for a fact he did join in the lemans 1965 and totaled due to the gear box overheated to say honestly i still gonna respect Ken for what he has marked since 1966
@@gpdude22 The main thing I took from it was how anti-Semitic the Ford motor company was. They really hated Jews, which probably also means that they hated black and trans people too.
Watched an interview with Chris Amon about this race. His view was that the car that he and Bruce McLaren were driving was way ahead of the Miles car when the instruction came through for the dead heat, they ,(Amon/McLaren) slowed down, Miles caught up and kept racing , but whatever happened they crossed the line first.
Those seconds to run to the cars hurt Miles. History was pretty much set down by many as one version, the Miles won version, and it was stolen from him by McLaren.
...except the part where they gloss over the whole point of the movie, how the car's design couldn't have been competitive without Ken Miles' input, how no ford would have beaten the last remaining Ferrari without Ken Miles forcing the Ferrari's driver to push the Ferrari car past it's limit and break down by out driving the Ferrari, and how Ken Miles actually had to slow down to let the other fords catch up. Basically, Ken Miles rightfully won that race for ford three different ways and ford wouldn't even give him credit so I gotta disagree about the first class doco point. I'd say that was a low class move by ford. I mean it's a ford documentary, so as fun as it was to watch, it's obviously biased. It's just good those points were finally made in a meaningful way.... and the movie turned out great - probably the best car/racing flick of all time.
The ending was so emotional. Really feeling so sorry about Miles. He was the man who beat Ferrari and in the last moment old Enzo was also respect him but Henry Ford 2 who were busy with his wife and Bruce Mclaren.
Not historically accurate though. Enzo wasn't even there. Liberties were taken to make a more interesting movie. I'm cool with that but not everyone was at odds with each other to the degree that is depicted in the movie.
@@TheAstrojoe62 agreed, yes, it was a bit like Apollo 13. Liberties were taken to improve the drama which didn't happen in real life - for example the scene where the 3 astronauts started going at each other's throats as to who caused the major oxy tank explosion. According to Jim Lovell it never happened. Same deal in the Ford/Ferrari movie... the Ferrari's were completely out of the hunt by 3am, all gone, kaput. There was no great dice with Bandini for the lead. And indeed it was Bruce McLaren who was leading handsomely going into Hour 21 who voluntarily slowed to make the dead heat happen. Miles caught him and refused to slow down, creating an artificial lead for himself. Once you know that, you can understand why Miles slowed down in the final hour and then deliberately hit the picks with 100m to the finish and let Bruce go across the line clearly in first place by 2 car lengths. They were all Shelby-American teammates, and Miles and McLaren drove in the same GT40 Mark II in the 1965 race. And that was an inaccuracy in the film too. Miles was never punted for 1965, he raced in 65 and 66. He was on extremely good terms with Bruce McLaren.
@@ivanjulian2532 right. I think what we forget in cinema is that it is a visual story telling medium. Visuals often have to speak where dialog would take too long so we get things like them having a fist fight or Enzo being at the track physically. Plus there is a story being told and day to day life rarely has a nice neat beginning, middle and an end. My hope is they catch the essence of the men and the event not the literal historic event itself. I understand that going in and it usually drives me to find the real story. Both I find fascinating and enjoy.
This is a fabulous film. Loaded with atmosphere, every aspect through the entire 24 hour period. Particularly the other world supporting the entire circus running in parallel with the race.
I realise all these years later how spoiled I was just watching these speed machines on black and white TV as a child: GT40 - Fords greatest ever sportscar, gorgeous Ferrari P3 (No. 27 Ginther/Rodriguez car @ 6:17-6:24), Jim Halls, Chapparal 2D, row after row of Alpine A210s, as well as the early Porsche prototypes (906/6) that were to dominate the world of Sportscars at the end of the 60s, after the dust had settled between Ford and Ferraris mighty tussle. Yes, this was the golden age of this hallowed category of motorsport, without a doubt.
Cool! But you were lucky, I had to wait 90 days or so and read about it in R&T. I must admit, those printed articles were magical. I love video but a well written description does wonders for the imagination.
Ah, glory days. I remember this one. I was perk as a ruttin' buck that Ford had drilled Ferrari once more. But boy, was that Ferrari P4 beautiful in it's time.
@@ColinLenznerD1337 Sure understand that, however 1966 was a race win. 2016 was only a class win. Excellent result, but not quite the same as overall victory. Would like to see a Ford victory again in the future, but that could only happen if Le Mans resorts to GT classes only.
@@Aotearoa_Kiwi Well if the name of the game was "Ford can build a sports car that can win LeMans", to me it's a win. Even Ferrari didn't have a LMP car running for them.
SteamKing2160-spot on about Ken Miles and amen. More than anyone, Miles engineered and then drove the GT40 to victory. He followed orders, got screwed, dutifully went back to work and then got killed 60 days later while advancing the same cause. He gets so little credit or recognition. He was a man amongst men........
@@gokaisilver3801 Mate watch the entire last lap. Its on RU-vid. Miles lets McLaren lead cause he knew he was running second.. Ford robbed Miles of a chance to race McLaren to the end. It was Fords idea to slow McLaren and have the tied finish. Giving Miles the triple crown and McLaren the win. Everybody happy. But they messed up the rule... Dont think Miles was in front. He wasn't... Chris Amon wrote in Motorsport magazine (June 2007) that without FORD interference thay would have EASILY won...
A true inflection point in Western Society and in the motor car, in many ways it’s all been downhill since 1970. You look at all the beautiful healthy people having fun and enjoying the simple pleasures in life and mixed in are these insane sports endurance cars doing modern day speeds. Amazing. Loved watching this.
Automobile racing history including Ford GT40 are really cool. I remembered reading about Henry Ford II fight Enzo Ferrari fire with fire at the Le Mans with mid engine race car: the Ford GT40.
Ken Miles heartbreaking loss to McClaren is just tragic. McClaren should have taken the trophy and walked straight up to Mules and handed it to him if he had had one ounce of decency or sense of fair play. Miles humility in reducing his speed and waiting for the others to catch up just for a photo shoot and the team was one of the greatest selfless actions in racing history.
why was the no2 ford car painted black and silver ? that was the racing colours of new zealand which carol shelby ordered done out of respect for the 2 drivers of no2 ford bruce mclaren NZ chris amon NZ
Ford wanted all three cars to finish together so it would make a great photo (it did) and sell a bunch of cars. The Le Mans judges didn’t appreciate Ford’s publicity stunt so they ruled McLaren had won because he started further back in the grid and thus covered the greater distance during the race. It was a bs move by the french FIA. They didn’t like the rude Americans winning their precious race. It wasn’t Ford’s fault.
I flew to Le Mans via private jet from Shoreham , Sussex with 7-8 other business associates. Great dat out. The roar of the cars 🚗 flying past is immense. This was in around 2004/5.
@@MrNo-dc2wplegendary racing driver the mr monaco, f1 world champion twice,the triple crown of motorsports.And the father of f1 world champions 1996 damon hill.
Dyler Classic & Sports Cars for Sale I’ve been a die hard just NASCAR fan, but I find Le Mans and especially the FvF penile measuring contest the most amazing story in all of Motorsport. How glad I am to have given those “fruity European (no offense)” Motorsports another chance.
Just watched the new film ... Christian Bale is brilliant as Ken Miles and Jason Bourne is brilliant as Matt Damon. Thanks for posting such a great clip.
This is such an awesome balance of the raw racing and the charades behind the scenes, i.e. the focus on the fans. It shows how massive of a race this was, in its prime. Someone get me behind the wheel of one of those damn beauties.
According to Carrol Shelby it was his idea to have all the Ford's cross the line at the same time, not Henry Ford 2. He said there was no rule for a tie breaker so the LeMans officials came up with the furthest distance traveled. So it was Shelby that slowed Miles down according to his own words and he said he's still sorry. This is an interview when he was much older. He wanted to beat Enzo Ferrari, who he disliked intensely it seems, worse than he'd ever been beaten (slightly paraphrasing). This'll of course was an interview when he was old. It's an interview over an hour long and it's on RU-vid. It's worth noting that McLaren crossed the finish line first as you'll see near the end of this video. This is a discrepancy that I can't overlook. If McLaren finished 1st then the LeMans officials never had to make any decision.
Falan Filanoğlu it wasn’t ford that done that ... Shelby screwed Ken !!! It was All Shelbys idea even though he knew Ken would of had the triple crown.. Watch Shelbys last interview he apologized to the world 20 years later . Sack of shite you are Shelby !!
@@waynedharsan5288 Hey atleast do your homework right! It was indeed Lee Beebe the vice-president of Ford at time who suggested that Miles should slow down and so Shelby was directed to ask miles and so he regretted asking him that...
@@waynedharsan5288 dude he say apologize for a reason are you feel guilty for your best friend when you cannot help him or her do you blame yourself like shelby ?
Let’s see I was 9, in my 60’s now. I still remember this race. The MK11’s just blew me away even though I never saw one . Saw a Gulf GT40 in the 70’s was able to get a good look at it.A beautiful car.
Suppose you'd be cursed to relive a certain period of your choosing infinitely. What period would you want to live in? I'd go for 1966-1970, great cars, hippies, drugs, sexual revolution, sex and rock'n roll, Woodstock etc.
Great footage .. it is hard to believe that WWII was just 20 years prior to that race and those magnificent cars. I got to meet some of those still living mechanics.
Ford v Ferrari was a good movie but I remember shooting a few interviews with the late great Chris Amon on the race and despite being a typically humble New Zealander you could tell he was a bit pissed at the whole "Ken Miles was robbed" story that the film repeats. The truth is Amon and McLaren were well ahead of everyone at Le Mans in 1966 and only a few hours from winning the race when Ford told everyone in Ford cars to take it easy for the final part of the race. Running a distant third Miles ignored the instruction and soon took the lead. When they finally got the message for all cars to finish together, something Ferrari had been doing in previous races, Miles finally slowed down so they could do it. McLaren, for whatever reason, gave the car a burst just as they crossed and was clearly over the line first, so the whole no 2 car traveled and extra 8 meters, part of the story was irrelevant.
Absolutely correct. Chris often told that story, and even Denny Hulme confirmed that the #2 McLaren/Amon was the true winner. And Ken Miles knew that he was running second. Why else would he position his car in second place during the last lap (see 24.40 onwards), and allow McLaren to lead to the finish line.
Miles was backing off from what I see, down that final shot from the helicopter. The fact is he did not slow down & passed the guys that did. It also looks like he slows just before the line Bruce’s speed was constant. Bruce, Chris & Dennis Hulme were 3 formidable drivers.thats why they were driving Shelby’s cars. Denny was the 1967 F1 World Champion for goodness sake not some second rate driver, hired on the cheap. Denny & Bruce dominated the Can Am series until Bruce was killed. This is wrong there should be a statement put out on the film that there were team orders put out around 11 am telling the cars to slow down which was either missed or ignored by Ken Miles. Bruce McLaren had a family imagine being dragged through this.after all these years.
I have been going to races since 2nd grade, I am 58. It boggles my mind why people go to a race then don't watch it. The only time I am not watching once it starts is if I am in the pits or in the back with the mechanics. I have never been to an endurance race but have taped or watched every Leman since speed Tv started covering them and before that. It is one of my favorite movies also.
This 1966 Le Mans Race isn't even a race? This is War... A War between a Pasta Freaks against a American Yankees... Ferrari vs Ford, very beautiful Historic and Brutal race war.
ken miles was actually 1 lap ahead before the finish, but ford people made the race officials remove 1 lap from the car before the race ended, that's why he let the #2 car pass him because he knew #1 car was leading...
Thank you very much for this wonderful video. I remember as a young child watching it on Wide World of Sports. I think they had it in '66. I wonder if one of the drivers speaking was Sam Posey? It certainly sounded like him. Also wondered how the driver fared who was in the accident with the fire. Anyway, splendid stuff.
The finish was not a dead heat, and Miles was not robbed. As confirmed by driver Chris Amon (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fhiWRTDZ7-E.html), McLaren was leading when he slowed in response to the team order to slow down and hold position, whereas Miles ignored the team order, maintaining speed, as he had at Sebring (where he had similarly violated a team order), and was thus able to pass McLaren and take the lead. At the end, as you can see in the official finish photograph (i.imgur.com/2nq6fKT.png), Miles backed off and allowed McLaren to finish ahead of him. The arcane LeMans distance rule did not come into play. My guess is that Miles realized McLaren deserved the win and/or how much trouble he would be in for violating a team order a 2nd time.
I don't know about that. Coming from Carroll Shelby himself, Ken Miles was ahead 1 and a half laps. We don't know who is actually telling the truth. The movie eventually followed Carroll Shelby's story of the events that took place. As told: "Bob Negstad - Senior Project Engineer, Ford Motor Company: “At Le Mans, I was the guy that Jacque Passino sent over to Ken Miles to tell him to back off and let the other guys catch up. Ken got tears in his eyes and said: ‘No, this is my only opportunity to do this and I can’t do that and I won’t do that.’ During the next pit stop, Ken’s co-driver was told to slow down and let the others catch up and Denny did as he was told. It was during this time that Passino sent John Cowley down to the scorer’s and timer’s tower and told them that we had miscredited a lap on Ken’s car and to take a lap away from that car. When the car came in for its final stop, Ken got back into the car and refused to participate in the prescribed finish. That’s why he laid back when the three cars crossed the finish line. Ken was a lap ahead at the finish, that’s true, that’s absolutely, totally, true. He was a lap ahead and Passino and Cowley went down and took the lap away. They absolutely stole that race from Ken and it’s about time that the truth is told, Ken’s memory deserves that.” When I showed this quotation to Carroll Smith and asked for his opinion, he told me “Bob Negstad is one of the most truthful people that I have ever known.” Bob died shortly after this interview was conducted and many of us feel that it was a dying declaration to see justice finally done for his good friend, Ken Miles."
Ken Miles foi o vencedor supremo...pena que a elite é quem decide quem vence. Vimos isso acontecer na F1 com Barrichelo deixando varias vezes o Schumacher passar.
Not as impressive as Fords domination, but it's worth noting that 5 out of the 7 Porsches finished with only 1 retiring due to a mechanical failure during the last hour, which is crazy result for that time (in contrast 3 of the 13 GT40s finished).
