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@csblame
@csblame 2 года назад
Jon’s voice wasn’t destroyed over one note or one song. His voice got destroyed from abuse and bad technique. You can have a great sounding voice with power and grit, but with bad technique you aren’t going to sustain. You can hear with every Bon Jovi album, Jon’s voice gets thinner and yet he still goes for the max of what his voice could do at that time period. His voice all through the 80’s and and up to 96’ was amazing on album and at the start of a tour. On his solo album in 97’ is when I heard the biggest drop off in his voice tone and range. But honestly, his voice lasted longer than I thought it would.
@MalMotorDedo
@MalMotorDedo Год назад
I mean, he lasted longer than Robert Plant
@kv2723
@kv2723 9 месяцев назад
​@MalMotorDedo Robert Plant had surgery and has been doing great.
@AD-hs4cw
@AD-hs4cw 4 месяца назад
drinking and partying and overuse from touring destroyed his voice period...he should have stopped in around 2015 to 2018...now its just not even the same person singing even after surgery....sad to see it end this way and to keep singing ruining what use to be great
@OldDragonHunter
@OldDragonHunter 2 года назад
In-ear monitors were a game-changer. Singing in the 80s with floor monitors was difficult at best. People don't realize how hard it is to sing when you cannot hear your voice.
@roelhoremans5887
@roelhoremans5887 2 года назад
Haha, and your first club gigs you wouldn't even know whether someone could hear you or not. 😂 Guitars, more guitars, drums, sore throat.
@OldDragonHunter
@OldDragonHunter 2 года назад
@@roelhoremans5887 Exactly!
@nosale777
@nosale777 2 года назад
It death to the voice when you cant hear...nothing like hearing a show i did and was out most of the time
@harry53831
@harry53831 2 года назад
Get a new sound guy or new monitors if you can't hear your voice on stage. I've started doing my own sound now, saves so much money & hassle
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 2 года назад
Saw him in 87' at the late, great Spectrum in Philly. He was still able to sing his heart out then. Jon sacrificed his voice for his art and for his audience. I'll always respect him for that. Don't fool yourself, Jon sits alone sometimes thinking to himself..."should I hang it up?" That must be a tough thing to have to do. But when you, as a singer, give that much of yourself, it can't last forever. I'll always be grateful to Jon and his incredible voice for giving me some of the best memories of my youth.
@kinggames4668
@kinggames4668 2 года назад
100%
@work1907
@work1907 2 года назад
More like reckless actually. His voice could’ve been in a way better condition if he worked on his technique early on.
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 2 года назад
@@work1907 I don't think he needed to nail down a technique @Eeeeeeee! (I like that. That's funny). A technique is something you use to develop as a vocalist. He was already an established vocalist. When vocalists go on tour, they usually tell themselves" I'm either going to give 100% from the gate (knowing they'll eventually blow out their voice) or I'll give 75-80% to preserve my voice for this tour." There isn't fourteen different approaches to this problem. Jon chose the former and now he's paying for it.
@craigusselman546
@craigusselman546 2 года назад
At a concert recently he had to get the crowd to finish the song for him it was awful.
@PoxyBear
@PoxyBear 2 года назад
You can give 100% and still protect your most treasured instrument. Jon didn't take care of his voice and now he's paying the price.
@chasezly
@chasezly 2 года назад
he’s said himself that he doesn’t expect the songs he writes to be hits. he didn’t know he’d sing a song with such demanding vocals for decades.
@MrMatthiasSchneider
@MrMatthiasSchneider 2 года назад
He might have been saying that in 1986, but for the past 20 years all of his songs have had the exact same formula. There are like two or three "It's My Lifes" on every album, because he's trying as hard as he can to write hits. Most of them are probably easier to sing than Living On A Prayer though.
@Punttipate62
@Punttipate62 2 года назад
@Jedimaster420 runaway is from the "bon jovi" album
@brents.8972
@brents.8972 2 года назад
In actuality, Prayer came within an ass hair of being left of Slippery When Wet bc Jon said he hated the song; however, better heads prevailed at the time and Richie Sambora and Producer Bruce Fairburn eventually talked Jon into putting it on the album. Richie even told Jon, "Man this is the best sing we've ever written!" (at the time). Jon was basically like WTF Richie? lol But it was included on the album and the rest his history and made history!
@gatt2b
@gatt2b 2 года назад
According to Jon at 18 his goal was to be the #1 rock band of all time he surely thought about as he got older it would get harder we can see an adjustment on THIS LEFT FEELS RIGHT a fantastic twist on he his hits throughout his career but also realizing I need to give my voice a rest I personally don't think Jon has any regrets if you study Jon Bon Jovi he's a strictly business type of guy sure there's time to rest and spend time with family but mostly If he's not singing he's working with their foundation he and his lovely wife have giving back to their community 100 times over that"s who Jon really is these days sure he performs but their foundation feeding the hungry and housing the homeless are really at the front of his mind Jon is a super star that is living a very blessed life due to his hard work ethics and dedication and never quiting speaking with Aldo Nova he really describes Jon determination since he first met him at Tony Bongiovi studio a cousin of Jon's where Aldo and Jon first met and you probably already know this I too am a huge fan wish I could've walked in his shoes what a ride in fact on a steel horse at that 😃
@gatt2b
@gatt2b 2 года назад
@Jedimaster420 runaway isn't from 7800f it's from his first album Bon Jovi
@insanitypepper1740
@insanitypepper1740 2 года назад
The key change is what makes Living on a Prayer a legendary song.
@DarrynYates
@DarrynYates 2 года назад
He’s a true rock legend, fuck playing it safe. He pushed the limits and he deserves his legendary status. The safe middle of the road people will never do anything extraordinary. Rock on Jon! 🤘🏼🎸
@eloarodriguesdasilva8255
@eloarodriguesdasilva8255 Год назад
Lindo.❤❤❤❤❤❤
@AD-hs4cw
@AD-hs4cw 4 месяца назад
um yeah NOPE...he should have stopped in 2018...past 6-8 years are just a waste and ruined his voice for good..he was legendary but he ruined that by staying to long...and most people including him are in denial of that fact
@DarrynYates
@DarrynYates 4 месяца назад
@@AD-hs4cw I hear what you’re saying and I appreciate the comment! I just think his legendary status is pretty solid, especially if he bounces back w the power he once had. If not I agree with ya, hang it up and enjoy the success u had. 🍻🤘🏼🎸
@AD-hs4cw
@AD-hs4cw 4 месяца назад
@@DarrynYates have you heard the new album...like I said 2-3 catchy tunes but not a real BonJovi sound record...its a background vocals over dub and when you do hear his voice, it sounds harsh and does not sound like him. That takes nothing about how great he WAS, but man should'nt have gone out like this...he has plenty of money, fame, what more do you need,...but the ego drives him and why he was driven to make music and desire to be center stage...just makes me sad
@DarrynYates
@DarrynYates 4 месяца назад
@@AD-hs4cw I hear ya my friend, I’m just hoping this voice stuff he’s going thru truly is surgery/medical related and he bounces back and melts faces again arena rock style! I haven’t heard too much of the new stuff. To your point, the voice stuff he’s going through is for sure sad and not making me wanna listen much. I hate Fn saying that!
@matthewmartin7639
@matthewmartin7639 2 года назад
Just saw him live in Nashville. Yeah, his voice isn't what it used to be. Dudes done thousands and thousands of shows for the majority of his adult life. And he is getting old. It happens. Still puts on an incredible show.
@maxington26
@maxington26 2 года назад
Well, to be fair, it's: his band, the guys on sound, lighting technicians, set producers + hands & the audio/visual designers who are putting on the incredible show. Jon just isn't, unfortunately.
@MrMatthiasSchneider
@MrMatthiasSchneider 2 года назад
Honestly, I'm even doubting that last line. In just about all the footage from the recent tour he's pretty much just standing there struggling (and the rest of the band is just standing there not struggling). The audience is standing around filming everything on their phones. Looks like a lame experience all around, especially for that price and especially compared with their glory days.
@matthewmartin7639
@matthewmartin7639 2 года назад
@@MrMatthiasSchneider He literally started the show by walking down through the crowd on the railing. He was all over the stage. Are they the same as their prime? No. But I'd go see them again. Also we only spent about $100 per ticket and we were almost on the floor. And it was a sold out show standing room only. Also, name another show where the crowd isn't just standing around filming. It's 2022. That's what people do now. But I saw people dancing. I saw people jumping up and down. It was a good show.
@ryanstreuli9554
@ryanstreuli9554 2 года назад
i saw them in 2019, he still has loads of energy and passion
@kv2723
@kv2723 9 месяцев назад
​@actionfigureShowcase stupid comment
@vn2022_
@vn2022_ 2 года назад
He might not sing these days like he used to sing back then, he will always be my number one favorite vocalist. He sing songs like there's no tomorrow during his younger years, and now that he's not as young as he was before, it would be difficult for him to sing and reach those high notes, but I will always respect the man for his passion for music. He might stop singing one day but the legacy he'll left will always be remain in the heart of his fans.
@2puffs770
@2puffs770 2 года назад
I really like what you're doing with these creative intro's to your videos. Thank you for covering Jon, the eighties and nineties shined so much brighter with him in it.....and he looks SO HAPPY in those ending photos. Jon is one of my ALL time favorite peeps......forever! .....and so are you!!!!!!
@RjRocker80
@RjRocker80 2 года назад
I've had this album since I was 7 years old in 1987. Still one of my favorites. Living on a prayer is an insane song to sing right. I can't tell you how many times I've been out to see cover bands and been out to karaoke bars. The high notes always end up sounding like a dying hyena. Jon gave his life and his body to his craft and left us all with pure gold. No one stays young forever. We all thank you for the great memories \m/
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 2 года назад
Is this the final chorus where it shifts up in key? What notes is he hitting here? Those live performances sounded more like Axl Rose than what I remember JBJ sounding like. It's a shame because we are reaching an era where all the greats of the 80s and early 90s are struggling somewhat, but like you said 'was it worth it?' and the answer is probably because they made some incredible music and produced incredible live performances in their prime. The only real constant is change.
@CrazySinging
@CrazySinging 2 года назад
Totally! Yes it’s that key change and the highest note is an Eb5
@lafoliarihavein7163
@lafoliarihavein7163 2 года назад
Well let's not talk about axl rose here. That guy isn't human XD
@heloisasoares7377
@heloisasoares7377 2 года назад
In his interviews Jon often says he wouldn’t have guessed they would still be doing this 30 years later. IMo he forced his voice so hard because he thought the fame wouldn’t have lasted that long.
@alexnlsptube
@alexnlsptube Год назад
I'm sorry that the videos are now muted...
@pinkpeonygirl
@pinkpeonygirl 2 года назад
I was lucky to see him a couple of times in the '90s and it was epic.
@loughrey101
@loughrey101 2 года назад
He was epic in the early 00's too during the Crash tour
@2good2betrue3
@2good2betrue3 2 года назад
Living on a Prayer final key shift to Eb5 is one of the hardest Bon Jovi songs to sing.👌 But I think the following are also vying for hardest Bon Jovi songs to emulate vocally, just depending on the singers approach or his forte - chest voice, head voice or Falsetto. I'll be There for You - the gutteral scream after "I wish I'd seen you blown those candles out...Whooooooaaaaahoooooow!"😱(simply vocal destroying, I would advice him to avoid including that on a nightly set-list and I'm not sure if he ever nailed that part consistently Live- just like the record.) Never Say GoodBye - the very last ending part of the song before the outro guitar solo - the long sustained scream" Holding on to never saaay Goodbyeeeeeeeeeaaaaahahayahhhaaa... wooooaaooow!" Bed of Roses Chorus - abused in karaoke bars, but I haven't heard many sang this with much power and conviction, Even Jon struggles with this on live concerts nowadays. While many who try singing this are using Falsetto to cheat it but Jon's Chest and diaghpram belting on record that is hard to match: - "For toniiiiiite I sleep Ooonnn a BEEEEEEEEEDDDDD of Naiiiillss....wooooaaaaahh....."- that damn "beeeeedd of nails" part is damn hard to sing on a regular basis. I've listened to hundreds of karaoke singers butcher that part. haha. Good Old Day's...I dont think we'll ever hear Jon sing again with such power just like in his prime.🥲
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 2 года назад
Miracle from the Young Guns soundtrack too. He belts the s**t out of that one too.
@fredlaroche6969
@fredlaroche6969 2 года назад
Yeah, there you go... as insane as the chorus is on its own, the final one why he changes the key to even higher is just bunkers...
@loughrey101
@loughrey101 2 года назад
I'd argue that Bed of Roses is far more vocally strenuous than Livin on a Prayer. Yes, Prayer has a few difficult notes but Roses is vocally demanding for 70% of the song. He's really out of his depths with that song
@loughrey101
@loughrey101 2 года назад
@@kawasakiwhiptwo5821 He does but he rarely performed it live so doing it as a once-off in a studio is properly relatively safe
@2good2betrue3
@2good2betrue3 2 года назад
@@loughrey101 Yeah right mate, Bed of Roses is such a Hard song to sing, the dynamics, breathing the low to high notes should be precise or it will sound bad, Many karaoke singers butcher that cool song .😅 One of the best Bon Jovi songs IMHO.
@jackbundy5183
@jackbundy5183 2 года назад
In New Jersey there's a rest stop dedicated to Jon Bon Jovi complete with a Starbucks stand with his platinum album proudly displayed next to it, a wall-sized picture of him taken from behind that makes his butt about the size of a human head, giant light up guitar, and a box where a life-sized, holographic Jon Bon Jovi talks to people. I learned this from Rodney Anonymous from the Dead Milkmen while he was talking to the crowd, and I don't know what else to do with this information besides bringing it up whenever someone mentions Bon Jovi
@CrazySinging
@CrazySinging 2 года назад
I seriously appreciate this new knowledge and it has forever changed me
@jackbundy5183
@jackbundy5183 2 года назад
@@CrazySinging You and me both, sir
@rodneystanger1651
@rodneystanger1651 2 года назад
What hiway is that on? Thought I been to every rest stop in NJ and never saw that. Parkway, maybe?
@jackbundy5183
@jackbundy5183 2 года назад
@@rodneystanger1651 Garden State Parkway. It was just built late last year, I think?
@rodneystanger1651
@rodneystanger1651 2 года назад
@@jackbundy5183 Ah, that explains it. Been about 3 years since I've been there.
@jamesrenner5086
@jamesrenner5086 2 года назад
I think the 'scream" in "I'll be there for you" is the highest note, maybe ever sang in the history of rock and roll. Acapella, no less...I will NEVER forget the power and energy of hearing THAT NOTE filling the ENTIRE SKY of Hershey Park Arena on that warm summer night many moons ago...I've been chasing it ever since. He struggled badly this tour and I wish for his recovery, but I will ALWAYS hear the right notes in my heart!
@GlamourSwinexXx
@GlamourSwinexXx 2 года назад
It's not technically the highest note, not even Jon's highest note, but it's a damn good one. His actual highest whistle note is in the song "Let's Make It Baby", a New Jersey demo later released on These Days bonus disc
@buganemi
@buganemi 2 года назад
That note is sang using mixed falsetto,not chest. It is in fact,less demanding (in general) than this one in Livin' on a prayer.
@tilenjk02
@tilenjk02 2 года назад
Its far from being the highest, but he does it with a lot of chest pulling that high so thats why it sounds so epic. If he would have done it with falsetto it would have sounded boring.
@alljourney2834
@alljourney2834 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1SDTI5gVW44.html skip to 4:50 this might be Steve Perrys highest note ever.
@GlamourSwinexXx
@GlamourSwinexXx 2 года назад
Runaway is not Jon's highest note, he is just singing the high part in falsetto. He did sing it live, to my knowledge, as late as '86 as you can see here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6nTUGrOPfcw.html
@michellegiardinobast7471
@michellegiardinobast7471 2 года назад
What about the note in "I'll be there for you"? . It is sung mid way.. That note was high and powerful. Bon Jovi was my first concert at 15 years old in 86. They opened for 38 Special at the Spectrum. I have seen them about 15 times and they are my lifetime favorite band ever. They worked hard to get where they are today. They appreciate their fans. I am grateful to have seen him so many times.❤
@WillRock07
@WillRock07 2 года назад
I think Jons voice was at it's peak during that period. The album New Jersey is great, and Jon seemed to perfect these really high pitched wails like the one in I'll Be There For You. Listen to the last minute or so of Livin' In Sin from the same album - he does two amazing wails that are imo some of most awesome rock screams ever. Having said that, I don't think it's a surprise that his voice started to get a little worse after that.
@postmodernjessejames4084
@postmodernjessejames4084 2 года назад
I know which part you talking about. LOVE IT!!
@andreveach7520
@andreveach7520 2 года назад
Jon is now 60 & been a touring singer for just about 40 years
@ray1ashwin
@ray1ashwin 2 года назад
Most rock singers from 80s and 90s used to use too much pressure and force to sing which is great cos it gives lots of dynamics and distortion but its not something you can do forever so its better to learn right vocal techniques.I used to do the same when I was young and strain out my vocal cords but as I grew older and explored other vocal techniques and genres besides rock n metal,I started to notice singers who were singing high notes smoothly without straining out their vocals so I started to learn their techniques and use it in my singing and I was able to sing high pitches and notes very easily.Even though Jon is my inspiration i always noticed he used too much energy and pressure when singing,he always had bad vocaltechniques.It doesn't really take much effort to sing high notes if you use your vocals right.if you carefully listen to singers like Brian Johnson,Robert plant,Michael starr of steel panther you will find that they don't use much pressure or force while singing but singers like Jon and axle rose used excessive amount of vocal pressure when they were at their prime and which obviously ruined their vocal chords in the long run.
@tuttasb5338
@tuttasb5338 2 года назад
I've been a Bon Jovi fan for decades and I've lost count of how many times I've heard LOAP live, the last time in 2019. For the last couple of year's I've been grieving the fact that Jon's voice is gone and that I can't experience those amazing moments live again. I'm still a fan, Bon Jovi will forever be in my heart but I won't go see them live again, it's too painful. Fortunately I've discovered another artist with truly amazing vocals. I saw Dimash Qudaibergen live for the first time this year and I can't even start to describe how good he is. Not only an incredible stage presence but he can sing anything and his technique is flawless so he will be around for a very long time.
@Inferno594
@Inferno594 2 года назад
DO A DEATH METAL VOCAL ALREADY MAN IM DYING TOO SEE IT
@thequiet1374
@thequiet1374 2 года назад
I'm going to guess..... the recording of his Blaze of Glory album didn't help his cords either.
@slorr55
@slorr55 2 года назад
He aint that young anymore, bad technic, age, all will take a toll on all singers
@BonJovi1987Fan
@BonJovi1987Fan 2 года назад
The nassau coliseum 1987 livin on a prayer performances is my favorite of all time.
@shaunmatthews4601
@shaunmatthews4601 2 года назад
Living on a prayer and living in sin both have really high parts. I love that he pushed himself for the records and even though I didn’t really like the softer version of “prayer” I understood why he did that.
@manicfoot
@manicfoot 2 года назад
They really made a mistake with the key of Living on a Prayer, but then again one of the reasons it sounds so great and powerful is because of how it pushes Jon's voice to its limits. I think he could sound much better now if he got some training on technique and rested his voice for a while. He has been pushing too hard for too long the wrong way, which might he hard to unlearn.
@victorabadia9700
@victorabadia9700 2 года назад
My daughter wanted to sing this song in a talent show and I told her NO! In the back of my mind, I was hoping that Jovi would sing the acoustic version he did on MTV so he would never lose his voice. Here is a link of my daughter if you want to look… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eF1qIMLaA_I.html after the show she told me that she would only sing the song again if it was in a lower key. And relived that she did not sing living on a prayer!
@WillRock07
@WillRock07 2 года назад
I think it's quite telling that in the final chorus for the studio version, the full vocals, including the backing vocals, are pretty pitchy when compared to the vocals in the original key. They were struggling with that final chorus from day one. The backing vocals even hit a G5 at one point. I think part of the reason for this was that Livin' On A Prayer was originally written in D Minor, but for the Studio Version, they transposed it up a whole tone to E Minor. That shit would have impacted Jon's (and the rest of the bands) ability to sing the song comfortably. I also remember a vocal couch listening to the isolated vocals, and pointing out how strained Jons vocals are. That's in the studio version. He was really pushing his voice to the limit to hit those notes, and the dude was having to do that, every night. No wonder his voice deteriorated.
@haroldhighfield7629
@haroldhighfield7629 2 года назад
I haven't been able to find a single clip of him singing the key change live, even in 1987. It might not exist apart from the album track and the demo. Of course, pushing it to the limit and putting everything he had into it is what made it so epic.
@DMDvideo10
@DMDvideo10 2 года назад
I doubt any one note or the repeat of it led to Jon's vocal struggles. More like a summation of his entire career or lack of caring for it as an instrument. What I notice that no one is mentioning is that he doesn't look right. Physically he looks frail just standing there, not walking around. Somethings not right way beyond his singing issues...
@emmawood3341
@emmawood3341 2 года назад
A lot of people don't understand how much he's sacrificed for what he loves doing most in the whole world and they're all too busy making fun of him for it now. Unbelievable.
@pianoekket
@pianoekket 2 года назад
It's sad what happened to his voice. But i'm glad he gave us the best album ever created.. Blaze of Glory. Santa Fe might just be his best work ever
@bradgaines
@bradgaines 2 года назад
True. That album is amazing.
@desebcarrillo
@desebcarrillo 2 года назад
the same happened to me, in a different level off course, but I damaged my voice real hard, and I had to quit singing, but I was young and fool...besides no one told me and the internet wasn't as powerfull as it is today
@expertz
@expertz 2 года назад
it would have been fine if he didn't sing that note on every concert, or even just by spacing the concerts out it would've helped his voice. the change from early to mid 1987 was crazy
@guilhermebotelho8691
@guilhermebotelho8691 2 года назад
The poem got me
@jakamahadika7605
@jakamahadika7605 2 года назад
Thanks for this, I gigs regularly every 2 days in local cafe and I love hitting high notes (not that high obviously), but I'll start using IEM so I can save myself
@chatclap
@chatclap 2 года назад
Not true, he stoped singing the chorus a long time ago and still could sing a lot of other songs, btw he turned the whole thing a half step down a long time ago too, its not one note that kills the voice, its bad technique in all his singing, and pushing, plus too many tours, bad sleep, cortisone, drinking and smoking, for example in “always” when he sang “WILL love you” he should have modified the ee vowel, and kept the throat open, this is in many songs, not one, but its strictly necessary to keep training and studying otherwise youll lose range, because the songs are very demanding. I cant say this enough if you wanna tour like bon jovi you need a coach on the road, this is how axl managed to do the ac/dc tour, he took ron anderson (rip) with him, so no, its not “this note killed bon jovi” he sang amazing for many years but with bad technique you end up losing the voice
@nickgodfrey1148
@nickgodfrey1148 2 года назад
That’s what I was gonna say - surely it’s the technique? Rob Halford is still singing his nuts off along with Dio and Bruce and they are older than JBJ.
@joshuaa61
@joshuaa61 2 года назад
Yup. He didn’t even sing the notes live in 90’s.
@bradgaines
@bradgaines 2 года назад
Absolutely correct! I don't know what this guy is talking about how this one note destroyed his voice. Has he heard the Young Guns soundtrack? That's hardly a destroyed voice. But yes, all the reasons you gave in your comment is why Jon can't sing near as well anymore.
@gapjunction11
@gapjunction11 2 года назад
@@bradgaines I think especially on that soundtrack you can hear that Jon never had that good of a technique. "Santa Fe" is a great song, but to me it's more yelling than singing.
@rodneystanger1651
@rodneystanger1651 2 года назад
@@nickgodfrey1148 Those guys are gifted with insane voices. JBJ was never one of those. You can almost count them on 2 hands, that's a rare gift and JBJ never had that kind of voice.
@TornadoShaunUK
@TornadoShaunUK 2 года назад
Brilliant singer back in the day. All those that say he has always sucked are just haters that haven't got a clue. He does sound really fuckin bad these days though, not just not hitting the high notes anymore but also off key on a regular basis even when the songs are tuned down to help him out...
@zombee38
@zombee38 2 года назад
I saw him on dec 85 and later on 86 at the top of everything i was lucky
@wss33
@wss33 Год назад
I think his screams ripped his voice. It’s my favourite scream but he mostly did them live in the 80s. He did them at the end of Living in Sin and I’ll be there for you. He also had a phenomenal rasp but it was clearly very unhealthy the way he did it.
@blainetrahan8883
@blainetrahan8883 2 года назад
Bloody vocal chords. That’s rock n roll. 😂😂
@synchroeditions6454
@synchroeditions6454 2 года назад
It is absolutely not on this song that Jon broke his voice. it was on a note in particular that he played in concert. We hear it in particular in several songs like "Living in Sin" or "I'll be there for you". Stop saying nonsense. In concert, the refrain of "Livin' on a prayer" was sung by the backing vocals of the other members of the group.
@steliosc.4686
@steliosc.4686 2 года назад
Is there a natural way to recover from a damaged voice?
@brunofonseca7031
@brunofonseca7031 2 года назад
I think that what destroyed his Voice was the number of concerts. It was many tours with more than 2:30h of concert including several high notes songs. This and cigarretes, bad technic and the lack of treatment "helped" his Voice go away
@kinggames4668
@kinggames4668 2 года назад
Exactly! Like 150-200 shows each tour (at least in the 80s and 90s) and had an entire tour where all concerts were close to 3 hours in length. Crazy but glad we got so many good concerts. What makes him so unique is the fact that he gives his all every concert, it was always 100%, not 70% like others
@AD-hs4cw
@AD-hs4cw 4 месяца назад
@@kinggames4668 stupid...and yes...its partying DRINKING, SMOKING, OVER USE from TOURING...and he kept going when he should have stopped back in 2015 to 2018, ...now its over and no going back...party like a rock star and pay the ultimate price...burning so bright doesnt last....destroyed Richie, destroyed Bon Jovi's voice, destroyed the real bon jovi band
@sevenseems4917
@sevenseems4917 2 года назад
to be honest, they used backing vocal tracks for this song even back in the day in the first tours following the album release... he just killed his voice because of his overall lack of training and technique, and solely relying on his amazing natural gift and beautiful tone/color...
@greecebj
@greecebj Год назад
Where is the music in 1:20 and 1:40?? I can't hear the songs
@davebowden4010
@davebowden4010 2 года назад
First clip sounds more like Axl Bon Rosie
@Steeldusk_Frontman
@Steeldusk_Frontman 2 года назад
YEAAAA NGL
@Bansidhe
@Bansidhe 2 года назад
Almost like pre Appetite Axl.
@maon7565
@maon7565 2 года назад
Exactly the same thing I said about "welcome to the jungle". Doing it once in the studio is one thing, but going on tour, having to do that over and over, sometimes nightly, is another. You also neglected to mention the R&R lifestyle (read cocaine) seals your fate.
@MJfan560
@MJfan560 2 года назад
And yet I decided to perform this song live two days ago and it was hard...as a trained female singer...this song is incredibly hard to sing
@victorabadia9700
@victorabadia9700 2 года назад
My daughter wanted to sing this song in a talent show and I told her NO! In the back of my mind, I was hoping that Jovi would sing the acoustic version he did on MTV so he would never lose his voice. Here is a link of my daughter if you want to look… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eF1qIMLaA_I.html after the show she told me that she would only sing the song again if it was in a lower key. And relived that she did not sing living on a prayer!
@zacharymcquaid7696
@zacharymcquaid7696 2 года назад
You could hear a noticeably lower tone of singing on the next album New Jersey. Rocked out again with some high notes and “pointy” sounding singing on Keep the Faith but then managed quite great vocals during the These Days era with more longer tones and emotion.
@faithharris7173
@faithharris7173 2 года назад
One thing that he could've used if it was known was his false folds in the top of his throat. It would've protected his voice making it safer to do that high notes in the song. Many metal singers use that technique to not damage their voice while they scream.
@CrazySinging
@CrazySinging 2 года назад
Completely agreed!
@faithharris7173
@faithharris7173 2 года назад
@@CrazySinging one of the safest techniques out there for sure!
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 2 года назад
Any where good to learn this?
@faithharris7173
@faithharris7173 2 года назад
@@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL I'm still learning it myself, theres a lot of tutorials here on how to do it. I'll reccomend Adrienne Cowan of Seven Spires. Theres even a vocal coach who's helped many metal singers figure out their issues and how to false fold scream. Cant remember her name exactly but she is very talented
@alejandrotabarezlancaster7015
@alejandrotabarezlancaster7015 2 года назад
@@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Chris Liepe
@raffaellavercesi9401
@raffaellavercesi9401 2 года назад
This is very sad, but thanks for explaining
@gregorydavidson177
@gregorydavidson177 2 года назад
I knew exactly what note, even before watching the video, you were gonna say was the one that killed his range and vocals. I do agree that it definitely is a note that would be difficult, and would take a toll on anyone's pipes, especially singing it night after night for years and years. I also say he knew this long ago, and that's why they redone it, calling it "prayer 95". But it's not just the note, I think people seem to forget that these guys from the 80s, are close to the retirement age now. They are older, and wore out! In my opinion, it's got more to do with age than the note. Look how many of them are struggling beyond embarrassment at this point? Brian Johnson, Bon Jovi, Vince Neil, David Lee Roth, plus many more that simply cannot sing like they are suckin in a constant flow of helium anymore. They were young and didn't take into concideration that one day, they wouldn't be capable of singing like that. Age is more to blame here than the note.
@_Only_Zuul
@_Only_Zuul 2 года назад
lol 😄 maybe to suck in some helium could help them?🤣
@PaperbackWriter92
@PaperbackWriter92 2 года назад
Not to be that person who feels the need to correct a person but I'm not trying to be rude by doing so, it wasn't "Prayer 95", it was 94 because that was the year they re-recorded it for the Cross Road Greatest Hits album, then in 2003 they did "This Left Feels Right" but I haven't heard that version of Prayer yet. Recently bought the concert DVD of it from ebay.
@gregorydavidson177
@gregorydavidson177 2 года назад
@@PaperbackWriter92 it's fine! Not offended at all. At the time I wasn't 100%, and started to Google it, and I felt pretty confident, it was 95. I was wrong. Thank you for the correction and the politeness.
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ 2 года назад
У Джона, свой голос, да, у него своеобразный, своя линия у каждого певца! Для меня незнаю,👍 мне очень нравится, с переливами и бархотистый, он менялся у него с течением времени, всегда, и это здорово, да у нас много пивцов в мире, но Джон Бон Джови, для меня легендарный певец, я слушаю часто и целый день могу слушать, он состоялся, как певец, личность, я научилась выделять многое и понимать многое, благодаря ему, тьфу , в прямом смысле на наших и не наших современных певцов, да, Джон, не Шаляпин, не поет народные песни, но он целый музыкальный" век, его песни со смыслом, у нас в России, на данный момент есть голос -Антонов,Шатунова, потянет Стас Михайлов, немного Круг, а из даже и не сказать, я поинимаю-главное песни Джона, и рада очень! И американских певцов и певиц люблю, людей у которых есть голос, песни и музыка, а не ттрр ,буммс и в этом роде. Я съдества много занималась музыкой, потом курила сигареты и потеряла голос, не совсем, но увы... Вот нам показали реальную съёмку с концерта, певец поет, пауза не важно, она была, а люди стоят, требуют разогрева, тоже не правильно!
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ 2 года назад
I'm from 1982г., and for me, Djon very much interesting new only men, a, people, проститите перейду на русский, как человек, автор множества уникальных песен, и развиваться им ещё много, я давно сл
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ 2 года назад
I' m sorry, слушаю песни, и доросла да картины, на которой они затпечатленны, но она издана на заказ, и предпологаю ещё одну, но позже, а то, что Ричард Самбора вышел из группы, так пусть один и поет, я думаю один в поле не всегда воин, а новый гитарист супрер! 👍Джону можно спеть о море, такой песни у них нет, о дружбе, о любви, как чувство, о фанатах!
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ 2 года назад
А, мы, будем с нетерпением ждать их выступлений, клиппов!
@juliarios5568
@juliarios5568 2 года назад
Impossível não gostar do Bon jovi, meu pai gosta muito das músicas dele..🎶🍃
@CrazySinging
@CrazySinging 2 года назад
💛
@juliarios5568
@juliarios5568 2 года назад
@@Filipe_endlich quem?
@Filipe_endlich
@Filipe_endlich 2 года назад
@@juliarios5568 vc e seu pai tem bom gosto marquei errado.
@juliarios5568
@juliarios5568 2 года назад
@@Filipe_endlich simm
@manchester8143
@manchester8143 2 года назад
Forever in my heart JBJ
@tilenjk02
@tilenjk02 2 года назад
What about Ill be there for you live ad-libs aka screaming like pig and Livin' in sin screaming also like dying pig. Livin on a prayer is not that hard compared to that., well it's hard, but at least he is not compresing vocals like on these 2 songs. Also another important thing you missed... his vocals were better in 90s, so definitely didn't lose them in 80s. WEll, he had a problem in 1987, but then he was fine again. Check out: Bon Jovi - Living in Sin (live from Rotterdam 1989) Bon Jovi - I'll Be There For You (Philadelphia 1989) and you will be blown away
@kinggames4668
@kinggames4668 2 года назад
Screaming like pig? Huh you mean whistle note? That’s what it is
@filipegoncalves1867
@filipegoncalves1867 9 месяцев назад
This video is a joke.Jon's voice was not destroyed by a note or song but by bad technique. Nowadays we see that he sings with technique, but his voice has already been damaged. Very late
@kingconfusion2295
@kingconfusion2295 2 года назад
I saw one of the shows on the Slippery tour and remember him commenting how difficult it was to sing LoaP.
@casimirok2760
@casimirok2760 2 года назад
To everyone who wishes they could sing like Bon Jovi... now you can 😂
@maryfreebed9886
@maryfreebed9886 2 года назад
"'Genie, when I said I wanted to sing like Bon Jovi, I meant I also wanted to sound like he did in his prime. I didn't mean for you to make us both suck as badly as I do. This is awful."
@StaneMostar
@StaneMostar 2 года назад
That stupid comment I read in every corner...
@casimirok2760
@casimirok2760 2 года назад
@@StaneMostar are you president of the Bon Jovi fan club
@StaneMostar
@StaneMostar 2 года назад
@@casimirok2760 No,just don't like that people repeating the same comment in every Bon Jovi video...
@evancontreras9127
@evancontreras9127 2 года назад
"STOP RHYMING I MEAN IT..." "Anybody wanna peanut"
@olliebyrd
@olliebyrd 2 года назад
Exactly
@kaironogueira5604
@kaironogueira5604 2 года назад
I don't believe this specific note was THE problem. Since the 90's he doesn't sing it anymore
@buganemi
@buganemi 2 года назад
Yup,you are right. He sang everything using his high larynx. It is too demanding,over time, the stress is too much for the vocal chords.
@jeremyplumley9165
@jeremyplumley9165 2 года назад
I watched this video in the hospital room of my comatose father. Upon hearing this he immediately woke up, hopped out of bed and ran over and and jumped out.
@patrickkish6662
@patrickkish6662 2 года назад
This is critical rock research. Great job👍🏼
@cebedojames
@cebedojames 2 года назад
Ive recently been improving in my singing. have been pushing higher notes. I can belt chest voice b4 now on a good day like high note on that song "dont stop believing". I am natural baritone. maybe i should stop? It does sound good when i do it because it sounds more powerful/much stronger sounding than falsetto.
@MetalArcade
@MetalArcade 2 года назад
2:57 yeah you can tell it's already hurting his voice there in 1986
@ethanplaystv7
@ethanplaystv7 11 месяцев назад
I can’t heat the singing
@dwade6322
@dwade6322 2 года назад
Lol..what killed Jon's voice was 40 years of Menthol cigarettes.
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ
@МарияРеброва-я1ъ 2 года назад
Если, человек смог и на концерте толпа, я думаю,, что все получилось и так каждый год, дай Бог🥰
@9-volt_fan142
@9-volt_fan142 Год назад
Don't hear anything at 1:19. 😕
@jesseblue5659
@jesseblue5659 Год назад
Guys I cant hear the note jon hit but Im just 16 what should I do
@ellisparrish5002
@ellisparrish5002 2 года назад
God said, “Hey Jon… fuck that prayer.”. 🔥🙌🏻
@jimjim7008
@jimjim7008 2 года назад
For your information everyone, Bon Jovi is an American singer from New Jersey, NY.
@jonvincent786
@jonvincent786 2 года назад
This and the outro of Runaway. No idea how he sang those live back in the 80s
@teukumyama7659
@teukumyama7659 2 года назад
Light mix is the ONLY WAY to sing this fucking song
@MashupsByMandy
@MashupsByMandy 2 года назад
Do you plan on analyzing Andre Matos voice change from 2005 to 2012 or Edu Falaschi vocal problems from 2003 onwards? Edu Falaschi's case might be the most famous case in latin america of a rock\metal singer losing a lot of his voice in a few years by singing Andre Matos songs and trying to meet his range at his own peril. (he was a hired musician so he was under pressure to meet the standards set by the previous frontman). I still think that at his peak he had the most beautiful male voice in rock\metal, and you can notice that in the album Rebirth by Angra. I know you probably don't know him, but you can literally choose any concert after 2003 that you can find on youtube and compare to Rebirth or Rebirth World Tour recordings to see how bad things got over the years, Rock in Rio 2011 being the lowest point of his career. He did record a new live concert in 2019 but people debate regarding it being edited on post, I do think you will be interested in his high notes at the end of "The Shadow Hunter", and how his "Nova Era" and "Rebirth" from the "Temple of Shadows in Concert" DVD compares to the performances in "Rebirth World Tour" DVD.
@Jamestele1
@Jamestele1 2 года назад
I will drink more wine, before it's time.
@LiMuBai
@LiMuBai Год назад
What? the muted sections ruined this video
@Metallex
@Metallex 2 года назад
What's interesting about the Prayer chorus is that the "woah-oh!" part was recorded at a lower pitch and slower, and then speed up which increased the pitch to match the song. That note certainly didn't help, but I'm going to with another note that killed his voice - the scream at the end of Living In Sin. Afaik the highest note he ever went for, repeating that on the tour where we know he start to take steroid shots in his vocal cords would have done a lot of damage.
@AstroThree
@AstroThree 2 года назад
Are you referring to every “woah” or just the last chorus. Also may I ask where you heard this? I just googled to no avail any info on this
@Metallex
@Metallex 2 года назад
@@AstroThree I found it on a producers/musicians forum years ago by someone from the scene at the time. If I can find it, I will absolutely post it because I realise it's big claim to make.
@Brian-zc2ip
@Brian-zc2ip 2 года назад
@@Metallex please do. I've used that technique myself with analogy multitrack. Just slow the tape enough to drop the track maybe a 1/4 step while recording that difficult high note. Tough call to make but if that's all that's standing in the way from a finished song. Still nothing like the shameless auto tuning that goes on today.
@reakchaos
@reakchaos 2 года назад
Im pretty sure that's not true, i've heard from other RU-vidrs saying otherwise and how it would just mess up the sound.
@AstroThree
@AstroThree 2 года назад
@@reakchaos It's not unfathomable but I'm leaning towards your notion. And the onus is on the ones making the claim to provide evidence. Otherwise it's just one person on a random forum
@loughrey101
@loughrey101 2 года назад
That didn't kill his voice because he only sung that high extremely rarely. You'd have to do that all the time to cause permanent damage. His voice is damaged due to him having no proper technique in general and all his songs being played at a high key that's stretching his vocal limit. All his songs were performed at a high key and tips out great strain on his voice because he had no technique, he never had any professional vocal coaching. I was told by Elvis' friends, when I asked them about Elvis singing at higher ranges later in his career when I met them back in 2013 and they told me Elvis was very concerned about how he was singing and would have vocal coaches in the 1960s coming to his house all the time to help him develop a safe technique to hit the limits of his baritone range safely. Bon Jovi, like Meat Loaf, never took professional help from vocal coaches and that's why he lost his voice. Very few famous singers back then hired professional vocal coaching and that's why they lost their voice. These days singers are more aware of the importance of proper technique. Bon Jovi would have lost his voice even if Livin on a Prayer was never written. He went down the same path as Meat Loaf, although Meat Loaf's touring was 4 times more gruelling than Bon Jovi's but both of them had no technique and stretched their ranges to the limit.
@MarioBohorquezE
@MarioBohorquezE 2 года назад
Nobody has toured like Bon Jovi did in the 80s to mid 90s
@jesurenbnb
@jesurenbnb Год назад
Atleast he is recovering his voice
@gatt2b
@gatt2b 2 года назад
One more thing if you want to see what singing proper all your life ( nothing against Jon by no means ) check out Aldo Nova Jon"s long time friend at 65 he's still killing it because of technique Aldo is a under rated artist with as much or more talent than most he definitely needs more recognition
@_jm0n3y8oo_
@_jm0n3y8oo_ 2 года назад
The note on I’ll be there for you is what killed his voice and he could rarely perform
@smp_legendary4421
@smp_legendary4421 9 месяцев назад
Does anyone else notice that the lives perfomances he showed are keyed higher?? Not sure why Jon was doing that since the song was already ridiculously high. I wonder if he was trying to show off because its all a half step higher.
@cletuspoirier2562
@cletuspoirier2562 2 года назад
It would ve great if you could do some Chuck Schuldiner videos, he had an amazing voice, even tho it shifted a lot towards the end of his career
@Nikomasterair
@Nikomasterair 2 года назад
Funny fact. I lost my voice while I was singing this. The high parts I hit ok but after the guitar solo my voice was gone. Then I searched on RU-vid what to do against losing the voice mid song and came here to find out that those high notes were damaging to JBJ
@mirfangu
@mirfangu 2 года назад
i remember mariah carey's voice damaged after she recorded a song called Emotions.
@fartdonkey8290
@fartdonkey8290 8 месяцев назад
I like hearing him sing leavin on a preeyuh
@christianboddum8783
@christianboddum8783 2 года назад
A voice changes with age, if you force it to stay in one place you will hurt or destroy it, you must works withe the natural changes. A falsetto wouldn't sound as potent but that could be the technical solution.
@AngelClover
@AngelClover Год назад
Great video except for the muting out of the notes your talking about which makes the video pointless.
@slipperstone3262
@slipperstone3262 Год назад
Damn i cant hear the sounds of bonjovi
@angiev1840
@angiev1840 2 года назад
Steve Perry damaged his voice from singing those power high notes every night for many years. Over touring did it to him. Jon has had other issues. I can't imagine how hard it is to hit some of those notes.
@kasie680
@kasie680 Год назад
It would help if you could hear the song
@larissanascimento1035
@larissanascimento1035 Год назад
I thought that the song that most damaged his voice was not this one but "Let's Make it Baby" where he sends out several G6s and a G#6...in Whistle...👀
@zhelyazkopetkov8211
@zhelyazkopetkov8211 5 месяцев назад
That makes no sense. They never performed it live, Jon most definitely sung all his parts in the studio and forgot all about the song in about a week
@Cieran-Anderton-Balek
@Cieran-Anderton-Balek 2 года назад
Oh wow 😳
@eddie-qz5fv
@eddie-qz5fv 2 года назад
Bruce Dickinson still going strong..
@lindsaykelly2224
@lindsaykelly2224 2 года назад
Man I knew that note would snap a chord there's lots of speculation but Jon will let us know when he's ready to let us know
@victorabadia9700
@victorabadia9700 2 года назад
I Agree.
@jacob.brandw
@jacob.brandw 2 года назад
Don’t care, sing your heart out
@jaggass
@jaggass Год назад
I still see Livin On A Prayer as the song that killed his voice.
@easygolucky30OFFICIAL
@easygolucky30OFFICIAL 2 года назад
If I could have a Voice like JBJ I would but a ladder so I can hit those notes higher than ever.
@sebbyplayz0049
@sebbyplayz0049 2 года назад
John also admitted to injecting steroids into his throat to help him hit those higher notes. Whilst that helped at the time, it was damaging his throat for later down in his future, meaning he wouldn’t be able to hit those high notes anymore
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