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The dude's been running this car ragged for 200k miles, charging mostly at superchargers (which is bad for the battery) and he's still at 90% battery capacity. Only thing he's replaced is some seals, tires, and a couple of struts on the worst-built Tesla model. Dang, that's incredible. These cars are built to last.
Yes I got pretty lucky with the car. Only normal repairs understandable for the mileage. I tell everyone, do not worry about battery and drivetrain, the rest of the car will not hold so long
And it’s funny I have 87% capacity left on my model 3 performance after 2.5years/52k miles. I rarely supercharge, 90% charging from home, charge rate initially to 90% up until about 40k miles, now I’m at 80%. What the heck am I doing wrong?
@@Oliver2020. - Higher mileage (than 200,000 miles), with even less problems? Sure, if you're lucky maybe but that's not the norm for the average ICE vehicle. In addition to two or three times the number of brake jobs, you'll likely need to have replaced the alternator, mechanical water pump, serpentine belt, O2 sensors, PCV valve, thermostat, coil pack, timing belt, timing chain, timing gear and chain guides, various system electrical relays (like fuel pumps). Accelerated ageing of gaskets, rubber and plastic products due to the much higher engine temperatures and under hood heat and vibration (like pan and manifold gaskets, front and rear oil seals, vacuum and coolant hoses). Even the average automatic transmission is unlikely to reach 200,000 without some major issues.
My 2018 Model S 100D has almost 160,000 miles and still going strong. Interior is holding up great. No major issues. Never did charge up to 330miles form day-one. Now able to max charge at 295miles. I did the upgrade on the MUC/screen. Same breaks, change tires about every 40,000 to 45,000 miles. Plan on keeping long term. Go Tesla !! .
As I mentioned in the video, you need to get lucky to get such a low degradation. Normally it is about 16% for this type of misuse ;-) what isn't actually that bad too
While I won't buy a Tesla, when I eventually buy an EV (next year), I will not use fast chargers very often, if at all. I'm naturally patient, and I know how much faster chargers can hurt the battery.
@@snakeeyes9246 you will do 98 percent of charging at home anyways to make it at all worth it. For road trips you will need to use fats charging - unless you want to sit there a minimum of 6 hours at the highest available 220 volt charging.
Still got a ways to catch up to my Model S, it's up to 432k mi and counting! The previous owner bought the car new in 2015, and used it for Uber full time for the following 5 years, at an average of over 80k mi per year. In the nearly 2 years I've had it, it's had very few issues, and is my daily commuter, plus I do a little bit of rideshare on the side, and the occasional long road trip (I'll actually be taking a ~2000mi round trip starting in less than a week). If you're ever visiting the San Diego area and want to take a peek, let me know! You may or may not remember, but you visited the shop where I work after your Model 3 cannonball run. We've actually moved to a new location and changed up the shop quite a bit. These days our number one source of business is in repairing EVs (mostly Tesla powered).
@@Dadadu16 it's had the front drive unit swapped out once (at around 375k mi). Rear drive unit is still original. The Small Drive Units that are used in the dual motor, non-performance models (guess I should have mentioned my car is a 70D) are generally pretty bulletproof, unlike the Large Drive Units used in in the back of RWD and Performance versions... We actually specialize in rebuilding those at the shop where I work.
Not 100% surprised on the low degradation -- time is as much of a killer as high mileage. But it's glad to know mileage alone + lots of supercharging isn't a killer..
Yeah most folks I talk to about battery deg get their information from the deg NiCad batteries had in the old Prius. Li based batteries with any sort of thermal management will last longer than folks hold onto a typical ICE car today.
DC fast charging is hurting the battery a bit. Fortunately mine pack got lucky in chemistry lottery. But I know the odds are in favour that the battery will sustain some damage. I am simply doing way too much miles and charging
@@anydaynow01 Most folks I talk to take a worst case scenario they heard about somewhere and apply that "knowledge" to all EVs. Otherwise known as haters.
Thank you very much :-) actually English was my first foreign language, unfortunately in couple last years I have very few opportunities to speak English. And since I live and work for last 7 years mostly in Germany, Austria, Switzerland where is primarily German spoken, you naturally pick up the sounds.
It's nice to see the car holding up so well. Battery degradation is low, and interior materials have held up nicely too. And he tows once a week with it! There were a lot of questions about reliability and longevity, and this car answered those questions. It's a testimony to how well-made the Tesla is.
Good thing to see a happy owner and a reliable car! My ‘16 facelift MS 70 hold up well with 129k miles. Degradation is so low (less than 10%)that I would not call it a degradation!
2008 BMW X5 here is 220 miles. This truck as of now gets 11 miles to the gallon, has had around 10k in maintenance and as of now is burning oil internally which according to the dealership costs $7700 to fix. Only reason why I have not gotten rid of it is because the it is paid for and CyberTruck was delayed. Ordered my CyberTruck in November 2019. Just though I would share that perspective.
I wanted to get silver TM3 as well but unfortunately it was never officially available in Europe. Nowadays I just hope that Giga Berlin will start to produce Liquid Silver TMY soon
@@lachlanB323 since I live in Europe I have already seen and got a chance to drive few of quicksilver vehicles. It is the best color option for Model Y in my opinion. For the X the standard white or the new Ultra Red are sweet as well. But I imagine that quicksilver on Model X would be just WOW
This might get me crucified but it sounds to me like Tesla has the drivetrain nailed and they need to partner with someone like Toyota for all the other bits. As stellar as 200k miles is, having to replace door seals yearly just sounds incredibly annoying. My 17 year old Prius is on original everything. In fairness, Toyota backed out of their relationship with Tesla. So that's maybe not the best partnership example. But hopefully the point came across.
And let me tell that even I agree, that Teslas are not very good cars in comparison to particular brands. But Tesla is as a package is still one of the best electric cars on market. In some cases not the best electric car for specific uses and regions, but in general for 80% of drivers is the easiest choice
I think he's replacing yearly, because he does is himself, as to adjust rear door, with his schedule - waste of time, as I understood no Tesla support in their country as yet
@@vladzis the issue here is that you shouldn't be replacing seals really ever lol. They should be good for the life of the car. Water ingress in the trunk? None of this would fly among almost any other big brand.
@@belavet I've got W220 MB S class 10 years ago, it had water ingress inside of the trunk as well, not sure what's the reason here in Tesla, but on mine it was failed tail light seal, and MB wasn't selling it as a separate part, I needed to replace whole tail light to sort it out. I also have 3000GT (1993), and it's not watertight as well, where door glass meet rubber (Tesla's also having frameless windows).
@@vladzis I'm gonna be real here, I'd call that poor design/materials as well. The BMW doesn't get a pass from me 😆 It's why I say they should partner with a solid car company that has vehicles in the road that are multiple decades old. Tesla's goal (apparently) isn't even to be a luxury car maker.
Dang! I'm still shy of 200k, I'm currently at 186k miles on my 2013 Tesla Model S P85+, can still charge up to 233 miles at full charge when I do so, so about 12% battery degradation. As a Tesla Tech I'm gonna try to keep this thing going for a very very long time.
Happy to hear that you still enjoy your car. Please be aware, that the Performance vehicles from those days suffer from coolant leakage into the rear drive unit. Start looking for a third party shop where they can refurbish the drive unit,since Tesla asks stupidly money for refurbished drive units.
@@KristianKratochvil oh I am very aware. Everytime a older Model S performance comes in for a drive unit isolation fault it's guaranteed that's the issue. I work for Tesla and work on the vehicles my man.
@@dylangonzalez8812 I very nearly bought a brand new Model 3 RWD, the base. But then I found a 2014 Model S p85 with 31k miles on it for 29k with completely FREE supercharging. It still goes about 260 on a full charge. Very happy with the purchase. The new Model 3s are smaller, 272 miles of range so only 12 miles more, and have to pay for supercharging.
@@dylangonzalez8812 tha you are lucky to sit on the source ... there are couple of independent shops in Europe, that can completely overhaul the drive unit and eliminate this for good for a fraction of cost by Tesla refurbisher unit
I have nearly 185,000 miles on my 2017 silver model X 90D and it has very similar qualities. I drive in the Chicago area and have not noticed the corrosion. Had to get a new AC and steering linkage that failed about 1 year ago. I find the rubber trim around the FWDs to be very bad quality and Tesla does not offer a reasonably priced kit but insists the owner pay $1K or more to replace the upper FWD window (which has new replacement trim attached). Other than that it's holding up very well with normal battery degradation. I still love driving it and use FSD on my daily commutes.
Hi ... congratulations on your silver whale ;-) The issues you describe are typical for early models before small facelift. Except for the steering rack, that has been solved late 2018. I got lucky, just the joint has to be replaced but it is like 70 EUR plus labour.
Never going to happen. Tesla makes changes and upgrades that change performance, efficiency, safety, etc. dailey. There is no easy comparison over time.
Late to this video but very interesting none the less. I just today ordered a used 2018 Model X 6 seater with 48K miles on the ODO for $38K from Tesla. I have had a Cybertruck on order since 2019 and leased a Model Y LR as a place holder vehicle. My interest in Cybertruck has diminished significantly since the start of production with the $20K price increase (from the 2019 estimates) and then the $20K Founders Edition $ bump put it at $90K for the DM which made me rethink the entire proposition. Last week I test drove a silver (also my fav Tesla color) 2017 Model X with 103,213 miles on the ODO at a nearby Toyota dealership and loved the car. It had a 7 seat setup (I prefer the 6) so after some haggling I refused their final $31K offer. The Model X I bought today isn't silver (2017 was the last year) but it my 2nd favorite color and has a Tesla 1yr, 10K mile full warranty and a couple more years for the battery and drivetrain. It also has better 20" sonic carbon wheels and 6 seats with a hell of a lot less miles. Both have Advanced Autopilot and barring any major issues it will be my daily driver and road tripping car for the foreseeable future. I'm aware of the control arms issue and will deal with that under warranty with Tesla as needed and eventually replace them with the after market kit that better address the issue.
We need to start asking more about tire replacements over these high mileage vehicles as I’m seeing a higher turnover from the boards. Understandable, but it’s nice to accumulate the data.
The suspension setting from factory is really crap, tires could not hold more than 20-30k km. After some adjustments by somebody who understands Tesla suspension I can do over 60k kms (40k miles)
@@rosmarin2438 in Europe you mustn't mount any other dimensions of tire that there are on Certificate of Conformity from manufacturer. It is not problem of rubber quality, but the suspension geometry sucks and is ripping and shredding the tires
@@matteocomelli9587 exactly and unfortunately in Tesla Service they will it adjust it in accordance with the manual. You need to set the geometry for low / very low. Tesla sets it in Normal what than actually wears the half shaft down
Randomly encountered this video. Thanks for putting it together. I'm still driving my Tesla Signature Model X #208 (last to be delivered in 2015). Rock On!
Just a comment on the pod for a chilled out break, they have expanded as I’ve seen one in Los Angeles near sunset Blvd, tens of chargers with the coded door for the pod
Thanks for the nice comment! I completely agree with you, I miss the silver option as well. I am very curious what kind of silver will be produced in Berlin, there are rumors could be identical to that Model 3 preproduction vehicle during the presentation and on posters
Great video, love this type of content. I'm planning to keep my Model 3 SR+ for as long as possible and wonder if age will show anything any different as I'm only doing less than 10k miles a year. Bunch of little annoying issues with things like rear lights full of water (had my 6th replacement light fitted by a ranger today)
Hi ... I have experience with 3s as well. The degradation at the beginning is much higher than with S/X because of other chemistry. But after initial drop the line flattens and is very gentle. I could observe 0,5-1% per year caused by age
Even though Tesla is very interesting. I'd rather just buy a Toyota right now and when 200,000 miles comes... I won't even think about it and just look forward to the next 200,000 miles which it is almost guaranteed to do. These things should be extremely more reliable for me to buy one and also, extremely cheaper to fix when the break. The last 500,000 miles that I've driven in my current cars, I really only spent about $700 in repairs. I don't consider brake pads, tires and oil changes to be repair. Extremely reliable cars.
I love you and your channel. I don't understand why people do reviews after a certain number of miles or in my case Kms. every place is different each tesla is different. Thank you so much for your videos i have learned so much.
Especially these days it is something that makes the car even more valuable despite the slow charging. My second car is Model Y, but when there is no time pressure I take the old fat lady Model X.
My Model X P100D Ludrious always have door issues when it is in hot sun. Front doors would only open an inch if they sense hot temperatures; and the Falcon Wing doors also refuse to open if the sensors on the doors sense approximately over 80F and I live in SF Bay Area where my local weather is about 80F to 100F during July to October months. It is a constant hassle, especially embarrassing when bystanders watch my family struggle to get either in or out of the car. Also rattle is annoying. Tesla uses lot of plastic pieces for its interior and exterior trims. The plastic pieces harden over time as they are exposed to sun and harsh weather, they creak and rattle when the Model X goes over uneven road surfaces. It is a bit annoying especially for an otherwise quiet electric car. My rear motor failed at 42,000 miles. It was repaired under warranty, else the cost originally quoted via the Tesla app was $6,700 USD. Good luck. I am trading in my Model X for the Lucid Gravity SUV once it will become available. Oh and there is no power frunk opening for a high-end car and if your hands are full, you have to put your stuff down on the floor, then get your app or the physical keys to have either the frunk lid or trunk lid open, a bit annoying when your hands are full. Also, after driving long distance for a trip, the frunk lid is dirty with insects, you have to wear gloves to open or close the frunk lid else your hands will be very dirty. And in hot weather, try touch the frunk lid, it burns your hands too. For such an expensive car, it lacks lot of basic features you find in other similarly prices vehicles. Poor Tesla quality as well, as I have six panels which are mis-aligned from day one. Tesla says cannot adjust them anymore without compromising other sides of the panels and create other issues. OMG. I took delivery due to I really wanted to show off to friends at that time 5 years ago. I do regret ordering the Tesla somehow due to its poor quality and lack of features that a pricey vehicle supposed to have. Oh, the Tesla Service Center is a sub-par experience too. Be ready to get you car back with lots of dirty interior and exterior. Everytime, we can the car back after service it is very very dirty. The loaner cars from Tesla Service center are dirty too. Every time, we can the car back after service it is very very dirty. The loaner cars from Tesla Service center are dirty too. Almost forget, front upper suspension failed twice ( a known defect of Model X performance models for 2020 years and before ). Rear brake light has water condensation and Tesla says it is "within specs" so Tesla refuses to fix. Give me a break.
what is the statistics for tesla car that just suddenly stop on the road for a reason except for battery soc and accident? Cause common anxiety for old ice cars are likes overheating, ignition coil problems, spark plug, coolant leaks, losing compression, damaged piston, etc?
Gotta agree with this owner- my 2016 MX P100 w 140k miles is holding up incredibly well. Warranty covered front strut issues and I upgraded the MCU to the new version- otherwise the car is impressive and it’s my daily driver- plus 4x long trips every year. Would love to know where he got the seals for the wing doors? The exterior rubber used disintegrated early on but I have no water leaks at all- interested what he did there?
@@marinaely2165 #Kassandra has to endure a lot with me. In my work I have to visit installations which are off the tarmac roads. It is not much in comparison to the daily driving, but each day it is a 2-3 kilometers.
The fact that this car does not have an electric tow hitch is beyond me… ours ended up almost rusting in place, cause I was too lazy to remove it 😅 now we drive without it almost all the time.
@@KristianKratochvil ours was stuck pretty badly, but a hard hit on top of the “cone” with a normal hammer, while holding underneath, was enough to shake it loose.
Hi, this is my car. We used wrong term, this is not rust of the chassis. It is corrosion defect of the paint job. Yes, even so this should have never happened, but it is not progressive and I simply do not care
I have never seen X built before 2020 without the paint peeling off the spoiler. I noticed it after the warranty and Tesla said the paint warranty covers only body panels
All cars benefit with the use of RUST CHECK by Rustolium. This is a light oil that's used to coat the undercarriage but is excellent for internal panels and fasteners. Repels water, prevents rust..Cheap and you can apply it yourself NOT ON BRAKE ROTORS OR PADS though!
My 2016 Model X has 266K miles. Still going strong, but it is starting to show it's age. Finally going to replace it with a Model Y for the next year or so. Ultimate goal is the Cybertruck.
Everyone keep selling the battery for being able to last 150,000 miles. But the real challenge is not abt the mileage, but time. How well will the battery chemistry last 15 years or even 20 years after manufacture?? If you need to pay 30k$ for a new battery every 8-10 years, not that interesting...
Pekne Kristian, pekny rozhovor, Teba by uz mala Tesla odmenit za to aku jej robis reklamu. A dakujem ze som mohol tiez vdaka Tebe ochutnat pocit z jazdy na Tesle.
Any modern car, especially Toyota, easily runs over 200k+ miles just by doing nothing but the oil change, break pad, aux battery, and the usual stuffs. 200k is a pretty standard because we have nearly perfected the arts of manufacturing a gas-engine vehicle. If one would simply make a car to last over 300k miles, they certainly can. With that said, Tesla motor can last more a million miles +, provide that you don’t do anything stupid and do some necessary maintenance. There is a guy in 🇳🇿 or Australia 🇦🇺 who has driven the Tesla for over a million miles and of course, he had to replace the battery at some point but the car still runs fine
I'am curious is the Tesla quiet or just the same as any normal car for road noise coming from the tire and wind noise from the windows as you are using a smartphone mic so not sure if it picking up more than normal sound level.
A little amazed that a five year old, high dollar car, has rust and water intrusion to an extent the paint is bubbling and it's shrugged off as normal. Replacing door seals annually, isn't indicative of a quality product.
Hi ... the rust is spot aluminum corrosion that doesn't spread. It is sign of bad paint job. The water intrusion into trunk is because an idiot smashed my rear camera with a key. The changing of steals is my choice, but you are right it is bad design. And why I just don't mind? Because it is just a car, a car that I abuse as my tool for work.
@@KristianKratochvil thanks for the feedback. My comment wasn't necessarily directed towards your ambivalence specifically; you definitely use your car like a car. It's mostly towards US Tesla owners just shrugging off issues. When I look at Model X door handles that never seem to line up, it drives me crazy. :). Love the content.
This dude is lucky. I knew a 2018 Model X with a failed battery at 75K miles. Luckily it's still within battery warranty. So Tesla replaced the battery with a remanufactured one. It's a mystery how unlucky you have to be to have a bad battery. I guess it's also expensive to replace an engine in an ICE car. But I have never seen or heard of a catastrophic engine failure.
Is there a registry with high mileage teslas and other stats. If it's not recommended to fully charge a tesla then I think it's false advertisement to give the full range at 100% battery.
To the Model X owners here: Do you have problems with the 6 seat configuration when having things in the trunk? I'm thinking about getting a used 2020 model X but am concerned about greeting my groceries or other luggage when braking.
The whole idea of having a large SUV is too sir up high. Is the control arms the weakest link in driving in standard/high setting? I know high setting is limited to 56km/h. Has that changed in newer models?
@@KristianKratochvil I don’t have any social media accounts, but my wife does. She is from Levice so I am sure she will definitely send you some support. Good luck
Hi ... as long as the repairs and replacements by Tesla had been done, the mileage was never more than 25.000 miles ... than I went to a third party shop and my next service was after about 100,000 miles ... it was about 1800 EUR
Plenty of ppl having major interior quality issues seeing 1 high mileage Tesla isn't going to change my mind Tesla quality is one of the worst out of all auto manufacturers
