00:00-00:34 Intro Jam 00:35-02:45 Detailed Recap and Explanation 02:46-03:49 Revealing the Speaker 03:50-12:53 Speaker Demo/Comparison, Thoughts 12:54-13:29 Final Thoughts
@@MikelBluni so curious to when you mentioned that when the speakers are run at 8 ohms, they run together to produce a 100 watts? I figured a 25 watt speaker for a Marshall would be too much considering most of their amps are above 20 watts, I wasn’t sure how that would work
The Celestion Heritage series is generally of high quality and it's really only a matter of taste which one to use. I honestly liked both speakers and was actually surprised how well the 70th anniversary speaker sounded because I started the video kind of biased owning a Marshall cab loaded with G12H 55s.
Your videos are wonderful as always, I would love to see a video where you explain the setup of Jimi's guitar, what kind of strings, action, pickups etc..
Ultimate Hendrix. An Illustrated Encyclopedia of live concerts and sessions, p. 101 Kramer states that Jimi used a Fender Bassman top (and a m-160) on Voodoo Child (the blues jam).
.............Great Video........Jimi's 55 speaker sounded cleaner than i thought he sounded with his live concert amps......it shows just how much the recording gear microphones colored and distorted Jimi's actual guitar tone...........the 30 speakers you have mimic Jimi's guitar tone being recorded live with the microphones at the time......the 55 is his actual live guitar tone..... amazing how much cleaner it sounds.....less muddy
Setting the Record Straight, p. 167, Kramer says that on Rainy Day Dream away/ Still raining, still dreaming hendrix was using a "small, blond, thirty-watt Fender showman amplifier."
Hi, Mikel! I watched the other video, and the playing was great, as always! But yeah, something sounded a little off in the tone, and you were right: It was the speaker. The 55 stays cleaner and clearer and fuller. Hendrix paid attention to the bass end of his sound, as we can tell from his choice in fuzz pedals, modified wah frequency range, and bassy Celestion speakers.
That's very interesting, I always just assumed they were 25 watt greenbacks. I always found the Berkeley shows tone to be very unique, not sure if it's true but I thought I read somewhere that in his cabs for those shows he may have used G12 silver alnico T1088 Celestions, who knows right? I think during that gig he may have been using TV cabs for his bottoms. Anyway, for those shows his tone seemed quite treble-y, even the uni-vibe had a different sound (almost more chorus-y than phaser like). Thanks for sharing, I always enjoy good Jimi content!
Hendrix switched to the G12h-30 because they could handle higher volume better, further the entire bass spectrum was not as muddy as with lower wattage speakers. I think the he already used them at Berkeley 👍
You do a very good job, and it sounds very good what you achieve ... but I need to make a little fun - you state 55 KHz in the intro, that is quite a lot above the human hearing, it might even be AM Radio 🙂. It is 55 Hz, and that is the resonance frequency in free air of the speaker unit. Guitar speakers were 75 Hz, and will have less low end and maybe a different behavior in a given cabinet. New speakers, even Heritage or whatever they want to call them, do not sound even close to the ´real thing´. Greenbacks (that sometimes have cream backs or black backs) is a science in themselves. They have different cones with different sounds. The holy ones are Pulsonic witch factory burned down in the late ´60s, and the secret cone recipe got lost (... VooDoo) . Then there were some German Kurt Müller cones, and later even some that Celestion probably made themselves. Jimi must have used Pulsonic cones. So far I know Kurt Müller still exists, and are still producing speaker cones, but I have not seen anybody taking the job to contact them, about their heritage. Some speakers were even made with alu dust caps, but they are quite seldom. There are actually 3 different types of magnets: S, M and H. S are quite seldom but sounds good too. So ... a G12X or a Greenback is not just G12X or a Greenback 🙂
Thanks for your great input 🙏👍 Luckily, I have a healthy amount of good self humor…55KHZ…don’t know where that came from 😅 Actually, I never went and will never go down every rabbit hole there is with musical equipment. I listen with my heart and trust my ears. Out of the almost 150 gigs I’ve played with my Hendrix Tribute over the last three years none of the audience ever complained about me using a G12h-30 Anniversary 😊🙏 However, I get your point with the Pre Rola 55s. Nothing comes close and the infamous Jimi tone is right there in them. I have now bought a well broken in almost 15 year old pair of G12h 55s. What can I say - they also sound fantastic. I’ll hang in there in a good way. Thanks for your support. Sharing your knowledge gives me more options and alternatives for new Jimi related content 🍀🔈🎸🔥☮️
Deff I think he used them it takes the ice pick off the bridge a bit also I think possibly his amps were split cathode just from research. Woodstock is a good example.Awesome videos, very informative for us Hendrix fanatics.
@@MikelBluni Its certainly a possibility I also look at that really long coily cable and the univibe being a tone suck and the wah. I used your settings on my plexi very impressed thanks for that just trying to decide of a fuzz no one can seem to figure out the woodstock fuzz its said to be germanium but who knows some guy from west coast organ stated he modded it and his wah so much info but no definitve answers. And you are welcome awesome content!
Hi Mikel. In this excellent sharing I noticed that you're using a 15 ohm G12 H as opposed to a 16 ohm. Is there any particular reason why? Especially if the 15 ohm G12 H is paired with another 15 ohm G12 H in a 2x12 Cab and connected in parallel. This would of course present a 7.5 ohm load to the amplifier. A 7.5 ohm load connected to the 8 ohm output of the amp would attenuate the overall sound, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong!! I'm in the market for a pair of G12 H's that'll get me as close as possible to that tone that we know and love so much...Thank's Bro. Peace!
From my understanding, if you lower the load impedance (i.e., the impedance of your speaker) at the same amp with constant output impedance/voltage, you'll end up with a louder tone (apart from changes in the frequency response and without taking speaker sensitivity into consideration). You can't lower the impedance of the speaker too much as it will increase the current flowing through the power tubes of your guitar tube amp. So at some point, the amp's circuit or at least the power tubes will fail. The new Celestion G12H30 55 Hz is also rated at 15 Ohms as far as I've seen but is commonly sold as 16 Ohms speaker.
I bought one from a pawnshop that exploded, and I had to throw that one away. My next one was a gift from a friend, and I haven’t changed it yet. Sounds cool though.
Exactly, the re issues don't cut it and aren't exactly voiced the same due to the fact that after 73 the factory that made the pulsonic cone for Celestion burned down resulting in the use of the Kurt Muller cone which lost the creamy smoothness and no other cone has properly emulated the correct tone . The difference in sound between the re issue is almost as different as the two compared in the video and the my 1970 75h is nearly indistinguishable from my quad of 1971 55h to my ear . Nothing quite sounds like a pre 73 original pulsonic coned greenback . Have a great day !
Hi Mikel. Thanks for sharing your talent and passion with the world. You probably covered this in one of your videos, but exactly what Marshall plexi amp are you using in your "Cranked Marshall Plexi + Strat Jimi Hendrix Tones" video?? It also looks like you may be using an attenuator. If so. Which one is that? Thanks...
@@MikelBluni sv20h and a Fryette PowerStation for low volume playing. I'm a bedroom rocker! Im still new to marshall so ive got some more experimenting to do. It sounds good with my fuzz pedals
@@MikelBluni I believe I spoke with you on the gear page a month ago or so ! It was yourself who recommended the SV20H over the HDRX20. Im happy with my set up, thanks for the advice!
By the way, Mikel you should try 25W G12M Greenback with G12H30 Anniversary it's nice sounding 2x12 mix. I think it gives woodstock type tone if we speak about Jimi type tones, or that's what i hear when i tried it myself with my cabinet. I read that, Jimi use Greenback cab at woodstock but is it true? It sounds like that.
In the late 60s I’m pretty sure he used the G12-30 for all of his gigs ✌️ It also had practical reasons as he just blew the 20s and 25s too soon 😉 BUT if your setup works for you and gives you the tone, then it’s absolutely great and legitimate ✌️☮️✌️
@@MikelBluni Yeah always of course going with own sound first. I just said that if you someday get second 2x12 cabinet and you said before you use anniversary still too then it would mix well with greenback. Do you use anniversary now with that G12H Heritage as 2x12? I like both Hendrix and Clapton and sailing between those tones with my Marshall 2061x clone. I really like that amp cause i can crank it louder and it sounds like jtm/jmp mix. I made couple videos with G12M/G12H Heritage as 2x12. Happy new year🙂
Absolutely. It transports the frequencies “cleaner” if one can say it that way. The Anniversary has a pretty individual touch that can’t be dialed out. But it’s still a great speaker once it’s broken in 🔈🎸
@@waynegram8907 That’s difficult to say, as there is no clear source of information. I assume he blew speakers on the first tours so Axis Bold As Love could be the point from where on he started using the G12h 55.
@@MikelBluni The G12M-20s, What does the M stand for? what does the H stand for? the 20's stands for the speaker goes down to 20hz while the 55's stand the speaker goes down to 55hz?
@@waynegram8907 It’s the size/weight of the magnet. M = medium/middle; H = Heavy. Fun fact: back in the days many people believed the H stands for Hendrix 😉
I read that, Jimi maybe change 55hz to 75hz at some point but don't know if it's true? Do you use 1x12 or 4x12 G12H30 55hz? Have you test WGS Reaper speaker that should be G12H based?
I’ve done very detailed research and I’m sure he didn’t use 75hz. The 55hz is so close and reminiscent of his live tone that I don’t have any doubt. Regarding speakers I’m a traditionalist - Celestion does the job for me 👍
@@MikelBluni I got G12H Heritage 55hz on my hands too and yeah, it's nice sounding speaker. It's very close to UK made Greenback but not as loose sounding. I really like Anniversary about that, it sounds bigger, but overall Heritage is smoother and sweeter. Anniversary and Heritage could be maybe nice mix together, or G12M/G12H.
Tone is not only in the equipment. It also matters how you feel Jimi’s music and actually you can bring it along on every setup. Factually though a Fender DR is not precisely what he played so your sound could differ in the basis 👍✌️☮️🔥🎸
Jimi used a lot of stuff throughout his career, but the G12h 55 was a pretty recognizable piece of equipment. According to Celestion, there were even people in the 60s thinking the H stood for Hendrix 😀 Says a lot due to my understanding. Take care my friend ✌️
@@nicko6710 Thanks for the clarification. If you watched my last video that I am referring to in this video you’ll see that I was concentrating on live tones only ✌️However very kind of you sharing the studio details 🙏👍
@nicko6710 yeah. I see all those live show photos with him using a Fender Bassman. He has 4 of the on top of each other. His live shows he always used a Fender Bassman. 😂
Still not the same speaker, the re issue does not sound like the original because it doesn't have the pulsonic cone that gives it the Hendrix tone or the Page tone for that matter . Pre 73 greenbacks are the real deal the re issues are near proximity. reaching up but not quite touching it , Johan Segborn has demonstrated this fairly clearly. Great video though, have a great day !
Thanks for your positive feedback 👍 May I assume that you have only watched the first seconds of my video? Pls go to 03:50 - actually, I’ve specifically borrowed a cab with 1971 G12h 55s for the comparison with my G12h-30 Anniversary, which is a reissue 😉 Hang in there for a couple minutes, there’s a big difference in tone. Please excuse if I have misunderstood your reply ✌️☮️ Johan‘s videos are awesome 👏
@@MikelBluni thanks Mike, I watched it all actually, the confusion and conflation on my part it would seem is the small speaker icon that depicts a new (re-issue) appearing greenback, and i apologize for my assumption and my lack of attention to detail in your oration though I think that an explanation of the cone history could have better defined for the audience an important distinction that is a key detail of this particular sound, perhaps another video outlining the history of the pulsonic cone and post pulsonic eras that followed might be a great video to inform your audience if that is something that may interest your audience. Please pardon my mistake and have a great day, thanks Mike !
@@arfboucher3855 Thanks man 🙏 You are right. I have just used a random pic for the editing. Sorry for that. Next time I’ll be more precise. Due to the info these were T1281 with Thomas Ditton cones. Serial‘s second digit is D which relates to 1971 ✌️
@@MikelBluni thanks Mike also be aware that Marshall had it's own model designation number, the T1281 i believe is considered a special design specification for Marshall and Orange for example have a different model number for their G12H . These speakers are a rabbit hole of their own ! Lol
