This SONIC 3 Game has a Strange Fault | Can I FIX It?

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I bought this faulty Tiger Electronics SONIC 3 Game on eBay and in this video I'm trying to fix it. The screen is displaying, but it doesn't seem to do anything and the game will not start.
Will I be able to repair and restore it to it's former glory?
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
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@Heymrk Год назад

I'm always fascinated by your willingness to repair absolute crap that shouldn't be repaired.

@yveice 2 года назад

Start sound works, reset cycle works, so why should the µC under the blob be broken? After seeing the screen working my first guess was, that somewhere between the blob and the keypad contacts is (lightly) shorten. I would desolder the keypad part completely and measure that there is no contact between the via's < 10M Ohm. And give both boards a very good clean with IPA and a toothbrush or so. As you got a mostly similar device, you could check there if the game is glitching if you hold down (and keep pressed) multiple bottons at once and then power it on and wait until the normal game should start.

@Mymatevince 3 года назад

Unlucky Steve. I was sure it was going to be the crystal. Nicely edited Lego mini figures🤣

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Vince! Yeah, I really thought it would have been. I even put the "faulty" crystal into my Double Dragon one and it works fine. Such a shame, I really wanted to get this working, but it wasn't meant to be! 😊

@rimmersbryggeri 2 года назад

@@StezStixFix REflow and clean anything connected to the lcd.

@SimonEllwood 2 года назад

The crystal was not so likely as after the reset there was some music playing at a sensible speed.

@masterrudi 2 года назад

Liked the Lego thing !!

@elishariedlinger559 2 года назад

I know this is a but late, but it looks like there may be some traces that are cut. Notice at this time: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6UZW1WjpJPA.html

@jeromebullard6123 3 месяца назад

I noticed that as well. Corrosion ate through one of them.

@captcraig777 2 года назад

Another astounding failure! The sad part about buying used broken stuff is that sometimes, there is no repairing them. I appreciate the content you put out because it is incredibly educational. When I can afford it, I will start my own electronics journey (at 50 years old mind you). In the meantime, thank you so much for taking the time to create these videos!

@welshtony1 Год назад

It's sad to see how many of these old games have been chucked but that's how they was designed. They was never meant to last long at all :(

@m1k3l1f3 2 года назад

I love these quiet little electronic repair videos with bits of humor in the editing.

@peterseddon6117 2 года назад

This was my first exposure to a Sonic game as a child. I remember specifically asking my friend if he had a Sega Megadrive. He said "No, I have a Sega R" by which he meant the registered trademark logo next to the Sega branding on the front of the game >.

@Yourmomgoestocolledge Год назад

You had a very dumb friend 🤣🤣🤣

@michaellegg9381 Год назад

Lol

@CD-Gaming 5 месяцев назад

I remember I had one of those things but for Golden Axe when I was in Primary School... so simple and straightforward, I think I may have taken it apart at some point as that is where I first encountered that big blob, no idea what the hell it was!

@TheMrDrMs Год назад

A clue for me that it was not the OCXO was that when it stopped its beeping spaz, the little 'jingle' played in time, it wasn't slower or faster than it should be.

@cheekbonestrenchcoat 2 года назад

Just want to say thank you I dropped my Switch a little bit the other day and it cause the casing on the Left Joycon to crack and "pop" off the screw at the top. Before this channel I'd have probably panicked and spent a fortune on new ones. Instead I ordered a Switch screwdriver, carefully opened up the casing and rescrewed it in place, fastening the cracked part back in place so it's not really noticeable. Instead of costing me about £50, it cost me about £8 for the screwdrivers. So thanks for giving me to confidence to make a minor repair!

@lisajohnson1528 11 месяцев назад

Lol love the hairstyles at the beginning love your repair videos best thing on RU-vid imo

@UndeadPasta 2 года назад

Man I found this channel randomly a week ago and I can't stop watching. Subbed

@cherrymountains72 2 года назад

OMG, I haven’t LOL’ed so much at the start of a video in a long time. Love the hairdos (hairdonts?) and not taking life too seriously. 👍🏻 No idea what the rest of the video was about though.

@Zombytes 8 месяцев назад

i remember in one of Vinces videos, he had (I think it was a game and watch) one, that he cleaned up, but it turned out the button contacts where shorting together still, I forgot why, but there was like traces of carbon or something that were making the button contacts short together, not allowing the game to work, and he was thinking it was the blob chip also, until he figured that out. May be something simlar going on with this thing

@theonemanopinion2764 2 года назад

Just the start of the sonic intro music was enough to get my nostalgia juices going! I still have that game somewhere!

@victorg7036 2 года назад

I had one of these Sonic 3 tiger games growing up. I had no idea how it played. I would just press the buttons and random stuff would happen. Never knew if I won or not. Also I remember the music

@StezStixFix 2 года назад

😁 yeah, most of these Tiger games are very similar I think. Not much playability, but I still love them!

@chris-pike 3 года назад

Good to see another of your fixing vlogs there Steve there always interesting to watch and something that i really enjoy watching - Nice 1 👍

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Chris, appreciated! 🙏

@Jinxnator 3 года назад

Stezzzzy The faces you pull 🤣🤣🤣 Keep the great content coming bro and the video editing is starting to really amaze me 👍

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Haha, thanks Jinxy! I think I'm getting a bit better! 😊

@Jinxnator 3 года назад

@@StezStixFix I just noticed the hair change as well 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

@@Jinxnator haha, I was wondering if anyone would notice that! 😁

@Jinxnator 3 года назад

@@StezStixFix Its hard not too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

@@Jinxnator 🤣

@JustinEmlay 2 года назад

I know this video is old but you could have put the old crystal in your DD game to fully test that part. If the crystal was bad then putting in a wrong crystal value could still have the same bad outcome. So that avenue wasn't fully tested since the crystal value was unknown.

@SimpleShaun80 3 года назад

Love this dude, keep this up... Thought it was going to be the crystal on the last one but it wasn't to be. great investigative work though :)

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Shaun, much appreciated mate 👍

@retroeye-vu4vl 2 года назад

What crystal

@EikottXD 2 года назад

@@retroeye-vu4vl Watch the video.

@ToxoRetro 3 года назад

🎶If there's something strange, In your 'tronics-hood, Who is gonna call? (Lego) Ghostbusters!🎶 Loving your cheeky animations. 😄 Anyhow Stez, I think the remaining problem is similar to Joey's SMD practice board where it works to an extent then fails at a logic gate change. Let's face it, you've tried everything else... I hope you can get past that sci-fi esk force shield blob to get to the main IC. Best of luck mate. 🤞

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

😁 Thanks Toxo! I'm very tempted to try and melt off that blob and see if I can find anything underneath. Doesn't look like it's easy to do, but I've got nothing to lose! 👍

@sweetcheeks287 2 года назад

Lovin the hair do's or dont's 🤣🤣🤣 classic ste

@gb7767 3 года назад

You got your money's worth out of that one ... shame about the outcome. The only thing I could suggest is that you buzz-out all the lines (continuity test on the traces and connectors). Other than that just a good clean of all the contacts including any carbon blocks under the buttons etc. Right, back to MMV's megadrives ... I had to pause it to watch this. The lego-men loading the batteries was a nice touch :D

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks G B! I did actually continuity test the traces, but edited it out. I'm very tempted to have another look at it though, just in case! Thanks for the info 👍

@danielvillegas1647 2 года назад

Great videos! Can I ask what brand is the first flux you used? Thanks beforehand!

@randomretroplays3123 2 года назад

Really enjoyed watching. If it is the blob then theres nothing much you can do.

@randomretroplays3123 2 года назад

I love a good fix it video, big like and subscribed 👍

@fixit2747 Год назад

It sounds like a button is stuck on try cleaning the button points might be a short on one.

@Wasper216 2 года назад

That’s not how you test a diode. Your multimeter even has a diode test function that you completely ignored.

@coffeyeoin5 2 года назад

call the police

@OldUKAds 4 месяца назад

And this poster could have been informative on HOW so future people could learn. But nah. Maybe on his or her diode testing RU-vid channel.

@bryanfields5306 11 месяцев назад

When you cleaned the circuit board up it looked to me like one of the traces on the PCB is broken,

@skylarkblue1 2 года назад

If there's no issues with hardware, perhaps it's software? Looked like it did a texture dump of sorts and the sound is reminiscent of software crashes. Could be ram is corrupt or broken or similar. Idk I'm just spitballing, I've never worked on this kind of hardware before so idk how it works exactly.

@fixins Год назад

You know what's super satisfying with a project like this? Throwing it in the bin.

@delightful-ish Год назад

"Did I do that?" asked while working on a 90s Sonic game...

@craizydraws4724 2 года назад

My mind could not and would take one good look at it and say “no” but great job!

@secretbaseinvestigations7039 4 месяца назад

Clawfinger! What a band!

@pintokitkat 2 года назад

You don't need to recap what you've done in the video because for us you did it seconds ago and we have better memories than goldfish.

@jonmayer 2 года назад

I had one of these as a kid. Kuddos to you, but I can't see that as being worth the time trying to fix.

@justinparkeradams 2 года назад

I know I am way late on this but given that it is a Sonic game, could the buzz sound just be Sonic running and the fault is that the game play is not being displayed properly?

@HighDefBNG 2 года назад

I HAD ONE OF THESE! Sorry, I loved Sonic as a kid, was the only super hero I've been into, my heros now have K swaps and LS swaps haha. Great video.

@oldguy8177able 2 года назад

im sure the diode if not faulty is shorting,because in circuit it conducts both ways which it should'nt

@Flyingdogturd 2 года назад

Is the ribbon broken in anyway

@Pirate_ 2 года назад

7:30 WOW, wise words from a wise man. I would have never come to that conclusion.

@jinglequeen 2 года назад

I had issues with a Mega Man 2 where the buttons for the 'weapon' did nothing. I replaced everything, and it kept having the same issue. There are solid jumper wires that connect the buttons to the board. I replaced those and I got it up and running. (It is also cute and clean inside because I used colored plastic covered jumpers.) I wonder if they are bridging and spamming start...

@rcboosted 2 года назад

Give it the SNES mini treatment? Pop in a pi zero that loads up the actual Sonic 3, and now you have an actual Sonic 3 hand held! But that's a much bigger project though. Need lots of components.

@amalaodoms Год назад

Bought this item TODAY and it makes sound but the screen is too dark to see anything1

@KorAllRBare 3 года назад

🐨 The blobbed chip is the only component not tested, So if you have cleaned the tactile switches and they test reliably, then yeah it's that IC under the Blob, At least it's a good donor board seeing all the other components checked out OK.. APU I dropped a 👍

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks 🐨! Yeah, I can't see what else it can be. Will make a good donor board, you're right 👍

@joshholbrooks1181 2 года назад

Seems that one of the buttons and being held down completely

@mattwickham274 2 года назад

late to the party but did you try to take the reset button out of the circuit ?

@MrExeetor 2 года назад

did u try and measure the "faulty" diode again when u popped it back in? could be something wrong with the board that made the diode have resistance both ways.

@MrExeetor 2 года назад

Also just found this video so I know Im abit late ^^

@jonathanlittle8393 3 года назад

Nice one think you found the issue like the lego helpers

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Jonathan! I really wanted to see this one working, but I guess it wasn't meant to be! 😊

@TruMaverick 2 года назад

Was there ever a follow up video? Or did you melt the blob? Did you ever test the "RU-vid comment Suggestion? " Will Sonic ever Run Again!?! So many questions!!!

@warpath6666 2 года назад

Only Dave knows for sure and he doesn't talk much 😄

@TruMaverick 2 года назад

@@warpath6666 Steve did give me an Update about Sonic. And he said it was bad . A big mess and Sonic doesn't run. Really nice of Steve

@warpath6666 2 года назад

@@TruMaverick Oh fiddlesticks !!! I guess I hadn't gotten to that one yet. Great entertaining videos. I've now bought the same mat, soldering station, digital microscope, and multimeter ... dismantling everything that doesn't work for some good practice. The hot air rework station will come later 😄👍

@TruMaverick 2 года назад

@@warpath6666 No way! I actually watched all these videos! This channel is very entertaining. Simple yet satisfying 😌. I have been enjoying the singing and learning about fixing, and modifications in a whole new light

@TheAxelay 2 года назад

Great video but if it was me?! I'd never sacrifice Double Dragon for Sonic 3 but each their own here.

@wyxchari 11 месяцев назад

It sounds like a stuck button. Clean the button contacts and check for a short for corrosion.

@kennethbarker852 2 года назад

1st class video to watch thank you take care kind regards from me kenneth💟💟💟👍

@00Glitch 2 года назад

I need closure on this and I am never going to get it, am I? :(

@fnln3011 2 года назад

the fault is that it's a tiger handheld so what you need to do to fix it is gut it and replace the built in game with a small board running the s3&k rom on an emulator attached to an LCD wired up to those buttons for input.

@thunderlipz 2 года назад

Did check the flux capicator? I think the guy before was using the "88 reset presses" method, which explains the mashed button. If you still cant get it fixed, send it to me, I'll pass it over to the doc.... Thanks for the video future boy!

@philwhelan226 10 месяцев назад

Lol the hair styles 😂

@andrasszabo7386 2 года назад

Hello, Steve, The inductor and the transistor is the audio "amplifier"/driver circuit. It has nothing to do with the game itself. If you remove them, the game will play fine, but without sound.

@larsthestorf5630 3 года назад

Could those blue wires be the Problem? Maybe some form of bad contact?

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Hi Lars! I seem to remember I did check them and they were OK. But you could be on to something. In hindsight, I maybe should have tried swapping them out! 🤔

@cmbaz1140 2 года назад

I actually still have this flying around somewhere in the basement...wow

@nobeac 2 года назад

If it's a mother board problem isn't it done for?

@602sanchez 2 года назад

I got these mini thing here too

@gerryb54ful 3 года назад

Hi, I was wondering if It could be the ribbon cable that's faulty it would be worthwhile checking it, good luck with it.

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Gerard! I did check it quickly off camera, but you're right, it's worth double checking! Thanks for the info! 👍

@MatthewBryce 2 года назад

Careful with those Kirkland batteries, they leak and destroy stuff

@principeeee Год назад

Io ho dovuto smontare uno dei miei..lo schermo era diventato meno lucido pensavo fossero le pile..poi ho capito che era questione di contatti e ho risolto usando un prodotto x pulire i contatti

@jimmyramkisoen191278 3 года назад

Nice hearcut!

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Jimmy! Fancied a change 🤣

@samwilliamson4715 Год назад

10 different hair styles.. 1 legend Another ‘stupid game’ Nice try tho 👍 👍 🎉 happy new year Steve; appreciate your content

@drlegendre 2 года назад

If it's playing music at the correct pitch / tempo, then the xtal is fine. If the xtal were truly dead, there would be zero activity from the CPU.

@opinionateddrone 2 года назад

I had one of these as a kid. I was never very impressed with it, but I played it anyway

@PlutoPebble 10 месяцев назад

I guess because these were so cheaply made it's meant to be hard to fix. I had this with a cassette player, it just was not fixable because it was made not too.

@mirkoskender4418 2 года назад

Try to switch displeja and put in, in duble dragon

@FelinoAnticomunista 7 месяцев назад

Nice cat !!!

@whatislovebutonelonggame5406 3 года назад

love the stop motion animation! & say hi to your feline friend for me please~ meow~

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Haha, thanks WILBOLG! 😊 😻

@rafaelantonio6765 2 года назад

the bubble has a malfunction short circuit

@andycooper4230 3 года назад

Great try mate have you tested every trace on the ribbon love the edit

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks mate. Yeah, they all tested ok. I'm tempted to go back and have another look, but I'm pretty sure I was thorough enough. Gutted!

@andycooper4230 3 года назад

@@StezStixFix hopefully somebody may know what is under those black bobs always puzzled me why what ever it is needs covering like that 👍

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

@@andycooper4230 I tried to remove one on an old ps2 controller, it just seemed to disintegrate and didn't have much to it at all. I definitely want to know more about them! 👍

@GawrGurasBathTubPizza 2 года назад

*avgn:* "why are you fixing this burn them all to hell"

@themanthelegend7048 2 года назад

I had this same game and it did the same thing.

@alf1982 2 года назад

My brother had one of these, while I had The Terminator. It stopped working and I took it apart. I might have got those the wrong way round! 😂

@crobinson2624 2 года назад

I actually have that game along with the Sonic 2 game.

@craiggilchrist4223 2 года назад

I think something was permanently stuck in the reset hole to keep the game running.

@ThiagoMacielpp 2 года назад

Eu tenho o do Peter Pan feito pela Tectoy.

@squierstrat9502 2 года назад

It worked fine. That was just the game...

@DudditsJoeFinemusic 2 года назад

You know, in Europe we call the "crystal" a quartz! Because that IS a quartz! 🙂

@felixhartard5569 2 года назад

Only in Germany it is called a "Quartzoszillator" or Short "Quartz". In most other countries it is just referred to as a "crystal oscillator", "Oscilador de cristal", "Kristaloscillator" or "Kristal osilatör". So it is natural to shorten it to "crystal". So maybe widen your view of the world and don't think that YOUR truth is everyones truth.

@ianhaylock7409 Год назад

And the rest of us call it a crystal, because, you know, quartz is a type of crystal.

@GamingBoyColor 2 года назад

Gotta like the vid cuz the ghostbusters in the first minute

@northernninjarunner5506 Год назад

Did you ever fix this?

@MrJDNJ Год назад

Has anyone ever successfully removed the black blob to see what the heck's under there??? I wonder what chemical would dissolve it....

@309electronics5 Год назад

Likely some acid but under the blob is just a bare die its not a whole chip with pins on the side, its the bare die that gets glued to the pcb and then bond wires of gold get bonded from the die pads to the pcb pads. Its the cheapest way to produce a chip and its likely a cheap chinese undocumented microcontroller with some otp code(one time programmable, basicly by blowing efuse based bits in the chips memory you basicly create the 1s and 0s of binary (1 is when a bit is not blown, 0 is when a bit is blown) and thats how the code gets burned in the memory and cant be reprogrammed)

@stevenwheat3621 2 года назад

You've let me down again..... Just kidding, or am i?....

@Ratchet_effect 3 года назад

I see what you did there, you re-capped the re-cap. A Serious & doable idea, you can remove the epoxy resin with a hot plate & nitric acid. Then some acetone to clean the acid after its melted the epoxy. You might want to do it in the ventilated shed, if you do go ahead 🖖👍

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

Thanks Steve, I am very tempted to do this - I really want to know what's under there. Although I would have no idea what to do with it once I'd burnt it off! 🙃

@Ratchet_effect 3 года назад

Once the epoxy is off and it's clean, simply put it under your microscope. Check for any broken bond wires, please be careful! use gloves, glasses. Oh and only put the acid on the epoxy blob, don't! leave it alone. Your knowledgeable, your common sense wont go out the window, so I can sleep sound knowing your safe & good 😊

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

@@Ratchet_effect Definitely sounds like fun 😊 Thanks for that Steve. I may well give it a go. Will have to get a hot plate first though. 👍

@Ratchet_effect 3 года назад

Its cool to watch the acid melt the epoxy like butter. If you remember the mini-ware hot plate, we spoke about on Caps stream, the one I told ESM about. That'll do it easy! peace of cake for it, as it's only a small thin board, you won't need much heat 100-120 around ball park. I can't stop yawning so going to catch up on sleep, Have fun! my brother Steve-to-Steve. 😊

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

@@Ratchet_effect thanks Steve! I did have a look for that hotplate the other day when you mentioned it. I think I found it on Amazon, but will have another look 👍

@infin1ty850 11 месяцев назад

Wait, it's "Stez-Stix-Fix"? I think I have been pronouncing it incorrectly this entire time, 😂

@jackal242 Месяц назад

THAT HAIR !!! :)

@northernninjarunner5506 Год назад

At BD Before Dave

@michellekillmer5273 2 года назад

Wait… your hair changes 🧐

@barth9580 2 года назад

Why would you even want to fix a Tiger game? They sucked when they were new.

@brandongray5823 2 года назад

Small m is Milli capital M mega

@marycunningham8281 11 месяцев назад

😅

@mirabilis 6 месяцев назад

Your hair is dancing.

@indusrealty4617 2 года назад

who got you that haircut? ;)

@StezStixFix 2 года назад

😬 barbers was shut that day 🤣

@heypockyway6652 3 года назад

Done something new with your hair mate?

@StezStixFix 3 года назад

😄 you could say that! 😊

@Littlefighter1911 2 года назад

Maybe some kind of short near the buttons? After all, pressing down reset at 4:22 made it play for a bit. So maybe the reset is floating currently? Could also be pause/unpause or other buttons not having a great time.