This Pokemon Gets "WEAKER" After Evolving 

fr that thing ain't gonna survive any super effective hits anyway unless it has a focus sash which can only work for 1 turn

@@Cobrakys Yes. That is what I mean. every attack will always do at least 1hp of damage provided it's not an immunity. Shedinja has 1 hp, therefore no need for defense

Transform copies every stat except HP, meaning you can potentially have a Shedinja with more than 1 hit point

​@@Deathnotefan97but thats just cheese

​@@Deathnotefan97also that doesnt do anything to shedinja himself

I know the technicalities of it but I still personally count it as an evolution 👍 I can understand your point of view though

The pokemon deluxe essential handbook says it is

​@@randomizedbeing9955 One of those handbooks says cascoon is unrelated to wurmple so idk about those.

​@@8bitmoe Makes sense to me.

@@fuecOHKO which one, I've only really read the deluxe essential handbook

Thats the best part of the 3 of them. They also all represent Rock Paper and Scissor. Although Scyther as Paper is a stretch

It's very clever ahahaha

​​@@Dino-lv8eowish they made a new Evo called Stretchor for that tbh or a fighting type called Flexor.

@@Dino-lv8eoI don’t remember scissor being able to beat rock in this case though

R.i.p paper I guess 😂

Also Shedinja: naturally learns Harden

Fr Why does Shedinja needs defence if it only has 1 hp

Translation: Shift Also translation: Shedinja

@@DJCheese77 huh

​@@Pink_sheep34there was a translation button on your comment that turned the first Shedinja into the word shift, but not the second one.

Plus abilities and a good move pool

Well it practically became a whole different pokemon

​@@gebdemedici well not really abilities. The only difference is Steadfast changing to Light Metal. Both have swarm and technician

I don't play competitively, so I'm often torn about whether or not to evolve a Scyther. STAB moves and 4x weaknesses changing is a lot

Actually it just shows how overpowered steel is as a type lol.

Its defense also drops for the same reason.

​@@patchworkgolem i mean do you really need defense if you die in 1 hit anyways?

@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Yah, I was saying that was the reason they dropped it and that it contributed to the overall stat decrease

@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Yes, you could. Shedinja's defense would be used if it was Baton Passed a Substitute.

​@@Hewhoroamstheinternet Shedninja is only affected by super effective moves if I remember correctly

This is crazy

Still love my husk boy

It's funnier that he learns final gambit to do a grand total of 1 damage

Harden could actually be useful with Baton Pass

That happens with a lot of Pokémon that are Bug-type or "bug-like" with a 2nd stage evolution.

yehh..😁

But Vibrava almost ALWAYS went first, amirite?

nah but Dragon type was special before the split and flygon learned special moves like flamethrower etc which makes it good

90 to 70 😂😂

Scyther line is just immune to power creep ig. I've really grown to love those guys these past few years.

I think it's because you're mainly just giving an armor to a Scyther.

Finally someone brought up kleavor also have the same total as scyther and scizor. Kleavor feels so underrated in my opinion.

@@ammagon4519 Isn't Black Augurite eaten by Scyther to become Kleavor?

Slap an eviolite on a Scyther now and you're golden

Trapinch gains 50 BST from evolution though

​@@julienbronsch5039loses alot of attack

@@VaporeonRevival the video wasnt talking about attack, it was talking about BST. Also is your pfp the 3d model of Vaporeon in the pokrmon Rumble spinoff series?

🤓 ACKSHUALLY, it has evo requirements and it comes from another Pokemon which means it's an evolution. You're really grasping at straws because bugs IRL shed their skin

@@M4y0nn41s3 Shedninja is created as a result of Nincada's evolution into Ninjask. And Pokemon Evolution is a significant and permanent change in stats and appearance. Not to be confused with Form Changes that are temporary like with Pokemon like Rotom or Castform. Neither Nincada nor Ninjask can evolve into Shedninja. Thus, it is a CREATION and NOT AN EVOLUTION!! This is the difference between a result and the BYPRODUCT of a result. Meaning BY DEFINITION, Shedninja is NOT an evolution. (Drops the 🎤) I rest my case. Btw, next time you want to act smart, make sure you know what you are talking about.

​@@yorelyoung6407 "a permanent change in stats and appearance" does shedinja have the same bst as nincada? No Does shedinja look like nincada? No By your "definition," shedinja is an evolution 😂

@@frieddoorhandles You're focusing on the stats and not the change part. Nincada didn't become Shedinja. It evolved into Ninjask which resulted in the creation of Shedinja. That's like making a failed clone of yourself out of your shed skin cells and calling it your evolution. The change part invalidates your argument. No change, no evolution.

I’d like to add to your argument by pointing out the fact that the evolution cutscene literally shows Nincada evolving into Ninjask, not Shedinja. The requirement is to evolve Nincada with an empty slot in your party and a pokeball in your bag, and if your Nincada is nicknamed, Shedinja doesn’t take on said nickname, Ninjask does, so it’s pretty clear that Nincada doesn’t become Shedinja.

Shedinja having 1 hp has nothing to do with it's BST though because its base hp of 1 is purely aesthetic. It doesn't actually use its HP base.

​@@ZenoDovahkiin It is technically true that its HP stat isn't used to calculate it's HP, but its HP stat is set to 1 so that it makes sense in relation to its 1hp. This means its 1hp trait is indirectly the reason for this lower BST, so saying it has "nothing" to do with it is a bit disingenuous because the BST is affected by its trait of always having 1hp even if that stat isn't directly used since its HP base stat is used when determining the BST.

@@thekilla1234a whole lotta words to end up saying nothing 😂

​@@pubplays368they're correct though 😂

​@@Umbzardnot entirely

It also makes sense competitively because the DEFENSE AND SPECIAL DEFENSE STAT ARE LITERALLY USELESS ON THIS THING. Damage is rounded up in Pokemon too, so even if the attack did less than 1 damage mathematically, Shedinja would not survive the hit anyway

@@harrya9458 def and spdef are for impostor, transform and substitute

Honestly they should have given it a better special attack stat than it got. Make the defenses both 1 since they do nothing and increase the speed too.

@@lofifuture-0643 yeah I found that odd too, considering in the anime, it's known to use Shadow Ball. Then again, this is at the time where Ghost type moves are only physical.

@@ammagon4519 Yeah I get your point, but at the same time Shedinja feels like it should be the poster child of glass cannon Pokemon. It's just weird to me that they gave it any stat points for its defenses and didn't really increase anything besides its physical attack.

And nincada by far is the only bug/Ground pokemon ever

​@@Eric6761 there's also Wormadam (Sand Cloak form)

It's a shell of its former self.

​@@ThighFishshedinja and nincada are the pokemon of that phrase

Except hp

if it was 21 it would have been perfect

@@ThighFishi see what you did

Why would you want to touch a woman

😂👏

If you're gonna use it, a -def +spd nature is quite good.

​@@marhawkman303 I assume you meant +SPE, but no, that's dogshit. Shedinja is too slow to worry about a speed boosting nature. Just use a +ATK nature.

@@William256 sure... that's also a good option.

@@marhawkman303 It's the only option worth using. Boosting a base 40 speed is pointless, especially considering one of the most commonly ran moves on Shedinja is Shadow Sneak. Instead of wasting a nature on it, you could spend just 4 EVs to outspeed opposing Shedinja.

and if it's holding a pokeball?

@@shadow_realm47 It doesn't need to be holding a Pokeball. It doesn't catch itself, lol. You just need a pokeball in your bag

That is correct. Nincada always evolves into Ninjask. Shedinja just shows up in your party if you happen to have an empty slot and a spare Poké Ball.

That’s wild lore. “Shed-ninja” So that’s why he has funky type resistance because he’s just a shed husk of a former nincada? The writers at Pokémon are fkn metal

Wouldn't a shedinja always form from an evolution with ninjask just in game it only appears when you have free space? In the context of the Pokémon world wouldn't It just just wander off if it wasn't caught kind of like how in the game you don't capture it if you don't have a free slot.

That would definitely make sense, though I don't know the lore there, maybe it doesn't form in the wild? Idk honestly

If you don't have a friend, Machamp, Gengar and Alakazam are impossible to get. They are still evolutions.

🎶WHO'S THAT POKEMON?🎶😂

Well, in modern gens, blissey is used as it can use heavy duty boots

@@tetra_kirby5691 modern gens don't even have the national dex while using basically the same models

@@loomnatinoscopers ...what does that have to do with anything

@@loomnatinoscopers showdown has national dex

​@@tetra_kirby5691 Exactly, you got 'em

Um actually Magikarp are extremely agile. They are able to jump higher than mountains. Just what I would expect from a fake fan who hasn't played every game (Magikarp jump). You just can't expect Gyarados to be able to match up with the god that is Magikarp./s

@@BLazeWigglytuff omg I haven’t thought about magikarp jump in ages

Actually friend, Gyrados has just 1 point *higher than Magicarp. Magicarp: 80 speed and Gyrados: 81 speed

​@@BLazeWigglytuff you don't have to play every game to be a fan, younger fans might not have played earlier games as the consoles were not being sold ect

@@shiny_baxcalibur /s means /sarcasm sarcasm means not what I actually mean

Explain bruh!!!!

​@@zhangthehuman basically, if you have a pokeball and an open team slot while evolving nincada shedinja just appears into your party while nincada evolves into ninjask.

​@@zhangthehuman Nincada is based on a cicada. When a cicada goes through metamorphosis, it leaves a husk of its former body. Nincada evolves into Ninjask, but if you have an empty slot in your party and a Pokeball, the husk Nincada left behind gains life and becomes Shedinja

​@@zhangthehuman exactly what this guys said and if it's a shiny nincada you get a shiny Shedninja aswell as of course man gets a shiny husk

Since Shedinja is on every ninjask evolution chart, i think its fair to say we don't need to be scientific here, Shedinja is definitely an evolution

Oh well ! May as well get over it

The pokedex classifies Shedinja as an evolution of Nincada. Furthermore, Shedinja keeps all of the Nincada's inherented traits/evs.

@@Cycad97 Actually...It doesn't. It classes it as part of the Nincada family (but it's also classed Tauros and Miltank in the same family so...)

Okay virgin

@@GoldenSunAlexbut you get a nincada if you breed Shedinja w/ Ditto

Who is struggling?

@@IndexInvestingWithCole Appearently some people out here.

​@@IndexInvestingWithCole somehow a lot of people

And even more people struggle to understand that BST doesn't say anything how good a Pokemon actually is...

@@V-Jes especially when talking about unicategorically offensive mons

Shedinja should have 1 point i hp Defense and special defense. The rest can go into special attack and speed

dawg why you rping as shedinja

@@realrealwarpet That would be overpowered. Shedinja has literally the best ability in the game, there's a reason it's risky to use

@@cowrocks3630 it’s high risk, low reward. At least as an offensive monster, i could use it in regular play

@@realrealwarpet That's true. Although I think a buff to attacks are needed, speed would make it unstoppable.

Trapinch and Flygon both have the same attack stat too! Too bad trapinch has 10 base speed lol

Base stat total not a specific stat

And every other stat is way higher, so the total is higher

In Pokémon go vibrava CP are lower than trapinch when you evolve it 😂

Technically correct but I’m pretty sure the manuals gave always put it as part of the Nincada evolution tree

Exactly. It's a byproduct, not an evolution

Yee it a husk left by it

i read that as "pooping into existence" which is even better

could you imagine if a normal/ghost had wonder guard?

And Sableye had no type weaknesses at all. Crazy

@@dakotastein9499 even better, steel/bug is immune to poison and sandstorms too

@@snake698 yes but normal/ghost has only one weakness and thats dark (also has 3 immunities) paired with wonder gaurd that will mean only dark moves can touch it.

@@dakotastein9499 Steel bug only has fire as a weakness, it's times 4 but that's irrelevant, trust me it is objectively better as I played both in infinite fusion haha not that normal ghost is bad by any means but the steel immunities make it objectively better, and I also personally prefer the fire weakness as fire attacks usually come from more obvious mons and I can predict them better

still is that way

by delaying an info that is false.

​@@AfroJeffrey Tf? Yes, the video was delayed, but itd not false?

@@rinkutsuki3382 did you not read the hundreds of comments saying that nincada doesnt _evolve_ into shedinja?

@Shiven Parashar Bro, it does tho. It is by pokemon's definition an evolution to nincada. It's considered a special evolution.

I like how he explains why the other Pokemon have little to no base increases, but not why Shedinja's decreases

I second this, I have a shiny BR Porygon2 that is near impossible to fell

Yep. It gave me great success at gen 5 showdown.

Porygon z too, especially with 1 nasty plot

fun fact: porygon Z is just a glitched out porygon 2

Not having an HP stat helps

Yes. A spooky haunted shell lol

Husk?

Except for steel

@@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 almost everything, but even then, u-turn gets you out of there anyway

You mean Scyther?

It's a reasonable thing to overlook considering they are technically wrong - Shedinja isn't actually an evolution, merely a "byproduct" of the evolution. Nincada evolves into Ninjask, and Shedinja just... appears.

Steel Bug >>>>>>>> Flying Bug

Scyther also does get technician and dual wingbeat for a decently powerful STAB, but scizor does have a superior typing

Yeah but Scizor can also learn Roost by evolving it after Scyther knows it, and its type is vastly superior.

Yes but you will have less attack a worse typing you have more speed sure but to what benefit really with Scizor you can turn it mega to add even more attack whilst bulking up its defence or use a different item when that's not available not to mention bullet punch swords dance less stealth rocks damage and so on

You also get obliterated by stealth rocks

All megas get an extra 100 points in their base stats which was the main purpose of the video but I know what you mean, mega chomp is kinda ass lol

Why did they do that to bros Speed stat

Still bulky if invested right, not porygon2 obviously, but it can take only 60% damage from a mega mewtwo y’s fire blast and ko it in return with shadow ball

@@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 mega sandwichtwo y*

@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 just make it’s sp def and def 218 and it will be survivable, tanking at least 2 hits before going down. Couple recover in and it’s harder to kill, but still has enough power to sweep

@@dylanangsengsiatsass2688 it's not mewtwo it's sandwichtwo

@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 porygon2 however can trick room better cause base 60 and doesn’t fear fire blast that much, it could also beat mewtwo y, though it’ll take longer

Wow how did I not think about making an April fools video lol

its truw

It's a subject of some debate but the majority of sources say yes it counts.

Technically it is considered a new pokemon that is automatically caught/directly added to your party when at least one slot is empty.

@LPFan That seems pretty inaccurate. All official sources (that I know of) list it as an evolution. The top fan sites have it considered as an evolution. Additionally Shedinja receives all EVs, IVs, nature, and most importantly met location from Nincada. Personally I consider the met location as the ultimate indicator that it is an evolution. You can say that *you* consider it a new Pokémon but I'd have to say that overall it is considered an evolution by both the game and the community overall.

@@tinkerer3399 From the german Wiki: "Im Tagebuch aus Pokémon Diamant und Perl steht, nachdem man Ninjatom mit Ninjask erhalten hat, nicht, dass sich Nincada in es entwickelt hätte, sondern dass man ein wildes Ninjatom gefangen hat."("In the diary in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, it's not written after obtaining Shedinja alongside Ninjask that Nincada evolved into it, but rather that one caught a wild Shedinja") Additionally, it requires a new pokeball to be in the player's inventory after Gen 3, going along with that thread of logic.

@@tinkerer3399 that’s why I posed it as a question. It seems like a bi product, but I didn’t know for sure

Nope it actually gains 10bst

lol imagine not knowing that and losing your master ball

@@Cellystix2.0 it happened to CandyEvie once...

Where did you get that it could go into and use up a Master Ball? Everything I've ever heard about Shedinja says it only works with a regular Poké Ball.

​​@@TheRedSmartyfter gen 3. It only copies Ninjask's ball in gen 3. Otherwise, it's a normal pokeball.

@@Prince_Eva_Huepow Okay, but that's not using up one from the Bag, which is what this person is talking about. (Oh, another way to create a Master Ball from thin air, can't breed it down, but Nincada in gen 3 and Calyrex get to spread it around.)