i agree, i have 3kg (6.6lbs) maltese, she's not showing agresssion towards people when we are out for walks but some people hate or are afraid dogs so much that they've jumped, changed direction, screamed etc. it is a bit odd
I'm a male victim of rape at the hands of a female rapist. I asked a woman who was doing the "all men" thing if I was justified in treating all women like they were predators since I was assaulted by a women. (This was her own logic; she had been raped, so all men were evil). She called me a misogynist for even asking the question.
My advice to you would have been to stay away from women unless you are healed from what happened to you. As someone with CPTSD due to several encounters (not just one) with predators and pedophiles, what abuse lead me to believe about myself caused me not to trust all men. (I also have ASD and ADHD causing the inability to read social cues and understand certain emotions/actions) as I grew into a teenager, I saw any look of desire from a man as a threat because men aren't supposed to desire little girls... And lots of men desire little girls. I also encountered molestation and SA as an adult...even in marriage I was abused. Healing and emotional maturity (as abuse arrests your development) helps put life in perspective and better gauge dangerous situations.
@@andreasrylanderThat is sad that happened. So many rape or molestation victims though, whether men or women, do tend to keep it to themselves and not deal w/ it for the longest time. There's something about this type of abuse that instills guilt and shame, that is totally undeserved. It definitely wasn't your fault in any way. You were no less abused because you're a man either.
@@natashaprice2754I'm pretty much done with my PTSD except I still cannot stay in an elevator if the only other person who gets into it is a woman. I can't even be in tight spaces with my daughters.
I had an argument on Reddit with some girl about this, she screamed saying I didn’t know what it’s like to be a woman. I said actually I do because I am a woman, I have been sexually assaulted and called names by men I’ve said no too. But you know what I have fantastic men in my family and I was in the Army with men who I thought of as brothers. They always would protect me and I would for them, I was sexually assaulted in the Army by another soldier and when I told the guys that I was close too they beat his ass because my unit wouldn’t do anything. Not every man in the whole world is evil and terrible.
Thank you for your service, and I am sorry for what you went through. I'm with you. I've had arguments with other women, irl & online, and the vitriol that gets spewed over "All Men" is terrible. I've been stalked, harassed, assaulted, drugged, and raped. I'm not a wild person, or a "bad girl" and those boys and men were *generally* not the "type" to seem like threats. But they were not Every Man, and I have family and friends who would defend women even if they were strangers. My husband is a good man. But there are women so brainwashed they not only can't grasp the concept of a good man, they call me a traitor for having been raped but not blaming all men, and a "pick me" for defending men. I've seen women with my own eyes and heard them with my own ears picking up lovers, only to claim they were raped when their boyfriends or husbands found out. I get so furious, because it is people like that that made it hard for rape victims to be believed! But not All Women are treacherous, just like not All Men are rapists. It's too polarized anymore. I have a daughter and a son, and I worry for them.
What's the complete opposite of a misogynist? A feminist. The new definition of feminism is "hate towards men," rather than progress for women - like it used to be defined as.
When I was a young boy, about 8 or 9. There was a programme broadcast about a woman’s abuse at the hands of men and she claimed all men were rapists. So I went and asked my mum if I was going to be a rapist ( not even knowing what it meant at that time ). She was mortified. True event in my young life.
Shit. Imagine what went through your mom's mind. Imagine if for a second she thought: thus kid got aware of his sexual urges and is predicting at such young age to be a rapist.
“How to Industrialise Hatred”, just ask Socialism, its had a 100 years of experience, and managed to murder over 100million. Garbage for Humans, but Great for the Planet, Are you Getting It now? It’s called Malthusianism.
The dog example got me laughing since my answer is gen yes 💀 i got bitten by a dog multiple times and have developed a fear of dogs but im getting over it with exposure therapy lol
@@1SSJAsounds prettier and more "I'm actually accomplishing something" to people who are mentally weak. Therapy is great, 'exposure therapy' is literally just getting used to it lmao.
I got mugged by a kid with a knife when I was a teen. I got stab wounds on the inside of my arms and long slash marks all along my left ribcage. I was afraid of knives for a couple years and desensitized myself by forcing myself to cook and do other things involving knives. I became a knife collector and some of my closest friendship revolve around my knife collecting hobby. I went from "ban all knives" to "knife laws are stupid" in the span of a decade.
As someone who was sexually abused by my mother’s father for nine years of my childhood and adolescence, this is something that takes years of healing. I do not hate all men, but my experiences are constantly trying to protect me from the dark sides of them. It is a constant battle in my mind trying to reassure myself of the many good men in this world, including my kind, caring husband. I’d almost liken it to being attacked by a shark. While shark attacks happen very rarely, if you were attacked by a shark, I can assume you would have a hard time going back in the ocean. Unfortunately, things like child sexual abuse, domestic abuse, and rape are far more common than shark attacks, and those crimes are predominantly committed by men. That is not to say that all men are bad. I know very good men. But I do not blame women who have had very negative experiences at the hands of men for being wary of them. The same way that I would not blame a man who had been severely mistreated by women for being wary of them either.
To be cautious and to hate is to completely different things. I think what Amala was trying to explain was that If you get attacked by a dog as a child it is okay to be cautious of them as you get older but to go out of your way to talk negatively of dogs and treat all dogs negatively as an adult is hateful an WRONG!
People have reasons for generalizing negatively about all groups.... "I had a bad experience with _____, therefore I view all of them negatively." They use this to support their bigotry.
I have unwanted sexual advances from both men and women. This has caused me to not be aggressive with the women I have dated. One lady I dated wanted me to be very sexual aggressive. Think like 50 shades of grey. I personally do not find this appealing.
There’s a difference between being cautious/frightened around men (especially if they have some sort of trauma related to men such as SA) and accusing every single man of being terrible
Exactly. She conveniently forgets to provide a nuanced view of this. Women are within their right to not trust men or even strange men. They don't have the right to accuse every single man of being a perp. I sincerely doubt most women view all men through this lens although there will be some ( and maybe this view is increasing lately).
I’m glad I never went thru the “hating all men” faze. Ive had terrible experiences with the men in my life but I don’t associate all men with those experiences. I think focusing on the relationships I have with the honorable and loving men in my life helped me to avoid projecting. Also, let’s not act like mothers and women do not do horrendous things all the time. The human species is capable of evil. That doesn’t mean we all do evil.
I hate hearing these types of comments. I’m a mom of two boys with my fiancée. So I’m surrounded by men. Hateful women want to say men abuse us and harass us, that’s weird because before I was with my fiancée he was in an extremely toxic and abusive relationship with his ex. She verbally and physically abused him every single day and because of that he now has ptsd and goes to weekly therapy because it caused so much trauma. He had every right to defend himself against her but never did because he believed in not harming women. So I would say more men get abused then women, it’s just not reported because of humiliation. It’s terrible.
As a dog owner, i gotta say the dog bite thing was a really bad comparison. 😂 most dog bite victims hate/dont like dogs. & there are many ppl who see them as a threat & get cats as an alternative.
@@R.leo1110 She doesn't. She forgets to understand the history of sexism and misogyny that still exists, specifically in developing countries. I can tell she grew up pretty privileged and naive because where I came from, someone tries to hurt you, you remember and you don't forget! Doesn't mean it's just about guys doing bad stuff to women, but in general to anyone who has harmed you. There's a pretty good reason why your trauma response is there, you're supposed to listen to it!
@@user-mg4qh5ox2t Well, history can't be changed, but the US today isn't history and is not a developing countries, so neither of those still matter. Or do you believe that black people should hate and fear you today because you're white and might enslave us again?
Absolutely. It's always an us vs them. This whole statement ignores how badly a lot of women treat men. So...maybe it's a society issue, and people generally treat other people like trash. People have grown so selfish that the only thing people think about is how can I get mine, regardless of gender, color, religion, etc
*OR MAYBE THEY GREW UP WITHOUT A FATHER AND THE ONLY MALES THEY DID GET TO KNOW WHERE A BUNCH OF PATHETIC LOSERS THAT DID ABUSE WOMEN. DO NOT BE QUICK TO JUDGE.*
Over generalizing is usually just motivated by selfishness.. advancing whoever they happen to be (girl/boy white/black etc.). Or because they are to simple minded... Or both
The only problem is our sisters, moms, friends, aunts all had terrible experiences and it’s the same pretty much everywhere. There are great men but it’s just way too common to be treated poorly at best and assaulted at worst by them. I have to worry going places alone it’s not right
And your brothers, fathers, friends, and uncles have all had horrible experiences with women. The difference? Society doesn't care about what women do to men. After what I've been through, I can tell you there's worse things than assault, and women do them all with impunity.
Exactly. And the issue with this is instead of understanding why women feel this way, often times alt-right or conservatives take the opposite approach. That such views are more harmful ( somehow than actual rape or murder of women itself) and make this narrative all about themselves. Can you imagine the narcissism? I'm all for stopping anyone who hates (this includes women who hate men for no good reason) but this is a minority. And their points still exist: IT IS far more dangerous being a woman due to misogyny. I can't imagine any normal person hearing this and then deciding that it hurts their view of self as a guy and that it really should be about men's feelings in this.
It's okay to be afraid of a single individual or people who resemble that individual, but to link the entire population of a half a species to one individual is irrational thinking 🤷♀️
I think nuance is important here. You don’t need to hate all men, but being cautious of them is wise. Things like assault are actually statistically more likely to be enacted on you as a woman by the men you know (partners, father, brothers, cousins, friends, etc) as opposed to some stranger. It’s like, not every bee stings, but knowing they have the capacity to if they wanted to, is exactly why you should be careful around them, and I think the same applies here. You don’t need to hate men or rage against them, but being cautious around them and being slow to let them into your lives isn’t always a bad choice; after all, if they decide they want to hurt you, there’s little you can do in that moment, so being preventative as possible isn’t something I can fault women for.
It’s the fact that if you reverse this sexism it’s absolutely not okay. It’s more than not okay. Posting this but the other way around would probably get you fired. But when it’s misandry, it’s okay. That’s a huge problem and so so bad if you ask me.
As a young woman I've grown up with the whole "men are perverted creeps" bull and I've never given into it. It bucks but we won't be getting rid of the misconception anytime soon with these "radical" feminists running the show. It's sad.
I just call out the sexism. And most of them seriously don't understand what I am talking about. Even when I gender swap it as an example they say: "You can't make such generalisations" Or they simply play the victim. Ehm yeah, thats exactly my whole point! But seeing hating all men as something similar as hating all women just doesn't get trough to most of these people.
@@Fuzz82 It never does to people who generalize and think as collectivists. I see the men's red pill forums and their collective attitude to women is really bad too. It's as disturbing when I see it from feminists as when I see it from meninists. It's too bad this division of the sexes has been created. And it definitely has been created, fomented and cultivated.
@@hossy540 Well just like @taylorjudi. I am also very afraid of dogs because of bad experience i went through. But as for small breeds like Yorkies, I do admire them, so maybe I wouldn't see them as a threat but still be wary of them a little bit because of the trauma.
@@hossy540 In general I view little breeds like Chihuahuas and Yorkies as just as much of a threat as larger dogs, while the small breeds are capable of much less damage, that fact leads a higher percentage of small dog owners into letting aggressive and reactive behaviors continue in their pets than the larger dogs, their small size also seems to lead to higher liklihoods of fear based and defensive aggressive behaviors.
If I get bitten by a dog I would certainly not think all dogs are dangerous... But I will be extra cautious and scared to be near a dog again. Bad experiences with something creates a negative generalisation... Which can't be helped or blamed
No, but if you are scared of all dogs you are developing a phobia, which should be treated by a mental health profesional, because it decreases the quality of life of a person. Being scared of all men, and thinking they are all evil, after an attack is the same. People shouldn´t live with phobias.
if someone would get bitten or attacked by a dog, there’s a lot of chance it traumatizes them and they become scared of all dog…it’s the same that happens with some women…we can not blame them. even if not all men are like that, it is understandable for women to be so scared if they have bad experiences with men in the past. totally normal.
Another woman can be more dangerous than any man. She'll get close to you because she's "safe" to you. I've had more than my fair share of snakes. A real man is more likely to protect you.
You need therapy. You are more likely to be assaulted and harassed by another woman than by a man. Women are more likely to abuse/ unalive their own children. But, you're scared of a man?
@@gf11511So if a male has a gun for self defense that's fine but if a woman does she needs mental help? Tell that to males who have more guns than a small army.
I'm a man and growing up I had horrible experiences with women and girls. For many years I hated women. Still trying to heal from those experiences. Do think all women are like this. No.
The dof bite analogy is probably more apt than Amala realizes: some people would indeed regard all dogs as dangerous after a bad experience, especially if no positive experience balance that. And that may very well be similar with misandrist feminists. - not everyone experiences positive role models when growing up.
I’m glad you think not all men are evil, Amala. I know not all women are evil too. I’m over the gender wars. I hope you are safe, and thank you for this short. Happy Leap Year!
women who said all men are bad probably have a bad or non existing relationship with their dads. because if not, how can all men be bad if they have a great dad?
@@Jerseybytes2 Same thing with men who hate women though. Hell, I'm a woman and because of my mom, I have a hard time trusting other women. But every person is different, and if you have a problem, that's internal and needs to be fixed by you.
@tonechickagaincallth7843 its more statistics that men see who hate women. youd be quite surprised who commits most heinous crimes and give you a hint its not men as FBI statistics shows it or even CDC.
I've worked with people who have been bitten by dogs, and have severe trauma around them, and have developed extreme fear to go near them. They might not "hate" all dogs, but in general they do believe they are all of a similar nature that could damage them like the dog that bit/mauled them did. This takes a lot of therapy, sometimes years to treat, and in some cases it may never be healed if the trauma is so deep. I suspect that rightly or wrongly, if the reason you hate men is because a man abused or attacked you, then I can see how easily a person could come to this conclusion, as a form of self protection. It is very complicated.
I feel sad for the women who have had these negative experiences with men because I’ve so many loving and strong men in my life. My father,both grandfathers and lots of uncles and older cousins that I look up to and feel safe and comfortable being around. I’m sorry that they haven’t gotten to experience that.
I had bad experiences with my ex in Highschool. Those experiences are linked to him and him alone. I trust most men I come across and some I come across I don’t. Overall men are fantastic, funny, and so easy to please it makes me happy.
I’m so not easy to please 🥱 *this is a lie, I found bubble wrap while walking back to my college campus and have had such a great day after that moment.*
@@JohnsonHoword my little sister is like that. It’s kind of upsetting really because she’s never had a bad experience with a guy, she just doesn’t like them and thinks she’s smarter than everyone in the room. We don’t have a relationship.
I've had a few creepy experiences with men, including a stalker. Admittedly, this did cause me to develop anxiety around male strangers, but that's my own issue, and I'm working through that. I do not hate all men or consider them to all be pigs. If I did, I'd feel even more miserable.
For sure. I used to hang out around some girls that called themselves radical feminists and “proud misandrists”. They ALWAYS had boyfriends who they loved dearly. But on social media it was “all men are evil!”
At the same time, a woman can be wary of all men without vilifying all men. The latter is harmful to society and, by extension, women. Vilifying all of one demographic breeds a built in excuse for shitty behavior
Isn't there a word that describes assigning certain traits to all members of a group because that trait has been observed in a small number of that group? I'm pretty sure there's a word for that.
As someone who's been wronged by almost every man in my life, each of my five brothers, boyfriends, friends, step-father; I am yet to see reason to not be afraid of them.
Your ghosting the experience of some women. Just because you were protected does not mean others were not. I have experience abuse by most men I've encountered... often they do not know they are being abusive because I am so low in their estimation. It took 50 years to learn how to protect myself and I'm still learning that u have to remember self love actively to defend yourself
If you get bitten by a dog, it's only natural to be scared of all dogs. How do you know which ones are the good ones and which ones are the bad ones. Survival instinct will make you wary of all of them.
yes, not all men but it's about unwillingness to take a risk again to find out if next man is or isn't an ahole. I've been single since 2018, turning 37 this year and honestly, i am not willing to take that risk any time soon. I have great male friends (in relationships, i have great men in my family) but somehow i tend to pick wolves in sheeps skins
Then have the me.n you trust help you filter through the ones you are interested in. I have a real talent for being able to catch out creeps and weirdos within second of meeting them and my friends and family always ask and heed my warnings. Never been wrong yet.
@@boxtradums0073 i've been two long relationships, both met my family and all, no one suspected a thing. Last one was especially good at masking, behaving like a gent to everyone, very polite, respectful.
@@marvahinspace you see to me that’s one of the biggest ‘red flags’ if a he goes above and beyond to be polite and respectful to other men that’s pure creep behaviour. I catch people out all the time because my natural presence makes those types of m.en really uncomfortable so they over compensate. Another huge ‘red flag’ is when you start saying something but they finish what you are saying. You need to find yourself a male friend who is a bit intimidating just by their nature. Ps I’m not saying this to act a hard man but even as a child I made my male peers nervous and I was never a bully.
@@marvahinspace being overly nice to a partners friends and family is actually suspicious. Going above and beyond to make an impression is one of the biggest ‘spidey sense’ moments for me. Also finishing off someone else’s sentences is another.
BAD MEN also have daughters, sisters and nieces. The women born into THOSE families have the hardest time resolving the abuse, hatred and misogyny they grew up in.
@@kickmuncher3 really I’ve yet to hear a single wom.an speak up about abuse the other way around. Just look at the lack of outrage when a fem.ale teacher gets caught with inappropriate relationships with .male. Children.
@@boxtradums0073 there should be outrage when that happens and I will never understand why they aren’t punished enough … as a women it drives me insane when I hear someone say a women can’t do that or a boy should be proud of something like that happening … it disgusts me
@@kickmuncher3 well you are one of the very few and sentencing shows just how biased courts are towards me.n. If it was the other way around it would be years in prison with all kinds of abuse inside.
As a 59 year old divorced male I will say that many women in their 20's and 30's look at older men as a great choice for dating because we are much more secure and respectful than younger men.
Men go through the same thing with women. When these people truly mature out of it they realize the problem all along was the people they were attempting to choose as partners for them. Most people respond more to biological impulses or arbitrary characteristics when selecting a partner. They aren't considering who they are, the difficulty a partner might have to deal with in them, or really whether the person they are selecting represents what's important to them or what they need in life. Part of maturing here involves learning yourself and understanding the balance of what you have to give and what you should take to make a relationship work. Sometimes when we don't recognize our own flaws or why we really choose the people we share our lives with, we also don't realize that sometimes two people together are like a chemical reaction bringing out the worst in both of you. Sometimes it turns out that awful ex who hurt you is really just an awful mix of two people that bring out the worst in each other. In the end, for too many people, it's easier to blame "men" or "women" than it is to admit we failed to do our own work in growing and picked our partners in life poorly.
Well said. Also for me, I blamed all women for awhile because it’s what you see online. All the stuff about hating men and the pickiness and entitlement of a lot of women got to my head. And generalized all women and avoided all women. Like a lot of redpill men do. You’re not going to see a woman like my wife who damn near tears up talking about her father who she loves so much because he would do anything for her. And you’re not going to see how I broke down mentally a few days ago and my wife called my mom crying and saying I need help. And another woman (my mom) did everything she could to help me get a few days extra off work. Women caring for and appreciating men. It’s easy to blame an entire other gender especially when you don’t have a lot of experiences with them. Unfortunately the bad experiences tend to hurt more than the good experiences feel good. So the bad ones we remember at the forefront, to protect ourselves. But if stop and use some cognitive effort and think about the opposite gender people who were nice or caring to us, you can probably come up with a ton of them. Even if just in platonic interactions throughout your life. We see the bad stuff because the algorithms run on us being outraged. Because angry people leave comments and likes
What if a women isn’t able to talk about her father that way because he truly wasn’t the nicest? Would a man still consider being with her? I genuinely would like to know because what if a man gets weary of me because of the relationship with my father? That wouldn’t really be fair, right?
@@kickmuncher3 My wife's father was not nice, he was kind of messed up to her and left her with some things in her head that I still combat to silence to this day. My parents, especially my mother were jacked up, and did some damage it took me a long time to even realize was there. My wife has been a guiding voice in fighting those voices the whole time. Sometimes we have trauma, sometimes we have damage, and that's perfectly okay. It is our responsibility to get to a healthy enough place dealing with these things that we don't inflict harm on those around us. Neither of us are openly hating on our parents, which is a good marker of how far we've come in dealing with it. We can see the things that made them the way they were and realize they were just humans that we didn't have a good relationship with. If you've dome the work and overcome the trauma from a harmful relationship with your parent(s), you know, because it's some of the hardest work you'll ever do and how it needs to be done is different for us all. Those who think they've done done it and it's easy haven't even started yet. Once you know, you know, and it changes you. At that point in your life, you never need to ask if it's okay, because you'll know that the only people who would judge you otherwise are not on the level you should expect from a partner. You and everyone should always remember that you are a valid person, your lived experiences are real things you must face and deal with in life. For those with trauma, it is our responsibility to figure out that we have it, face it, deal with the ramifications, and get to the point where we can acknowledge when it impacts us and not harm others because of it. A real example of that trauma often manifests in ways such as resentment towards groups of people who resemble the source of your trauma. A really good marker that you have this kind of trauma, although there can be other sources, so it's best to work this out with a psychologist, is when you feel hostility towards all men or all women. A man who has a strong loving bond with his mother will have a hard time even after the worst breakup truly believing all women are bad. Likewise, a woman who has a strong loving bond with her father will have a really hard time truly believing all men are bad because of that bond. Historically, we usually don't hear about this stuff because those people often try to emulate that loving relationship in their partners. I have a saying I've been saying for many years. Your opposite sex parent has never been what you will aspire to be. Your dad can not teach you how to live as a woman, because he's never walked a day in a body like yours or face what you've faced. Likewise a mother can not teach her son how to be a strong man, because she doesn't know. The best role such a parent can ever play in your life is to be an example of what they should expect from their partners, to teach them how to be loved through example and love them unconditionally. If a woman sees her father mistreat her mom, he is teaching her what to expect from men, and if her mom takes it, she is teaching her daughter how she should respond to these things. Broken families are a reality of life, but this doesn't change our responsibilities nor does it change how we teach others looking to us for examples. I came from a broken family and I was absolutely damaged by it, I have damage that I will take to my grave. That doesn't mean anyone, not my wife or my kids should suffer because I suffered, it is our job to be the one who breaks generational trauma. We can use them as an excuse to perpetuate the damage and be a victim with a good defense story, or we can own it, deal with it, and do better for future generations. If your father failed to show you the love you need, don't blame it on all men, just be careful, take time to heal, and look for a man who embodies the best qualities you wish you had a father to show you. Find a man who shows you through his deeds, not through your belief in him, that he is someone you can trust with the most fragile and gentle part of your soul, and he will protect and safeguard that part of you. Likewise, be the person that he can do the same with, because we all have a part of our heart we need to protect, and for our partners we must be the one to help them protect it, not embody what they are protecting it from.
How about the possibility that the woman who hate men are attracted to a certain type of man, the bad boy for example, that they go after then are shocked when that type of guy always treats them the same way? Maybe it’s not the men to blame but it’s her choices in men!
Unfortunately, they are the same people who hate cats and dogs because they were bitten once. In my own experience, I was hurt once by a man and fell into the mentality. I was not emotionally or mentally well after a toxic relationship. It was my love for my brothers that flew in the face of this rhetoric. I love them more than the pain one person caused me.. There are some bad people out there, but the majority are good and try to maintain goodness. The truth is hurt people (i.e. mentally or emotionally unwell) hurt other people. I did fall into the cycle, but I challenged it and came out. My brothers are the BEST men and I am proud of them for loving me through a time I was not kind. I thank them by being kind and standing against the "all men" hivemind.
If you get bitten by a dog you're definitely going to be a lot more wary of other dogs, even whilst knowing not all dogs will bite. Where your safety is concerned you're going to make decisions that will protect yourself better in the future. Just like if you get hurt by a man. Dont think this was the best analogy, even if I do agree that the hatred for men is stupid.
Except that the majority of these drunkies have never actually experienced the metaphorical dog bite. They're just regurgitating the nonsense they saw on social media.
@@BobulissNah, most have. It's common for people to act like that, the problem is they act like it only happens to them. Most men have dealt with women that do those exact same things, the difference is we don't encourage our own to start treating all women like they're responsible. We ususally call out other men for acting that way.
and there's potential danger in every man there's also potential danger in every woman. As an adult human being, you're expected to be able to deal with potential threats without blaming 50% of the population. If I have had bad experiences with black people, am I justified in "seeing the potential danger in all black people"?
As a dog owner, I hear it allllll the time that someone is afraid of my dogs because they were bit by one years ago. I have only met one person who was but by a dog and isn't afraid of dogs and that person is what you would call an exception
Actually there's lots of people who were bitten by dogs and aren't traumatized by it; we just don't tend to announce that we were bitten. Because we're not traumatized.
I don't know that the dog argument is the best one to make, because it's a very psychological one that effects people differently. My mom *loved* dogs, but she was scared of all siberian huskies because one bit her. Even though she logically knew not all huskies were bad, she couldn't help them scaring her. I've also met people who were afraid of all dogs because they were bitten. It seems especially true if the bite happened as a young child.
"Good men" are actually quite rare. And with good I mean a guy who truely values a women, is respectfull and suppost her... most of those "good men" still want to control a women or shame her body and life. I don't hate men in general but yeah I don't want nor need one in my personal life. I have a very nice girlfriend and that's the best that could have ever happened to me
I think a good partner which will bring value to your life is hard to find. That’s why so many people choose to live alone. I had more free time and was healthier and fitter as well my home was much cleaner when I was alone.
I'm 41 & a conversation came up while I was working at Walmart among 3 girls ages 16-21. The 16 yr old had given a young man a ride home & he pushed her up against her door & held her there. Nothing else happened, but it scared her enough to say yeah im done with men & stick with girls only because it's safer...to which the other 2 completely agreed! I don't feel men are getting "the talk" from good father figures & porn obviously portraits fantasy that women like it rough. Working with young adults 16+, I definitely see a lack of good healthy relationships to model after from an older generation of single parents without strong morals.
What are your thoughts on an imaginary statements like "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslim" or "not all blacks kill other blacks, but almost all killers of blacks are black"?
Women attack men all the time and are far more likely to get away with it. I could believe that men do it more overall, but I suspect it would even out quite a bit if we could get accurate statistics of the younger generations
That’s because men are the doers in society. Women are more status quo. Men are all the extremes. Men are the killers, but also the protectors. Men are the dumb ones, but also the geniuses. Men have destroyed and built societies. Women are more person-focused and more…in the background I guess? I don’t know but they’re not usually the ones out there ACTING on the world. So yeah men commit almost all the crimes but also build literally everything. I don’t think it’s fair to just point the finger at the bad stuff
I’m so tired of hearing women say, “all men are horrible!” It’s unfair to the MAJORITY of men who are good honest men, and it also seems to me that they forget that there are just as many horrible women out there
I have met plenty of people who view all dogs as a threat. Some had very, very bad experiences with dogs in the past. However, the mature 'dog fearers' act sensibly around dogs, telling their owners of their apprehension, being calm and sensible around dogs and quietly removing themselves to a distance. Others act hysterical when there is no approach by a passing dog, becoming verbally abusive of the owner, despite no evidence of aggressive behaviour from the dog or owner. I completely agree about maturing out of the fear mentality. It's okay to be cautious and circumspect, not okay to make every man 'the problem' and accepting no accountability for managing and modifying their apprehensive state.
Women have nothing to worry about when it comes to me, I avoid them at all costs - I'm fed up with the rhetoric, and being blamed for all that's bad in the world.
When someone develops a phobia of dogs because of getting bitten by one, yes they tend to have that reaction to all dogs. Even friendly ones. It takes time to re-teach someone of their PTSD or phobia.
Ofc they do. But let's be fair, most criminal deeds are done by men. Like, not even most, but the vast majority. Men are more violent. Men are also violent to other men. Sure, women do stuff like that too, but most perpetrators are men.
Some women think like that, yeah. It doesn't help that society thinks that r@pe jokes involving men everyone can laugh, that female teachers doing the la cucaracha with 15-year-old *boys* are "empowered" and "a fantasy" for the victim, or that it's genitaI mutilation for women, "circumcision" for men... etc. Including some men thinking like that about men. And I'm a man, I know.
Yes, yes people who get bit by a dog usually have fear also everyday a woman died due to domestic violence, most molestation is s family member or friend. Worse missing girls between 10-16. It’s unbelievable.
Absolutely! I got attacked by a dog as a kid, and I was terrified of dogs for like the next 10 years. Not all men are like this, but I have yet to meet one that isn’t. I do know they are out there, though.
Actually many people who get bit by a dog view all dogs as a threat. I view dogs as a threat and I’ve never even been bitten by one. It just so happens that when big dogs are playful they jump and I’m short so they knock me over
It's a sad place in this world right now. It's hard to find positivity with all the chaos. My husband is an amazing man whose presence reminds me there are good men out there. While at the same time, I was assaulted by my own cousin.
I have known several people who say all dogs are dangerous. People unfortunately don't usually step outside their own experience to see how things are.
Many people become scared of dogs when they have a really bad experience with one, others don't. I think it's the same for women, some have a really bad experience and fixate on that one bad thing that happened to them, while others just move on. My mom watched her cousin's head be ripped open by a dog, she has never been able to trust a dog since, or at least not a big one, while my brother was bit on the lip by a dog and he still loves dogs. Similarly, I have a friend who's dad is incredibly manipulative and cheated on her mom many times and this has forever tainted her image of men, while another friend of mine has never met her biological dad and her step-dad is an alcoholic and borderline abusive, yet she's had enough positive experiences with men that she moves on from the bad ones.
If we are talking physical and verbal abuse I've seen more women openly hit and verbal abuse a man even out in public that's how you know they do it more, if they comfortable attacking someone first in public you know they more abusive.
Not all men are bad, not all women are good. However, I was almost murdered by my 6'2, ripped, abusive boyfriend. He didn't start out so misogynistic. I noticed he started frequenting more and more online red-pill forums and as he did, he beat me more and some of his beliefs became twisted. He expected me to 'submit' and that it was my job to 'cook, clean, and never talk to any other guy' (even just acquaintances). Eventually he was convicted for abusing me, and then abusing three other girls. There's something happening online that is driving vulnerable men to become toxic, and driving other groups to the edge as well. I think that it's sad that people say 'women hate men'--it's a way to drive us further apart and categorize us.
I have been assaulted numerous times. One of them was a cop. However I do not put that on every other man or cop. It’s not fair to see all of them being that way.
The dog analogy is ridiculous. My mother was scared of dogs when I was growing up and she still is and now I’m TERRIFIED of ALL dogs. Idc if they’re small or not. Many people have the fear of dogs..it’s called cynophobia.
I mean, getting bitten by a dog is a good example. There are some people out there that are afraid of certain breeds of dogs or even dogs in general. Not even because they've been bitten but because they've heard rumors about how often dogs bite. This is sadly the same thing just directed at men.
This isn't a matter or rumors of how often it happens. It's a matter of when it does happen, and how traumatic it will be. Very few dog breeds cause fear because of rumors of them biting. They cause fear because people know what happens when they do bite, and that it's much worse than a bite. Comparing different breeds of dogs is like comparing a man slapping a woman to a man beating a woman and leaving her in the icu. She's still being struck, but one is obviously far worse and worth being overly cautious about.
I do actually view all dogs as a threat. I really dislike when people walk their dogs sans leash. And I do view unknown men as potential threats, but that's just situational awareness. I don't hate men, I'm just more wary of them than of women. A guy was walking behind me down a hotel hallway a couple days ago, and I simply stepped to the side and pretended to be briefly lost as to which room I needed so he'd walk past me. I don't need some dude seeing which room I go Into, ya know? It's not hatred, it's just being aware that strangers can be a threat. Wish someone had taught me these things as a teen girl, a lot of things could have been avoided.
I’ve had awful experiences with a few men, but I don’t put them all in one category. Instead I’m just cautious and untrusting of them until I personally know they’re not a threat to me.🤷♀️
Yes lmao the amount of people that are scared of all dogs bc of one experience is astounding. Totally valid fear of men when uve been thru so much trauma, its not something u control
I was bitten in the eye by a dog when I was a child (for no reason) so, yes, I view *all* dogs as a threat now. I was assaulted 3 times when I was a young child by men. I know they can be a threat, but I would never walk around proclaiming my fear of men like a magical incantation. You can be vigilant without being belligerent about it. And I don’t hate men; I just understand the world I live in. We all need Jesus.
I've had terrible experiences with women who were manipulative, emotionally abusive, liars, cheaters, etc. But I found a good one, thank God. The world is slowly decaying, the people and societies as well.
Trouble is it’s hard to tell which ones are and which ones aren’t. When you are bitten by a dog, you become wary of all dogs. And men these days are very deceptive. In generations past, they didn’t have to be because the cops and the courts and even the so-called Haven houses turned the blind eye. It’s so covert at times you don’t even see they are evil until it’s too late. They even turned from physical to kinds of abuse that cannot be substantially proven such as verbal, emotional, mental, psychological, monetary and spiritual abuse. Source, I was raised and lived in both generations and been victim of both.
But there are a lot of women who have horrible fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins and male teachers. When every man in your life has been abusive in some way, it's hard to take that risk of giving another man a chance.
As a man, I genuinely love being compared to dogs and I think it's fairly appropriate. Some men are golden retrievers, they love everyone wholeheartedly. Some men are cane corsos, they hate everyone except the few people they love with unmatched passion. A lot of us are labs, goofy derps that just want to live a fun life and eat lots of tasty food.
A nuanced point here. Agree with the dog analogy, and the idea that for women who have good men in their lives there is certainly a need for injecting nuance into the conversation. But, there are certainly women who have been abused by those very men who should be the “good men” in their lives - men in positions of trust let’s call them. They can be fathers, uncles, brothers, teachers, pastors, neighbors, friends…That abuse ranges from full on physical sexual abuse perpetrated on a woman (often when she was a pre-pubescent child or adolescent) by men in positions of trust across a range of physical acts directly on the woman or on other women, and other non-physical behaviors like emotional abuse and neglect. As men we have to come to terms that one of the reasons there are so many women like this out there is because they’ve been abuse by a man or men that violated positions of trust.
The dog example: all dogs may be perceived as a threat if the negative experience is traumatizing. Same with men. Is it right or fair? No, yet it is a reality by which I believe we should be more sympathetic. Some women are fortunate not to experience abuse, being assaulted or anything else negative that would scar their very soul. That's not a lack of maturity, it's a lack of healing.
Tbf I was chased by a Rottweiler while walking through my childhood neighborhood, tried to jump a fence to escape, ended up stuck upside down because the fence spikes at the top caught my shirt. So I was upside down on a fence being barked at within an inch of my face by a dog that wanted to eat me, so I was afraid of dogs in general for a long time. It wasn't until probably a decade later that I really started to enjoy dogs again. I agree there should be nuance but I just wanted to add this point to the mix. My experience with a dog was so traumatic that I physically could not be near dogs without panicking. I agree with mindset that not all men are bad, again I just wanted to comment specifically on amela's comment about dogs.
