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This Overlord Drop Rush Is Actually Broken... (Zerg Cheese to GM #11) 

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@Soulless_Elf
@Soulless_Elf 10 месяцев назад
19:26 thats not a double evo thats a quadruple evo XDXD upd: well, he noticed)
@James-mb3je
@James-mb3je 10 месяцев назад
I paused, glad he noticed. Builds 3 evo's, kills 1 then goes double evo 😂😂
@CommieCat
@CommieCat 10 месяцев назад
Wall evos don't count as evos XD
@Ayrinth
@Ayrinth 10 месяцев назад
@@James-mb3je Sounds like a math challenge. Marc has 3 evos. Marc kills one and then build 2 more. How many evos does Marc have? 4? Good answer, but look at all the dying drones in your main base.
@f_c_k_o_f_f
@f_c_k_o_f_f 10 месяцев назад
Maximum Creep to Grandmaster, should be a new challenge series. It might teach you to spread creep better, giving you muscle memory for it. I think it would also make you look at the game in a different way and open up new cheese options in general.
@Bortscht
@Bortscht 10 месяцев назад
5base gasless + Queens & Drones
@Lost7one
@Lost7one 10 месяцев назад
Incredibly boring
@Heeebstah
@Heeebstah 10 месяцев назад
@@Lost7oneyeah that would be the only idea I wouldn’t wanna watch
@harleyphillips8434
@harleyphillips8434 10 месяцев назад
I agree it might be kinda boring by itself. But it would make thermy way better at Zerg. He’s playing one handed at this point, and look at what he can already do! Imagine if this aesthetic distaste didn’t hold him back. I’d happily accept a maximum creep series, if only for the fact that it would improve every subsequent (particularly Zerg) series. I mean we’ve literally seen thermy spine crawler rush in a video once, think to himself out loud “nah I’m not gonna place down a creep tumor” and then lose because he tried to uproot and reburrow the spines but there wasn’t enough creep lmao. It has cost him directly like this and indirectly many times. It’s a huge hole in his gameplay ngl
@AcousticGuitar423
@AcousticGuitar423 10 месяцев назад
I no longer play SC but I do enjoy watching you play. Love the Z game. Thanks for the content mate.
@adamhenrie3879
@adamhenrie3879 10 месяцев назад
You should start playing again 😉
@GrackAlaciN
@GrackAlaciN 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, same. I sometimes consider going back, but I think it would be to much work to not suck completely.
@Togotzi
@Togotzi 10 месяцев назад
Zerg is a favorite of mine!
@stephendalton2024
@stephendalton2024 10 месяцев назад
Same! You should definitely compete again mate 👍
@kulina571
@kulina571 10 месяцев назад
Well I'm over 40 now and I still play so you should too :)
@damandred1350
@damandred1350 10 месяцев назад
19:25 „I do think it would be smart for me to go double evo” Makes 2 new evos behind the 2 evo-wall. Love it! :D
@Supergoon1989
@Supergoon1989 10 месяцев назад
9:20 literally the very last hydra spine attack caused the kill. it died as it was doing the attack. Amazing!
@TB-gd7pw
@TB-gd7pw 10 месяцев назад
I had to watch that clip on 0.25 speed to see the hydra. Thermals voice on slow was hillarious lmao
@pevigom
@pevigom 10 месяцев назад
@@TB-gd7pw Why ! Why was I so curious to try that 0,25 speed xD i laughed so hard
@calizarbalamb9052
@calizarbalamb9052 10 месяцев назад
i VERY rarely ever comment on anything but i keep watching your videos with great interest, i hope you will continue for a long time and i very much appreciate having the chance to watch your fun and engaging uploads, you give a whole new twist to the fans of starcraft like none other have.
@lickenchicken143
@lickenchicken143 10 месяцев назад
guys the fourth evo is to evolve the cheese.
@Leeroy49
@Leeroy49 10 месяцев назад
Yes I immediately noticed the quad evo 😂
@EQE_AMG_Suchti
@EQE_AMG_Suchti 10 месяцев назад
Great build😂 Love the mutas! My dad always built mass mass mutas with a weird 6 Base into 60 Mutas at once😅
@DaRealDJ
@DaRealDJ 10 месяцев назад
5th dimensional play: Quadruple Evolution Chamber
@laurv8370
@laurv8370 10 месяцев назад
20:13 - the game where uThermal made 6 evo chambers LOL
@user-en8jv3co5f
@user-en8jv3co5f 10 месяцев назад
17:23 It's attack, you should always do attack upgrade when you play mutas on mytas, then armor, then attack again. In the rest scenarios armor better choice
@StpMakinMeChangMyNam
@StpMakinMeChangMyNam 10 месяцев назад
Hydra speed is far more important than the range upgrade. You should build speed first. This is coming from the recent Harstem video where Reynor coached him on Zerg, but it also just makes sense. Speed makes up for lower range by allowing you to get in range faster while also giving you the benefit of better positioning and faster re-enforcing across the map.
@eclipseeffigy
@eclipseeffigy 10 месяцев назад
Nice to see your Zerg play coming together more and more! 💪
@JasonAuger-gs4ve
@JasonAuger-gs4ve 10 месяцев назад
Love how you called your own gg when you sent those mutas in lol
@soulofshukaku
@soulofshukaku 10 месяцев назад
That game 2, you were like "I'm gonna make 2 evos" but i was like "you have 2! they are in the walloff!"
@Jargolf86
@Jargolf86 10 месяцев назад
More Love 4 Hydras
@JLKChee
@JLKChee 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the build :D I suck at reading and defending against mass BC and Carrier. With this I can deal some damage early on and throw terran/protoss off their usual build :D Just 16 lings rush the Terran, got single BCed which I manage to defend with minimal damage. Followed by 16 hydra drop :D at this point he all in with 4 BC, pulled all my drones and queen and mass hydra in base. Successfully defended and cleared off all his building. Now to use it against Protoss.
@hqout
@hqout 10 месяцев назад
Hey uThermal, can you try using an overlord to drop creep somewhere on the map to make a tech building (spire, hydra/lurker den, ultras, etc)? That way when they scout you, they'll have no idea what you're cheesing with.
@dragoslove
@dragoslove 10 месяцев назад
Proxy base to grandmaster?
@mariuskroll829
@mariuskroll829 10 месяцев назад
SC2 was my first PC game ever. I played befor HotS, but I suck at this game. But I watch every video or yours, you are a great entertainer
@DarylMetzler
@DarylMetzler 10 месяцев назад
thermy, boss. gotta say how awesome you describing your continuous decision-making during games is. love the content boss!
@the40yearoldgamer41
@the40yearoldgamer41 10 месяцев назад
Rush +1/0 hydras and deny the third or shove the natural. Very effective up to 4600 mmr and after that you ought to squeeze in a overseer scout to see what they are teching or massing. If you really want to shove the hydras you can make 2 overseers at the start of lair and use both to goop up their colossi factory while you are smashing their base... 1 colossi can not defend this.
@artemirrlazaris7406
@artemirrlazaris7406 10 месяцев назад
Droning, when you plan on only spending minerals doesn't make sense, 2 per node is optimal, which is 14... add two and can do a quick hatch and pool.. Either or first. Pool first into hatch... but you can go hatch into pool to get a delayed queen or no queen into ling to get useful units and maybe cathc your opponenets natural going up. As for your question. If your verse mutas incoming, and you can only make one choice its always armor, since the bounce/glaive attack, will get reduced 3 times. as it bounces around... typicalyl ends up at 6/1/1 or something or 7/1/1 depending on how high the armor value is... but if its ling verse ling, always attack. If your muta, its always air attack.. . mutats are super deadly, if you can get level 3 attack, as fast as possible, and hten pump out mutas, they will hit hard...
@dogabutila
@dogabutila 10 месяцев назад
I dont think the ling drop did that much, but it caused psychic damage to confuse him. Having a wall is good, but you need something to kill the things attacking the wall, but otherwise the games seemed really good!
@Hallenhero
@Hallenhero 10 месяцев назад
Marc, I have a giant folder full of just about every broodwar bound map. I would love to see your Bound skills.
@leafykille
@leafykille 10 месяцев назад
Hydras are surprisingly strong since the last patch, they micro like marines with a permanent half stim once they have speed, especially on creep, I'm surprised I haven't seen them used a lot more. If your micro is good enough you can also use droppers for hot pickup like a medivac.
@csantos2
@csantos2 10 месяцев назад
19:27 going double evo when you already have two finished evos as part of your wall. 😂
@Neceros
@Neceros 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad you are enjoying Zerg, the master race
@jujucasar2003
@jujucasar2003 10 месяцев назад
19:26 I know im not a starcraft expert but i was like arent those evos in front of ur natural?
@JoeMendez579
@JoeMendez579 10 месяцев назад
Te estas convirtiendo en el señor Miyagi de Starcraft.
@alexandru6747
@alexandru6747 10 месяцев назад
DO AN OVERLISK RUSH! Overlords+Ultralisk drop! Overlisk for the win!
@taoisttiger4702
@taoisttiger4702 10 месяцев назад
When i used to play SC BW i hated cheeze matches, but man watching it 3rd person is hilarious
@stkfr
@stkfr 10 месяцев назад
you can do the small ling drop into range hydra> block his entrance and kill his nearest buidling with range while very fast lurker adn eventually some lurker drops. It's somehow some old school broodwar rush lmao
@mattronin2647
@mattronin2647 9 месяцев назад
I laughed when you dropped another 2 evo chambers xD... With the one you cancelled, that's basically 5 evo chambers in one game haha.
@Foggen
@Foggen 10 месяцев назад
Hydras are the classic, glad to see them make an appearance.
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 10 месяцев назад
I need 2 evos (already has 2 evos) 🤣
@Iseenoobpeoples
@Iseenoobpeoples 10 месяцев назад
Bounces killing drones at the end XD
@q-marit
@q-marit 10 месяцев назад
I love it when u play Zerg 🔥☠️
@Ayrinth
@Ayrinth 10 месяцев назад
I love how the double evo in the second game was actually a quadruple evo, as he literally had still 2 evos in the wall :D
@GameCinematics
@GameCinematics 10 месяцев назад
The quadruple Evo build is way to strong ;)
@AC3handle
@AC3handle 10 месяцев назад
I thought the first guy would get at least one other void ray going and then start harrassing your mineral line, but he stuck at home instead, while you just chugged away with the drones. That seems to be the big thing people don't do enough against you.
@notcrazy6288
@notcrazy6288 10 месяцев назад
To play like Marc, build 4 evos after killing one. Secret key to success.
@JoeMendez579
@JoeMendez579 10 месяцев назад
cinco evolution chamber cheese Love it you rock Marco
@elricdotah
@elricdotah 10 месяцев назад
The ling drop forced him to make lings and then he counter attacks. Make a spine behind the wall and you're good. I think this is a good opening for Mutas.
@kshibby43
@kshibby43 10 месяцев назад
Ooooh real challenge for you. Can’t attack off of creep. I don’t know if therms could do it ;)
@EDDIXspider
@EDDIXspider 10 месяцев назад
It's such a fun when i watch your games. Befor your video I watch some Seral games,(finals) suck a bordom.
@jhonon1
@jhonon1 10 месяцев назад
Have you considered taking the dropperlords home after the attack, and using them to evac drones if the ling-flood gets in?
@pattertatter
@pattertatter 10 месяцев назад
If I copy, do I need 5 evo's or is 4 enough?
@user-jm2sq4of2p
@user-jm2sq4of2p 10 месяцев назад
At the moment I saw you build the third(fourth actually) and fourth Evo chamber, I was in MRT, and I dropped my jaw. And I start to wait how long will you take to figure it out
@KarnageDon
@KarnageDon 10 месяцев назад
I love your videos, but lately i have a small personal issue: At this point some games don't feel that cheesy as the followups work so good, it feels like a decent build!! 😂
@hurtmegreatly4357
@hurtmegreatly4357 10 месяцев назад
You mean quadruple evo? lol @19:25
@yorkiepud5111
@yorkiepud5111 10 месяцев назад
Loving this series, double / triple overlord lingbane at 4 mins are disgusting
@jonathansaxton9954
@jonathansaxton9954 10 месяцев назад
I'd love a Muta Infestor rush series
@destonwong2577
@destonwong2577 10 месяцев назад
Zerg is the strongest race. If you don't stop them early mid game then it's kinda tough to beat them as they rebuild so fast.
@TylerInTraining
@TylerInTraining 10 месяцев назад
I've always said that Zerg is the hardest race to master, but the most rewarding if you do. Every race is fun in their own way but something about Zerg just feels good to play - it makes up for the fact that they don't get the funny lines that the other two races do. haha
@thomaschevrierlaliberte5884
@thomaschevrierlaliberte5884 10 месяцев назад
Watching this video made me decide to go for a cheesecake.
@bekasiblis9540
@bekasiblis9540 10 месяцев назад
Every cheeses are supposed to be broken if it succeed, what else people did the cheese for anyway? to get balance match later? to let the opponent just sit on the base doing zero scout?
@kwood6013
@kwood6013 10 месяцев назад
Ling drop into fast Muta is the best so far
@eiderpinheiro
@eiderpinheiro 10 месяцев назад
Great content Mark, i dont play SC, but its possible do a challenge like HIDDEN BASE, Just for mineral and gas, or every player scout all the map every match? Thanks for daily uploads.
@sebastianmolina9943
@sebastianmolina9943 10 месяцев назад
it would be suspicious if he didnt have a second base, specially as Zerg. Which would prompt the other player to scout and look for it. At least in the level he plays.
@eiderpinheiro
@eiderpinheiro 10 месяцев назад
@@sebastianmolina9943 ok its true, Maybe works only if He plays very greedy, but Will lost time to attack
@sebastianmolina9943
@sebastianmolina9943 10 месяцев назад
@@eiderpinheiro i wouldnt know. I bearly grasp terran play. But it would be weird. If youre interested check out his "Bongcloud" series in which he flies his cc to the third base just at the begginng of the game.
@SamtasticOnline
@SamtasticOnline 10 месяцев назад
Builds 4 evo chambers, doesn't start researching any upgrades.
@canadianbutt275
@canadianbutt275 10 месяцев назад
coolest SC2 player ever.
@DarylMetzler
@DarylMetzler 10 месяцев назад
oh sh!t! thermy going full meomika
@mintcrystalsanimatio
@mintcrystalsanimatio 10 месяцев назад
yay 100k subs
@minn5459
@minn5459 10 месяцев назад
Proxy yoink SCV/probe to build a zombified army 🧠
@shredderdemon3252
@shredderdemon3252 10 месяцев назад
I would love to see your keyboard inputs
@spectralace314
@spectralace314 8 месяцев назад
Ah yes, 6 evos in 8 minutes. The absolute best use of resources. 😂
@svengalt9546
@svengalt9546 10 месяцев назад
Wow, two ZvZs with zero banes made AND they are about to get a massive nerf. I wonder what this mirror will look like after that.
@vladislavkerdyashkin9120
@vladislavkerdyashkin9120 10 месяцев назад
I suggest you a new challange. You play zerg, you play any strategy you like, but you can finish the game only when at least half of the map is covered by your creep :D. If you think your attack can finish the opponent off, then you spread creep and wait for the final attack :D
@vladislavkerdyashkin9120
@vladislavkerdyashkin9120 10 месяцев назад
might as well call it creep to GM
@Secre.SwallowtailYT
@Secre.SwallowtailYT 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes, mass hydra rush, standard gameplay.
@jordanlicht1601
@jordanlicht1601 10 месяцев назад
Have u every tried to rush a hydra drop?? With defensive spine and spore crawlers??
@mrstepsss
@mrstepsss 10 месяцев назад
can you try burrow baneling and lurkers?
@tank371
@tank371 10 месяцев назад
i alwais was in silwer and now i in gold1! thx 4 u! hi from Medoed chanal
@MrCasperiam
@MrCasperiam 10 месяцев назад
youre pretty cool
@WMrFamous
@WMrFamous 10 месяцев назад
I would absolutely love a Terran Tank and Turret to GrandMaster series!!
@dyg107
@dyg107 10 месяцев назад
How much creep spread do we expect from you? Scarlett level creep spread to be honest.
@sloanNYC
@sloanNYC 10 месяцев назад
I need double EVO for my double EVO!
@atutor1
@atutor1 9 месяцев назад
quad evo nice!
@dmicsa
@dmicsa 10 месяцев назад
Marc can u please do 3..4 drones one on top others and build a hatchery in a big base and buid some spines. Could be fun.
@bowenjones6462
@bowenjones6462 10 месяцев назад
4 Evo chambers, the new meta.
@trenthansen3950
@trenthansen3950 10 месяцев назад
this makes me want to play zerg again
@anderandersson5229
@anderandersson5229 10 месяцев назад
Well played 😊
@meeshuSC2
@meeshuSC2 10 месяцев назад
Genius 4 evo strat against zerg (we noticed :D )
@artemirrlazaris7406
@artemirrlazaris7406 10 месяцев назад
Cheese Backwards is Eseehc (silent c)
@SomeOneElsePirskap
@SomeOneElsePirskap 10 месяцев назад
4 evo strategy. 146% genious!
@craig4811
@craig4811 10 месяцев назад
Let's go!
@HansNussbaum
@HansNussbaum 10 месяцев назад
First game looks like meomaika
@MrBigjoecincy
@MrBigjoecincy 10 месяцев назад
I was wondering why you were building so many evos haha
@Tsnafu
@Tsnafu 10 месяцев назад
Random barcode to 7k? 😮
@Supergoon1989
@Supergoon1989 10 месяцев назад
ooh, a broodwar style ZvZ, very nice!
@smallwisdom8819
@smallwisdom8819 10 месяцев назад
and hydra all in vs protoss, 3 base hydra all in into macro game incomin'?
@suunraze
@suunraze 10 месяцев назад
Does 4 bases before gas count as "zerg cheese?"
@lolableDude
@lolableDude 10 месяцев назад
The classic 5 evo chambers no upgrades
@galaxeon797
@galaxeon797 10 месяцев назад
watching Termy makes you think that some units are good... they are good in his hands, don't be fooled xD hydras can't do what he've done with them xD
@MrMcSnuffyFluffy
@MrMcSnuffyFluffy 10 месяцев назад
4 evo rush to GM.
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles 10 месяцев назад
Why do I have a feeling that Uthermal accounts for at least 20% of all dropper lord upgrades on the ladder?
@cellardoor70
@cellardoor70 10 месяцев назад
Skyzerg to GM!
@Xelnarash
@Xelnarash 10 месяцев назад
uthermal licked blood
@TrollSuperStar
@TrollSuperStar 10 месяцев назад
For the memes and the mind games, you could change your name to make them think you're a macro player ... like MacroGod or something.
@Kirk.television
@Kirk.television 10 месяцев назад
Let's go
@alexandru6747
@alexandru6747 10 месяцев назад
Overklonk good
@Earsex4life
@Earsex4life 10 месяцев назад
I actually having a good time vs Terran with this.
@0vermind333
@0vermind333 10 месяцев назад
Double evos? Why. You have 2 in wall, 4 total
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