This Painting Will Make You Cringe 

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I think you may have this wrong. IMO, he's an opportunist or grifter, who's trying to take advantage of her economically. Based on how he's dressed, he's either a businessman or an attorney attempting to separate her from her inheritance, which is far worse than you're suggesting. A masher can be of any station in life, why make this man affluent? Why make him a businessman? The evidence that the artist is making it a point to inform the audience that she is vulnerable to the man's shady business dealings is that the artists included the man's shoulder strap of a briefcase @5:20. The man is conducting business on the train, he's not just some affluent masher. And the look on his face appears to suggest, he's trying to make his offer look positive... he looks cheerful, as if he's seeing dollar signs. He's clearly no smiling at her welcoming his advances. One other thing that is somewhat dark, there was an ongoing dislike and distrust of Jewish attorneys in Germany. In fact leading up to WWII there was a purge of Jewish attorneys. This man does not look Aryan; he appears more likely to be ethnic. While it's not a full out bigoted trope, it certainly could be seen as such. Germany was rife with antisemitism throughout the 19th century. And for that matter, Berthold Woltze may have harbored antisemitic sentiments and expressing either a dislike of Jewish business men, or embodying them as mashers, which would each fulfill that end to marginalize them. Berthold Woltze choice to depict the man as ethnic looking, at minimum, should be questioned. Think of how Trump referred to Mexicans as murderers, drug dealers, and rapists. Look up a graphic image of the time: No 44 le Baron James Musee des Horreurs, which was a Jewish trope. Here's the problem with assuming the interaction is simply one of sexually inappropriateness, in the American puritanical perspective we're indoctrinated to think of sexual misconduct as the worst we can expect from men, and thus it's the first suspicion we have. But in truth, stealing her means of support could leave her penniless and vulnerable to all the terrible things in life. Orphaned children were victimized by shady business practices back then, and that has not changed. And while it may be cynical to paint with a wider brush, today we see corporations using lobbyists to lower or completely eliminate their tax burden. We're indoctrinated to think of sexual misconduct as wrong, (although it's a crime for the poor, while the affluent regularly got away with it), and getting out of paying taxes as shrewd, when in fact shady business practices ruin lives and places unfair burdens on the working class. Love your channel.

still images - like paintings and photographs - can so very easily be taken out of context. the immediate feeling about the woltze picture is simply an irritating man with a cigar and pince-nez harassing a beautiful young woman in mourning. however, he might have, very easily, heard the girl's sobs and is trying to cheer her up ... the next picture, seconds later, could very easily be the girl dabbing her tears away with the beginnings of a smile ... (i'm an eternal optimist). in reality, if, in the next picture things were getting out of hand, i believe every Person on the train would come to her aid. thanks #arthistory for showing an artwork so filled with emotion.

Please pronounce Van Gogh as "Van Goke or Hoke" and definitely not Van Go.

I think that we can assume that "kisses" weren't the only thing that these creeps were going for.

Wow, so chivalry isn't dead, it was never alive

@@megeles Love this quote

@@megeles Chivalry only ever existed in fiction. It's one of those stories we tell ourselves to make us feel better but which isn't true. If we had more literature written by women from these times, it would tell a very different tale.

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🎉🎉👏applaud you sister

So sorry that no one was there to help or comfort you.

👏👏 well done.. 😂

emojis is not what I expected as a reaction for a kidnapping

I think that person is reacting to person taste like chicken

“I’m a nice guy, I promise!”

I’ll bet my $4 because I’m broke, but yeah. The painting is so sad and meaningful.

Too many of us have this sort of experience, at all ages, in all time periods. "Shameful" is exactly the right word.

I left school at 12 and went back at 18 ..i had never got any ahrassment before but the minute i was in a uniform every bin man milk man delivery guy in the morning started leching at me...i would never send a girl out in the porn outfit that is a schoolgirl uniform. Its literallt only ever seen in porn all the time. Why do we put girls in a porno outfit?

@@Padraigp Two words: "celibate" priests.

I was riding my bike at age 7 and a man yelled at me to come to him and was running towards me. I rode home as fast as i could. Even being a young boy, I was allowed to roam the city and nothing scared me more than grown men.

Yes. The same happened to me when I turned 14. The car thing, too. Nothing is more terrifying for a young woman, than a man creep up in his car and follow closely behind her on the sidewalk. I seriously thought I was going to be trafficked.

Matters got worse for women around this period. A well-wielded hatpin could wreak serious damage on men. So a law was passed limiting the length of the hatpin. This is typical. Women are allowed to defend themselves against men but only up to a point. Think of today, when assaults against women are followed by advice to potential victims: walk in pairs, don't go out on dark nights alone, stay away from solitary, dark places, etc. There's rarely talk to the men about behaving with decency towards women or advice given to a woman to bear arms that might keep a man at bay, like a knife or a gun. It reminds me of an episode on the cable show "Impulse". A girl who's already been sexually assaulted tries to get hold of a deer-skinning knife. But the proprietor is suspicious of her reasons. When she admits it's for defense, he refuses to sell her one, claiming a "good" girl like her wouldn't need it. He gives her a rape whistle instead.

Totally. Now that you've said it, there's this vibe (given the girl's age) that she's never had to defend herself yet. Maybe the person she's mourning was always there to look after her? Now she's looking at us and realizing we're not doing anything thing, and that she's going to have to work up the nerve to stab the guy herself. Yet she seems more scared than resentful...

Men can be such pigs. 🎃

I read the painting in a very similar way. Although it could be that the girl is being trafficked somehow, a very unhelpful "adoptive Uncle" trying to beguile her or portray pleasantries under false pretences. It's an uncomfortable painting to see. I still remember being on the train at 22, going to see my deceased brother in the funeral home, returning to my grieving family, and a man telling me I "should smile more". I felt so much pain and hatred in my heart in that moment. Thankfully, I only used words, and walked away.

That being told to smile at a very low point in life is so painful. It’s always obnoxious to be told to smile but after a tragedy it’s especially galling. I had this happen while accompanying a friend on the subway to go to the doctor the day after she was sexually assaulted & naturally we were not smiling. I just told the man to leave us alone and of course he had say stupid and vile things in reply. Then years later online I was trying to explain to “well meaning” guys why they shouldn’t tell women to smile that we never like it, it’s always rude, and if you do this all the time it’s quite likely you’ve harassed the victim of a violent crime without knowing so please just stop. The “well meaning” guy started to do some math about what he thought was the probability he’d harassed a victim of assault on her way to a doctor’s appointment and it was actually not all that high.

It's a good deal worse today. Women have lost so many rights in the name of inclusively and gender ideology. We cannot even define what a woman is without offending someone.

"Nothing is new under the sun." Ecclesiastes.

That's because men aren't raised as women, they're not taught from young age that you ARE NOT allowed to touch strangers, ARE NOT allowed to harass people, that no matter how much you like someone pushing yourself onto that person ISN'T GOOD ! Men are simply not raised, they're allowed to give in into their instincts and are not disciplined in many many cultures like women. This will happen until people realise that both sexes should be raised in asa.e manner. You'd have a healthy society with better manners and upbringing, skills and respect for one another. Until then we'd sit and see this behaviour being "excused", "explained" and a lot of "advices given" to women on how "not to be assaulted "..... pathetic world...

There's an interesting implied hope/expectation when you say "still so present". It contrasts the current state from one that should be (by "now"). But as we see in the painting, people (i.e. the artist) where fully aware that this masher behavior was harmful back then. Just as we are aware of it now. Is there any real reason to think that some future holds a world where these behaviours aren't common? Is that wishful thinking or based on some noticable trajectory?

What is a woman?

And their rights are being taken away again by men who enter the girls' bathrooms

It seems like back then and not that long ago, the man's experience was more important. Women had to be pretty, a man could be any size or shape it didn't matter. And we all know the names given if we didn't give it up. Ice queen, frigid, uptight, etc. Why do you think they used to sacrifice virgins in the olden days?

@@nicelydone9776 In so many places it still hasn't changed. My grandma gave me a hat pin, and it never occurred to me if that might be why until today.

Yup, and god forbid you try to assert yourself to get it to stop, cuz then 90% of guys will say YOU'RE the bad guy.

*woman

Yes.🤮

😷

Her vulnerability. That's not sexual interest, that's victim-seeking.

the white handkerchief is purity and also surrender, placed underneath the coin purse, which symbolises the "treasure" the man is after.

And, I think significantly, his cigar is hanging right over her bag and handkerchief, putting her purity in danger of being marred by his filth.

Ooo! Devious! That's a terrifyingly probable observation.

The cigar is directly above the flower image on her bag, he is holding his penis with that. The smoke and the shadow signifies danger, danger for her and potential danger for him. The ash on her flower is he putting dirt on her. He's an old !!!!

well then- very interesting observation heh, I'll be tempted to grab that fat cigar from his grimy hand and shove it up his nose

to be honest i’m seeing more observations in the comment section than the creator itself

omg!

@Flynn The Hot Rider Hats were still in style.

@Flynn The Hot Rider What? Of course hats were still in style

@Flynn The Hot Rider Might not NEED it, per say, but might still use one because some smaller, fashionable hats did need help to stay in place.

@Flynn The Hot Rider No need to be rude. They still could've wore/hidden pins in their hats, taking into consideration they were aware they could use the hat pin as self defense.

@Flynn The Hot Rider were you there??? My great great grandmother wore a corset up until the 1960s. Many people from traditional rural areas kept older styles of dress. Chill out.

It makes me seriously wonder if the artist wasn't drawing from memory.

I think you're spot on. As I was reading your comment, I was reminded of the film "Promising Young Woman" which is an indictment of us all, and so is this painting. She is looking directly at us, the audience, reminding us that our failure to do more is the reason she has to resort to violence.

or the girl is stareing at us because we represent as her parents or an older sibling. that came with her for the funeral, and they are not doing anything to stop the harassment

Yes. Like "help, I'm twelve, help me deal with this" but no one says a thing.

"help i think this man is a child predator" "I'm just here for the cupcakes" 200 years never changes

Oh trust me I'm sure she remembers you. That simple act can literally be the difference between life and death. Some cowardly guys may call it being a "simp" but I think most women are just thankful!

Most of the people that use simp unironically are bitter guys who've never had a positive interaction with a woman.

Nah, that's still being a gentleman. People who'd say you were a simp are just incels lol

How did she look like?

That's being a hero, not a simp. Sucks to be the people who called you a simp. Cringing at the thought of helping people or others helping others is evil itself.

😡😔

yeah :(

Unfortunately yes.

You’re right. I recognize the pain in her eyes

@Betsy no honey, no

Good story .!

:O good job defending yourself and speaking out!

thats awful that it happened but good on you for speaking out! I've been prayed on s3xually for almost my entire life, and I've never managed to speak out in the moment. I'm a very timid person unfortunately.

You're so brave if i experienced the same thing i would be just like this young girl looking for help

Good job my (wo)man! As a girl myself, who's a minor, if i was in that situation i couldnt have done that.. i honestly get scared sometimes becz i really just let people use me But thank god i havent faced such a thing yet, i know i need to learn to defend myself but i just cant. :c

This! After Lear ING about the hat pin, she no longer looks scared but very determined, in that case, it also feels like the black dress represents the loss of her innocence I mean, here she is a young girl , realizing how horrible some people can be, and to decide to take action to protect herself involves having to realize that some people are going to try and do harm to you not caring if you are in pain or anything, that help is not coming, that you have to do something, you will need to harm someone in other to protect yourself prom even possible death, and if you were a kind young woman the idea of "harming" someone can be hard to accept even if it's on your defense. So here I think is that eccact moment, when she realizes she has to take major action against someone to protect herself, she is mourning so she is pretty aware of how bad things can go to if things go bath, she is decided to fight for her life, her face doesn't show the signs of someone deeply crying because here she has stopped, her look shows determination, all her thoughts and actions are focused on that very moment and one choice, to protect herself.

It's almost like she's saying that it shouldn't be like this but it is.

My late grandmother (born in 1917) once told us a story of being followed home from work one night. She only escaped by smacking him in the face with the door when he tried to corner her...at the font door to her house! This would have been in the early 1930s...

Yep a child of r$pe. So sad.

Its just a painting. The fact is, a young girl, and even most women, wouldnt be traveling alone. They would have had a chaperone. Theres no way this would have happened in real life to a girl that young because the girl would have an older woman accompany her. This older woman would have told him to bug off. And while there were men who did this, the fact is it wasnt actually that prevalent. The media, like today, liked to blow things out of proportion. In this case, it was to scar women away from traveling alone.

@@carolallison9685 women were supposed to have a chaperone _in theory,_ but they all weren’t constantly supervised all the time…that’s just not realistic. Also, being with other women does not guarantee safety, these types of men simply don’t listen when they’re told to go away. I’m sure _most_ men weren’t this bad, just like most men aren’t today, but if Victorian newspapers were willing to mention “taboo” topics openly, it’s probably safe to assume they had a problem. The fact it also got a well-known slang term speaks volumes.

@@lila2986 Want to upset men? Tell them women ARE born into a war zone.

and possibly have you join whoever you're mourning if they're bad enough.

Unfortunately, it's not really something that many have to imagine.

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So many speculations. Imagine him say: "miss, are you crying? Do you need a handkerchief?"

@@cetterus Yes, I am sure that's exactly what it looks like and what the painter intended. Y'all wouldn't know obvious if it slapped you in the face. You would just say "maybe they were just trying to pat my cheek and comfort me and didn't know their own strength"

No. But, at least in America, they can and are supposed to be able to be carrying guns, pepper spray, pocket knives, or other weapons of self defense. Except laws are being made to make that increasingly more challenging. Maybe everyone here is Canadian and English or something, but I feel like that's the elephant in the room. I'm a young American woman, but haven't had many unprovoked stares or comments in my life. If it became a common problem for me though, I'd see what I could do to get a handgun. Men are stronger than women, but no one is stronger than a gun. Be assertive, tell a man to back off. Tell him to stop staring. Prepare for the pushback with mace, a knife, or a gun. If men learn women are a force to be reckoned with, they won't mess with them so much

@@umbrellathegreatdetective5423 Don't forget the fact that men are allowed in the girls' bathrooms.

I carry a pocket knife whenever I go outside. I don't trust people to control themselves.

I was in Asia and when we were young, we wore what kids wore, skirts, tanktops and there were weirdos "flirting" us (me, my friends, siblings) it was s3xual harassment now I know there's the word for it. These vile people made me wear thick, figure-flattening clothes as I grew up. The harassment decreased when I wore frumpier clothes. It is a sad world, in one way, where women can't go out without wearing something comfortable because there's men out there who couldn't control himself and turned on by women's bodies. It's annoying as hell. However, nowadays, I decided to wear whatever I want. These men who can't control themselves can go to hell.

The statistics show men are attacked & killed far more than women, alone or not! Men used to come to the defense of women but thanks to ideologies like 3rd wave feminism & the me too crap a man can lose everything just for trying to help, who's gonna risk that for a stranger? I probably still would cos I'd just see my mother, sister or daughter but you can't blame men these days for not getting involved. We're f**ked if we do, cowards if we dont. What a time to be alive 🤡

These kind of statements are why people think that there's a "rape culture" when there isn't. It happens don't get me wrong I'm not saying it doesn't, but it's not as wide spread as people made it seem, especially nowadays. The other fact that people don't mention is it's not really safe for anyone to travel alone, but men traveling alone who fucking cares am I right?

It's funny how when I was a young teenager I was constantly harassed on trains. It stopped when I reached my 20s. These men are disgusting

*girls was sad because her cat died, nice gentlemen tried to cheer her up*

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I didn't notice that. Thanks for the information, I will pay attention to it.😂

NO WAAAY that’s actually an awesome piece of info!!

Granny was always one of my favorite characters. Reminded me of my own Gram.

awesome comment!!

She solved two problems at once

That's horrible and scary. So sorry you experienced that.

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@@Houseproudasamotherhen yup. All of them. Always

Something similar happened to my cousin years ago, but she was always kinda strict and measured. When a man who sat opposite to her flashed his wares she started to laugh immediately. Man left his seat in in very next tenth of second... There have always been plenty of deviants and those who love to expose themselves on public places (like pride marches for instance), they all poor deviants just hate the laughter.

@@danender5555 That is what Shirley Temple did also.

They both sound like awesome ladies!

Your granny was a vicious badass lmao

*girls was sad because her cat died, nice gentlemen tried to cheer her up*

she beat a kid? bruh

@@ellux2415 And he beat her child so wdgaf

Interesting to hear, thank you for telling!

What an interesting authentic treasure

That "pin" is a veritable dagger, and 12" is nearly long enough for a short sword!

I don't think that was for self defence wink wink sorry

Grandma out there sword fighting men with her hat pin

Why are you sexually shaming the man? Does expressing male sexual interest automatically mean that it is evil? Being openly sexual should never be shamed with words like "lecherous".

@@ColinTherac117 She is a CHILD likely younger than 16, and even if she wasn't she's clearly uncomfortable and mourning. He shouldn't be "expressing male sexual interest" to her in the first place. His complete lack of empathy, his predatory behaviour and being a pedophile is what makes him evil.

@@ColinTherac117 Lecherous means: having or showing excessive or offensive sexual desire.

@@ColinTherac117 bro.. ☠️

@@ColinTherac117 There is nothing wrong with expressing sexual interest. But targeting it at a stranger without their consent, and in the case of the painting, someone who is underage and in mourning is disgusting and deserved to be at minimum shamed.

Oof. Good on you. Most women have been in a situation like that at one point, so most of us would help out a fellow traveller trying to avoid a creep.

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@Gi Gi many idealize previous eras, ignoring how women, minorities, children, marginal groups were (mis) treated; and still, today..

@@ukestudio3002 Yes.😔

@Gi Gi Yes,😔

Unfortunately, society decides what's right or wrong and depending on the time and place, there's bound to be differences. It's quite interesting how people are reading this piece of art today and I'd probably find it interesting to compare how it is read today vs around the time it was made. Surely there are differences.

this do be society moment, keep lying to yourselves, every single person in my life in a position of power has been a woman.

Yeah, I was assuming he was a procurer. I really hope the son of a bitch is just a masher, and she doesn't have to even consider working for him, and can stab him in the face and go live with a kindly aunt or something, spared punishment by her youth, prettiness, and bereavement. I already knew about the hair. I saw this and saw red, knowing that she's fifteen *at best*. 🤬

Most states women just carried guns.

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You know that pocket thing is a 100% fabricated myth, right? Otherwise known as a lie. Womens pockets were plenty deep, then fashions and what is socially acceptable for women to wear changed, with more skin tight/form fitting attire becoming normal. THAT is when your pockets disappeared. Men had nothing to do with it. Women chose to wear less and less, big deep pockets ruined the look of these outfits and didn't sell. Womens choices led to this, not mens. The hatpin thing isn't true either. The regulation for a smaller needle came in response to the increasingly unhinged actions of the Suffragette movement, whom many feared would start using hatpins as weapons. Bear in mind, the Suffragettes were not in any way popular with men OR women in their own time. They get undeserved positive coverage these days in media and education, but at the time they were seen as exactly what they were; a hysterical, stereotypical caricature of women. There WERE other womens groups advocating for women to get the vote at the time and for the most part they *HATED* the suffragettes, they rightly saw them as undermining the work they were doing. While the sane womens groups were working hard to show men they they could operate on the same level, that they deserved equality and weren't some hyper emotional, hysterical overgrown children that needed to be coddled at all times..... the Suffragettes were chaining themselves to buildings, screaming and shouting, throwing themselves under horses and generally doing everything they could to prove the negative stereotypes of women. When it comes to womens rights, the Suffragettes get all the credit but other groups did all the hard work. Also, Suffragettes weren't even in favour of equality. They were generally middle and upper class white women that thought THEY should have the vote.... but not working class or black women. There's a reason they were hated by Socialist groups in their own era. The same thing is going on with Feminists in the modern era. I remember a few years back a bunch of Feminists went to some Islamic country and decided to protest against gender based injustices..... by stripping naked and screaming at people. Local womens groups asked them not to come back, as a bunch of naked, screaming western women in the street is all the evidence the Islamic Patriarchy need to show their men why they shouldn't give women equal rights.

@@Houseproudasamotherhen Women ☕.

@@redmist2053 bro didn't comprehend the original comment

Does it really? I mean, apart from words like, "Kavaliersdelikt". I have to admit that "Kavalier" is not a word I ever used very much...

Cavaliers were horsemen as in here comes the Calvary. In earlier times they would have been Knights. And yes to be cavalier is reckless, bold and aggressive.

I'd say that this can differ between countries. While not often heard in Sweden these days, "kavaljer" is generally used in a positive or neutral context and might indeed be used as a synonym for "gentleman".

I think it's meant to be ironic, as a "Kavalier" is exactly the opposite of what he is, and/or it's maybe how this man thinks of himself - like today those man, that are very annoying and intrusive to women often think of themselves as total womanizers. ("Ka·va·lier/Kavaliér/Substantiv, maskulin [der] 1.Mann, der besonders Frauen gegenüber taktvoll, hilfsbereit und höflich ist und dadurch angenehm auffällt". Google 2023)

Yes, that's what I was thinking too!

Women's feelings are dismissed by both men and women. I was born overseas but moved into another country when I was 14. I'm 40 now but still have an accent. I'm constantly asked why I don't move to the old country. Why? Because I have a husband in this one? That I happen to love......they think I can just hop onto a plain and get another one.

@@waverider8549 I find both these paintings still shockingly relevant how they portray the female experience, how women are expected not to have any feelings about their roles in society whether becoming a widow or a bride

Men will try any opportunity to harass women.

@@greenghoul157 I don't know what world you are talking about, but it certainly isn't the western world. There aren't really any expectations for anything anymore from what i can tell.

It's damn sad that it's hard to feel safe for women anywhere bc of degenerate creeps

Not only in the streets, either. I've had two accounts, same creep. I was at work both times. I work in a little country diner. A family diner, mind you. I was working at the cash register the first time it happened, and some old fat guy walks up to pay for his food. He grins deviously as he peers into the kitchen. We always have music playing in there, and my mum was just kinda dancing as she worked, not even the slightest in a provocative way, either. He makes some comment along the lines of "I'd like to see her come out here and dance around that pole" (there are two support beams, running from floor to ceiling.) It took me a moment to register what he just said, and recover from my shock, and I didn't get to respond, because he had already gone. The more I thought about it, the more disgusted and furious I felt, and I REALLY wanted to bash that guy in the face. Pretty sure he knew it was my mum, too. A very faithful and happily married woman. I didn't remember his face. I thought he never came back again. Well, turns out he did. I was working in the kitchen with my mum this time, and a young guy, only a year older than me, who was the dishwasher, heard the guy make a pretty much identical comment as his previous one, but about the both of us, as he was going out to fetch dishes. I am a MINOR. And very obviously one, too. When he said that, the dishwasher immediately spoke up and chastised him, saying something like "hey you can't say things like that. you've got to respect these women." and hey, fun fact: this kid had recently been accused of harassment by an angry ex, too. I don't know how or if the creep responded. I only heard about all of this after the fact. I never want to work there again, but to thank the guy for saying something, when nobody else did. That guy really should've been kicked out of the restaurant. On another note, my friend was once riding the bus to school, and some guy that had been bothering her for quite some time went and sat next to her. He made some movement, and my friend, who already is very particular about personal space, thought he was going to put his arm around her or something, and she elbowed him in the face, without a word. He never bothered her again.

@@NighttimeDaydreams good for your friend he was not a psycho. Could have followed her and well, u know.... and the most horrible thing that most probably nobody would have found him anyway

It can only be considered harassment if it continues after you say no. Otherwise it is everyone's human right to seek out a mate at any time. And for men, we almost never get asked. So if we don't want to die alone, we have to ask 1000 women and be considered a creep by 999 of them. If you feel uncomfortable, just imagine having to learn to be brave and resilient enough to have the courage to ask out strangers who will likely look down on you and then endure the pain of rejection continuously. It is deeply dehumanizing. But either that, or die sad and alone.

@@ColinTherac117 Wow you have issues. You can "seek out a mate" without sexually harassing people who aren't interested. If something only works 0.1% of the time and harms people the other 99.9% you clearly need to find another method.

I love your profile picture 😆 Especially since I'm seeing it on a channel about paintings

@@SummerAlleriaWindrunner thanks! its street art from Florence by an artist called Blub! How fun 😁

Yes! I’m visually impaired and neurodiverse, so these videos really help me appreciate fine art!

Agatha Christie's books sometimes mention this period from history. After large hats went out of style, her characters occasionally suggest that men committed murders with hat pins to make people think that the murderer was a woman. (The 2 that come to mind are "After the Funeral" and one of the Tommy & Tuppance mysteries.)

The “hatpin peril” could hardly be considered esoteric subject material. That you’ve not encountered others who are familiar with it is quite surprising.

@@anhedonianepiphany5588 well it’s possible because that’s been my experience.

@@justwaiting5744 so interesting! Thank you for sharing that with me.

@@anhedonianepiphany5588 It's hardly something that comes up very often in everyday conversation 🙄

2nd this!!! Her editing is fantastic!!

The cigar ash may be a devious tactic on his part. If she pulls away the bag to brush the ash onto the floor, he can slip into the seat beside her, as the bag will no longer be a barrier. -A comment here

Yes.

mid century "nice guys" am i right?

i think there was something lost in the translation of the original German title

I've always been bothered about the term "Gentleman thief" when characters with that stereotype acts the exact opposite

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I love Jill's stuff too!

If you're talking about the sword dress lady. You guys are aware that she's a TERF, right? She had an entire website (which has since been archived) spreading misinformation and demonizing transgender people. (the archive and a breakdown can be found by searching "Jill Bearup transphobe" on RU-vid or searching on Google and going in the comments of the r/asktransgender post.)

Or men are just capable of empathy? And that's not an invention of the modern era?

@@neatoburrito3170 of course! They just have often been conditioned not to listen to that voice when it comes to women and girls, and to excuse the actions of other men.. And if that’s still too often true now, it was even more true when this painting was done. I am glad he was able to see it as he did, and hope that maybe it made some other men think about whether their ‘attentions’ were actually welcome or not.

@@archervine8064 Yikes, misandrist people like you are just as scary as creeps.

@@archervine8064 there’s literally a second man in the picture to prove your point lol

Your statement reeks of misandry. Unfortunately, shallow-minded gross generalisations don’t seem to be improving either.

it wont go away because its a part of our nature, sadly. 😔

@@marandaed4335 It is more so part of the culture and upbringing I think. The higher the consequences, both legal and social, for being a creep, the less enticing it seems. I'd stay clear of men who are adamant that this is not something that really happens, replying to the og comment. You think half the population is lying? Okay sweetie, have a fun chat by yourself

@@bluefox5331 this happens even in animals , we are no different .

@@cooldude2106 the difference is that animals have no conscience, animals do not understand the concept of rape, harassment, and other vile actions because they are simply animals. We as humans evolved and learned to control our primal instincts. We learned that our actions have consequences, that our actions can hurt us and others and that no one wants to be hurt. We learned to care for one another (most of us at least), and we learned how to satisfy our needs without hurting others. There is a huge difference, and you saying there is none does more harm than good.

@@tychopanda to control our instincts is a choice , some people will always choose not to , thats why this kind of behaviour has always been present and will always be there , unless we control it through very strict laws.

That's what I thought too, gathering her courage.

I do find it amusing that they seem to have kept the same beard style through the decades.

I don't remember the quote exactly, but in one of Richardson's novels there is a spirited young woman who is always sassing the gentlemen, and I recall her saying something like, "Move further away, Sir, I desire my skirt to have its full circumference!" She also snaps her fan in the face of another gentleman to show her contempt/displeasure. This is pre-Victorian though by 100 years, which kinda shows women have been using their fashion defensively and even offensively for --- well, probably, forever 😁

@@wildthornrose Yeah!😂

@SnappyDragon did a video on this. "Historical Costume vs Catcalling : Feminist fashion trends men hated" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fSPa402MRPc.html I'm not sure if this is the exact one you were thinking of, but it's a good video.

@@wildthornrose "I desire my skirt to have its full circumference!" Absolute queen. 🤣

​@@wildthornrose ah yes,'offensive fashion'!

"modern take" lmfao. Well, at least you don't have to worry about a creep advancing toward you, judging by your profile picture lmao.

I want to ask, with all due respect, even with hijab on, do some still harass you? I know that wearing it decreased the harassment, but I went to one county once and the men there kept staring at my body (I had hijab ON and a big jacket ON, NO MAKEUP, even have zits on my forehead). I felt violated since that day. I thought it was nothing until my friends discussed it. It's like there are some actual weirdos out there, y'know?

What 😂 the reason why they had hatpins is because the society would not allow other weapons held by woman now you can actually call for help

​@@Imsodarnhungryyou are aware that not all women in danger can have the access to calling for help, right? in some contexts and situations it can literally be too late or they don't have the resources as i said before + other reasons

Mexican men have the most audacity staring in public mofos will literally break their necks walking past you then continue to with thee most empty animalistic eyes. My favorite thing to do is give them the exact piercing stare they look away so fast

@@KAT-fz6yn ohhh, I'll use it next time, thanks!

They’re everywhere it seems 🤔

He was probably wondering what kind of idiot is running around with a face mask on.

Out of curiosity- which one of them was more cute?

Right through the fourth wall! I'm watching this from the bath, fucker would probably be delighted, until the beating started.

That’s what most of us would do. We’d be all “Oh Alice! Such a shame about so and so.” And continue on falsely until the guy leaves or the girl gets up and you accompany her. Creeps on public transport suck. When all else fails, hitting the big red emergency button works too. I’ve done that before when there was a fight in my carriage.