This Melee Player Redefined Sheik 

Hey guys - there's one other reason I voiced this video that I didn't say. This is the final vid I'm writing for PGStats! So this is my song swan of sorts. Just wanted to say thank you all for supporting and growing the channel - it's been so fun to help build it. Plenty of other good stuff in the pipeline, including some videos I contributed to - hope you enjoy them :)

I'm not a huge Melee watcher, but even _I_ could see just how cracked Jmook is. His tech chasing prowess is so immediately obvious and defining of his playstyle. This video really excellently lays out just how crazy Jmook played at Genesis in a way that is easy to understand. Props.

it reminds me of how wizzy refined falcon

Jmook put the absolute fear of death in every fast-faller he played with just one grab. Awesome player and excellent video!

Atrioc and Aiden absolutely losing their shit in the crowd was so fucking funny lmao

Holy shit! I used to play with Jmook at friendlies like 6 years ago. Nice to see him doing well

Amazing video, Jmook inspired me to not just start playing Sheik, but Melee as a whole. I never had a real appreciation for playing the game myself until I watched Jmook play and decided to pick up Sheik. Can't wait to see him kick even more ass and chase even more techs

0:57 THE best Sheik vs Fox stock I've seen in life

As a 20-year sheik main this is my dream video. Thank you.

I have never been more motivated to get good at melee than after watching jmook’s run

Finally the melee video!! Hope this pops off, jmook is a LEGEND

Great video! I love this deeper analytical style. Much better than those top 8 recap videos where the narrator just describes the set count without talking about the actual gameplay.

Yeah this was my first melee top eight watching ever, but this might be my favorite pgstats video. So well written and structured into this great, coherent narrative. Well done!!

Amazing analysis, and glad that you got the chance to interview. Counter hit grab is a bit confusing term because in fgc, counter hits mean a completely different thing. CC grab could be more accurate and easier to understand.

This is one of the best videos you guys have ever made, well done! Makes me want to play Sheik now lol

This is actually such a good video. Very digestible and entertaining for the average player to watch, while also giving something for those more experienced players. The moment where you mentioned Jmook crouch canceling, Plup's adaptation, and then Jmook's adaptation to that was just such a dope moment - and while watching the set live, I didn't even realize the players were making those specific changes in real time. Melee is so sick lol

Holy shit this is one of the best melee analyzations i've ever seen. So impressive

Was wondering when a Melee video for Genesis 8 was gonna come out! Good to see it here!

love all the stats - amazing work on this one!

Jmook's shiek gives me the impression that he has had all the time to go over his options and think about his next move. Despite all the "cracked" shit he does, he strikes as a really calm and compossed player that keeps his options in deck and executes them when appropiate. Like, he's never thinking ahead too much nor is does he fixate on forcing something. His "frefresh rate" so to speak is.. cracked? yeah i think that sounds accurate

I don't even play Melee but I found this super interesting lol

Great video! Been wondering about some of these stats on Jmook’s run since it happened. I will just say two things 1) Some of Jmook’s lower DIPM comes from always opting for rtc-ing, which means his punishes take way more time and he has a very low DIPM throughout that time (esp since IBDW starts always missing tech and waiting, during which Jmook is clocking in 0 DIPM for seconds at a time). Unsure how big a part that plays and maybe that’s a part of what you mean when you say his play is more “precise” but it seems worth mentioning and isn’t obviously implied. 2) With regard to grab success rate, it feels like a pretty hefty statistical thumb on the scale to compare two sets where Jmook won to two where Plup lost (incl. 6-2 vs 3-6 game counts). Grab success rate is obviously causally related to win rate, and both are downstream from factors like hitting tech/movement or having a read on opponent’s movement. I tried confirming this in Plup’s two wins vs IBDW at Summit 11 and LACS 4, and Plup’s grab success rate was 27/41 or 65.9% across 6 sheik games, 16% higher than his own and 5% higher than Jmook’s from the video. All those 6 games went to Plup (but the fact that that might matter is the point), none were on FD (unsure of impact), and the LACS games were on netplay (though the grab rate was actually higher at 70.6% in just the offline games) - take all that as you will. Comparing one’s losses to another’s wins can still yield valid conclusions (Plup still made waaaaay fewer grab attempts, as you’d expect), but the video is ostensibly about playstyle/decisionmaking differences and I’d say something like “how each player is getting wins” better approximates conclusions regarding playstyle than “what happens in sets sheik wins versus sets she loses”. Anyway, still love the vid, hope the unsolicited paragraphs aren’t a bother, and I know y’all are trying to do the best you can with very limited data. Love to see more!

I don’t watch melee and no nothing about the technicalities of the game, but this video was so easy to follow and understand! Great video!

Even if I don’t follow Melee as much as Ultimate it’s still so cool to see an analysis like this, because seeing how meta is able to continue evolving after all these years is just so cool

Wonderful analysis! I understand Jmook's strengths now! Just repeating what you said. He loves to use grab as his way to punish and kill because he is so good at down throw tech chasing. He has a neutral and defense game tailored to set up those grabs. He creates many grabs off of defense (crouch canceling, uptilting to stuff fox approach). Then once the fox chooses to stop approaching he knows their gonna keep distance and throws a boost grab where they will be. Smart and effective! Now, how does he play other match-ups like Peach?

Amazingly concise and focused video, absolutely fantastic

This was an incredibly well made video. Amazing use of the data to tell a story. As someone working in data the marriage of stats and smash is just beautiful. Are these datasets used publicly available?

Thank you for the hard work you put into this video

Love the video, and a great run from Jmook

Please make more melee content this is amazing!

Phenomenal video! The analysis was really in depth and well-supported by the clips and statistics, and shoutout to the X-Naut Fortress BGM at one point. I too am one of the Sheiks that struggles with Fox and to watch Jmook change the game live in person was a truly incredible experience. I really can't wait to see where the matchup goes from here.

I was hoping to see aiden in the jmook shirt after seeing it on The Yard. Was not disappointed

Jmook content, you love to see it

Jmook era best era of melee so far

Gotta love it when one player caughtens onto the other's tricks (13:54)

I did not expect hbox to have the highest inputs per minute

jmook is easily my new fave sheik to watch after genesis 8 :D he's not as flashy as plup's sheik but he has insane efficiency and amazing needle play

and now the genesis 9 champion... incredible player and so fun to watch

Great analysis!

1:32 "he doesn't have a losing record against a single one" I SEE ONE LOSING RECORD THERE :) but also sick vid, Jmook is a legend. EDIT: CC IS GOOD AHH

Gotta love how melee gets a statistical analysis that is so in depth, correctly interpreted, and well explained. While "professional" stats referenced for headlines can't even hold a candle. I'd rather spend my time watching these than television any day.

It was really fun watching Jmook. It felt like a long while since we got a good Sheik player. We've had a lot of good melee players that pick Sheik, but no one in the high ranks that seemed to be Sheik that is good at being Sheik.

Watching him live was crazy. Never expected him to reach so far.

As a Wobbles fan, I’m gonna need to see jmook do this again

This analysis is insane

I said to my brother when we were watching Jmook that he looks like M2Ks Sheik + modern RTC game. M2K basically invented this strategy, but believed it was unviable long term, citing: RTC being too inconsistent, Sheiks lack of dash dance making her approach linear (you point out the hail mary boost grab), and lack of UCF/goomwave in his era making certain tech options essentially RNG based to cover. Now M2K may have been wrong about RTC, but some Sheiks like Spark have said there is counterplay that makes RTC much more difficult for Sheiks that is currently underutilized so we will see if long term, and obviously UCF/goomwave pretty much fix the mechanical issues this playstyle previously had. But the most interesting part will be to see how Jmook deals with with his neutral becoming more linear and risky if he is forced to continually go for boost grabs against more defensive opponents aware of his grab heavy gameplan. M2K thought only Plups style could answer this problem without heavy gambling, but maybe Jmook has another answer.

Insane data man!!!

Sheik is like a well made tool. Does what she does well and reliable.

these videos are quality 🤝

So surprised to see Big A mentioned in this video, also it’s cool that atrioc is there next to him i guess

and now he won G9

Hope everyone remembers how much ibdw gets frustrated from getting tech chases. His brain broke when zain did it to him

I love the term j walk

4:46 I don't know who this is, but "Rosamund Spike" absolutely is the greatest gamer tag I've ever heard

Jmook is a theoretical Borp with tech.

That sick edge guard😊

Anyone know what the ending song starting around 18:00 is?

Lets go Jmook!

god bless jmook

So when is PG signing JMook?

I love needing out about melee

My friends in 2002: Stop grabbing noob The best Sheik in 2022: 158 grabs in 8 games

I wonder what happens if Rayan Isran played Melee?

Sheeeesh, how did y’all collect all this data?!?!

made me play sheik

incredible video

Are we really not putting FizzWiggle in this!

1:53 Looks like IBDW has a losing record vs. Junebug though?

sheik been good yall flavor of the month af

Was that a melee two frame?

wow what a cool video made by such a cool and smart person

SHEIK’S TAKING BACK THAT #1 SPOT AFTER 20 YEARS LESGOOOO

Patrick Bateman voice : "Lets see Borp's dipm."

what's the song at 1:18 ?

idc what anyone says walking like that is the crush

great vid

Jmook seems to have a differnet idea of sheik itself and therefore what it’s worth to invest his skill in too- partly bc of skills maybe Mersey but I’m not shre

i don't know about anyone else but jmook always looked patient and strategic, idk why you are talking like nobody could tell and we needed the stats to find out

Jmook the best sheik fr

Jmook is like the Pragg of Chess. The new kid that holds against Magnus Carlsen a bit. In this case, Zain.

i bet he plays other fighting games, he plays smash like a traditional fighter.

i hear skullgirls music in so many youtube videos oml

TECHNICALLY iBDW does have a losing record to Junebug hehe.

im mooking im jooking

Slippi?

🎆🐙🎇 jmook

JMook reminds me of younger M2K where their reaction time is so much better.

sick

Remember the Sheik that used literally no tech skill and actually did decently?

tech chase limit coming 2035

10:14 Taking a sniff?

How exactly did he redefine it? Lol

after conquering sheik's toughest matchup, he must now deal with her easiest

Jmook is just Borp with tech skill😂

10:14

Sheiks worst MU is Puff iirc, not Fox. Doesn't make this run any less impressive though.

Hi

every melee content video just takes a poopy on plup. rip

he may be good, but he'll never be no tech god Blorp

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