This is why the idea of smart motorways are dangerous 

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Of course, you will have read up on what you’re supposed to do if you stop in one right? I mean, I hear a lot of moaning but not a lot of people have actually bothered to educate themselves about them. Who’s fault is that.

Just floor it and you’ll be fine😂

False. Exiting an EA bay is done under the supervision of Highways/Police. You will usually get the lane closed and/or an escort to assist you with leaving the bay. This is all reliant upon you picking up the phone in the bay and informing Highways of the issue, which you are required to do and there is signage explaining this within the bays.

@@pentaveratevideo Pathetic and dangerous.... the statistics say it all. You can only educate yourself so much... doesn't change anything

I don't think these variable speed limit smart motorways are controlled by human operators. My understanding is that they switch based on computer algorithms and past data. I could be wrong.

@@adil-hussain-84 That's true to an extent but someone physically has to arrive to help you out of a refuge area.

@@rogueuniversities6866 Btw, I totally agree with the video that "smart motorways" are dangerous. I was just trying to call out that aspects of smart motorways are controlled by software. This is actually my main bone of contention with these smart motorways, i.e. the software is not so smart and has some way to go.

The lane closure can be controlled remotely. I pulled into the emergency area on the M1, and the operator asked if I wanted the left lane closed so I could get back onto the motorway.

@@LondonRider12 I wouldn't trust that, too many people ignore the overhead signs, either intentionally or because too many muppets are bunched up instead of keeping a safe distance so people can't move over.

Oh dont be so dramatic. Yes he broke the rules, but no one was in danger. He could see 30 seconds ahead.

There's nothing "safe" about hard shoulders.

@@pentaveratevideo less safe without them

@@pentaveratevideo but at least there is the option of pulling over to.where are you supposed to go if you break down to the point of not being able to go to the nearest exit

@@melgrant7404 you're making one big assumption there though: live lane breakdowns don't happen on traditional motorways with a hard shoulder. They do and if you end up in that position, you're going to be wishing for the assistant that the signals can provide. Live lane breakdowns on smart motorways tend to happen quite often because the driver isn't paying attention to where the EA bays are. I've personally attended live lane breakdowns where a car has entered limp mode and they driver has just stopped in lane 1. Likewise I've attended really minor rtcs where driver have got out into a live lane to exchange details rather than driving to the nearest place of relative safety. The issue with smart motorways continues to be the drivers using them, not the motorways themselves.

@@pentaveratevideo I for one would not like to breakdown on a smart motorway in a live Lane it would be terrifying . People have been killed on them.

Why exactly?

They look smart. Just look at the view.

100 people a year die on the hard shoulder. We should make hard shoulders illegal. Or perhaps we should address why people run into stationary vehicles on the hard shoulder. Perhaps we should investigate why someone doesn’t see a stationary vehicle in front of them. What are they doing when they should be looking straight ahead?

You are aware that 'smart motorways ' were a Dutch concept originally right? And last time I looked Holland isn't a third world country either.

What safe haven? The hard shoulder? Where over 100 are killed every year.

@@911HRW whilst the hard shoulder isnt exactly safe, its better than an active lane.

@@Nbomber, not 'active' though was it? Or didn't you see the red x?

@@deanrogers6028 ok fair point, but any reasonable person can agree that sometimes is it, sometimes it isnt, is just inviting a statistically gauranteed accident.

@@Nbomber Sometimes the sensors malfunction.

Hello, following up on my previous message - could I use this footage in a documentary about the dangers of Smart Motorways?

Things don’t happen suddenly though do they. You’ll have a warning first, like the guy driving around my street with his exhaust blowing, he won’t worry until it falls off on the motorway, what about those that never check their tyres then have a blow out? What about those that run out of fuel on the motorway? What about the warning lights on the dashboard letting you know you have an issue that’s often ignored? Don’t drivers needed to assume any responsibility at all for poorly maintained vehicles?

@@911HRW you clearly never had a timing chain go. It stops fast and won't move. If you are left in that situation your Dead!

@@911HRW That's utter nonsense. You could go extreme lengths to check your car is safe and have something random happen - a dog jumping onto the motorway because most owners are idiots and don't train them and then let them off lead, someone else having crashed that you don't notice straight away because the system hasn't yet activated the warning signs and it's dark so you can only see as far as your dipped beams let you, a rotting tree falling over, some manufacturer problem with your car, etc etc etc. In the examples you provide, those drivers are knobs, but what about sudden occurrences? A normal motorway means you can try to pull over to the relative safety of the hard shoulder (then obviously get the heck out on the passenger side and behind the barriers) within seconds. As shown on the video, a so-called smart motorway can mean trying to trundle along for a whole minute, only to find out the refuge area is still in use and you have to somehow get another half a mile - so a full mile in total - before you can get to safety.

@@rogueuniversities6866 How the heck is a hard shoulder going to save you from a ‘rotten tree’?!

@@CORNERofTECH It's not, it was just an example of unforeseen circumstances.

Not just the white car. The two lorries in front and whoever else was in front of them. Absolutely ridiculous.

I suspect, while plenty of drivers speed, a lot in the right hand lanes didn't notice the sign to the far left, as motorway signs tend to be on gantries above the road or on the left for things actually on the left, such as junctions.

@@rogueuniversities6866 You can easily notice and properly read the sign in the outmost lane.

@@CORNERofTECH You can but I suspect most didn't

@@rogueuniversities6866 Because of dumb drivers and Smart Motorways. Opposites repel I guess.

@@CORNERofTECH That may be true if Smart Motorways were smart. They're not.

He wouldn’t be stupid enough to be in an unreliable car on a fast road in the first place. That’s part of the problem

It’s been converted. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️💇🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️

When you tyre blows, do you go from 70 to 0 in 1 metre?

@@911HRW - when a car suddenly loses power on an uphill incline, can it still continue to roll for another 50 seconds to the refuge? or do you think there are no uphill inclines in England? or do you think there is no such thing as a sudden loss of power in a car?

@@icklespec9415 As a car mechanic of 24 years and who has worked on motorways for most of my life, no, cars don’t suddenly stop. You get warning. Explain to me why I attend cars and I ask the driver how long that light has been on on their dash and they say about 3 weeks? Explain why I go to 5 cars a week that have ran out of fuel. Explain to me why I hear the same car driving around with its exhaust blowing just waiting for it to fall off at speed on a motorway. Explain why I have to change tyres on cars where there is wire coming through as they never check them? Explain to me why I get called to cars with no headlights as they had one blow and never ever check their lights and the other blows? Did you check your car over today?

@@911HRW - thats a lot of effin questions. lollll I will answer the very last one....NO!!!! haha

@@911HRW also a mechanic and my car suddenly died in outside lane on M6 last Thurs, a hose clip had failed on a boost hose, result being a sudden woosh and stop. Due to high traffic volume and middle lane now going faster than my trundle, I couldn't go left safely. No warning lights etc (obviously) on dash and said hose clip had given me no reason to change it in my 3yrs of car ownership.

I always let lorries go before me even if I'm approaching from the right on a roundabout. I know it can take much longer distance for them to brake, especially when fully loaded.

Or someone who has stopped illegally for a wee and has pulled out of the hard shoulder at 10mph

@@911HRW At least he has the opportunity, if not the common sense, to get up to speed on the hard shoulder before rejoining a live lane, unlike in a lay-by.

@@Loosehead, if the driver who stops in the emergency bay follows the procedure, which is laid down, they will have used the emergency telephone and the inside lane will have been closed to enable them to exit safely. However if they didn't......

Its about the overhead signs telling traffic to slow right down when they is no sign of a Obstruction.

Oh

Hmmmm....

The motorway is dangerous in its design. it should not be like this there needs to be more safe refuges for drivers