It's not about the money, like he said, he has endless trunks of it. It's the fact that he lost to a school teacher that he couldn't come to terms with lmao
The fact that they understood that that is life changing money for him and has no Ill will towards him folding was absolutely commendable. Respect to the poker stars
@@luigiff3431He wasn’t out bro. It’s a cash game so he can rebuy in as much as he wants & knowing his rich bratty ass? I’m beyond sure he’d have re-bought in for more money if in fact he lost all of his stacks in that 1 hand vs the math teacher. I think OP is kinda spot on 75% & also I think Perkins was still tryin to dig in a lil towards Phil 25% lol
@@berekexer8158 To be fair to hellmuth, Perkins broke the unwritten rule of poker. You dont say shit like "good reads tho" to the loser when its not your cards being played. You should be quiet. The winner can say that shit, not the guy who folds.
@@arthurhouston5685 too many ppl don't isolate with it & think they can beat multiple ppl drawing. But then if u do u get the problem where they all just fold & u make very little off it 😂
@@jasonandrus12 Exactly why he did it. Pocket rockets are the best preflop starting hand against any particular player, but against multiple players it's more likely than not to get drawn out by somebody. Bet aces aggressively preflop to isolate.
I don't even play Poker, but between Perkins putting Helmuth in his place and the amazing AA fold, and the beautiful phone call at the end, this might be my favorite RU-vid video of all time.
Not that hard of a guess in this case. Only reason to go all in is a bluff or nuts. Only cards that provide nuts are KQ. If they are clubs that means he's flopped a flush draw as well so more likely to see the river. But yeah, top level pros are really good at figuring what you likely have based on how you played your hand.
I don’t think I’ve ever been happier to see someone win. What a nice man. I still can’t believe he folded aces pre flop and quad sixes won. He trusted his gut.
Bro this moment in poker history is awesome, i love when people who struggle all day everyday gets blessed in ways like this, they deserv it so much! That call back home after the win was so wholesome. Dude got my respect!
Fishman was an even better math professor! First day of class he’d make everyone write their name on a playing card and while lecturing he’d occasionally stop and pull a card, if it had your name you had to answer the question. Made me pay attention haha! Really cool, down to earth dude.
It's actually a world famous pedagogical trick (teacher from Sweden here) - Dylan Williams was the origin for that. I do the same for my students... They always think the deck is rigged. (Sorry for the comment being of topic)
Yes I know we’ve all seen it 100 times but come on, a school teacher comes on and gets max value from Phil hellmuth and folds aces pre flop and then laak hits quads. Pretty entertaining
@@bluedonkey180 It's a great play if you want to have a literal 0% chance of losing more than the blinds for the rest of the event, which is exactly what the LC wanted at that point. In the words of Perkins: "He's. A. Schoolteacher." And he has life-changing money in front of him. I completely respect him not wanting to risk it at that point.
@@bluedonkey180 I think the point he’s making is that it’s good tv. Lol these $1/2NL players coming on here to talk strategy. Stfu and go back to your zynga poker play money account.
Gosh. I love watching David Fishman's episode. It's such a feel good video. He wins a great amount of money and deserves it. He's a humble, likeable guy. And in terms of content, laying down Pocket Aces Pre-Flop. ALSO goes down as a legendary moment
Took his class at ASU the year that he was on this. Couldn't tell the class until it aired. One of the smartest and inspiring individuals I met in college. He survived bone cancer and had a metal rod in his leg and still ran marathons. Definition of humility.
@@ThouArtOfWar0724 The original commenter talked about how they respected him and were empathetic. They did have a choice. they could have been rude or annoyed or told him he was being pathetic or whatever. They didnt. They have no choice but to ACCEPT he did that, but thats not what op said.
Such a great story... not sure how many people would have decided to fold massive hands like that... the composure in such a spotlight is really awesome.
18:10 You can tell as soon as he realized the other guys were reading his exact reaction he just bailed. Just had a gut reaction and laid it down. And it ended up saving him!
I've done that very thing in online games more than once. But I would never do it sitting at a live table. I do it because of the algorithms used in online cards. It pays off more often than not
Every once and a while the universe aligns and focuses a beam of energy on the right guy. Phil hellmuth getting his mojo tilted was just icing on the cake. The greatest part is Fishman could see how special this was. He didn't gloat, he showed genuine gratitude for what happened.
@@Dan-fj5zp If by "garbage" you mean there is some degree of luck involved in both, then yes. Other than using mathematical probability to improve your odds of winning, they have little in common in terms of game theory and strategy. Poker has little to do with garbage luck. it's a psychological game. There is a reason the same group of pros always end up at the final table, and that's due to their demonstrated skill, not their luck. There's also a reason I've taken more money from the house playing black jack with a 4 deck shoot than the house has taken from me. With a little math and empirical observation, "luck" is always on your side.
The last bit where he’s folding great hands because he’s just realized what he’s won… big respect to the guy for playing that Oscar winning hand and all the best in the future.
@@since1876 that’s an awesome story and such a great way to look at your win. Mature guy now, but wish I’d learned that lesson earlier. I’ve made and lost and made it back again in life… the first time around I was 22… the second time around 35… it took me 13 years and a lot of pain to get it back and learn humility… Right now I’m banking a lot of what I made in the last 2-3yrs (investments) and friends are going all in while calling me crazy… I just tell them “I lost everything in ‘08, and this feels like ‘08 again… I’m happy to come out on top and wait for things to calm down”. Nobody ever lost money taking profit early.
@@ChrisM-qo1jc good luck man! Never take more than you can lose and don't chase your loses. If you're playing something other than poker, the casino is always going to beat you. You stand a chance on Texas Hold'em but better be dayum good! Wishing the best to you
@@josephedlin2172 depends on the profit amount and inflation. If the bank paid you 3% this year, you would till be losing 5% with inflation, maybe more
My eternal respect to Perkins for saying it like it is, staying real, staying human and respecting the one guy at that table who's entire future depends on these few hours Obviously, even more eternal respect to Mr. Fishman
You think $129,000 pre tax is gonna affect an ASU professors entire future…. Hahaha I mean I’m sure the $80k or so will be nice but it isn’t going to change his entire future like he’s a bum making minimum wage.
@@magicmillhouse9586 Hard disagree. I worked my way up to 40k and that changed my life drastically. Once you have enough that you can spare some for decent investments, your life is set up to be changed forever. $80k after tax can lead to millionaire status if spent properly.
@@magicmillhouse9586 You act like 129k can't buy your way to success.. Almost as if a child was imagining what to spend his $129,000 on at the toy store rather than investing. You got the wrong perspective on money, my friend. You're stuck in your consumer thoughts.
@@magicmillhouse9586 If you have 80 grand just dumped into your bank account that you can invest it can be life changing. Enough money to start a business not life changing? Enough money to take years off work and go to school?
The moment where the Business man is yelling too Hellmuth "...endless trunks of money!" is priceless. Laak is just laughing and Hellmuth is just pissed: epic poker moment.
@@markcab2055 Because when Phil wins, its because he's the best poker player in the history of the world, and when he loses, its because the dealer is screwing him with bad cards or because the other players don't play exactly how he wants them to. Biggest crybaby in poker.
@@JBHipple Exactly. PH literally thinks he should win every time and if it doesn't happen it's someone else's fault. Even after deducing the guy likely had him beat with KQ.
This is actually a monumental piece of television... The story and characters and even their conflict, all top notch. You couldn't write it better. Then the guy actually got dealt AA and KK... The call at then, the lessons learned... Beautiful.
Why did he fold them though I feel like I’m missing something. Does he somehow know what the other guys are holding? What possible reason is there to fold the best possible hold cards?
17:18 - 17:43 Never loved Perkins more than this speech. Nothing against Phil ... but ..."he's a school teacher, and you have endless TRUNKS of money!"
No, everything against Phil. He’s right. A school teacher comes in and makes a life changing amount of money playing poker and Phil (net worth of $20 million) has the audacity it bitch about it like he’s gonna go bankrupt from it. An absolutely spoiled brat is what Hellmuth is.
@Jack Caserta Well, he wasn't yelling it due to it being a step-down in job quality or anything, he was emphasizing it because of the disparaging salary difference between Fishman and Hellmuth. There's no way any school teacher in the world would be making anywhere near the amount the top poker players in the world are making with their 'loads of money.' That's the meaning behind the emphasis of "He's a school teacher."
@Jack Caserta its not, hes pointing out that the 86k he just won is fucking insane, because teachers make about 50k a year, he just made and entire year and half worth of salary in one hand, meanwhile hellmuth is a multimillionaire, 86k is pennies on the dollar, he can piss that away and nothing would change for him
I'd say this is the most amazing hero fold in poker history. Most of the hundreds, thousands of super plays by professionals will be forgotten in a long period of time, but this will be remembered as a legendary lesson to all who plays poker as a gambling.
Bring back The Big Game! The formula was simple but amazing: get the most entertaining pros and introduce an amateur in the mix to spice up the action and give the folks at home somebody to root for.
never seen much of Perkins before but after this he's definitely a favorite. What a class act, he was so nice to the cannon and even defended him against Phil. a total stand up guy who seemed to be genuinely having fun the whole time
Perkins didn’t do anything wrong, Hellmuth’s read was perfect. That said, it’s very surprising he called it to a loose cannon after putting him on his exact hand. Great for Fishman. Also, having the discipline to fold AA and KK after getting where he needed to be is crazy. The devil was tempting him hard.
@@okiejohn3925 he should have shoved the aces and kings pre, that way he's happy with a call or fold instead of trying to squeeze out max value against much better postflop players
@@bluedonkey180 yes, theoretically thats correct. But there is a reason we can approach this theoretically; we do not have life changing money at stake. He does. One wrong call, even though it’s theoretically correct, and there goes your profit. He didn’t want to take the risk, not even a ~75% chance, because that’s still 25% of runouts that make you lose money.
not only did he outplay some great players, but once he got to the right number, he was able to keep it and resist great hands while still at the table because he knew the money he had was enough to change his life. That dude's a very rare individual, props.
@@ryanith2 Just because he OWNS a house worth so much doesn’t mean that he’s flush with cash. For all we know, he could be on the verge of not being to make his next home mortgage payment!
@@iwannaseenow1 how was it degrading, it was a stab at Phil to humble himself. Cause he didn't seem to understand, or care. He does that when he loses a hand always, so it's kinda the norm, but he really does lack humility and believes everyone is a joke that calls him.
It's rare to see a situation where someone gets a windfall in hand and makes the conscious decision to take it and walk away with it. I'm very happy for Mr. Fishman and this is instantly one of my favorite videos.
Throwing away those aces was so crazy in the best way possible. Dude more than doubled his money already, and knew that even with a golden opportunity he still didn't want to risk it.
I've always said, "in certain spots it's actually good to fold pocket Aces preflop". This situation is THAT situation. When you're in a tourney and you'd rather gamble on flops and not the chance of getting sucked out doing something drastic preflop.
No it’s not. The spot to fold AA pre is in a satellite when all winners get same and multiple ppl all in. Here he should just rip it all in and then turn over his cards so nobody calls (if he didn’t wanna risk taking a flop)
He's good at not letting people know what's going on in his head. He plays stupid when he's smart and strong when weak, weak when strong, they give him two choices and he does a lateral. Sun Tzu would be proud.
@@daltooinewestwood6380 The thing is, i would ve thought he is intentinally overselling it and shaking his hands and stuff to make me think that he is intentionally doing it to hide his bad hand lol. I would mind fuck myself
@@andyshaw8870 Laak would never call with a small pocket pair lol. In fact he'd certainly put him on exactly AA knowing he wouldn't even shove KK in that spot
@@cial67 Laak at that point knew he was playing tight but he didn’t know how tight. Also, there’s the possibility that fishman would use that perspective on him to his advantage. So if Laak had kings queens or AK, in that situation. Who knows what he would’ve called. By your logic. He could’ve shoved the next 8 hands and won them all because everyone else would’ve just asssumed he had pocket aces each time? ??? It’s the poker table. Anything can happen at any time. Games on.
Lol, if you play for fake money, that's because its rigged, they give you pocket aces so you raise big, then there is always a straight. You're out of chips and you repurchase. Rince and repeat. Fake money poker is not remotely like real poker.
@@rileypearson8697 You can't count cards in a poker game. The deck is shuffled between every hand. All you can know is the cards that have been shown and yours
I was not aware that in this kind of game you could just cash in your chips and bug out. Folding pocket aces preflop makes more sense now. Lovely to see how much the money means to him and his family and I wish him all the best.
the only case in which he did the right thing is if he was in way over his depth and couldnt afford to lose, which brings into question his prior bets. aces there was a positive bet for him as long as he could take the variance of outcomes, and if he coudlnt afford the variance of outcomes then why was he making far more reckless bets earlier? guy had no business being there with that mentality and made a terrible decision probabilistically
@@cv9672 Can you at least bother to look up what the show is before spouting nonsense off? In this show, the random person is staked $100k vs 5 pros who supply their own money. They only get to keep the propfits, aka everything above $100k, but 100k and below they have nothing to lose. The CORRECT play for someone who can't afford to play high stakes poker on their own is to do EXACTLY what Fisherman did. It's why someone with a 100k bankroll doesn't sit at those tables-- because if variance fucks you, you can't do anything about it.
I love that they call this guy the loose cannon and he makes several clutch folds, wins full value from a steaming helmuth and then folds pocket aces followed by pocket kings in one of the most unpredictable shows of restraint I've ever seen in poker.
One of the worst, most amateur acting jobs I have ever seen with the straight against Hellmuth. Just awful, and Hellmuth was dumb enough to fall for it.
@@MrJamberee "Hellmuth was dumb enough to fall for it." how you know why he fold it? can you read minds watching youtube clips? you dont think helmuth knows who this guy is? i know, sorry, probably too many question at once for you. btw. helmuth is one of the best actors in pro poker, just sayin.!
@@MrJamberee It felt like a pretty classic "shrug bet" to me, but it's a lot easier to make that call with the benefit of perfect knowledge. Besides at a high level you can easily second guess that as deliberately attempting to feign a common tell knowing that an advanced player would pick it up, a la the goblet duel in the Princess Bride.
That is not restraint, that is called being a bad poker player. I suppose it could be seen as restraint in terms of he is aware he is a bad player and knows he does not know how to play pocket AA or pocket KK. I didn't see the Kings( his play was just too terrible to keep watching) so idk the situation but the AA fold was just flat out bad. His goal should be to get all his chips in the middle with a call from 1 person. That is always your goal with AA preflop if anyone else is acting aggressive. You are currently winning and getting the most chips in when you are CURRENTLY winning is all that matters in poker. Tournament structure changes that slightly but its extremely slightly. Hos fold was a shitty fold and acting like it was a good move is equal to someone pushing all in with 7 2 offset against AA and sucking out for the win. Its a bad play regardless if you won that single hand because single hands are meaningless. A mathematician should by all means know all this as its trivial poker theory so it stands to reason he is just a bad player, likely due to fear. He folded AA because he was early and simply does not know how to play it. Preflop folding AA is NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WVWR the right move lol.. ever!
He made an smart decission. When he realized folding all hands would make him win a life changing amount of money, he was mentally strong enough to really fold everything regardless of how strong was his hand preflop.
His ability to walk away from the cards he was getting and just stunning, far more then his general play. There are not a lot of people that could do that.
He bluffed his way through the game to win big time. The fact that he stopped when he did tells people he did it for his family. All my respect, Fishman.
I've lost a number of times on pocket Aces...I'll usually stay in with pocket Aces (or any pocket pair for that matter) until I see a flop, then go from there. Fishman's style is similar to my own, chaotic at times, and I choose which hands to play not only by odds but based on what's happening with the pot, among other factors too numerous to mention. No matter how you slice it, success in poker is still largely dependent on luck...enjoy watching him play.
It was because of shows like this i got into poker. I liked the atmosphere between the players. tensions, but well mannered in the end, and the really high stakes. Its unique if you ask me
Noone gonna talk about how a guy called fish-man actually beat all the sharks? :D Superstoked for the guy! Amazing, and i love how he threw those Aces and Kings... Definitely a guy i'd like to see more of!
I'd definitely had played that Ace Pairs and King Pairs. Though the Ace pair would probably tilt me so hard and that's why he's there and I'm here. Well played Mr. Math Teacher. Well played. That ending was so wholesome.