to try every encounter like this too. Bday in 2 months eh? So we're 5 months apart then, interesting! What about hobby mate? Because i have no influence from people, i got broad interest such : ask me about History yep, Tech? Yep, Art? Yep, Woodworks yep, Bonsai yep, Automotive? (Eh, leaned to it's design) then, yep! Movie? Not as enjoyable like it used to so maybe if there's an input I'll try to watch it

@@MaseraSteve I totally get it being hard to relate to people the same age. I don't like to associate with modern trends, and I especially dislike TikTok. The only thing I sorta keep up with is memes, since I enjoy seeing people come together for a good laugh. As for hobbies, I enjoy all types of art that I can get my hands on. Ceramics, Painting, Traditional drawing, Digital drawing, photography, you name it. I was also in a welding class in highschool which was very fun. I never got to do wood working since that class was always full, but at least I got to smell the wood as I walked by lol! Those classes were put in by a local college, otherwise my highschool would not have had those classes. I also like tech, although I don't know a whole lot about programming. But I enjoy video games and fixing things. Do you play video games? If so, are you console or PC? Oh! And I also love psychology, so I enjoy studying human behavior, too!

@@supernapper01I realized why there's no reply turns out youtube now are literally banning certain word combined with steam and infamous purple bot. My second attempt to reply with that account are still erased😅. Oh, agree tik tok to me are just like over glorified ad media to me it's too shallow and comedy there aren't funny at all. But in my experiment, the algorithm works better in term of discoverability though. yes i do play! Used to have ps3 and currently on laptop because it's more versatile for my lifestyle nowadays I'm more leaned towards open world and wacky physics like gang beast Love to collect vintage stuff too did your town have sort of antique store of some sorts?

Its a little bit weird the way you call your mother during this comments

@@lounamhb tf are you talking about they’re just using third person to talk it’s not that weird

Your mother could be a narcissist but a dangerous one mines a narcissist and has said threatening things but never anything about a crazy house

@@lounamhb yeah thats the weird part, not what the mother said

I’d say someone who wants to lock up another person simply for having other interests or voicing an opinion is a psychopath and a dangerous person.

It must have been at a time in which it was some social shame for a grown man not to be married. Or maybe it was cultural too

I don’t think either of that will help. What that kid needed was help from a proper psychologist…some good therapy. Not some lobotomy. He just needed to be explained about the big change that’s happening in his life. For kids, that scenario is as big as the world ending. Once he gets to term with that, the relationship can start well. But saying to the new wife that this kid is just being a kid, can be a problem especially if he was being quite volatile towards her. That’s a recipe for disaster. The little boy may not be a danger when he is 5 but imagine he kept his dislike for her as he became a teen. An unruly 18 year old can be detrimental to not only her safety but also the fathers. Because, I’m sure his hatred would also extend to the father, who favors the wife over him and scolds his son.

@@blueshoes5145 wtf are you talking about that has to do with lobotomy

@@obscurelyvague 1) Single men were never in the same position as single women. 2) He was a widower, so it didn't apply to him anyway.

@@blueshoes5145 and some complete terminally online women want to say this was only a crime against girls lol. riduclous.

Maybe that's why John Lennon was a communist

These are very tough situations.

I'm am horrified what you went through! So, so sorry! It sounds like all you needed was intervention, therapy and kindness and PERHAPS some medication. Instead you were treated as less than human. Please know you are deserving of love and respect. I truly hope you have been able to heal and are living your best life. Therapy really has helped me with my trauma, but I also understand if you feel completely done with the medical community. Wishing you the best!🌻❤️

These medical professionals should have had done to them what they did to their patients, with some pistol whipping thrown in for good measure.

SO sorry to hear that you were subjected to that. I knew a kid that went through a similar thing: he got caught with weed and his religious parents sent him off. He came back a completely different person who has never recovered from it. Your story sounds waaaaay worse, though. A 14 year old who is crying out for help needs their parents to listen to and love them. Such a heartbreaking story. They basically gave you a chemical lobotomy instead of a surgical one.

Thank you for sharing your story.

Go figure, it would be too much like right

@@VeeVeeLL3GeminiThis is also the case in Japan. Families just forget about their one child if they have two, those two become their main focus and the mom may come to visit their "other" just to see if they've changed or adjusted at all. Mental illness and mental health care in Japan is even worse than here in a lot of ways.

@@zaynes5094 Wow

Omg same here. I have BPD too. Cant imagine living back then with this condition!

@@anahitazaib4050 BPD is the devil. Granted, there are worse mental illnesses, but just the stigma that surrounds it suck, such as the one where it's often associated with narcissism. I hate that. I hope you're doing well despite having this horrible thing. Several long deep breaths in a row have helped me when I feel like my anger is reaching the point of no return. Other times it just makes me dizzy, but either way, my anger subsides to a reasonable point. Hope you're doing okay, fellow internet stranger!

I dont have bpd,but i have depression and anxiety,and well,i think i could be a victim of this shit

same i have bpd they wouldve lobotomised me extremely quickly

And so many men aswell.

Just horrible….

Doctor Freeman should burn in hell

Probably not. I personaly dont think so.

Met Mengele vergelijken is misschien wel een beetje te veel maar verder heb je gelijk

It also helped people, ypu need to understand that. This is development of medical field.

@@doomergirl6012 Tf is wrong with you.

@@doomergirl6012 rarely..

Thank you

Our systems are pathetic for such cruel stupidity

There are no words. Does she experience joy?

This video isn't about you Dis... though that likely hurts to hear. Not a sole came here to find out if you had clients and what happened to them... not a sole

@@slowery43 soul* also, the RU-vid comment section is made for sharing opinions.

@@slowery43 I'm sorry you were hurt.

It doesn’t go through the eyeball. It goes through the orbital socket.