This Mission Is AMAZING! - Reversed StarCraft 1! - Pt 6 

How can you be sure that mission 6 doesn't have any dark templar? Every square of the map that you don't currently have detection on is filled with densely-packed dark templar at all times.

In mission 7 Zaasz didn't die; the Overmind basically threw him into a battle royale arena so the surviving gigachad Zaasz brood will lay waste on everything.

The reason purple didn’t die when you killed all of its hatcheries is because purple isn’t a renegade swarm, purple was kerrigans brood

that first mission intro reminds me about how tassadar is dead, but kerrigan lives into SC2 so she can be turned human again and turned back in to a zerg, but its fine because it was necessary for defeating the reapers.

I agree that mission 7 is insanely cool!! Very cool from a lore perspective to be in a free for all! Way more fun (and probably more balanced) than playing all the non-brood Zerg and just rushing them or at least being allied with them.

Scenario 4 and scenario 6 "The Dark Templar", not to be confused with a missing scenario 5 "The Slightly Brighter Dark Templar"? Edit: Grant happy about a 8 player skirmish/custom offline AI match was actually wholesome to me (with built bases of courses) as it was the only thing I played on SC1 as a kid after the campaign. It actually would be fun to see a match with nightmare-esque AI and dark archons worker stealing from Grant, despite how much SC1 bores me nowadays due to the small unit selection size.

1:00 never realized before how funny Tassadar's talk about Human Kerrigan is, considering the only time they met before when Kerrigan literally defended the Zerg from the Protoss just for basically political/civil war reasons.

When I did this mission I took all the bases except for blue which purple took. I then just tried to bash my way in the front instead of your strat of taking out production. Purple created several maxed out armies of hydras, and while Muta/Ling is good against Hydras, I could just couldn't catch up with his production. Eventually, after trading out a few 100 supply armies, I created two full groups of guardians and made 5 hatches outside his base and forced my way in. My stats showed 846 killed 373 lost and purple had 380 killed 657 lost.

Duran for sure isnt lore accurate haha, they probably just didnt have any other voiceline they couldve used. Duran was likely still hanging out with the confederate remnants at this time.

27:46 you checked an overlord and saw it had 8 lings, then you grabbed an different (empty) overlord, sent it away (still empty), checked the first overlord again and said " This must be full as well, perfect" , haha. You unload 'all' at 28:28

ultras are actually the ultimate unit in zvz... if you combine them with defiler and hydra to get rid of mutas. of course, most zvz games end within 8 minutes via shanking, so it is rare to see. last asl had a bunch of late game zvz though, if you are interested!

As soon as I saw the ZvZvZvZvZvZvZvZ mission I already knew it was gonna devolve into ling muta. No shade on grant's initial plan to go guardian and macro it up, but ZvZ in SC1 is *already* a degenerate "don't bother building drones, just micro your mutas/scourge/zerglings better than the oponent". Zerglings and Mutas just melt everything else you *could* go, and it's not even close. Your ultralisks are too expensive. Your hydras die to lings way too quickly. Guardians can't hit air. Defilers don't do anything vs zerglings. And scourge, while cost efficient vs Mutas, are kind of micro intensive at that level of play.

G learned to fear the kerri

sending drones to fight an ultralisk ^^

They built ultras to counter your zerglings 😂😂

Thanks for the fun reversal! ^^

4 kills...all ultralisks 😂

Tassadar is "the dark templar."

Mass Muta is OP against the AI in SC1

but it's reverse starcraft so this mission DOES have dark templars

I have a strange Mandela effect where i remember playing this game as a kid and his name was Tassandar, maybe i'm just crazy.

I actually disliked the second mission, i was ready for grand getting overwhelmed by an macro intense mission with an abundance of bases. The renegade Zerg getting butchered into 7 different players what not at all what i expected and had liked. Glad you liked it and had fun :)

I know purple zerg is canon zerg, but boy does red look good.

Grant still being concerned his building placement interfering with the dragoon pathfinding is so funny. I have long since just accepted that if the building is anywhere on the map, it will somehow block a dragoon at some point. The dragoon does not need to be anywhere close to the building for that to happen.

29:09 'i cant tell you who it is' when looking at the dead zerg buildings he JUST finished cleaning up

On the zerg mission if you kill all Hatcheries/Lairs/Hives it neutralizes that zerg. You can see it when you kill Teal the spore colony stops attacking you. Also when you see the message about a zerg being neutralize the color of the text is the color that was destroyed.

lmao, Grant being blind to hatcheries at 28:00 Renegade Zerg destroyed. "I don't have perfect information, it could be anyone" *as he steps over the destroyed structures of orange to claim his expansion*

@14:25 "these dragoons have finally figured how to show up" Half the dragoons promptly leave 😅

I love how the writing of both Kerrigan and Zasz flag the fact that Tassadar's attack was a diversion (he seems weak / something strange about that templar). It's the type of more understated flagging that just doesn't happen in modern writing, where either NOTHING gets flagged or you just get told everything obviously ahead of time. It's not like it's some masterclass of writing, but it still just feels like it respects the intelligence of the reader in a way modern writing far too often does not.

grant: wipes out orange zerg game: regenade zerg has been killed grant: wonder who that was?

I think Ai built a lot of ultras to counter your billions of zerglings. And after that it had no free supplies to counter your mutas.

Grant, there is a whole SC2 mission that is all about how you shouldnt experiment with zerglings.

About mission 7, you have to destroy ALL hatcheries, lairs, and hives.

Who needs Dark Templars when Dragoons seem perfect enough to kill the Zerg. Looks like the Nerazim had a smart idea creating the Stalker, the power of the Dragoon with DT energy, the perfect unit. Now if only they did that with Reavers, that'll make for a fun unit.

is the observatory or the Arbiter Tribunal Grants least built Starcraft building?

it's really cool that because the AI zerg is super active with overlords, the queen gets so much value from parasitic. Makes it a legit thing you may want to go for with the insane scouting value you get from it, permanent eyes on the entire enemy base. The only way I see the second mission being any better than the free for all total deathmatch it is, is by adding some structure like "cerebrate husk" or something like that with 2-5k hp, on each base, that makes that base/brood an allie once destroied. That way it would feel like you are retaking control of the brood.

"This is going to be a muta war isn't it?". It always was Grant, it always was.

starcraft looks so much more fun when you start with a base instead of 2 workers and a dream

28:26 Orange Hatch: *Am I a joke to you?*

"My Queen has nothing to do" *gets rushed by Ultralisks*

Looking forward to Zerg 8. I struggled a bit with it personally, going to be fun to see how Grant tackles it.

I can't wait when he reaches the UED stages and Omega reversed

i was always a tiny bit dissapointed that the feral zerg on zerus in SC2 were only ever depicted as in-fighting as a piece of set dressing for Crucible, a mission where u never need to leave your base and only once for the bonus i made a modded version of the awful lava mining map from sc2 by just plopping versus mode AI into the map, one for every hatchery then recolored them all to purple so u cant tell they're seperate AI i also removed the stupid mining objective that makes the map unfun to play & replaced all the weird mineral patches with mineral pickups only the player can grab so you still play the map the same way by sending reapers to clear the fog but now its in support of you surviving against 4 AI, and put the mineral blockers that need to be destroyed from the co-op mutator over most of the mineral pickups so you can't just get 8,000 on a single shift-queued move order you actually have to stop to break them but i made them count as structures so reapers still excel at it, then gave 2/3rds of the blocked pickups so much HP/armor and and then 2/3rds of those life regen if u get interupted so that you really need a critical mass of reapers to be able to bust out all the mineral blocks & can't sweep the map on ur first go with 2-4 or a couple marines it did require putting AI pathing blockers on the ramps that are disabled at start, painting the highground with regions, once the lava timer starts taking control of units away if they aren't on their base highground & toggling the pathing blockers to the bases so no more will leave & giving a manual attack-move (later overridden with a move order right before the lava hits that then gets replaced with an attack-move order again if the move order fails so they cant be cheesed as easily) to all units on lowground, & then once on the highground giving them a manual attack-move order to the nearest player asset if they aren't alone on the highground, then giving them back to the AI once the lava recedes. all to make the whole thing work with the lava gimmick, but frankly it wasnt that hard and the map plays pretty well as a weird skirmish map now if only someone would finish the SC2 AI and make it able to build units to counter the player's instead of just randomly rolling dice for a set unit comp & then never straying from it, there would be a strong case for doing that to the whole campaign....

"Being supply blocked while attacking is a good thing. It means you're winning." I wish that was true for my games lmao

This is 100% the type of level where, as a kid, I would just put on map cheat and sit there and watch for hoooours.

if you burrow a control group of zerg ground units, you can quickly double click another group as it counts as a different type of unit for that purpose.

The way the culling was done is fucking INSPIRED I love it having zasz's feral hives fighting each other as well as needing to contend with the cerebrate's hive

It’s ashame Grant never played the UEDAIP Zerg campaigns because those have some of the best missions.

The AI always had to Macro in Starcraft for their regular stuff. Bleeding them dry of ressources by playing Turtle was how young me won most missions :P Only a few Missions where they get infinite stuff. In this Mod many times the Mod maker seemed to have given them Infinite money :P

Man... I know Zerg's main thing is the ability to build up and build back fast but my god its wild to see in real time just how rapidly they can make, lose, and remake armies. It really is something and really gives them that swarmy feel they're so famous for.

You know, I was thinking that Renegade Zerg was going be killed last but it turns out it was Renegade Zerg instead. I had such high hopes for Rengade Zerg though. Not unlike that useless Renegade Zerg. Who was your favourite Zerg in all that? I liked Renegade Zerg.

I barely realized... Perhaps the mission called the dark templar is a reference to the fact that Tassadar is already beginning to walk the path of the dark templar... And it may be that his confrontation against karrigan is his final test for to be one of the nerazim...

*Grant destroys a renegade zerg* "A renegade Zerg has been defeated" : Oh, I wonder who it was, we have no way of knowing.

I straight up can't get over how jazzed this guy is to be playing StarCraft. I'd have probably bounced by now if it weren't for how much damn fun this dude is having.

You can fit 4, 8 or 10 unit-tight gateways around a single pylon if you place the gateway above the pylon and align the left edge of the gateway with the left edge of the pylon. You then do the same thing in a clockwise fashion (rotated 90 degrees each time) around the pylon for a total of 4. You can expand that to 8 the same way, or even ten (but only horizontally b/c pylons generate asymmetrical fields)

I mean, it has probably been said but, it does feature The Dark Templar, just not as a unit in the mission itself. Storywise, this is the exact time the Zerg are attacked by the Dark Templar that actually kill a Cerebrate, Zasz, since Tassadar used this strike as a diversion (well, not in this reversed mission for sure!). Hence the title.

Of course when I play mission 7 I immediately get owned by a hydra attack AND mutas at the same time. Meanwhile when Grant plays the ais kill each other for him. =']

Alright, I never got why Tassadar said Kerrigan was honorable and full of life. My dude, she was a Confederate assassin who turned coated to a Sons of Korhal assassin. What I am saying is that getting infested by the Zerg is not exactly a huge downturn in her honorability... Also, I am upset that the mission did not require you to move a Hallucinated Tassadar to the battleground

I know it seems inefficient, but with the base layout you had in the first mission of the video, why wouldn't you have built an additional nexus or two to help optimize mining? I think it would help get to max probe saturation faster, while also requiring fewer probes to efficiently mine and therefore save some supply for if and when you get to max supply. There are a lot of missions that seem to benefit from extra hatcheries/command centres/nexii(?) due to the awful placement of minerals and gas, and admittedly hatcheries are most efficient for this as they double as production facilities, and command centres open up more comsats, but even the addition of a nexus in these missions can definitely be worth it imo.

I assume Tassadar is "The Dark Templar" in a sense. Or maybe the true Dark Templar is the friends we made along the way

Man, i miss the aesthetic of SC1 zerg. They look so gross, and alien and weird! It really feels like they toned it down in 2, and now they just look like monsters and that's just not as fun.

On the last mission you triggered a loss condition, but did not lose. Objective: Do not lose your Hatchery, Lair, or Hive.

"Could you love a monsterman, could you understand, the beauty of the beeeaaast?" Reaver: [Beep

If you ever think no one loves you and nobody would care if you die. Today we learned that if you have a parasite someone cares.

Say what you like about Grant, but he calls a storm a storm. Except when he calls 75 energy a storm, that is.

The AI in SC1 basically does have to actually macro (certain scripted events aside)

Reavers on top of ramps - almost as deadly in SC1 as the Siege Tank on top of a ramp.

Zasz has the biggest pair of ventral sacks out of all the Cerebrates on him and we know it. I kinda wish Grant would've figured out that Purp's tunnel vision on making nothing but Ultras is a perfect layup to switch into mass Queen, so we could witness all those Ultras instantly explode and the entire base getting wasted by Broodlings. Also, sending drones along every major push to set up creep colonies on enemy creep and turning them into spore/sunks was a bit of a missed opportunity me thinks

The feeling of playing red Zerg. The feel of power, even though fake, always seem to improve my play.

Herding enemy guardians is hilarious

mehhhhh The Dark Templar is about zasz being killed offscreen

16:30 The solution to Kerrigan is one observer, one carrier, and an arbiter.

Am I going insane, or do the archons just look different than they used to?

In that first mission you had the opportunity to mind control Kerrigan.

Wouldn't pirates build in the shape of an R?

17:55 Yadda Yadda Tribe? I don't think that's lore accurate

How long has the Yadda Yadda tribe been featured, lol?

Seriously that Zerg FFA is going to be hard to beat so far

wanna know how to make that mission even better? Randomize where the player will start. So you could play as blue right off the bat right next to the big bad powerful purple xD

Too bad you can’t go ultra devo the best combo in the game

I leave this as a legacy I pent the entire night watching wings of megsk till 12pm only to hear see you tommorow on a video from 1 day ago meaning I both missed the stream from being too late and missed the upload which is tommorow

the first mission in this episode.. but the zerg AI just spams hives across the whole map forcing the tos to do something other then try roll a death ball into 'the base' i wonder if that be possible to handle at all with an ai that fought decently hmm

that 4 kill zergling in the final mission is broken horn

7:45 lmao the sideways-U, also known as the C

GRANT THE DARK TEMPLAR IS ALL ABOUT ZA....

During the first mission intro, Tassadar says he met Kerrigan before (when she was human). This isn't actually in the campaign, as that Terran mission ended up being deleted from the final game. It still exists, of course, and is quite a fun mission. I think the map was re-used for one of the bonus scenarios, or maybe the prequel campaign, but I can't remember. Basically the player wipes out a load of Zerg, then Tassadar shows up with a huge fleet THAT YOU CAN CONTROL to destroy the rest of the Zerg

I hope this mod will be use with recall soon

Wait am i missing a conversation? How does Seledis know that Zeratul was the one responsible for the invasion of Aiur? Asfar as i know the only people that know it were the zerg tassadar and zeratul. Neither Tassadar or Zeratul ever spoke about it. Tassadar only hinted that the dark templar were involved. He mentioned how the dark templar energies are important to defeat the overmind. Then why does Selendis say in the reclamation of Aiur cinematic: "Dont forget that it was his Influence that brought ruin to Aiur."

obligatory 27 minute ultra timing

When I was playing reversed, eye for an eye was absolute fucking HELL. I’d get my economy going and help the first 2 DT get through but then the AI would just send a massive wave of hydra/guardian. It taught me how to use psi storm really well, but it was still too much for me to beat

What kind of triggers are they using to determine when to warp Kerrigan out of harm's way? I don't remember there being a way to track a unit's HP in SCMDraft 2

"I tried to read context clues and I was wrong" ~ Grant that literally ignored a text at beginning explaining everything....

Few tips: You can simply right click the ground to place rally point. You can also unload units by targetting the transport unit instead of the ground, it tends to work better. You can also cltr+ left click a larva to select many at once instead of going through each hatcheries. You can add a larva to your mutalisk control group to make mutas stack all the time you issue an order. Note in this mission, everytime a Zerg died, the text was colored the color of the player, so you could have known who was killed.

You know what'd be funny? If you expand/spread too much you lost control of your brood that were too far from Hive. Would be fitting for mission lol

Grant should have revealed the map on the ZvZ mission. That would of been funny to watch the AI fighting each other

In the first mission I went mass carrier and yeah, they sent scourge, but it was manageable. I lost a couple of carriers and 1-2 arbiters but won xD

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Thats because after the scv rush the overmind knows you need some goddamn discipline. :-)

I remember one time I was playing The Dark Templar where the protoss was amassing a fleet of Scouts, which they had rally them over one of my expansion but never attacked the expansion. Just kept giving the Scouts a move command.