This Kiriko Got Accused of NOT Healing... Is it True? | Spectating BRONZE 

The bastions solo ulting one another the whole game is probably the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. I can imagine how this game played out with the A plot being the tank raging at the supports and the B plot being the bastions feuding.

Come for the Kiriko advice, stay for the Bastion feud of the century.

I love the trinity of Emongg, Flats, and Jay3's spectator commentary. Like, Jay3 will commentate about what he likes about what the bronze is doing, what he doesn't like, etc, without much bias. Emongg will commentate while trying to educate and give helpful tips. Flats will just roast the shit out of them. Not like that's an issue or as if one way of commentary is better than the other, but I like how the three of them expand that spectrum

Extremely funny that almost every time the friendly mercy comes into POV, she's got the Glock out

As a Kiriko in bronze, our teammates usually have “fox avoidance syndrome” which consists in actively avoiding all the kitsunes you use during the game, they might go the same path a 100 times, but the moment you kitsune there, they decide to try new paths!

This kiri was definitely playing like an ana haha 😅. Kiriko has a lot more to lose from playing back than ana, especially with kiri’s projectile travel time being balanced by added survivability.

As a bronze bastion, can confirm that 9/10 times the enemy tank just tries to tank my damage in assault, usually no shield. Ramattra, Rein, Zarya, they all do it. Unless you’re a Sigma or a Dva you’re just gonna die 😭 Also that bastion ult was so funny lmao, based

Hi Kiriko friend! I was once a bronze support player, and I remember playing new to the game, even 6 months in and such. One thing Emongg is really focusing on is that you’re playing too far back, and if you’re anything like I was, you’re playing timidly bc you’re afraid of dying and not adding value from your respawn time. I promise you, you’ll get more value from playing closer and dying every once in a while than playing so far back that your healing isn’t even in range. One thing about kirikos healing is the papers are yellow when they’re within range of healing your target, and blue for when you’re too far and they wont do anything. If you notice they’re blue, get closer! Once again, I know you’re timid and not wanting to die, but that’s what your team is for, your Moira is doing a good job at healing the frontline, and while I’m not saying go frontline, definitely play close back line, or better yet on a cross high ground, so you’ll have an easy escape! Great thing about kiriko is her escapability! You have teleport up every 5-6 secs (can’t remember the exact off the top of my head and too lazy to look it up), when in an opportune time and your tank is pushing, you can teleport to them or better yet walk, and not necessarily push with them, but teleport, or walk, hang back a lil and escape when needed to. And in the rank you’re playing in rn, the enemy team doesn’t know when or really how to punish out of position players so you have more to work with right now to see what works for you! I’ve only really started watching Emongg in the past few months, but one thing he commonly says in bronze games, is don’t play off your cooldowns, don’t be constantly using your abilities. You may be a little hypersensitive towards your cooldowns, not wanting to play off your cooldowns, and knowing the right time to use them. But teleport is one thing you want to use as much as possible in the right moments when you see them. And you may not know the right moments yet, but you’re in bronze, take the time to learn what moments and plays are right for you! I don’t say bronze in terms of derogatory btw, I mean you’re not getting tossed into the deep end into diamond and up and are expected to know everything and anything yet. You’re learning! And as long as you have the willingness and the capacity to learn what works for you, do it! I’m diamond/master, and I’m still learning! That said, your tank was a dumbass 99% of this game. And I’m guessing he’s used to overly aggressive kirikos. Don’t worry about his dumbass, you’re doing ok. So play a lot more forward! Again great thing about kiriko is her survivability and means to escape. A timid way in the back line kiriko does less than a 5-6 deaths kiriko within the fights. (Most of the time, just don’t solely dps w all this power you just got 😂) you’re doing great sweetie!

There was a game where my brother was playing support and I was playing tank, and he got so confused at one moment he was healing the enemy and trying to damage our team 😂

This is my first time watching a spectating bronze by emong and I’m shocked by how nice he is.

This might have been a good way to play Lifeweaver or Ana. Playing cover from farther away and bursting heals when you peek your allies (or they "peek" you). But Kiriko's papers don't bounce off terrain like blossom does. If the target leaves LOS before they get the oncoming heals, the ofuda will home directly at their location, hit the wall, and do nothing. You can't pre-heal in anticipation of allies coming around corners without getting the green "dumb-fire" papers. But the tank needed to learn when not to just be a fatter DPS.

Perfect example of the common support experience. Team overextends and feeds and types "heal diff" in match chat because it's easier to blame your supports instead of trying to see if they could have done something better

that bastion ult was to establish bastion dominance

A few weeks back I was playing Kiri and my tank decided to full send it into the enemy team during OT and died because he got anti'd and I had no Suzu, and the whole rest of the game he blamed me for 'not healing' him so I just said "dude watch the replay I was constantly healing you and you were anti'd" but he kept going on about how I was throwing and not healing even though I had the top heals in the game.

People running away from your kitsune rush happens all the way through gold

Hello Kiriko in the video! One thing I learned when playing in Bronze/Silv as Kiriko is how slllLOOOOW the ofuda travel time can feels, and it's slower when you're playing from too far back. dw I get that you're trying to avoid unnecessarily taking damage, but playing a bit closer and aggressively can help. Get comfy with playing closer to your team and keep an eye out for tp-escape-teammate-target just in case anything goes wrong when playing aggressively.

I love the sub-plot of the bastions having a dual of the fates the entire game

It's not that the Kiri wasn't healing, in fact she was throwing so much paper I'm surprised she ever had to reload kunai. The issue is she's trying to heal from a different time zone lmao. That and well the tank didn't realize that being healed doesn't make you invincible

It's really awesome that Emongg has turned these into mini coaching sessions. He will enjoy watching the gameplay but seems like he can't help giving them advice.

The only advice I would add to what Emongg said is that high ground is a great advantage and it's super easy to get it with Kiri's passive. I only saw the player use her passive a few times and I wasn't sure it was on purpose.

It’s so validating to have a talented tank player take up for the supports. He was fair, and he was honest, and it felt really good to be validated If heals some of the trauma from all the tanks, who yelled at me in the past when I have them as hard as I could.❤

I feel like if they knew that the heals have travel time, then they would play closer

Just in case Pecan reads this, if you like the backline safe support style you may feel confortable playing lifeweaver. His proyectiles travel faster and are easier to land and you may save a teammate here and there with pull. You would just have to become familiar with petal platform and you will be good to go!

Thank you for the bap window advice. It's great to know that giving up and using it for myself is the right play.

I notice they don't use cover either, so that's likely why they play SO far back. Because they don't think to use cover even when playing so far back. I watched so many logs fly past them in the open.

I generally play in silver to plat, and it’s amazing how you can have the highest heals like 8K in QP and still be accused of not healing 😅

When emong said the bronze 5 tank told kiriko she wasn't healing I just knew he was hard W keying into their spawn

+1 to the editor for the bap window.

I love watching these and seeing that they completely ignore how important sound is to tell where they are like there were so many times i could hear the hanzos arrows from the off amgle on the first game

Love the content that focuses on learning how to play. Great vid, thanks Emongg!

I was so mad that the kiriko wasnt using kitsune at all xD

It's not that the Kiriko player isn't healing, it's just real bad positioning on their part. Too passive. The tank on the other hand.. Good grief he's got truly horrible positioning and he's rushing through hallways and behind walls and into the enemy spawn alone..

I think they played Ana longer than Kiriko. I am an Ana main & I made a lot of similar mistakes. Although it's obvious now, at the time I couldn't figure out that Kiriko heals don't travel as fast as Ana.

Look like they should play Ana or Zen if they staying this far back 😅.

11:15 lmaaoooo i can relate to that window window on highnoon is useless, but window on cassady besides that is pretty sick

I think most of this was just by chance honestly, sometimes where kirko tried to heal the tank while he was fighting bastion, everyone else was in the way and they couldn't, and also in the beginning mercy was mostly on the tank so kirko probably didn't feel a strong need to heal him (low priority) and then some times yea they couldve saved the tank but its bronze u live and u learn

The bastions solo ulting duel was so funny lmaooooo.

also, kiriko isnt just a healer, she has her kunais, use them. they do immaculate damage to small support or dps if you hit your shots, what im seeing if that this kiriko is mostly heal botting , and though ur keeping ur team alive, you can also help by using ur kunais to get a squishy ana for example if shes alone or far back in their backline

Love these videos. Thanks emongg!!! 😂

4:53 I WHEEZED BCUZ WE DO THIS EVERYTIME UNLESS THE ENEMY SPAWN'S JUST A METER AWAY LMAOOOO

As a support main, I advise this Kiriko to not be scared to play the game. Try to use your utility more often but when needed so you can be able to get out of sticky situations. Don't healbot, use your kunais when teammates are at full health so you can help with the dmg and maybe get a kill or two. Also as Emongg said, don't play so far back as Kiriko, you need to be more with your team because when they need help on the point and you are in your spawn, you won't be able to help them. Your decision making is also kinda.. I don't know... Random? While I watched the video, I felt like you were thinking to yourself "do I heal, do I dmg, should I suzu here or maybe tp there", don't think so much, in lower ranks you don't need to make big decisions, just play and have fun, you will eventually learn what to do when and what not to do. If you feel more comfortable playing far back tho, I recommend you try Ana or Zen, even tho Zen is harder to stay alive with if you don't have teammates to peel for you. Sorry for my English and sorry for the long rant. Lol

Did they wall climb once? They could play more confidently further forward if they were more confident in being able to escape vertically and also use climb to heal from a position outside the main line of fire.

I love just seing them all just like turning off after that won fight on 2nd point defense.

how much you wanna bet someone told that kiri the worst thing you can do is die so she played as far back as she could to increase her survivability.

Seeing kiriko’s bastion trying to duel the bastion with a mercy pocket is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen

as a bastion main this is how i play when theres an enemy bastion, or when their dps switches to bastion to try and diff me, thats a challenge, that shits real

The biggest problem with tanks in low ranks is that is that they rush in, going out of the support’s line of sight and expect to get heals

The biggest thing about bronze players is just reaction time. Those moments where they know they need to make a play, but their brain just stalls because of all the things happening

8:59 Bastion dominance 🤣

Had to check one of those bastions wasnt me a for a sec, whenever i see another bastion i have to assert dominance, it’s on sight and war commences

To play just to play sure you can use any character you want but to play to win no your team comp is so important because this seasons team matching is atrocious and you’ll be forced to pick the character that you didn’t want to play but you have to play to pick up the slack of your team and even then it still may not be enough.

It was really painful watching their team not use Kiriko's Kitsune 😐

Kiriko’s bastion: *solo ults enemy bastion* Enemy bastion: So you have chosen death… But in all seriousness, going off of what you said, 70-80% of that was the tank’s fault for making stupid plays.

i wonder if the player struggles with awareness. Might be playing really far back because it gives them the big picture of what's going on but in reality they need to be closer up while also being aware of who is around them and their health.

This reminds me of some other teamate that was feeding the enemy spawn and complained he got no healing from support.

Why is no one talking about the absolute heal bot, like how you play like that

The kiriko presses S more the W, its kind of irritating lol

I think that Kirk needs to turn his sensitivity up a bit. He can’t even keep up with his own teammates movements.

notice that an issue i have is i play on gm tips and have lowest deaths as any role but my team doesnt play like that. i guess thats why im not going up. my question is how to climb when dealing with this nonsense? its on every role and every game and its more infurating that my last 30 games, the average rank was 5 ranks below my rank EVERY SINGLE GAME. except one. i do not have the ability to carry under-performers. why am i being judged on that. if i could get games above my rank. i could defensively play my way up, but the fact that these teammates get you to expose yourself. its pretty bad

if people saw my kiri gameplay it would be so humiliating i stay missing suzu AND kunai

I don't think the issue is healing, more use of the kuni and keeping closer with the team would be helpful. Healing looked pretty good

Last night I had a game where one rando support would hardly heal. They healed more on zen than they did on baptiste because he was just being a dps. Zen can work if played right, but this guy was playing zen like widow. Sitting in our extreme backline and sometimes throwing his heal orb on me. But when he switched to bap he literally did nothing but damage and made a window for him and him alone. And despite doing nothing but damage, he got like, two kills by the end of the game. THATS what throwing looks like as support. Thankfully this was just in quick play. I would have reported him if it was comp

Got Accused by of NOT Healing? my response in OW2 would be, "stats don't lie"

As someone who plays a lot of Ram the best way to deal with bastion in my opinion is shield, weaken with staff, then Nemesis form and punch him.

I swear to god this Kiriko’s left hand is going “WSWSWSWSW” the entire game and it’s starting to piss me off. Your entire team is pushing and you’re strafing forward and backwards away from the cart for some reason??? Like why????

Bro I’ve played with pecan. He is a bronze? He was in a gold lobby. I’m a bronze 5 console player btw. My brother was gold 1 and on pc.

1:18 Classic support situation of a Tank complaining about heals 😂

16:50 - Did the sig just swap to Orisa to counter the Zarya...

When I play Kiriko I like to play back too. It gives me more distance from a flanker if I get jumped, because if I'm already on my team's heels, where am I going to go? And yeah the heals take longer to travel, but if you are mostly heal botting I feel it doesn't matter so much because they have a constant stream of heals either way. The slow heal travel speed is balanced by all the times they took damage and heals were already on the way and they got healed back up almost instantly.

My man didn't wall climb once during the whole match. I don't think he even knows he have it

That Ram is basically every Rein play with

yeah i learned to use bap ult for me when i play bap. no one uses it, so screw it ill take advantage of it. i swear people think its a curse or something

Accused of not healing 😳 she's a f heal BOT!!!! As a kiriko main this is PAIN

and this is much better than spending half the video playing with a bingo card lol

This is 50% of my support games. The tank having no clue what to counter with and going where they shouldn’t. Then they get mad, go dva , then fly to high ground and wave hello to the enemy.

let's look at the facts in their defenses if they not healing. 1. Healers are easy pray for flankers (since you know 5v5 means no tank to cover the support) 2. Most healers used for supporting DPS damage 3. Support is the only one that doesn't take hours to find a game. (Overall I don't judge healers who go full DPS mode and stop healing because blizzard made it clear you have hate playing support) (I used be support but swap to 5v5 made it so I cannot enjoy being support anymore)

Personal opinion from my own Kiriko experience is Kiriko is meant for rushing. Stay up front with your team. Swift step is an escape or to heal a critical teammate using suzu. Wall climbing also a good escape. Don’t always DPS after Kitsune Rush. I personally play Kiriko pretty aggressively and tend to be pretty decent with both damage and healing. But everyone has there own play style so play her how you’d like :)

Everytime I play as kiriko my team forgets I need line of sight to give heals.

I had a tank last night (plat) and at 1:22, that's what my tank did ALL GAME. Just rushed in 1v5 and then claimed healer diff at the end haha too funny bro

10:03 as someone that plays Kiriko, this is a mood, happens EVERY time it feels like.

Great video, Bingo is fun on stream but this works way better on RU-vid, thanks emongg

Main takeaway for Mr bronze, don't be afraid to be more aggressive but over time you'll learn the timing when you should be

Literally get accused of not healing almost every time I play support. Just because I cannot save someone standing right in 4 enemies. Like give us a break 💀

I once played Kiriko and got flamed for not having kills on here. You can't make this up sometimes. The Overwatch community doesn't know what it want sometimes.

I think that Ramattra wanted to join the other team at this point

man i wanna play the new bronze game mode of 4v4 + 1v1

day in the life as a support main: someone like this ram always bitching about not getting healed 😭

Idk man, I definitely feel like this Kiriko healed, like that's all they did. Kind of funny.

I will say yes the tank was horrendous with his team the kiriko wasn’t even trying to damage people kiriko has a insane damage potential and she’s just wasting it and she wasn’t using High ground either her whole team wasn’t so it’s everyone’s fault on that team only people doing something in kirikos team were like bastion and Moira

With the character question choose anybody but sombra

13:25 bro is healing from spawn

overwatch is all about whos ego am i going to hurt today

the insane healbotting and passiveness hurts to watch like you have the potential to 2 tap a squishy and turn fights but nope just sitting behind your team and letting them do everything.. where are the off angles and flanks lmao this person definitely deserves bronze 5

They’re complaining about Kiri not healing, I just watched the first fight and I think they have the opposite issue. Not attacking.

guy is playing as if he's ana but without the heal output or nade

i play kiriko and i get more heals than kills but you have to deal some damage

I definitely use my Bap window for myself.

This was so painful to watch haha

Rein main here. One thing I hate is when I choose rein and one of my supports chooses zen or Lucio I just know imma die every team fight

See I love these tips, so I was playing this map yesterday and it was my last one before I get my first ever rank and I got gold 4 since the pink mercy was awesome and my whole team came to the win even if the other team was better