The topdecked Jace on a 16-card library was insane. You have a spidey sense for danger which I wholly lack. I'd have Timmy'd myself down to 5 cards and felt like a dummy.
@@kevinkerwin4118 Are you saying the audio was edited to make him look like a genius for narrowly avoiding a top-decked Jace? Because the gameplay alone shows him looking like a genius for narrowly avoiding a top-decked Jace. Or are you instead saying that the entirety of the game was a clever VFX simulation? Because that's almost as hilarious as the original claim. Get outta here.
@@dinklebob1 Sheesh who's pitching and who's catching lmao. You obviously don't create content or pay enough attention to be so confident in your assertion.
@@stefanoriva1738 the plants make mana of any color, so you just include it as a one-of finisher for once you've made a giant board of plants from Insidious Roots
Match 2. Probably should have also played haywire mite on board in case they top decked a lockdown as well. Leaving 16 in library was pretty baller though for Jace. gg
This deck is a ton of fun and is generally pretty effective so far in my experience (currently lower plat, we'll see how it fares in diamond). I've been searching for a better Roots solution since MKM and this is it! Finally roots is fun again! FWIW I've swapped in 2x Urborg Reposession in place of 2x Cache Grab (because the former helps you get back Roots or Squirrel whereas the latter helps you get to them faster, so I thought nice to have a mix of both). And I added 2x Gumdrop Poisoner because I had them laying around and one black mana to make a food token seems economical. And then 1x Mudflat Village instead of 1x Underground Mortuary to get a squirrel or bat back if needed - gives just a touch more flexibility.
I twisted this into a janky squirrel deck for Alchemy Featuring Osteo/Insidious, that new squirrel that spawns a chitterspitter, and camilla its alot of fun!
I noticed that the deck struggles to win if it doesn’t hav Roots or has had it remove by a card like [Temporary Lockdown]. So I brainstormed some spicy one-ofs that could help with grindier matches. [Ygra, Eater of All]: a minimum 3-turn clock that can one shot opponents and a Ward which forces the opponent to commit to the board. Also helps with not dying to chip damage from flying creatures. [Corpses of the Lost]: a scary enchantment that could bait out instant-speed enchantment removal like [Get Lost] in response to the descend trigger. Also 3 more haste damage to close out games. Souls is a lot cheaper to play but obviously isn’t a creature which means less Roots shenanigans. Ygra is a great curve topper but it may be too slow for mono red and it doesn’t look that great on a post [Sunfall] board.
You might have already considered this, but [Pillage the Bog] is a more consistent cantrip to look for Roots-instead of [Cache Grab]-while having a lower ceiling potential.
I was crushed by different version of this deck: Aftermath Analyst and Iridescent Vinelasher. Put lands into graveyard and then put it on battlefield with Analyst, Vinelasher with offspring killed me. OTK in round 5 or 6.
Notification squad. Not the title I thought I’d see today. 😂😂😂 why not also run the one mana green instant mill card from MoM. I have that one in my roots deck and I rate it higher then cache grab even though it mills less because if you mill over roots you can get it back and I don’t believe that’s the case with cache grab. Obviously the upside of cache is that you mill four instead of two but still. EDIT: Actually cache reads the same as the mom instant but still why not run both?
Those effects get worse the more you have, since you increase the odds of hitting several instants. The deck also needs a critical mass of creatures to keep enabling the Roots once we start comboing.
It is possible with osteomancer roots and tyvar on the battlefield and enough cards in graveyard for forage to go through your whole deck give your plants haste and get a otk but not with this decklist.
@@LegenVD but if you are able to go through your whole deck in one turn whenever you get those three pieces on the board (very consistently in my experience) you only have to run one card to give trample and haste which in my decklist is cactus sureshot
It's a lot easier to accidentally skip though a phase or trigger with the spacebar, so I only advise using it if you're at risk of timing out otherwise. Given that we have to use the mouse for Surveil here the confirm button is close enough.
Really wish there was a way to make chalk outline work in a deck like this, but it's just not powerful enough unless you make detectives stronger somehow
Use the landfall lizard and the creature that returns all lands from graveyard to the battlefield so you can kill the opponent in the same turn you combo off.
I like that at least Aftermath Analyst fills the graveyard, but by the time we combo off we’ll have exiled the majority of our lands to Forage, so there won’t be enough left to win. Vinelasher also doesn’t really contribute to setting up the combo.
I just thought about something wouldn't "Agatha's soul cauldron" be a nice include in the deck with the voldaren thrillseeker and you wouldn't need to splash in red since you just need to exile it with the cauldron. And then you should have plenty of damage if you have the mana to sacrifice the tokens
It's indeed a card that has been used in this archetype before. The issue remains when we draw Thrillseeker, we would still need a way of discarding it. Outside of the Squirrel there aren't too many activated abilities in this deck. But there are certainly ways to build around Cauldron and Thrillseeker a bit more to make it work, I've featured it in the previous Standard when we still had Bloodtithe Harvester.
As a Roots fan, I'm curious if you played around with Forsaken Miner and Festering Gulch? I also like to keep a single copy of Pit of Offerings to trigger my Roots and/or an additional land crime trigger for the Miner.
yeah the lack of consistent Crimes in this deck makes Miner pretty bad; you'd rather just have all the other one-drops which better setup roots (and can actually block) like rubblebelt, etc
@@LegenVD Without the ability to play the combo on the opponent's turn, it's susceptible to board wipes, and with Osteomancer putting a finality counter on the nontoken creatures it's one wipe and game over. I've found the Miner to be a less fragile and more consistent trigger for roots. Especially with the land crimes currently being almost uncounterable in standard.
@@LegenVD I was wondering. I haven’t finished watching the whole video yet. Thank you. I find it useful to run the thrillseeker combo. It’s rough to go through all the trouble and triggers just for my opponent to field wipe the next turn before I can attack.
just had a thought.... does the attack trigger on the rottenmouth viper count as an activated ability? if so, working that and the cauldron into a roots deck could be sick.
I bust it out at locals from time to time, planning on playing it this Sun for Store Champs! Yes I am bringing *all* my spindowns and have a ton of plant tokens ready lol
This seems like a surprisingly budget friendly deck. Would this be a good idea to craft as a new player? Pretty sure I already have an Osteomancer or two
No. Look how exhausting and long all the games were where he actually won. I guarantee you'll get bored of it before you play it for very long, and then you're out a bunch of WCs on a meme deck.
@@LegenVDnew to mtga, browsed untapped and it's like red red red red + rabbits. Other than all red what are a few decks you would recommend as a new player?
@@Aaatxe vermin is not killing heartfire with a pump spell anyway...at least thief blocks slickshot. I dont play ranked so i must be missing something....not a big deal
Urborg Repossession, Blanchwood Prowler and Pillage the Bog are better options than Cache Grab and Gnawing Vermin as far as milling and finding Roots. Also a couple Keen-Eyed Curators can be an alternate win con that also triggers roots and is graveyard hate. Not a fan of this version and I don't say that often when it comes to your brews.
