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This Station CLOSES This Year 

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We ventured to Cottingley station. A station that is due to close this year and be replaced by a new station, known as White Rose!
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@sterlinghartley2165
@sterlinghartley2165 3 месяца назад
My ex use to use that station often (she lived less than 5 mins away), the bus journey there is over twice as long. No one in that community will take the train when your walk to the station is longer than the ride to Leeds. I don't understand why they can't keep it with as local stop with expresses using White Rose, it would just make more sense.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 3 месяца назад
yup.
@Eric_Hunt194
@Eric_Hunt194 3 месяца назад
Expresses won't call at any of them, either station would never be more than locals. Stopping expresses at White Rose would be like stopping Weymouth fasts at Berrylands, or all West Coast expresses at Queens Park.
@josephbrennan-davison
@josephbrennan-davison 3 месяца назад
My local station, but a bit of an odd one really. Its so close to Leeds city centre that the majority of locals choose to rely on the bus network to get into town, since its cheaper. Its only really used as a park and ride for commuters who live in the surrounding conurbation between South Leeds, Kirklees and South Bradford. The only time I did catch a train to Cottingley was when its closure was announced, had to tick it off before it closes.
@stephenreardon2698
@stephenreardon2698 3 месяца назад
I did wonder about this, as the pedestrian connection between Cottingley & White Rose is clearly so poor, but if the Bus into Leeds City Centre is already the better option anyway, then improving the Park & Ride with a more accessible alternative for the region as a whole has to be step up.
@andrewnelson4057
@andrewnelson4057 2 месяца назад
@@stephenreardon2698 There will be pedestrian access from Elland Road. So the long slog to the ring-road and back will no longer be needed....
@LynxEE20
@LynxEE20 3 месяца назад
It still seems weird for me to see TPE serving these stations. I was a student at Huddersfield Uni from 2006-2010. The local Hudd-Man Vic & Hudd-Leeds services were all Northern with all variants of 14x and 15x units used. One journey I remember well was a Leeds-Hudd stopper, full and standing on a single 153. At every station (including Cottingley) my friend and I had to shuffle into the back cab while the guard worked the doors. Now you get 3 & 6 car 185s.
@chriscotterill1989
@chriscotterill1989 3 месяца назад
Leeds - Huddersfield stoppers transferring back to Northern in December 2024
@andrewnelson4057
@andrewnelson4057 2 месяца назад
@@chriscotterill1989 When they're not on strike, or replaced by busses due to engineering works....
@Dwagginz
@Dwagginz 3 месяца назад
Used this station a number of times. It serves a purpose (one thing I don't think you captured around 3:40 when talking about the residential aspect is on the 'other' side of the station to the new-build estate is a council estate with two tower blocks), but it's not fit for that purpose now because it's inaccessible. I don't think there is a lot of room for them to upgrade it to make it accessible, and given that the business park White Rose is adjacent to is footing some/all of the bill for the new station, it makes sense for it to move. Irony is it becomes even less accessible for residents, though!
@nigelkthomas9501
@nigelkthomas9501 3 месяца назад
Cottingley is fine! I use it regularly and I’ve got no issues with it whatsoever. It’s very convenient for me. The new White Rose station will be a few minutes longer walk away which isn’t too bad, but many people that live in Cottingley won’t be walking to the new station. They’ll just use the bus.
@paultidd9332
@paultidd9332 3 месяца назад
I think maybe you should have gone at it from the White Rose Shopping Centre side? The retail park side does have a sixth form college within one of the units which perhaps support the relocation of the station. Cottingley’s location is a bit strange, on one side it does feel a little remote from those two tower block and yet on the other side there is a whole relatively new housing estate, which makes the relocation a little strange. I doubt people are really wanting to travel to the White Rose Shopping Centre when there is Trinity and the Victoria Quarter/John Lewis in Leeds city centre.
@RossParker1877
@RossParker1877 3 месяца назад
Closing a station is okay if there's an alternative. All hail White Rose
@minidarkvolten9167
@minidarkvolten9167 3 месяца назад
There building a station up the road to replace cottingley
@andrewnelson4057
@andrewnelson4057 3 месяца назад
​@@minidarkvolten9167Sadly they're not at the moment....
@Eric_Hunt194
@Eric_Hunt194 3 месяца назад
Not so great if you bought one of those new houses at Cottingley at an inflated cost due it having a station right on the doorstep, and then had the rug pulled by Leeds City Council. The money they're spending on White Rose was compensation for the axed trolleybus scheme.
@Farleigh1050
@Farleigh1050 2 месяца назад
also when there are 2 passangers/year like teesside airport
@jasonlittlewood3874
@jasonlittlewood3874 3 месяца назад
Cottingley is the nearest station to where I live, but still not "Walking Distance". It's a good job you didn't exit the station from the other side, as it is not the best part of Leeds, but you could have got on the hourly 47 bus to the White Rose Centre.
@RobinPalmerTV
@RobinPalmerTV 3 месяца назад
Fair play to your fellow passengers for getting into the spirit (or Prosecco) of things behind you.
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 3 месяца назад
Somehow didn't notice that while editing!
@martinevans7090
@martinevans7090 3 месяца назад
6:36 - Battling your way through brambles and branches - Geowizard would be proud!
@ReecesTrains
@ReecesTrains 3 месяца назад
Great video, Nick! I think that was the same day when I was visiting multiple stations around the Leeds area, and I went up this way on 158755 passing through!
@egpx
@egpx 3 месяца назад
Industrial estates, thick undergrowth and construction site. My word Nick you know how to treat a girl 😉
@richardbutler4488
@richardbutler4488 3 месяца назад
At least it’s a clean leading up the bushes kind of thing 😅
@user-ex4go1hp2h
@user-ex4go1hp2h 3 месяца назад
A few years ago Northern used to run the local stoppers between Leeds and Huddersfield and Huddersfield and Manchester Piccadilly, but then TPE took them on, hence why the station probably is managed by Northern but TPE mainly calls there, not been transferred over?
@chriscotterill1989
@chriscotterill1989 3 месяца назад
Leeds - Huddersfield stoppers transferring back to Northern in December 2024
@andrewnelson4057
@andrewnelson4057 2 месяца назад
Huddersfield and Manchester Vic.
@gwrydd
@gwrydd 3 месяца назад
Why not keep both? I live in a town near Warrington and we have a station serving housing estates and one serving the town
@n0rthernbuses
@n0rthernbuses 3 месяца назад
Too close together for trains to stop at both (not my words, but the words of the WYCA)
@gwrydd
@gwrydd 3 месяца назад
@@n0rthernbusesinteresting. Northern claim that too with Warrington west and sankey yet can stop at both twice a day
@LuperSoop69
@LuperSoop69 3 месяца назад
WR & CLY are a not that close
@n0rthernbuses
@n0rthernbuses 3 месяца назад
@@LuperSoop69 800 metres is apparently too close according to WYCA
@LuperSoop69
@LuperSoop69 3 месяца назад
@@n0rthernbuses it looks more than 800 metres tho, the line does do a zig zag ish bend round between the two
@PamelaBane
@PamelaBane 3 месяца назад
Thanks for a trek into the unknown, a station closing that is so close to the village though is a shame.
@Itsgaryjerry
@Itsgaryjerry 3 месяца назад
Nick your videos are a real joy to watch. Such a positive and relaxed energy - keep it up! It’s been wonderful to watch the channel grow!!
@Steggs
@Steggs 3 месяца назад
Made the trip to Cottingley myself in February... it was pouring with rain... think I was the only one there getting on it and no one got off 😅
@Class777
@Class777 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video as usual! I must visit Cotringley before it closes, but it’s good they’re opening a new station not too far up the road!
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 3 месяца назад
Great video Nick. Did go to Cottingley a few months ago. Only seen White Rose from passing on the train
@lipkinasl
@lipkinasl 3 месяца назад
I have to say if I were a resident by a station and was told it was closing and the replacement was a 20 minute walk away I'd be very, very angry. Why can't they have both stations?
@Sozbear
@Sozbear 3 месяца назад
166 passengers a day (presumably 83 returns) on average and the fact that White Rose and the new Morley station are better aligned for the TRU/electrification project.
@thatlocomotiveguy
@thatlocomotiveguy 3 месяца назад
My nearest station is 45 mins away and I’m not complaining
@bulletholeteddy9223
@bulletholeteddy9223 2 месяца назад
You wouldn't have to walk, cottingley has a bus to white rose
@andrewnelson4057
@andrewnelson4057 2 месяца назад
@@Sozbear Morley station is even further from Morley than previously.
@ReubenAshwell
@ReubenAshwell 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video Nick, looking at the facilities Cottingley station has to offer, I can see why it's being replaced especially if the new White Rose station is serving the retail park of the same name.
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 3 месяца назад
I think that the new Cottingley railway station will look much better than the old Cottingley station. But yes sad to see the old station go once the new station is built and fully operational.
@epislog178
@epislog178 3 месяца назад
Oh no! I live nowhere near cottingley but it’s always sad to see a station close.
@davejoey
@davejoey 3 месяца назад
Great video as usual Nick. It's always a shame when a station closed. I don't know if this has been suggested already, but you could do a Point To Point between Meols and Meols Cop
@andreawoelke
@andreawoelke 3 месяца назад
I hope they create a direct, lit and paved footpath wirh a safe crossing of Elland Road for the people who currently use Cottingley station to get to the new one or they'll lose a lot of passengers. 20 min is quite a walk to add to a commute.
@rikufryderyk
@rikufryderyk 3 месяца назад
Can’t wait for White Rose’s Opening- it’s going to be amazing! 🤩🌹
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent 3 месяца назад
Brilliant video:-)
@ollyshighlightreel6530
@ollyshighlightreel6530 3 месяца назад
Ah good ol' Cottingley station... Always passed through the station towards and away from Leeds on the TP line but never acutally set foot on the station. It's a shame that it is closing but having the station closer to The White Rose Shopping Centre would help White Rose a lot though. White Rose really needs a speedier connection to Leeds and neighbouring areas and not constantly relying on the bus network.
@m3tty.
@m3tty. 3 месяца назад
This was a good video Nick!
@IttyBittyGamer
@IttyBittyGamer 3 месяца назад
We have seen another station fall R.I.P Cottingley
@DanBen07
@DanBen07 3 месяца назад
Another station i think is located far away from the center is Sandown on the Isle of Wight.
@ThomasWhiteford
@ThomasWhiteford 3 месяца назад
Showing a notification of Closure at a station sometimes actually keeps it open if enough people campaign as on the Edinburgh to Glasgow via Shotts line a Station called Breich was up for closure that was saved before it's planned Closure
@andrewdales8136
@andrewdales8136 3 месяца назад
The Saltburn service only stopped there when the upgrade work was going on . Mainly Hull services now.
@jackcrawford3921
@jackcrawford3921 2 месяца назад
It's also the closest station to Elland Road football ground, although how many Leeds fans use it when travelling to home matchdays is beyond me
@watsonwatt7984
@watsonwatt7984 3 месяца назад
This was a great video and will you be visiting White Rose when it eventually opens & loved Natts T Shirt
@RedfishUK1964
@RedfishUK1964 3 месяца назад
I think what you missed is the White Rose (Business) Park is a fairly large Office park - I worked there a few years back (it was called soemthing else then) but there is a major Capita site, HMRC, HSBC and Barclays at the other side of the Road I would estimate over 5,000 people work there and (apart from a 20 min walk to Cottingley) they are dependent on driving or some businesses have shuttle buses to Leeds Station So add these to shoppers for the next door shopping centre - which has added a cinema etc and it makes perfect sense to move the station (too close to have both open)
@kingboy76
@kingboy76 3 месяца назад
Hi. Rather than Cottingley closing because it wasn't well located, it was more that the owners of the office park decided to fund a new station nearer to their front door, for their own benefit, and it was then decided that Cottingley and White Rose were too close together for both to be viable. The estate you walked through, full of new houses, was built around 15-20 years after the station and no doubt easy access to the railway would have drawn many people to the new-build houses. Just a few years on and they're losing their local station because of corporate selfishness. Additionally, the new station being less than 10 minutes from the city centre by rail, and as the enormous free car parking of the shopping centre is just a few yards away, that car park will likely become a de-facto park and ride into Leeds, putting more pressure on the already horrendously busy and inadequate roundabout at the entrance to the White Rose Centre. Of course, there were grand plans to improve the junction and surrounding roads when the new station was first mooted, but things have gone very quiet. I'm expecting either a complete white elephant station, never used, or apocalyptic 'park-and-ride' traffic chaos. Oh and if it IS busy, you can bank on Northern and TPE not to react with sufficiently-sized trains... Enjoyed the video by the way, always like seeing my local area "on film"
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 месяца назад
It takes about 20mins (or less) to walk between a lot of the London Tube stations , which seems like a possible reason for retaining Cottingly ( seems like levelling down rather than up) . Actually Idea for Vid no one else has done on London Underground - what is the walking time between closed (but extant) tube stations (Zone 1 , Zone 2 Zone 3 (eg Bull and Bush, Lords, Down Street, York Road) to the next open stations (in each direction). I would like Pentonville Road exit from Thameslink I miss too as the walk back from SPancras is a pain.
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 3 месяца назад
Imagine a station being renamed from cherry tree to red rose in Lancashire
@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu
@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu 3 месяца назад
Poor cottingley 😔
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 месяца назад
Stations on Curves also have sightline problems
@jameshennighan8193
@jameshennighan8193 3 месяца назад
NO NEED TO CLOSE COTTINGLEY White Rose is designed purely for the Shopping Centre.... Cottingley serves a local area and housing..... This is a daft attempt to speed trains up on this line....but this will be negated by stopping at White Rose which is on the two track railway anyway. White Rose Station could have been built far more cheaply and been a more practical proposition if they had just put in one platform (worked multi-directionally), as a loop to the existing two tracks. James Hennighan Yorkshire, England
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 месяца назад
If this was Easter Weekend I hope you went up to Middleton Railway for steam etc fun
@maedero05
@maedero05 3 месяца назад
0:04 What I see your effort to get there residents all ready switched or there's replacement bus 47 and 55 C Bus to Leeds City center ?
@danieldabloxgamer9205
@danieldabloxgamer9205 3 месяца назад
When I went to the white rose centre it was go to Leeds Station and get the First LeedsCity 3/3A or the Arriva 200/201/202/203
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 3 месяца назад
I'll tell you exactly why that station closed. Modern suburbia is the land of the car. If they built that place properly, with mixed used business and residential, so you didn't need a car, that station would see a lot more passenger use.
@IttyBittyGamer
@IttyBittyGamer 3 месяца назад
Atleast its not a historic station
@CharliChimp
@CharliChimp 3 месяца назад
Hey Nick! Have you seen on the news, that Northern are playing Classical music at some stations, to combat antisocial behaviour? I think this is a great idea! What are your thoughts? Perhaps you could do a video on visiting one or two? 😊 Love the video as always! 😊
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 месяца назад
Sounds nice. Not sure if that will work though. They'll probably vandalise the speaker.
@mik99D
@mik99D 3 месяца назад
" I bought a station, not half an hour ago, from this very boutique." "Oh yes, White Rose station. Beautiful, platform, Major. What's wrong with it?" "I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad, it's dead." "Nah, nah. It's just sleeping." Etc, etc, Dead parrot sketch again. Just like HS2.
@melondasher
@melondasher 3 месяца назад
3:00 What exactly is a "Promise to Pay", I've never heard that term before
@joshtrains-qr8ie
@joshtrains-qr8ie 3 месяца назад
nick are you going to ignore the fact just before you got off ladies were pouring alcahol!
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 3 месяца назад
Crazy stuff. No station should be being closed, it costs little to nothing to keep a small station like Cottingley open, and look how many residential buildings it's near? thats crazy. and its topped off by the fact the white rose station is both really far from the actually shopping park AS WELL as being so delayed. this was really poor planning tbh.
@janpizewski-or3be
@janpizewski-or3be 3 месяца назад
I live in Cottingley :)
@jamiesakalys8488
@jamiesakalys8488 3 месяца назад
I think try could keep cottingley and new station white rose both stations will have advantages and disadvantages especially the elderly who can't walk 20-30mins
@ZEDDTEE
@ZEDDTEE 3 месяца назад
You need to go gillingham (kent) to gillingham (dorset) 👍🏼
@wtspman
@wtspman 3 месяца назад
As the vegetation along the trail became increasingly overgrown, I was expecting the story to switch to a hunt for an old Roman road.
@Jason80111
@Jason80111 3 месяца назад
TPE call there on the Leeds Huddersfield stopping service and the Hull to Piccadilly service. The Saltburn MIA service do not call there. From what i have heard on the grapevine is that both stations will stay open as local residents have complained but thats not confirmed.
@stephenclark9917
@stephenclark9917 3 месяца назад
There is no space in the timetable for BOTH stations.
@Jason80111
@Jason80111 3 месяца назад
@@stephenclark9917 like I say, just what I heard.
@TrainPlayz566
@TrainPlayz566 3 месяца назад
NOOOOOOOOO
@seprishere
@seprishere 3 месяца назад
I hear the replacement is delayed?
@brianbrown1673
@brianbrown1673 3 месяца назад
Nick have you been to Sunderland new trian station yet.
@Battismore-Blue
@Battismore-Blue 3 месяца назад
I wonder if the great and the good of RU-vid ,train railway people , will converge on it when it closes like they do when a new one opens .
@SN06BNF
@SN06BNF 3 месяца назад
If I Heard That My Local Station Grove Park Was Closing, I Would Be So Pissed Off I Wouldn't Even Be Angry, I'd Be Fuming.
@20Jameshall_baby
@20Jameshall_baby 3 месяца назад
Couldn’t they just keep Cottingley and it is helping White Rose
@Saint_Dan132
@Saint_Dan132 3 месяца назад
good morning
@Thornaby37
@Thornaby37 3 месяца назад
I hope people don't have to walk down that overgrown path to get to the new White Rose station
@hhgttg69
@hhgttg69 3 месяца назад
footbridge to Pilning maybe?
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks 3 месяца назад
Shhh that's too sensible! I mean, it could have had Angel Road's but didn't
@eattherich9215
@eattherich9215 3 месяца назад
A 20 minute walk to a station. No thanks. An unexpected increase in costs. When has a rail project ever come in on time and on budget?
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 3 месяца назад
yippie!
@Aviation_Nation-do4uq
@Aviation_Nation-do4uq 3 месяца назад
my local train station i dont want it to go to be honest
@hamishhortic9739
@hamishhortic9739 3 месяца назад
Great video Nick and Nat despite the sad circumstances of a station closing
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 месяца назад
Is White Rose actually having a completition date set now ?
@MRMERCEDESMATT
@MRMERCEDESMATT 3 месяца назад
It’s only been open for 36 years.
@stmisbehavin662
@stmisbehavin662 3 месяца назад
"Well, that's a good sign" Really, Nick?
@ashleyjiscool
@ashleyjiscool 3 месяца назад
In another 36 years, they will replace White Rose with Cottingley lol, it might.
@rockerjim8045
@rockerjim8045 21 день назад
Only in Britain could they build a new station in a jungle
@NameReveal-yy7qb
@NameReveal-yy7qb 3 месяца назад
Point to point Reston to Preston
@chriswade7470
@chriswade7470 3 месяца назад
All that will happen is the people who live near Cottingley Station and use it will find alternative public transport options.
@Drago1995
@Drago1995 3 месяца назад
almost like Gent-Sint-pieters, under renovations since 2008 first expected to end in 2010 than pushed to 2014-15 and now end 2024 early 2025, unforeseen increase in costs -_-
@paulcawley6330
@paulcawley6330 3 месяца назад
Bordesley (Birmingham) is also doomed (I believe).
@NickBadley
@NickBadley 3 месяца назад
I don't believe it's had a formal notice of closure issued, but it's definitely heavily in talks!
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 3 месяца назад
Famous for the photos of the Cottingley Faries which Arthur Conan Doyle,a keen Spiritualist,was fooled by.
@stephenclark9917
@stephenclark9917 3 месяца назад
A different Cottingley, one near Bradford.
@Boxersteavee
@Boxersteavee 3 месяца назад
1:30 a 3-car 158??
@Dwagginz
@Dwagginz 3 месяца назад
Yeah, on that line they run 3 car 158s pretty frequently.
@AlexanderBrassington
@AlexanderBrassington 3 месяца назад
Yeah Northern has a few of them. I don't think many were built
@michellebell5092
@michellebell5092 3 месяца назад
Couldn’t they or might they call it White Rose for Cottingley ?
@eattherich9215
@eattherich9215 3 месяца назад
I'd be miffed if I got off at a station to face a 20 minute walk to the actual location.
@liamavia
@liamavia 3 месяца назад
Can you do catford to catford bridge pointless journey
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore 3 месяца назад
Geoff Marshall already did that basically
@hi-viz
@hi-viz 3 месяца назад
​@@trainman86trainstramsandmoreHe should do that but for next year's April Fools where he walks the distance between the two
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore 3 месяца назад
yeah haha@@hi-viz
@liamavia
@liamavia 3 месяца назад
@@trainman86trainstramsandmore nick doesn’t do pointless journeys in the fastest way so he can still do it
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore 3 месяца назад
@@liamavia did Geoff do it in the fastest way?
@SN06BNF
@SN06BNF 3 месяца назад
I Have A Point To Point Suggestion: Mottingham To Nottingham
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks 3 месяца назад
He's already done that one
@nowapproachingyt
@nowapproachingyt 3 месяца назад
Not holding my breath with the new station progress to be frankly honest. Apparently it’s lost practically all funding and progress has just stalled. Not actually sure if this is true but it wouldn’t be a massive shock if it was true.
@nigelrichards3522
@nigelrichards3522 3 месяца назад
So it will be nice and convenient for retail, but rather more awkward for the housing development……
@AymanTravelTransport
@AymanTravelTransport 3 месяца назад
Still trying to figure out if you two are dating or siblings!
@garethsmith2250
@garethsmith2250 3 месяца назад
Sponsored by DaZN this video?
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@thebean6731 3 месяца назад
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